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When a woman gets older, she doesn't settle! She just, uh... changes her priorities! Yeah, that's it.

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Title When a woman gets older, she doesn't settle! She just, uh... changes her priorities! Yeah, that's it.
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needsomehelp3211

Upvotes 211
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Date May 9, 2014 3:33 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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Comments

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 90 points91 points92 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

AFBB, yep. Not even mad.

The thing that does get me is that chicks genuinely think they're doing beta guys a favour with this set up. "I'm finally giving you a chance! Lucky you!!!"

Yeah, no. If you're a successful, good-looking guy in your early 30's you can easily take your pick of early 20-something hotties. No guy wants a washed up spinster except the omega that can't find another.

[–]laere 36 points37 points38 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Dude I told my sister this today.

"Yea when I'm mid 30's and successful, I'll probably get a hot 19-20 yr old."

Her response: "Fucking disgusting."

[–]Patriarchal_Bondage 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But watch out anyone shaming her if she's the twenty y/o girl in that situation! Oh no. That's not happening.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Behold that double standard. Bitches are ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women: Lets shame older successful men into dating us because we made mistakes in our past without thinking about the future.

[–]2johnnight 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not a mistake, if it's a plan.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree. It's a feeling. If it was a plan, there might me a sense of regret. But they aren't aware of how they are at fault, they are just angry at the world about situations they feel out of their control.

Let's imagine I couldnt stop doing drugs when I was young and they severely affected my future. Later in life I sober up after my body can't handle drugs anymore, I still love drugs, they just cause me way more pain then pleasure now. So I get angry when I hear that my friend becomes a drug dealer. It's the drug dealers fault I'm in this situation! It couldn't have been me not having any foresight or self control when I was young! I made a mistake, I wouldn't of planned to do this if I knew I would end up like this!

Well, who can I blame then? I know! It's the drug dealers fault! He gave me all those delicious drugs! Shame him for trying to make a living instead of addressing the cause of the issue or educating young people about the dangers of making a choice like I did, because it's not my fault! All off this just happened to me!

[–]2johnnight 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If somebody says: "I want to do drugs now, because they are exciting. I am going to quit them later, because that is healthy.", I call this a plan. Wanting the drugs is a feeling, but it's still a plan.

[–]jhthm 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad I don't have a sister.

[+]Maiotome -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't that risk your success? I mean, if you had a great job, a great reputation, lots of money, you'd have to be pretty mature and sensible right? Why risk that with a 19 year old? Someone who's not as mature, who doesn't understand finances. I bet in reality you'd go for a similar, aged sophisticated lady, just for the simple pleasure of feeling secure and avoiding drama.

[–]iamreallyMittRomney 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Upvote. I think it'd be somewhere in between. As skeptical as I am of women who try to wrap men up in marriage early in life, if I'm a successful man in my mid-30's then I am skeptical of a woman my age who is finally "ready to settle". I agree though that I wouldn't want to put up with teenager bullshit either, so I guess you fuck a few 19year olds and then find a woman that's say... 24-27? Just my thoughts, what do you think?

[–]Maiotome -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude, the whole whole concept of young women dating older successful men is because they want

  • someone mature, sensible, who's unlikely to break their heart.
    • money

Either way your plan is screwed.

[–]still_very_alive 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, tell me what a woman in her 30s who's finally ready to settle is looking for?

[–]TEE-HAWK -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not unless you screw them first then dump them, duh!What do i look like marrying a fucking teen! We're talking about fucking these chicks, not spending are lives with them iamreallyMittRomney had the right idea. Fuck a few, then find some one in the 24-27 range.

[–]logically_ 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The extent to which they reveal their past is proportional to how beta their BB is.

[–]Goupidan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She claims that guys sleep around in their youth too, is there any substance to her claim?

And if guys do, is the situation analogous to women who settle with the provider after hitting a wall?

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Goupidan 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's true, you're right. Not all guys sleep around. Women are highly selective.

[–]toysjoe 113 points114 points115 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

So if as a kid my priority was to drink beer and smoke weed, but I grow up and "change my priorities", does the world still owe me a high-income job?

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am going to use this analogy in the future.

[–]elevul 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you do have a degree and positive work experience, I don't see employers caring about you drinking beer and smoking weed in the past (or even now for that matter, as long as you're productive).

[+]2wiseclockcounter -36 points-35 points-34 points 12 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Pretty poor analogy. Most employers don't give a fuck what you did in the past. If you can do the job, you can do the job. The reason it's a bad analogy is that the employers (the husband-material man) didn't want you when you were smoking and drinking. However, the husband-material men DO want the hot young 18-20 year old chicks.

Edit: lol 18 downvotes? a couple would have sufficed.

[–]a-ko 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think /u/toysjoe was getting at the idea that when someone realizes they want a 'high paying job', they don't have the experience nor skill set to obtain it. They spent their youth squandering it away in favor of "having fun", and at some point realize it's all dried up and that's that.

[–]1aguy01 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Riding the carousel directly impairs your performance in, and your commitment to, an LTR. Not only are you not practicing your 'skills for the job' but you are doing drugs that permanently damage your brain and reduce your capacity to perform the job.

[–]toysjoe 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My point is, am I worthy of something just because I have good intentions but have done nothing (or in this case, done the complete opposite) to deserve it.

The answer to that is no.

[–]ModAerobus 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Most employers don't give a fuck what you did in the past.

This right here tells me you've either never applied for a job, or you have, but for something low end and you don't have an actual career going.

[–]2wiseclockcounter -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess the field I'm pursuing is a little less strict than others given how it's completely results based. And I can admit that. However, as far as the path I have chosen, I've been on it almost 8 years now, but I suppose if it's not pulling 150K it's not an "actual career", right?

