The two most powerful weapons in a man's relationship arsenal: Stepping Out, and Walking Away.

ManiacalMango · 2013-09-19T23:20:49+00:00

A lot of guys don't know their own value. They don't know how valuable their attention is to women.

The dynamics of a relationship can change in an instance once a guy realizes he can just walk away and not deal with bullshit.

Florist_Gump · 2013-09-20T09:55:23+00:00

Don't ever allow your partner to deny sex.

Elaboration: realize what this denial entails and respond appropriately. This is the nuclear option in a woman's arsenal and should not be treated lightly. Its her holding a key aspect of the relationship hostage in order to get her way, its as if you withheld all emotional intimacy, if you are the breadwinner if you were to cut off all financial support to your spouse. These are not trivial actions and yet guys all too often take the no-sex threat way too likely and as if it should be par for the course. It isn't, or it shouldn't be, you shouldn't accept this treatment lightly, and you should make it very clear this takes the relationship negotiations to DEFCON 1 and that you're willing to walk away from a bad deal.

Every relationship I've ever had, at some point the girl tries this. In my younger days I didn't know how to respond and I acquiesced, at which point the girl gained control of the relationship, it went from being a partnership to a soul ownership with me being an employee. I figured this out eventually and learned when my girlfriend tried this to respond back with an equivalent relationship-duty strike. I walked away from the situation, I stopped spending time with her, I ignored her calls and texts, I effectively acted as if we had broken up. As that's what the no-sex threat is, we all bring something to a partnership agreement, if what you bring to the partnership is withheld then you've voided the contract.

Every time, EVERY time I've responded in this manner the girl restarts negotiations in after a few days, a few hours in some cases. They were baffled by my response, they were used to this being an always-win option, a get out of jail free card. They didn't realize that in tense negotiations the other side might walk away from the deal gone bad. In a panic they realize they'd pushed way too hard, had came to the table thinking they had a better hand than they did, and the relationship goes back to being a partnership instead of their desired owner-employee setup.

Don't get me wrong, in no way am I suggesting girls are nothing but sexual objects and lack the right to say no. I'm only saying that using their rights as a negotiation tool in a relationship power struggle is a non-trivial matter and the ramifications need to not be taken lightly by us all-too-confused guys who tend to view this hostage-taking as normal. I don't withhold financial support when my wife and I get into an argument over something, I don't stop being supportive when we disagree, but for some reason we accept the other side behaving equivalently is acceptable. Its not. Walk away from a bad deal, guys.

puaSenator · 2013-09-20T06:46:02+00:00

I recently had to do this. Even though we've slept together before, she started refusing sex, so I immediately left. She also wouldn't respond to some texts as long as 24 hours. So I just stopped talking to her altogether.

Any ways, guess who just hit me up for a booty call?

Ronfar · 2013-09-19T21:07:49+00:00

If only most men knew this, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now...

TRPsubmitter · 2013-09-19T22:05:48+00:00

No man of high financial value would ever place all his financial assets into one pot...why would any man of high sexual value place all of his assets into one woman?

You spread out your investment to decrease risk and increase reliability.

Sir-Dante · 2013-09-20T01:09:07+00:00

Feminists love to look at things like this and go: "WHAT!? A man will leave his woman simply because she doesn't give him sex? Men are just a bunch of pigs!"

VZPurp · 2013-09-20T03:15:58+00:00

Your most powerful weapon is the option of not only walking away, but having another girl (or few) at the ready.

A woman has absolutely no power over you if you can leave her and immediately have another one step up.

All my experience points to this being the most powerful weapon in my arsenal. Women can easily gain new partners just by showing up. If you have the skills to show you can do the same, you'll devastate any of her attempts at gaining power over you.

gmflag · 2013-09-19T22:31:17+00:00

women want attention and support (emotional or material) from high status men like men want sex from hot women. don't give them away for free. women respect male attention/support sluts as much as men respect female sluts, which is not at all.

Offensive_Brute · 2013-09-19T23:46:03+00:00

The third most powerful weapon in the mans relationship asenal, and one I have used effectively for many months in relationship prior, is generating the fear that you will step out or walk away. The media creates expectations and teaches women to look for things and be suspicious of things. If you know of these things, then you can use them to make her feel how you want her to feel when you want her to feel them.

No_disintegrations · 2013-09-20T00:38:24+00:00

Spot on.

The mindset every man should have is "no one has complete power over me." You are a monolith, and you control your environment.

Sinthemoon · 2013-09-19T21:57:54+00:00

I started this relationship making sure she knew I didn't think much about being exclusive. 2 months later, i thought about it and told it. I'd like it better if she didn't have sex with someone else. You should have seen her, she looked like a kid at christmas. Was way worth it.

I made sure to specifiy it didn't change my interest into a threesome with another girl, though.

