Redpill and man as a "success object" really hitting home.

DonJunbar · 2014-03-09T00:03:18+00:00

This makes me wonder: Is there EVER a time when its advantageous to share ANY of your troubles with a woman?

Perhaps if you have a female sexual stalker who just won't leave you alone, it can help in terms of dread game. But beyond that...?

IllimitableMan · 2014-03-09T00:32:18+00:00

We can't cry in front of women.

We can't share with them our fears.

We can't share with them our disappointments or failures.

We can't express weakness in any form whatsoever.

We can't even show uncertainty or reluctance to take risk.

Even if we wanted to do these things, we cannot. It's why couples counselling does not work, communicating how you feel and why you feel it doesn't help, you simply need to take charge of shit.

Doing any of these things results in killing her attraction toward you until it eventually dies entirely and she leaves you.

Damn right we're success objects, they don't give much shit for our pain or suffering. It is even more evident now as feminism has made the average woman more narcissistically sociopathic via entitlement.

yata97 · 2014-03-09T05:46:57+00:00

I don't know... I lost my job a while back and took it very hard. I came home to a extremely supportive girlfriend who instantly jumped me and fucked my brains out. And this is not the only example.

This place has been an incredible resource for me and has undeniably made me a stronger man. But this has not been my experience. I'm new here and unfortunately still see everything through a semi optimistic lens.

So far literally everything that I lave learned clicks and everything I have applied has been on point.

So please change my opinion, I am having a hard time with this RP truth.

SillyAmerican · 2014-03-09T00:30:45+00:00

why cant girls just see us as humans and not just success objects!? lol

RcskaSedd · 2014-03-09T00:22:15+00:00

kinda reminds me where they did that study that women are attracted to men with pride or displaying pride, just imagine if you did get what you wanted (the fellowship), how much pride would you be expressing? your gf would probably be extremely attracted to you, and happy for you aswell.

mordanus · 2014-03-09T01:06:49+00:00

Women are sex objects and men are success objects. I like it.

watersign · 2014-03-09T00:33:04+00:00

Yup..women dont care about your problems.

-Tyler_Durden- · 2014-03-09T06:50:16+00:00

If a woman loses her job it's no big deal to her husband.

If a man loses his job a wife will leave him in a heartbeat.

Wedding vows are meaningless to a woman.

Phaint · 2014-03-09T02:59:03+00:00

I feel a draw to successful men as well. Its no different.

invisiblephrend · 2014-03-09T09:11:59+00:00

i'm going to have to play devil's advocate here and say that this is simply human nature and doesn't solely revolve around women (although women are much, much more cynical when it comes to these situations. i'll give you that). as someone who has struggled with depression my entire life, even i can't stand being around sad or bummed out people. just how i can't even begin to tell you how many times being depressed or pissed off would only push people further away from me. it's the shitty side of human nature where even the best of friends typically can't stand more than an hour of talking about shit that matters to you. human emotions are contagious and negative emotions will set off that fight or flight part of our brains. some people will listen to your problems, but no one will ever admit that they don't want to (and trust me, nobody really wants to hear about your problems). there's a great line from the film oldboy:

"laugh, and the world laughs with you. weep, and you weep alone."

i'm seriously not trying to sound like a dick with this personal observation of mine, so please don't take this as an insult.

snowmander · 2014-03-09T04:30:09+00:00

I had a similar experience. I recently was in a situation with my girlfriend which seemed unsolvable (I won't go into details about the problem, but it was of no fault of my own, I just wasn't able to solve it. It's also not relevant to the story). We had a long talk where I told her I felt helpless, because I honestly did at that point. Two weeks later, she's calling me and telling me she doesn't know if she can be in the relationship anymore. She's bawling her eyes out, rationalizing why she doesn't want to be in a relationship with me, without coming out right and saying it. It was also at the same time we were about to book a vacation with friends.

My response is that I understand where she's coming from as it is a difficult problem. I say that it's fine if she doesn't want to be together anymore, and that we should reconsider booking these tickets as I don't want to force myself into an awkward situation in the future.

Her response to this is "You actually think we shouldn't book the tickets?." I say, "Yes it's definitely crossed my mind."

I stopped talking to her about this problem, and started getting shit done. I realized I was feeling worthless because of the way she was treating me. I stopped paying as much attention to her. I focused on seeing my friends, and I got a new part time job (in a respectable field) on top of the current position I have (which is also respectable). All of a sudden I have less time on my hands to spend with her. I was happy because I am now making more money, seeing my friends, and generally being successful.

A few days later (of me being busy, and unconcerned about the state of our relationship), she asks me to hang out one night. I tell her ok, we can make dinner and hang out. I tell her what we are going to make for dinner, and give her a recipe. We have a great evening. She puts on lingerie and invites me into her bedroom. We end the night watching a movie that she knows I really like.

If it didn't happen to me personally, I'm not sure I would believe the obvious lessons here.

1) Don't share your fears with a girl

2) Always be striving for something more than your current life/job

3) If a girl thinks she has the power in a relationship and wants to break up with you, don't plead or beg. Let it happen. She's one of many women who would love to polish your knob.

Unbelievable to see the difference that a week of not acting like a wuss can make.

emptyform · 2014-03-09T02:58:39+00:00

The good part of making yourself a king is that people respect the king more than the queen.