[–]kruddthemessiah 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Post a couple pics of you smoking weed and boozing it up on a public facebook and apply for a job in a high end law office

With a semi decent HR your resume will be binned within minutes

[–]jobs33ker 42 points43 points44 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Someone should PM him and direct him here. He seems like the type who's slowly figuring shit out. I think he just needs a push in the right direction and his eyes could be opened..

[–]TVTestPattern 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Done

[–]iamreallyMittRomney 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cool! Did he respond?

[–]TVTestPattern 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No I just posted a link to this thread

[–]RPModulator10 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, you could definitely see the gears turning, but slowly . . .

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 159 points160 points161 points 12 years ago* (67 children) | Copy Link

Oh my gosh, this top comment is priceless.

I will chime in as the woman's point of view. It is not settling at all. It is really just growing the fuck up. Bad boys are fun and exciting. They make you feel alive. In your younger years this is the goal you feel alive. You mistakenly think all these women are madly in love with these men and that is rarely the case. It is fun. In your younger years that's the goal to have fun and live it up. To go to parties, travel meet people. It isn't the time to start the rest of your life. You aren't looking for the one.

Then you get your real job. You get a house you start accumilating responsibilities. You begin looking for that individual you will love forever. Not just for the week. You want not only physic attraction at this point but a real connection. Someone who makes you smile. Who brighten a your day. Who you can tell anything to. That ONE person that completes you. You spread your horizons bringing into the possibility of different men. After all you aren't looking for fun an excitement anymore you're looking for the rest of your life.

So you see they aren't settling. It isn't your wallets or your stability it is genuine attraction and want. The bad boys get the girl for a minute but guys that are good that are kind gentle responsible loving? They get them for life. Now if you're a cruel ugly asshole. You just lose. And BTW men spend their entire youths chasing the easy party girls. Then they grow up and search for the girl that completes them. It isn't an unbalanced gender thing. It really is just youth.

http://i.imgur.com/a1zDQWb.gif

You know how it is how every time a celebrity, athlete, or politician fucks up, they'll wait a few days then give a press conference which was obviously written by a PR firm and is full of sugarcoated doublespeak?

Women have that PR firm in their heads. Just listen to the way they talk.

She meets a simple looking but rich guy -> "I'm so attracted to the way he's driven and motivated by success." It has nothing to do with the BMW, the jewelry, the lavish vacations, or the jealousy of her friends.

She gets used as a cumrag by a drug dealer with prison tattoos and giant muscles -> "He's a fascinating character once you really get to know him." It's that secret underlying nice guy deep down that attracts her, not the dark triad gina tingles she gets when he pins her down and fucks her.

She gets used as a cumrag by the same guy while she's in a committed relationship with the rich guy -> "It just happened, it wasn't emotionally at all, it was purely physical, you have nothing to be jealous of." It has nothing to do with the fact that she's getting her bux but still needs her fux.

And, of course, this. She gets old and those dark triad drug dealers just don't want to fuck her anymore -> "I've matured. I'm ready to give up on all the partying and bad boys, and settle for my One True Love TM who will love me and treat me right." This was totally my choice guys, and totally not something I was forced into because of my beer gut, sagging tits, and child she's stuck with from the drug dealer.

Take the things women say with a grain of salt.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 160 points161 points162 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The bad boys get the girl for a minute but guys that are good that are kind gentle responsible loving? They get them for life.

The same way that someone who buys a 10 year old car on Craigslist keeps it for life. Real draw.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that is a great analogy

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the best fucking analogy I've ever heard.

[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of something Tom Leykis used to say. Who wants the 10 year old used Corolla when what guys really want is the hot new sports car.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol so the prize is a woman that's done with sex, thats what one hopes to gain for life? If I wanted to be stuck without sex I wouldn't need anyone but myself to fulfill that. Thanks though, for thinking of me and all, but next time just get me a gift card.

[–]semigod__ 47 points48 points49 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

you just need to read between the lines.

In your younger years this is the goal you feel alive.

she even admits she rewards the exciting badboys while she is fresh and excitable. but when she is withering, its not about feeling alive anymore - its about the safety you give her to wither in peace.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Such a depressing and desperate view. How awful it must be to watch a wife bloat and wallow into decrepitude over a lifetime.

[–]RockinRhombus 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck. In my BP days, I broke the stereotype and "got out of the friendzone" with a girl who was pretty much out of options.

Foolishly, I thought it was a victory at first, until I realized (post her cheating) that she had 1.settled for a while 2. pulled a fat-ripcord and was pretty much in the worst physical condition of her life. Whereas when she was riding in the carousel she was in the best.

Even still, being as fat as she was, the second she got any attention from some other thirsty ass BP, she jumped ship. (I hit a rough spot that greatly diminished my smv)

The clarity, being able to reflect back on that.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's why it's hard for me to pay any attention to 25+ women. also, being 27, our SMVs are somewhat intersecting: they're over the hill and I'm not.

[–]Pubesauce 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And then once you hit 30 you earn the duty of having to explain to every single mother why you are unwilling to raise Chad's kids for him. Women who were previously out of your league are suddenly making advances on you, confused as to why you're rejecting someone that would've stepped over you only a few years before.

I just got into my 30's and it's already shaping up to be a rather interesting change of fortune as far as women go. These women honestly think that we're assholes for not taking them under our wing and giving them stability and security simply because they used to be pretty. It's been hilarious watching so many women hit the wall on facebook these past few years.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I sadistically enjoy the fuck out of the wall.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 112 points113 points114 points 12 years ago* (40 children) | Copy Link

Look at what this woman is actually admitting.

Women know when they're fucking around with hawt D-bags in their 20s and that they're just "having fun and living it up." They know it's just random sex with a guy they'll never marry. They're not "looking for the one."

This isn't mistakes, youth, and being naive. The women in question don't think they're actually in love, learn from these mistakes, and grow up later. They know damn well they're not in love and are just fucking unsuitable men for fun.