2013-09-20T01:30:33+00:00

There's actually 3, the two ones you stated and

Being able to say "no" to any of her demands/requests/etc., depending on the situation.

This separates a man from the white knights who, by definition, cannot and do not turn down her requests both stated and unstated.

BeeGinger · 2013-09-22T23:41:35+00:00

This might be one of the single greatest things I have came across, recently getting divorced.

Marriage is the surrender of these supreme male powers, and that's why it's so potentially dangerous, and so rarely successful.

thats exactly how I feel.

vengefully_yours · 2013-09-19T23:15:04+00:00

Was married for two years, used both of those weapons this summer. My life is improving, hers is going to shit. She has lost weight, and she was only 110lbs when I kicked her out, she is around 85 or so now. Doesnt take care of herself, is scattered and unable to function at her job, and her new guy is so pathetic she will definitely not be getting the alpha 'hate fucking' she is used to and requires.

I have five plates going right now, two potentials in the works, and have handled all the bullshit she has sent my way trying to fuck me over. She is the laughing stock of all her peers, and her boyfriend has to endure jokes at her and his expense every time he goes to work.

The little punk is terrified of me and started carrying a gun despite me just minding my own business, working on my cars, and laughing when I hear from mutual friends and her coworkers how bad she is doing.

Her mother is trying to find out how I am doing from my neighbors, and all she hears is I am doing good. She was a big instigator of everything going to shit, so she is to blame for quite a bit of it.

Her dad has met four of my plates now, another just today and the look on his face was priceless. He knows how badly she fucked up, and he can tell I DGAF. The guy has been more of a father to me than my own, so I am not about to burn any bridges with him, and he is helping with the construction of my new shop.

If they fuck up, kick them out, to the curb and move on. It is the nuclear option for sure, and I wasnt married long enough for her to get any money from me. Im looking forward to when she starts crying to me and trying to come back because life is hard without me.... Yeah bitch, it sure as fuck is, isnt it. Its harder when you are stupid.

anal_cyst · 2013-09-20T08:21:59+00:00

this is why it's important to invest in a social circle. constantly meeting and interacting with new people means a constant stream of new options.

2013-09-20T13:54:51+00:00

Her weapon of withholding sex is only powerful if you won't get your needs met elsewhere.

Regarding this, it's amazing what how apeshit crazy they get when you withhold from them. She could always get it elsewhere, but that feeling you get knowing that you've taken away control from her is awesome.

Human_Isomer · 2013-09-19T21:18:24+00:00

Marriage, if not with a RP woman, is the surrender of male agency.

gmflag · 2013-09-20T20:13:09+00:00

This summarizes any negotiation or contract making of any sorts.

mono_pete · 2013-09-20T00:12:41+00:00

Marriage is the surrender of these supreme male powers,

Not if you're not afraid to use them. Last week, I used both: I'm walking, and I have options and this is her name. This caused an immediate change in attitude in my wife, and acceptance of all terms on the table.

Gregor0 · 2013-11-10T20:29:12+00:00

Ignoring people who want any type of attention is the best 'revenge' or 'redemption' that you can get. Don't waste your time on people that don't care for you.

2013-12-19T12:39:00+00:00

AMEN!

If you KNOW that at any time you can walk away from an interaction, then you have the power. If you don't want to play stupid games or be treated like shit, then be prepared to walk away and DON'T. LOOK. BACK. That confidence will emanate from you and women will play games less and less.

2014-01-15T07:28:37+00:00

I did not give away the first one, and continue to abuse it.

As for the second? Well, she's not bitching.

2014-02-24T07:56:03+00:00

The girl I am seeing tried to deny sex for the first time recently. I acted like I didn't care, and I casually joked about "knowing where else to get it". Maybe I was too literal and shouldn't have made such a strong statement, but it seemed to work pretty well. Instantly got a good blowjob. I feel bad though, the only reason she said no was because she is recovering from a urinary tract infection, maybe I shouldn't have been so hard on her, she wasn't using sex as a barter tool or something. At least now she knows.

Leudast · 2013-09-20T02:45:32+00:00

Sometimes this sub has thoughtful and interesting posts, and other times is fucking bullshit.

Entertaining though.

Bringyourfugshiz · 2013-09-21T18:17:31+00:00

I just stepped away from a friendship of many years. She thought because she was a pretty face that she could get away with saying what she wants. I loved the girl very much but after she dated my friend and the verbal abuse I said enough is enough. The look on her face when I told her we would no longer be friends was priceless.

bobsmith1111 · 2013-09-20T09:13:47+00:00

fuck OP, this is the best thread in /r/redpill ever. u just fucking blew my mind

2013-09-19T23:32:21+00:00

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Title	The two most powerful weapons in a man's relationship arsenal: Stepping Out, and Walking Away.
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