DarkSayed · 2014-03-09T06:49:15+00:00

Could just be a coincidence in this case. However, generally, it is not a wise thing to share your failures with a female (except maybe your mother). I used to do that a lot and learnt from experience it is best avoided.

Pubesauce · 2014-03-09T03:37:11+00:00

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RedBigMan · 2014-03-09T09:04:16+00:00

Yep... The common saying around here is.

Women don't want to win. Women want a winner.

Women want a man who is successful. If a man is successful enough (even if Beta) then the level of success can increase his SMV to a high enough point he can compete with alpha males based on success and ability to throw money around alone.

Success and Money alone will help you get your foot in the door but it wont keep a woman in your bed and/or faithful on it's own.

opencover · 2014-03-09T16:32:37+00:00

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opencover · 2014-03-10T02:51:31+00:00

I've been in this situation before (my success level taking a dive). I tend to switch to bad-boy mode. I've seen so many unemployed average looking bad-boy (losers) get hot women. While I am job hunting I start pointing out hot women to my girlfriend--obviously stare at them more. I start demanding she cook/clean and etc.

When I get back on my feet financially then I start acting nice again.

/it is depressing that this actually works but you just accept reality and go with it.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-03-11T05:12:17+00:00

Yes they all respond this way. Today I got news that a very hot job prospect that was nearby (an extremely rare opportunity in academics) fell through. I emailed her immediately. Background, I am an Old Married guy in a 20 year marriage. When I got home I whined like a bitch for a few minutes before I could see in her eyes the concern and the growing distrust- if not disgust. So I stiffened and clammed up after telling her my alternate plan. Then I walked into the next room. She followed me and tried to draw me out but I was not going to fall for that! Cold Steel is all she got out of me. I think nailing her good tomorrow will do a lot for my anxiety.

edit...it did....(:

sweet4geeks · 2014-07-23T00:08:17+00:00

why would you want to be in a relationship with someone devoid of empathy for you anyway?

monsieurhire2 · 2014-03-09T04:06:00+00:00

Dump her. They don't all do stuff like this. It's one thing if you're whining about something trivial, but a temporary career setback shouldn't provoke this response.

toothbrush_your_anus · 2014-03-09T05:03:01+00:00

think of it like this, your girl spends a whole week teasing you wearing skimpy lingerie and promising some epic dick sucking and pussy pounding on friday night, then you get home excited and shes in sweatpants stuffing her face and crying at maury reruns eating bon bons and absorbed in her own shit. you cant have sex cuz she got a head ache from her period projectile vomiting thru her underwear all day. you would be like WTF BITCH!! and probably try to fucking leave and find someone who isnt a gross disgusting cockteasing slob that lied all week

no one likes being around failure or listening to other peoples problems (unless u pay them $300/hr maybe), its just that men can put up with it for awhile with people they like because they have been there before. women never fail, if they do its a mans fault somehow, so naturally they have zero capacity for actual empathy.

Doomsday_ · 2014-03-09T20:02:38+00:00

Stupidly told her immediately without thinking because I was super bummed.

She doesn't want to hear about your failure. She doesn't know what to do with your failure. She just wants your success.

I think the problem is not so much the fact that you didn't get the funding, as the fact that you exposed your disappointment about it and thus appeared emotionally vulnerable and weak. If you had told her that you didn't get the funding but had remained completely unfazed, her reaction would probably have been much less negative.

Almost all of us will suffer failures and setbacks in the course of our lives. Keeping these secret from others is cowardly and impractical. What's important is maintaining unshakable state control and a rock-hard frame, and thus facing up to failure and rolling with the punches. To become high-value one must be a man who can accept the reality of failure while remaining secure and confident in himself. Master yourself and master the world.

czworooki · 2014-03-09T23:16:48+00:00

She just wants your success.

And we want some pretty girl. Who would stay with once beautiful girlfriend that turned into fat, smelly beast?

magicpalapa · 2014-07-01T03:27:53+00:00

Yeah --- if it was your girl that didn't get the funding she would've probably bragplained it and making it excusable. Women pull this shit all the time. My buddy put something together on the topic -- makes sense -- hope it helps. Once last thing amigo - you'll get the funding one way or another. http://redpilltimes.com/bragplaining-used-todays-woman/

MoldyClownSuit · 2014-04-12T03:46:48+00:00

I dont know what TRP is about sometimes.. You cant do all these things in front of women, but thats being dishonest. If i have to hide some of my emotions to stay with someone, thats not going to last very long. Its very manipulative of men to try and always act successful and hide any flaws just like its manipulative of women to dress a certain way..

Talkshitgethit · 2014-03-09T18:18:00+00:00

This is why it's important to have family (your own, father, mother brother/sister/cousin etc.) and some good bros or a therapist you can talk to. It's not healthy to keep your emotions in all the time. Becaue sometimes, you need to vent and get that emotion out.

But don't convey your emotion to your woman.

implodemode · 2014-03-09T15:19:41+00:00

You men don't seem to realize that there is a difference between being emotionally sensitive and being a wimp. A man can react to failure with deep disappointment without being a wimp. Women don't like wimps but will stand behind a man who can accept that he was beat out by someone else or was simply not good enough as long as he doesn't act like a child and blame someone else and pout about it and give up because you think there's some fucking conspiracy keeping you from getting what you think you deserve. All the little princesses out there don't come with vaginas.

Title	Redpill and man as a "success object" really hitting home.
Author	rztzz
Upvotes	235
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Date	March 8, 2014 11:49 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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