As they get older, they don't "grow up." They just have fewer opportunities due to no longer being perky and 22, and/or get bored of constant partying and fucking, and/or want to stay competitive with their friends who are all pairing off. They haven't learned and grown from their mistakes. They're just ready to settle down with some stability, like they always knew they would (eventually), and always knew was the right course. They just wanted to fuck a bunch of unsuitable men first for fun, fully knowing that the loser guys would still be there, still losers, when they were done having fun.

This is conscious. It's not a learning process. Women know the "right" course is to find a stable, nice guy, settle down, and get married. But they deliberately don't do that and deliberately run around having lots of sex with men they'd never marry -- not because they're naive or still learning, but simply because they can. They're not shunned for it, they're not shamed for it, and they still have a happy, hopeful loser man with a stable job waiting in the wings when they're done.

[–]CreepAcceptance 59 points60 points61 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Agree, at some level they know exactly what they're doing and simply looking out for their best interests.

I'm okay with this though - they can want whatever they like regardless of whether it's realistic or not. If they have the capability to pull this off and get it, well good for them. Likewise I can want a harem of busty 18 year olds who service my every whim and if I can get it then good for me.

However, I see there's a serious lack of transparency in the exchange between haggard post wall slut and clueless chumpy starry-eyed loser. These "losers" don't know what they're really buying into and what they're signing up for. They're buying the alleged "one female owner always garaged" vintage mustang without knowing it's a repainted drag car that needs an engine rebuild and transmission swap. They're ill equipped to deal with the kind of woman who's spent her life getting face fucked by a buffet of guys with who the loser can't truly compete, eventually she'll be pining for the raw animal attraction and fucking she loved in her youth and can no longer get. Those romeos are looking elsewhere.

The greatest immediate value of TRP is educating these ill equipped and blindered men that buyer fucking beware, these women do not have your interest at heart - or anywhere else.

TLDR: the woman will pursue her best interests, it's the man's responsibility to make sure he's aware of them and protects himself.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Succinct red - pill concept: Don't be the fool.

[–]rpacco 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone pursues their own interest, it's just that a great deal of men and boys in the western world have been given wrong facts and information about the world, and they act based on those wrong facts.

In rural, developing countries, you don't see any of these phenomena, or at least very few of them.

[–]1Zackcid 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TLDR: the woman will pursue her best interests, it's the man's responsibility to make sure he's aware of them and protects himself.

Summarizes pretty well why women hate TRP so much. The current system only works because men are ignorant of this shit, and women know this.

[–]Indianbro 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was hard to swallow. Holy shit.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except that mustang has been smashed into the guardrail repeatedly and put back together poorly, so not only does it need mechanical work, its an out of shape wreck that shows its age and hard as fuck miles when you look closer. It says 'Hey Im a BOSS 429!' When in reality its a 200 six C4 put back together with used up Falcon pieces.

[–]skyw4lk3r 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is conscious. It's not a learning process. Women know the "right" course is to find a stable, nice guy, settle down, and get married. But they deliberately don't do that and deliberately run around having lots of sex with men they'd never marry -- not because they're naive or still learning, but simply because they can. They're not shunned for it, they're not shamed for it, and they still have a happy, hopeful loser man with a stable job waiting in the wings when they're done.

I see. Women feel as if they are free of responsibility just by being a woman. That's really fucked up. If men do the same, then they don't like it. They aren't willing to be responsible and grow up. The ones that do try get drowned by the other feminists who don't want to be responsible.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The ones that do try get drowned by the other feminists who don't want to be responsible.

It's worse than this. There are a few "good girls" (though their numbers are rapidly decreasing), who behave like normal, female human beings instead of crazy-girls-gone-wild-attention-whore-super-sluts. They refrain from sex except within the context of serious monogamous relationships, have a low partner count and limited sexual experience, get married in their 20s when they're still pretty, perky, fun, and fertile, have children, and become very devoted to their husband, family, and home.

Feminists piss all over these women. These women made the free choice to be reasonable human beings and make good choices, and feminists hate them. They think it's a sign of mental illness to devote your life to a supporting role for your husband and raising your children when you could have had a career and been sexually adventurous.

They think it's a normal, acceptable, and even essential growing up process for all women to have an extended period of mindless casual-sex fucking with all kinds of men to "get it out of their system" before finally settling down. Any woman who limited her sexual activity during her youth is seen as somebody repressed (even oppressed), who missed out on important life experience because she was conditioned by the evil patriarchy to think that sex is bad and wrong.

What actually fuels these women is jealousy. They know they're used-up sluts, and that any man worth a shit would prefer a far more valuable, far more rational, far more virtuous, younger, prettier, more sexually conservative girl. So they deliberately offer young women terrible advice -- Just do it, live it up, have fun when you're young, YOLO, you'll be so happy! I am! We all are! Don't let men keep you from your fun. Ignore the fact that your instincts are screaming at you not to live that way. Force it until it feels right -- until you're so numb that you can't feel anything for anyone any more and hate yourself -- then you can finally just focus on how all those dicks feel. This is the life!

[–]skyw4lk3r 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

What you said reminds me of the a conversation I had with a girl long time ago, who was putting another girl who got married young (too young in fact at 19 or so) within the muslim community in India when we were talking about females in different countries. I remember telling her that - who are you to tell her what to do with her life? It's her life, and she did what she wanted to do, which was to raise a family within her community. Makes me respect the girl even more now. Even if she wasn't driven to pursue a career, she knew her priorities were in creating a family.

[–]TehFuggernaut 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I work with a girl (granted, shes 21 and dumb as rocks) who constantly talks about the guys she meets and dates. There is a new one every 2 weeks, if not more frequently. All the women I work with commend her.

I joke about how I have 3-sort-of-girlfriends right now. I get called a tramp, etc. Its all in good humor, but I'm just playing the field as a young, attractive guy in his mid 20s with a lot going for him.

