First hand Red Pill experience [experiment] on OKC. My head is spinning.

frys180 · 2014-12-16T16:13:34+00:00

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HV123 · 2014-12-16T10:02:29+00:00

All online stuff is going to be about looks. That's pretty much all it is. I'm not sure thatis news.

Also you have the selection bias of the people who are on there to consider. i.e tinder etc are used by people who are DTF, almost by definition.

kick6 · 2014-12-16T13:27:29+00:00

Unlike what PUA claims, game does not matter. It was ultimately just me, the same guy who has just been shamed to express my sexuality due to the beta impression i gave.

Bullshit. Until you start using your real profile, and sending out the same "have you ever had a brown guy" message you can't conclude that game doesn't matter. You're using TOTALLY DIFFERENT TACTICS, and chalking it up entirely to the picture.

Variables...there's too many in your experiment.

Speed9402 · 2014-12-16T07:24:48+00:00

You should post more image examples

Xbitz · 2014-12-16T09:02:15+00:00

Douchiness IS game.

Be anything but a "nice guy" doormat.

FLFTW16 · 2014-12-16T08:32:13+00:00

The girl who responded to your black guy profile, did you also message her with your regular profile?

pcadrian · 2014-12-16T12:23:30+00:00

Well, it looks like I have set a good goal for myself this winter - get SHREDDED.

HungryGeorge · 2014-12-16T12:34:47+00:00

Nothing is nothing until you have dated some of these women and can tell how things went. People write all kinds of crap on dating sites for all kinds of reasons. You're pulling their leg -- what makes you think they are not pulling yours.

Redpillc0re · 2014-12-16T10:42:11+00:00

'Dating site' is a euphemism for a sex site. You can waste your time mindlessly chatting up if that's what u like, or u can go directly for the sex and go to town.

oostking · 2014-12-16T13:01:57+00:00

The "douchy" persona isn't for everyone, if you do not have the looks that are associated with it, you're just gonna come off as creepy.

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...and this is the Zelda theme, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qJ-xEZhGms

Neo93 · 2014-12-16T13:24:45+00:00

RL PUA is not Online PUA. You can only generate attraction online through pictures. However, in RL PUA you can attract other people through body language, voice, clothes etc etc.

2014-12-16T16:55:12+00:00

I did the same a while ago. I made a fake OKC profile of a bad boy rocker type who was pretty handsome with his shirt off, I would just send degrading messages to girls on there and most of them would reply with interest. I tried doing the C&F messages from my personal account and the success ratio wasn't nearly as close. I'd also message girls who didn't reply to my actual account who DID reply to the fake one.

Looks > everything else. Look around you, it's pretty obvious.

Why get butt hurt about it though? All the more reason to hit the gym, stay hygienic and keep up with your fashion game. Women want a guy who's sexy not dull, get over it.

throwaway-sst · 2014-12-16T13:22:46+00:00

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mentalfloss2 · 2014-12-16T15:16:20+00:00

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garlicextract · 2014-12-16T09:56:20+00:00

Unlike what women claim, they love to see douchey pics of you with the shirt off.

Well yeah, if a girl's tinder pics had her boobs hanging out, guys would be all over it. Only difference is we don't claim to not like it.

SmilePeregrine · 2014-12-16T12:23:52+00:00

Of course a different photo online is going to change you results, that's one of the only things the girls can see! I don't think its news that people find attractive people attractive...

circlhat · 2014-12-16T13:59:50+00:00

Unlike what PUA claims, game does not matter. It was ultimately just me, the same guy who has just been shamed to express my sexuality due to the beta impression i gave.

What exactly do you think game is?

I had been brainwashed by PUA into thinking looks don't matter but I had no idea the extent of this bullshit.

I use to be a skinny guy with gyno and still got girls , I wouldn't take a shirtless pic, as long as I acted confidently and outcome independent it didn't hurt as bad as I thought.

I created another profile and simply put a ripped shirtless Black guys picture on there. My profile was extremely douchy and the About Me just says "not your average douchebag".

You keep using the word douchebag? is this something you want to me, it seems you could use a bit of PUA

All I have to say is hey? No games no gimmicks , kind of like what PUA teaches.

LousWallin · 2014-12-16T14:16:01+00:00

Women are always going to go for the best-looking man they can find on dating sites. Let's face it. They can sift through tens to hundreds of messages and literally pick anyone they want to bang that week. Compared to Elliot McThunderFromAboveHer, the average guys are only going to have little success, and can probably only bang fat and curvy chicks with a cocky approach.

Merica911 · 2014-12-16T16:04:07+00:00

This is a great post by you explaining a lot and I would like to add:

From you sending a "douchebag" message is saying something submissive (outcome depend).

When it comes to online dating, looks matter. Women want status quo guys. They can't see your bank account online. They can't see how popular you are online. They can't see how social and how you can read social que online. BUT they can see how good you look which mean other girls want you too. And believe it or not, a girl like more for the fact that many girls are into you rather than how good you look, (but when you look good, girls are into you). Simple as that.

On the flip, girls try so fucking hard to look good online because that's all we want for them to bring to the table. I've been on many online dates where the girl was clearly "fatter" in person. Yeah I'm shallow, but I'm not the one lying about my looks.

MagicGainbow · 2014-12-16T06:16:22+00:00

I hope this was helpful for some of you guys.