My coworker? 21, receptionist making $12/hr, seventy lbs overweight. But she's just having fun.

[–]1Zackcid 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The national mantra for males of every single country of this planet should be "Never marry above 28". This would likely solve this fucked up phenomenon of women getting their cake and eating it too, while guys get the shorter end of the straw and are socially expected to comply to this bullshit.

There's no reason for a man to go for a woman when she's wasted her best years elsewhere.

[–]draketton 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't see it this way at all. I see a woman's plan A for life as involving commitment with a badass who gives tingles. Beta bux is the depressing plan B, the nasty surprise that awaits a woman who let herself go. Typical carousel path is:

  • Meet a few plan A guys amongst the dreck
  • mistake a few years of good youthful sex for a lifetime commitment
  • get lazy on self care and learning useful skills
  • wall hits ~5 years early due to lazy self care
  • plan A guys see the woman as "expired" and slip away
  • go to plan B.

I'm quite confident that step 2 is a thing. They fall in love, like for real, with the best guys they meet during their 20s. They pursue those guys with a very hungry, stupid, short-sighted strategy. They go all in on maximising 20s SMV and hope that this show is enough to covert contract their way into an LTR with chad thundercock.

What happens when this fails? Depends on financial situation. If unstable, beta bux. If stable, cats in home + male prostitutes on the side.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Women aren't stupid. Illogical and irrational about many things, yes. But not stupid.

A woman knows the difference between a one night stand, a fuck-buddy, and a committed relationship. She may be hoping, with every fuck, to turn her purely sexual thing with that hot asshole into a real relationship, but it never pans out. But she knows when she is and isn't in an actual committed relationship.

There are definitely girls out there that do fall for the douchebags they're fucking, but you underestimate today's modern, depraved hook-up culture. Today, girls get on Tinder, swipe right for a few hot guys who are in town for the weekend, are giving them blowjobs 30 minutes later, and never plan on seeing the guys again. Girls are, quite intentionally, engaging in sex with hot guys, fully knowing and not really caring about a future relationship with them, because they're young, pretty, and they'll be sucking some other hot guy's dick the next night.

Most of them only start worrying about finding a place to land when the opportunities for sex-at-will with hot guys start to taper off a bit.

[–]TheYellowPill 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is TRP so let's be honest. Both scenarios exists.

  1. The guy is upfront about not wanting LTR/marriage or it's pretty obvious the guy is a player and she's trying to change him.

  2. The guy is purposefully misleading with his words and promises of future commitment/marriage knowing full well he doesn't consider her marriage material. Her hamster can rationalize this for several years and even a decade. (Both sexes are guilty of this.)

[–]charlie_bodango 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what I plan to do to women approaching the wall who are suddenly interested in me.

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[–]1Zackcid 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not what he's saying.

Women aren't stupid. Illogical and irrational about many things, yes. But not stupid.

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[–]Modified_Hackware 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Not that I shit on girls but you're wrong. There's always a new wave of 18 year olds with no money to compete with the 28 year old women, with no money, baggage silly Disney notions and a pressing drive to settle and pop out children.

Again, women seem to just argue from their point of view, life doesn't work like that. No one left for me? Funny stuff.

[–]Maiotome 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except women in their 20's earn more than any other demographic.

[–]Modified_Hackware 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The average woman earns more than the average man - in their twenties.

I earn more than double what the "average" woman in her twenties earns (in my twenties). The comparison doesn't work because women already discount/ignore the bottom 80% of men anyway - since I and the other 20% looked after myself and my career I now get the "Earns more than any other demographic" women chasing me with the above scenario.

I'm not interested in average women, and women are definitely not interested in the average man.

[+]PrincessThinMint -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I'm wrong? Haha, you really think that's a phenomenon that only applies to the female gender?

[–]Modified_Hackware 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

Your anecdote specifically belies you arguing from your female centric point of view, when trying to talk about sexual marketplace dynamics as it relates to men. I'm not responsible for you missing the point, not addressing it then claiming mock offense on behalf of your entire gender.

No one cares about your "Hahas" here, it doesn't hold ground. But to entertain your childish notions, yes some men can argue from only their perspective and be retards that are intractable from their belief systems even in light of facts but they are drowned out by the de facto of how women behave.

A point I demonstrated to you in your other post about domestic violence and how you think women on men violence isn't normalised in society. Your viewpoint is so far removed from reality it's bent back on itself.

A woman can hit a man any time any place and be super confident nothing will happen to her. You know you can slap my face in a bar or pour a drink on me and nothing will happen. And you know if I hit you in the face or pour a drink on you I'd get arrested or jumped by ten white knights. You KNOW this and you still sit there and type out about how women on men violence isn't normalised. The dissonance from you intolerable cunts is amazing.

[–]PrincessThinMint -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

This is the second time you've used "notion," but I'm going to pretend your lexicon isn't an indication of pretension and move on.

I literally never posted an anecdote. And I really don't have time for someone who doesn't know the definition of a word he attempts to use in argument. Aw, shit. Strike two for being pretentious.

It's hard to wade through your mashed potato rhetoric enough to contextualize, but I'm afraid you also used the word "belie" incorrectly.

That's already three strikes. Then you go and employ that hideous use of "de facto", showing that you don't even know your parts of speech. Or maybe you just think a woman can't tell when you're desperately stuffing Latin phrases into your text?

And you get your neck all twisted up like it's not a natural reaction to laugh at you?

Your writing is so much florid, dressed-up drivel, I have lost all desire to be a part of this conversation. Maybe later you'll look over it and realize that the way you've addressed me has been completely disproportionate to and unwarranted by my few words till now. Perhaps not. But do have a good day.

Edit: If you're going to keep talking about the violence thing, then don't attempt to bring it here just because you know people agree with you here. That belongs either in my PMs or in the thread where it began, and I'll be happy to combat your worthless google-combing with actual studies. (And oh my God you edited your post just for that and the addendum of calling me a cunt? Golly, somebody needs a diaper change.)

[–]Modified_Hackware 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Same again; skip the point, cry foul.

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[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Red Pill is a male-centered site, focused on self improvement and sexual strategy, and how men can maximize their sexual success as well as success in other areas.

A discussion about a trait many women possess and how best to navigate the world knowing that trait is out there would be wildly off topic if we suddenly diverged to have a politically correct discussion about male behavior, or exceptions among women.

It doesn't matter what men do or don't do. This site is focused on male sexual strategy and success, not some kind of fair and balanced PC discussion on humanity.

"Men, too" and "Not all women" are worthless items to point out that are off topic and don't add to the discussion.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol the old 'oh no, being defeated by logic, initiate flailing windmill attack mode' strategy. A timeless classic.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol.

[–]1aguy01 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

His point still stands: A man can still easily pull prime women (18-25) when he is older and looking to settle down (30+), which means it is a solid long term strategy to wait. A woman will find it significantly harder to lock down a prime man once she is 30+, which makes 'just having fun' a poor long term strategy for her.

[–]PrincessThinMint -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's not necessarily true. I really don't see how you extrapolated your opinion to some statement about women and men a la larga.

[–]1aguy01 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

K.

[–]Maiotome -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure women are definitely shamed for sleeping around, more than any other demographic.

[–]TheSKSpecial 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

By other women. That is a key part of this equation. Women are shamed by other women for sleeping around.

There's no shame for a woman being called a "slut" by a man. Why? Because men are still validating her "slutty" behavior by giving her attention.

[–]jacobman 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And BTW men spend their entire youths chasing the easy party girls. Then they grow up and search for the girl that completes them. It isn't an unbalanced gender thing. It really is just youth.

The difference is that guys will bang the girl that completes them in their youth because they're actually attracted to her. The girls that we're talking about will not bang the nice marriage material guy when they're younger. Why? Because they're not actually attracted to him. Attraction doesn't really change much. For the most part what you're attracted to most now is what you're going to be attracted to when you're older.

[–]laere 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Big tits and bouncing asses. Until I die baby.

[–]Phaint 34 points35 points36 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll openly admit I've been so preoccupied with career and not dating or visiting TRP/blogs that her post almost had me. Embarrassing. Women are fucking tricky.

Thanks for the snap back into reality with your theory bomb brother.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Perfect summary and analysis. ♂

And to anyone who reads this - it bears repeating: women are hardwired to think and act in this way.

If it were a man performing such spectacular mental gymnastics, we'd accuse him of intellectual high treason and stone him in the town square. And we'd be right to do so.

But this is a woman we're talking about here. A silly, inconsequential woman. Her feels are stronger than her reasoning. Don't hold it against her.

Just keep her in her place.

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[–]The_Determinator 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I might get a pet hamster one day, just for the cheek of it...

[–]JohnGalt316 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it was a blue piller thinking from a woman's point of view

[–]Goupidan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm curious about her claim where she says guys sleep around in their youth as well. Is there any validity in her claim?

If so, is the situation analogous to a post-wall woman settling for a provider?

[–]AgentSmith27 -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with her. That is what happens to everyone. When you are young, the last thing on your mind is finding your soulmate. You want to fuck hot bitches. Most of these girls are not the ones you want to marry. That was basically the life of my 21 year old self.

The ones that are hot, and wife material, are typically taken off the market young (22-25)... usually by guys who know their value.

When you get older, you do have to factor in more than looks. Before that happens though, everyone goes for the hottest sex they can get.

[–]Maiotome -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Am I the only female here really put off by bad boys? They're really undesirable and unfashionable. Nowadays most women want that tall a handsome nerdy type. Seriously, go to any "hot" inner city, for example London, Oxford England, New York and ect and see that the bad boy is so old already. The things you're taking about are sickeningly old fashioned, it's like I'm being dragged back into the 90's. Don't delude yourself. Most attractive women want that nerdy type, even nowadays you can see a lot of inner city guys wearing casual suits and fake hipster style glasses. Either you're not from the west or you're from way out from the city.

[–]wanderingfun 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That preference doesn't displace the "bad boys", it is an expanded circle of hypergamous selection.

If the nerdy type wasn't associated with high-5 and 6-figure incomes, like back in the 90's, then the nerdy type wouldn't rank near the bad boys for selection today. What changed is the economic bifurcation, not a shift in taste in men. The reason you see these guys in the inner city is because those inner cities' real estate have gotten much more expensive over the last 2-3 decades, and a lot of these white collar worker nerdy types are spending to live in there. A lot of beta bucks in those areas.

[+]draketton -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a top comment, in fact it was the only comment in the thread to be downvoted below the auto-minimize threshhold.

[–]Blitz13 25 points26 points27 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I was with a FEMALE for 9 years.

I am 100% female I promise you. So far? I am pretty sure my man the fuck up level surpasses yours.

Are even lesbians pushing the AF/BB agenda?

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Being a lesbian doesn't chase away the hamster.

[–]RockinRhombus 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Though, I'd love to hear the kind of arguments they have. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.

[–]needsomehelp3211[S] 58 points59 points60 points 12 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Take-home point: This is basically the cliffnotes of hamstering. In a few paragraphs, she illustrates exactly how the female mind works and how girls will try offering any justification possible for why they try to grab a beta male later in life. Her "priorities" changed.

How does the man feel about this arrangement? LOL! Who gives a shit, right?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

I have heard this admission so many times. When I was BP I thought it was a compliment.

I... can't believe I used to fall for it. I'm not even bad-looking! I had a great job that put me in the top ~20-25% earning bracket of the age-group of the country I was in, but I guess in that social circle, I was just a young "great husband-material" guy with terrible confidence.