It honestly wasn't, it's been done before numerous times.

ddun610 · 2014-12-16T15:15:40+00:00

This is the shit that brings this sub down. The increasing amount of betas given a false sense of alpha is doing more harm than good. You pretended to be someone you're not online. Any pussy can pretend to be someone else online. You're getting validation without any effort. This would be closer to a contribution if you went out and actually got a girl's number in person. Or better yet, you meet up with one of these girls and still sealed the deal even though you're not the person in the picture. The "experiment" is basically spelled out in the sidebar.

slurmfactory · 2014-12-16T20:47:44+00:00

ITT: looking good isnt required, but it helps. The amount of attention I have gotten from ladies after working out has skyrocketed. I think a fundamental red pill theory is pretty much "girls are just as sexual and attracted to looks as guys."

Don't get upset that the girls you are attracted to because of their looks are attracted to men because of their looks.

I'll be in the gym doing squats after work and sweating my ass off, earning the sexual attraction of women (whereas before when I was weak and out of shape girls see that as weakness, laziness, and unattractive.) What about you all?

BedHeadd · 2014-12-16T18:21:56+00:00

Why would I want to be a fake cunt just to impress some shallow as fuck girls?

Purecorrupt · 2014-12-16T15:13:04+00:00

Some people are saying this is useless and bullshit. Well for someone who's been lurking here for ~month I think it helps me realize I should use a shirtless pic or multiple and dumb down my profile. I'm actually going to delete mine as I'm personally trying to cut for the first time and take new pictures on the new year.

Maybe if there was a sidebar reference for TRP online dos and don'ts? Unless there's another TRP online dating subreddit that could be useful if people don't want to see field report/experiments on it.

Chadbrochill2 · 2014-12-16T11:50:40+00:00

You are attracting girls to fuck on your one profile, you are attracting girls to life long relationships on the other. One is a lot easier to do than the other...

silentSmooth · 2014-12-16T16:04:32+00:00

Looks matter, money matters, status matters, attitude matter... Game? You need to be able to be social and talk to people and that's about it.

OP, you may have discovered the ultimate slut filter. Then again, how many nice girls are you going to find on POF?

Zanford · 2014-12-16T20:13:03+00:00

Thanks for sharing. I wonder if it helps that you seem to be using 'white-douchebag' language so your triggering their black guy curiosity without their thug alarm. Good looking black guy with some white cultural affectations.

kevkos · 2014-12-16T21:40:02+00:00

Weird, I've met lots of girls in person that claim they won't return any messages from guys with shirtless pics. Maybe it's just the ones I'm meeting, or maybe they are lying.

DaisyLayz · 2014-12-17T01:57:49+00:00

Congrats. You've figured out how to pick up the exact kind of woman this sub despises. Vapid, materialistic, confused and/or mentally unstable little girls. Now see how your snazzy trick works on quality women...

BlackHeart89 · 2014-12-16T11:31:34+00:00

Wow. I need to upgrade my douchiness on there. In my opinion, I look better than this dude you put as your pic. I'm not ripped, but I am muscular. I'm complimented on my frame by women that know me personally and who are trying to get to know me.

I get better results in person. But damn. This right here can change the app game for me! I get replies, but I guess I don't escalate to serious shit soon enough. Conversations always die out.

snupher · 2014-12-16T15:11:52+00:00

So, what is the control group in your experiment? Are you going after "hot women" ? Or women of substance? If you are only messaging women who put their phone as something they can't live without and only have pictures of them in the bathroom mirror or at a bar, im not surprised they are only replying to your fake profile. Going after girls is a lot different than going after women. It is like going to a feminist clan meeting and saying "people talked to me more if I agreed with their bullshit." I'm a fat guy and can tell you right now, I can pull a lot of replies on okcupid if I was still on there.

the_optiomal · 2014-12-16T16:42:03+00:00

I don't think you should've made public the girl's picture though

RU_Crazy · 2014-12-16T19:55:58+00:00

I have a theory that as the media continues to demonize any act of white male dominance women will turn more and more to the black male to fulfill this carnal urge.

confuseacatlmtd · 2014-12-16T19:02:41+00:00

Dude! Read our post and decided to try it on tinder. Put my shirtless pick as my main pick and changed my line to "I love bad bitches thats my fucking problem." Instant match from a 9.

AchillesOtherLeg · 2014-12-16T20:12:59+00:00

This guy should get an award.

Upvote.

Loodu · 2014-12-16T07:50:28+00:00

It's not all about the look read the sidebar. 40% of a dating website isn't a usable data set

hobodick · 2014-12-16T15:24:43+00:00

OP aside, WTF TRP

You are all WAY too emotionally invested in this crap.

Pick up your purse, and get your shit together for fucks sake.

mentalfloss2 · 2014-12-16T12:18:15+00:00

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paynehouse · 2014-12-16T14:51:44+00:00

I don't see how you can conclude from your evidence that women want good looks. The only thing you can really conclude is that women want power. You don't have to be ripped to be powerful. It's the easiest way to appear powerful, but many men are scrawny and powerful i.e. musicians.

ccccb · 2014-12-16T16:02:46+00:00

You should have blurred out her face.

Title	First hand Red Pill experience [experiment] on OKC. My head is spinning.
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Date	December 16, 2014 6:02 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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