[–]semigod__ 41 points42 points43 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

yup, in my blue-pill days i believed the one who ends up marrying the girl is the winner, even if it takes some time for her to be ready for it. silly me.

the sucker who has to marry her pays the highest price for the least value. the winners are those who had her as a booty call when she was young.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 36 points37 points38 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

the sucker who has to marry her pays the highest price for the least value. the winners are those who had her as a booty call when she was young.

The car analogy people keep throwing around in this thread really fits. A fancy car at the dealership never gets sold, but gets taken for thousands of test drives by thousands of men -- for free. On some occasions, maybe the car gets leased for a couple of months to a guy at a very affordable rate. But eventually, along comes a gullible fellow who knows dick about cars, who pays full or near full price for a car that's never been owned, only test-driven "a few times," or maybe gently leased. And, of course, the car salesmen said this, so we can trust these facts.

[–]RPModulator-9 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

The car analogy people keep throwing around in this thread really fits. ...

Hmmm . . . I got my car straight from the factory. What does that mean wrt the analogy???

[–]skyw4lk3r 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Means the car is fresh, with the full engine rumbling down the road whenever you drive it. It will serve you well for a long time, assuming its japanese or korean of course

[–]widec 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It means you should properly maintain it in order to limit the problems that pop up and make sure everything is running smoothly.

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[–]bringer_of_fight 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea good luck adopting as a single man. Aka child fucker

[–]fruit7 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

we're essentially paying a lot for affection others got for free(and may probably continue to do so).

That hit hard. I didn't know how to conquer it with the proper wording but you've got it exactly figured out here, my gears have been turning for weeks trying to compose this thought and you just wrote it out for me.

Tell me why having a woman in my life is good for anything except sex. No seriously. Have a go.

Women are humans as well man. I can understand where you're coming from, however there's nothing wrong with having female acquaintances.

[–]The_Determinator 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's a basic human desire for company at least that should be there.

[–]RockinRhombus 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck am I getting? I don't need any woman's money. I don't care about her career(no man does, it is not attractive, and to say so is silly political correctness). I don't need a cleaning lady. I don't need her as a friend even. Women make terrible friends(men usually do it because they're desperate), and I don't give my friends the kind of maintenance that comes with a wife.

That's me right now. I don't like being "tended" to, women make shit friends (they can't/wont even help you move), and I don't want kids. You're dead-on about the shit personalities, too.

[–]PrimaxAUS 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everything you said is a big reason I haven't dated white girls now for years. In Australia, they're like eternal 12 year old boys.

[–]through_a_ways 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I see this false equivalency posted a lot on here. Non-white girls aren't any more kind/generous/feminine than white girls, inherently.

They just have less value (because they're not white), so they're much bigger pleasers (at least when a white guy comes along).

Desire also makes a big difference. Even though Asian girls are lower value than white ones, and thus easier to date, fuck, etc., they're still way more desired than black girls, and the difference manifests quite obviously.

In marriages with white men, white women have the highest failure rate, and black women the lowest, with Asians in between.

If you are white, you're definitely going to have a comparatively easy time fucking/dating these women, but don't make it out to seem like these girls are inherently more angelic/pure/feminine than white women. It's the same concept as white women bending over backwards for celebrities.

Personally, I still wouldn't marry one because I would want any sons I might have to be white.

[–]GiveMeABreak25 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Right, men are helpless to make their own choices too! They have no choice but to take this "arrangement". How sad :(

[–]deepsouthscoundrel 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The alternatives are frowned upon by politically correct society.

Good thing we tend not to give a fuck.

[–]GiveMeABreak25 -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The alternative of refusing to enter a relationship that one half of you sees as an "arrangement"? So you are saying there is literally no alternative, you MUST enter something you feel is disingenuous?

[–]deepsouthscoundrel 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not at all. I'm saying there are plenty of alternatives, but mainstream feminist society tends to shame men for pursuing them.

[+]GiveMeABreak25 -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

But, in OP's scenario, they are talking about women being the ones perceived as settling. Feminist tend to be supportive of any womens choice as her own. What feminists are you talking to? I don't know of any who simultaneously uplift a sister and her choice while putting the man in the scene down. That would be really......hypocritical.

I can't imagine a friend saying "Good for you, girl! Too bad he is settling"

Some people here would do well by themselves to meet some more actual feministswomen.

[–]heshKesh 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would be really......hypocritical.

You don't say.

[–]JeremySadusky -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would someone else give a shit about said man? He is suppose to be a grown up capable of taking care of one's needs and wants. Noone forcing anyone into any arrangements. She lives her life, he should live his.

[–]hashtagpound2point2 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In a woman's world, slutting it up with guys that don't give a shit about them = living.

[–]Dragontitz 40 points41 points42 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I hate how older women (25+) shame men for liking young women that are 18-21.

There the hottest and easiest women, but somehow that's wrong that it's easy for me. if women don't have all the power then it's immoral & perverted

[–]jhthm 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

When I was young my mom would tell me "play the field and when you're older (35ish) and your finances are in order marry a 18-20 year old and have a family."

Mom. The only woman I will truly love unconditionally.

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[–]jhthm 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes but I will never call you dad!

[–]CreepAcceptance 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If all they can do is attempt to shame you that means they have no other power to compel you to their will. Laugh along at their pathetic attempts, give them the big ol' shit eating grin and know you've already won. Entertaining their ideas by engaging in any kind of real discussion over your choices is a waste of time, you'll never agree. Be the lovable rogue instead and let 'em flick the bean to thoughts of you instead.

She's so young, what do you even talk about?

What do you mean... talk... ?

[–]Dreamtrain 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The way I see it, it is our own version/counterpart of their AFBB sexual strategy, the difference being we can continue the AF well past our prime.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

stop chasing the hot guys they really want and settle for me because I'm a safe bet/practical guy.

stop chasing the hot guys they really want and settle for me because I'm a safe beta/practical guy.

FTFY.

[–]Dreamtrain 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Subtle.

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[–]Mintaka7 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this sub is pretty much a Fight Club without the fights

[–]SariaLystra 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Toysjoe pretty much hit the nail on the head. The woman spent a lot of years of her life being a hypocritical slut and now, reality clubs her across the face. Suddenly, every nice guy she's made fun of and humiliated is supposed to sweep her off her feet? She spent years not improving herself and wasted away. What value does she have?

[–]through_a_ways 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Two fundamental variables at work here.

1) How hot the woman is. This determines how successful she is in attaining sex partners.

2) How worthy the woman is. Determines how successful she is in attaining relationship partners.

As a woman ages, she always becomes less hot, and almost always becomes less worthy.

I say almost always because there are an exceedingly small number of women who hold onto their virginity.

Anyway, the only real solution is a return to gender norms, where women were married in their early 20s, and casual sex and divorce were frowned upon.

[–]Mintaka7 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyway, the only real solution is a return to gender norms, where women were married in their early 20s, and casual sex and divorce were frowned upon.

It's going to take quite a fight to reverse the feminist mentality. And since the powerful young men actually benefit from this arrangement, don't hold your breath.

[–]lagspike 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"after im done fucking all these random people, i'm going to settle down with you. aren't you lucky?"

"it's ok to be a slut, everyone does it when they are young."

but when a 30 year old guy wants to date a 22 year old girl...

"have some standards, you cant look at a girl as a piece of meat!"

right, you fuck guys casually till you are 30 then have the nerve to call someone else a slut? do you know what a hypocrite is?

[–]jacobman 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Women want safety and a guy who will provide that safety and comfort for them and their kids. That makes sense. It's logical. However, many women mistakenly believe that because they want that, that their brain will go along with it and they will be able to love any man as long as he's a good nice guy who provides that. Amazingly they think that their attraction will be different once their priorities change. They think later they will love the dependable provider that they're not attracted to right now, and that they won't be drawn to the person that they are attracted to now. It's crazy I know, but this is what they think will happen.

[–]2johnnight 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

False. They want excitement. And at some point they panic, that they do not have the safety and go for safety. Once they got safety locked down, they want excitement again.

[–]Mintaka7 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this is what people here call Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks.

[–]gopher88 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even in my bluepill days I went nuts at girls who told me I was good for them in 10-20 years.

How is that not an insult... The only thing about me that I plan on changing in that time is where I am at in my job...

[–]duckducklandwhale 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Literal LOL. The way they try to re-word it is some funny shit. "We've just grown up". Aka "We've just been tired of not committment and being used by bad douchebros who are going nowhere in life, therefore we must now turn our attention toward the good, stable, less exciting men we ignored". I dont know how that idiot thought that was suppose to make the OP feel good at fucking all.

[–]steadymotion 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

When a woman gets older she actually does change her priorities. Nothing blue pill about it. On average as women get older their priority will shift towards getting commitment over sex.

And as the woman ages and her value goes down, she will have to bring down her expectations in partners. This isn't settling, because settling is when a high value person gets with a lower value person. In this case the woman actually is low value, so when she chooses a low value male she isn't settling, she simply had to adjust her priorities to reflect her now lower value.

I think men are the ones who actually settle more often than women, because men are more likely to misjudge (underestimate) their own value these days.

[–]iwantt 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree on your definition of settling. Settling is when you can't get what you want so you settle with what you have.

Women WANT alpha guys. Women want them and they spend their youth trying to tame one but ultimately they fail because they weren't a quality enough woman to hold on to the alpha or they weren't wise enough to realize the alpha was untameable before they tried (both really the same thing)

So now instead of getting what they want they settle for what they can get. The only reason they don't view it as "settling" is because they rationalize it away as a shift in priorities.

[–]steadymotion 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually I think you're right. That's probably a better way of defining settling.

But I think your perspective on what women want is somewhat shortsighted. Women want a lot of different things at different times. They have a dual agenda, both to get high quality male seed and to secure provisioning for their children.

But that agenda changes over time. When they're young, girls are attracted mostly to alpha males because their bodies are primed for reproduction. As they age and their fertility begins to fade, women literally do change their priorities as an adaptation. Aging women are more likely to already have children and simply need provisioning for them, so the woman begins to employ a strategy that involves securing commitment. However, this isn't to say teenagers don't enjoy attention from betas, and post-menopausals don't appreciate alpha energy. But the woman's priorities are definitely linked to her age.

Settling would involve a woman getting alpha seed that is not quite as alpha as the seed she really wanted, or a woman getting beta provisioning that is not quite as resourceful as the provisioning she really wanted, but this is a separate process from the change in mating strategy that occurs as the woman ages. If she claims that her lack of success (settling) is due to a change in priorities, then surely she is rationalizing away her failure. However, it is still important not to deny that woman actually do change their priorities over time, and this change itself is a very real biological strategic move and not a rationalization.

[–]deepsouthscoundrel 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

The foreveralones have yet to discover that women have dual mating strategies. From their perspective, they can only see the first (acquire sperm from the most-alpha males) considering their views of women stem from early teen/young adult interactions. They see the "alpha fucks" strategy as the feminine default. Thus, when women inevitably shift to "beta bucks" as they approach the wall, the foreveralones view it as women lowering their standards, not switching strategies.

Edit: in a way you could say that it would involve women lowering their standards. When women are in their "AF" phase there's little the Alpha could do that would make the woman leave (case in point). However, once she shifts to "BB", if the beta stops providing, she's out the door. Her loyalty to the alpha is contingent on his personality, whereas her loyalty to the beta is contingent on his wallet.

[–]luxury_banana 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The OP of that thread seems to grasp dual sexual strategy pretty well. Not in-depth and technically but for someone who's probably not even acquainted with any of the science, he knocks it out of the park.

[–]deepsouthscoundrel 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, not too bad for someone posting in foreveralone. It's redpill without the terminology.

[–]hashtagpound2point2 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

/u/idontfit just deleted this comment from the thread. Imgur

First of all..you're most likely alone because you're a bitter asshat. Second of all? I explained the thinking I NEVER stated that all that was me. Thanks.

I was with a FEMALE for 9 years. We had two kids together and I busted my fucking ass for this girl. She was fucking beautiful intelligent witty perfect in my eyes.

She left me when my son was two weeks old. Two fucking weeks old. How do you abandon a goddamn two week old?! The daughter I raised for six years. Who's hair I brushed? Who I walked into her first day of kindergarten? Tummy aches and scraped knees? She was snatched away by her fathers family. So here I have a son. Who doesnt know his sister. A daughter who doesn't understand why she can't come home to her mama ( me). And a woman I trusted ..who was clean the entirety of our relationship out smoking dope fucking around.

So you didn't get the hot girl in highschool. Quit being a bitter asshole or you will NEVER get the girl. You can sit behind your computer complaining how evil woman are ( and look as a woman I will give you that. Most woman are conniving self centered bitches) OE you can grow a fucking pair of balls and go find the woman of your dreams. I am 100% female I promise you. So far? I am pretty sure my man the fuck up level surpasses yours.

I was gonna ask her how most guys are going to find their dream girl when most girls are self centered bitches (her words, not mine), but it seems like she's running away from the thread.

[–]toysjoe 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Female logic (oxymoron): People just come out of their mom's vaginas bitter. Nothing happened to make them that way.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, guurl. We've changed our priorities, too.

[–]MisterMisogyny5 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This is due to hamstering around different uses of the verb "settle."

The woman in the top comment is saying that it's not "settling for: to accept in spite of incomplete satisfaction" (which I think is debatable since she'll probably still want to try SC and ride the CC if opportunity presents itself), but her hamstering prevents her from seeing that it is "settling down: to begin living a stable and orderly life."

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They make you feel alive. In your younger years this is the goal you feel alive. You mistakenly think all these women are madly in love with these men and that is rarely the case. It is fun. In your younger years that's the goal to have fun and live it up.

As if anyone needed further proof of social proof.

[–]niceguy_gone_cad 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sad thing there are stil so many desperate guys that will wife up one os those ex-carousel riders the first chance they get. That sub is bursting with them.

[–]TheYellowPill 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is not settling at all.

She's absolutely right. Because she rode the cock carousel and approaching/past the wall, her SMV dictates she can only receive commitment from beta chumps. If she could get commitment from a higher value man, she would. But she can't, so it is not settling. SMV != MMV.

It is really just growing the fuck up.

No, you've been thrown off the cock carousel by younger girls. Now you must try to land whoever will take you before your SMV plummets to 0 and nobody will commit except for Mr. Cat.

Bad boys are fun and exciting. They make you feel alive. In your younger years this is the goal you feel alive. You mistakenly think all these women are madly in love with these men and that is rarely the case. It is fun. In your younger years that's the goal to have fun and live it up. To go to parties, travel meet people.

This is absolutely true in modern society. Young girls just want to have fun--have their cake (alpha fucks) and eat it too (beta bucks). It's a shame these women were so short sighted with instant gratification/validation. TRP knowledge of AFBB ruins their beta bucks strategy and will result in them being only worthy of being a plate, not LTR.

You begin looking for that individual you will love forever. Not just for the week. You want not only physic attraction at this point but a real connection.

OP, her priorities do change. It went from 1. fun 2. stability --> 1. stability 2. fun. This can be due to a combination of reasons, alpha fucks don't want her anymore, declining SMV, biological clock (pregnancy), meaningless sex not as enjoyable after the 100th cock, etc.

It isn't your wallets or your stability it is genuine attraction and want.

Hamster level just went over 9000.

The bad boys get the girl for a minute but guys that are good that are kind gentle responsible loving? They get them for life.

/u/Cyralea makes a good analogy with "The same way that someone who buys a 10 year old car on Craigslist keeps it for life. Real draw." Who the hell wants to own a beat up rental car that everyone has ridden in over a brand new car? People who can't afford a new or low mileage car.

[–]PlusGoody 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no magic solution that can make you a happy beta. Obtain status, and abjure behavior that obscure your status. Let low quality women do what they want; they don't exist in your world.

[–]AuctionSniper 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Since when does being a bad boy mean you're an alpha?

[–]luxury_banana 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some really bitter guys who get no sex at all use it as an interchangable word that essentially means the same thing.

[–]TheIslander829 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea.

I think Tom Cruise is the nicest guy in the world, and the most alpha motherfucker I've ever met.

[–]sdfio230 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That woman herself is redpilled, she just doesn't know it.

[–]Goupidan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do guys do it as she claims guys do?

And if so, is it more morally acceptable for guys to sleep around?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't expect a woman to see her behavior as toxic. Its like asking a fish how it breathes under water. It just does.

They call it growing up, and they're only growing up because they're getting older. Ask them, if they were forever young, would they stop chasing hot ass? Fuck no. Cuz being forever young is like being a guy.

I'm not even sorry anymore. I deserve every last piece of ass I get. And if a woman whom I am married to, doesn't see beyond her own nose, doesn't see that I'm giving up everything for her, then fuck it. I don't need her.

The way to controlling women, is to tell them, you don't need them. [Don't be a fucking moron and tell them that in my exact words, you simpletons.]

[–]mighty_mogomra -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sent him a PM about the RP. Time will only tell if he takes my advice or not. (Could have been trolling for all I know.)

They don't call me Mighty Mogomra for nothing.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]BrassBody5 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So.... he dated a woman for 9 years, she had some other guy's kid who later took back the kid?

[–]2johnnight 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, look through her post history. Was pregnant, is now single mom.

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