Honest question for long time red pillers

SesameStreetPimp · 2019-10-04T01:18:57+00:00

Sometimes we forget how we got these girls then we go back to Beta behavior. Remember you got there because of the redpill.

Protocol_Apollo · 2019-10-04T00:56:20+00:00

You keep them in your rotation, keep vetting them and keep adding/pursuing more plates.

This way you won’t idolise them or “fall” for them for any wrong reason (ie them being your sole provider of pussy).

This is where the wheat is separated from the chaff- do you go back to your blue pill ways and pedestalise women due to your ideals or do you keep it red.

Whycantwealltwerk · 2019-10-04T02:39:27+00:00

It’s natural, at least 100,000 years natural, to emotionally desire a marriage or an LTR. So in a real sense it’s unnatural to be detached. RP recommends detachment for practical reasons. So it’s your choice, attachment or detachment, but I don’t think it matters because either option isn’t ideal.

thrwy75479 · 2019-10-04T00:54:13+00:00

I know about AWALT and I know what even these girls are capable of. And it’s happened and I’ve just brushed it off and moved on and got more girls

It's not clear whether you actually have the problem you're asking about. You've got it figured out.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-10-04T02:21:47+00:00

I remind myself that they aren't going to hang around unless I maintain certain things.

Maintaining those things requires a level of detachment.

I can still like the girls, but I have to maintain a level of outcome independence and low expectation.

Attachment can be born from scarcity. If I find myself overly attached, worryi g about outcomes I remind myself of abundance, to let go of results.

It's always my turn. I can't prolong my turn. She chooses it.

It's discipline. And the 80/20 rule for me. I spend 80 Perce t of my time doing what I love and what keeps me fulfilled. That makes it easier becUse I am choosing to invest my emotions in other things to women. I am more concerned with the outcomes Nd results of my personal goals and career.

You need a solid emotional foundation in stuff outside of them. If the playe keeps spinning, great. If not, I know I'ma be ok

Whisper · 2019-10-04T02:49:30+00:00

How in the flying fuck do you guys stay detached from multiple girls who display no red flags and are your EXACT type, basically the dream girls of your blue pill days?

Why would you stay detached from them?

NOWIFE · 2019-10-04T04:04:16+00:00

Hang around long enough and there will be signs. Also, Briffault’s law.

teabagabeartrap · 2019-10-04T06:47:50+00:00

I would say, it depends on how strong you feel.

It is easy to plate a girl. If you are with her, you show her your red side.

You impress her and guide her... when you are in bed or you are doing any activity you enjoy and which is in a field you mastered.

But imagine having a wife, that you eat cereals with at every morning for the next 20 years. Do you have a plan to keep her excited? And lead her all the time? Or lets say 90%. 10% you-fucked-up, is perfectly normal and OK. But do you have the WANT to have the whole situation on hard mode?

To be the man and fix things on the house/car/etc. Without asking for validation.

To stick to your word all the time. Get nagged about what to do next and keep on insisting, that you will follow your own plans. But show that you are having progress.

Your SMV will not anymore depend on looks and fun, but absolutely on everything you do.

At least this is my experience.

Owning your shit is then indispensable

furcryingoutloud · 2019-10-04T08:30:45+00:00

Concentrate on the abundance. Sure, many girls will seem perfect, but even unconsciously, they are working their game on you. It works in stages see?

Stage One: Be the perfect girl. This stage is where they are looking to snare you into an LTR

Stage Two: Begin to whittle you down to their expected mate. Subtly, they begin turning you against your friends. Just asking questions that make you wonder about the validity of their friendship. Questions that make you wonder how you ever lived without their "wisdom".

Stage Three: You are now friendless, your full attention is on them, your life revolves around them. You can't make a move unless you receive their approval. Want to buy that car? "Let me ask my LTR". You want to join the gym? Your LTR will have the answer. Spend some money on [Insert wish here]? Better ask her approval.

Stage Four: You're toast. You don't need Stage 4, this is probably the stage where she loses interest in you because you failed all the shit tests while admiring her ass and wondering how you got lucky enough to land her.

NEVER GIVE UP ON QUANTITY

GonadGravy · 2019-10-04T02:33:32+00:00

Staying detached is easy when they are abundant and you know your worth. If you find one to gamble on, you vet her over the time and watch her actions to calculate the risk/rewards.

It makes a lot more sense when you are actually in that situation, which is why I find it funny that you’re asking. If you’re drowning in top shelf pussy, you’d already know it, or rather feel it.

huey764 · 2019-10-04T03:01:46+00:00

Dont invest in them

Merica911 · 2019-10-04T02:31:55+00:00

What’s the question?

44361066 · 2019-10-04T06:27:15+00:00

So damned if you do damned if you don’t, okay

Let the indicator be yourself, especially your age and maturity. Are you ready for a commitment?

For example I can’t see myself in a relationship because I’m just 24 and not in the maturity which will allow me to dominate a girl in the long term.

Zombiespire · 2019-10-04T07:36:26+00:00

Here's the way I see it. The ultimate end game is to settle down with a true wife. Yes there is a risk, you know what they are, but we can't spend our lives waiting for that. You're a man, you can prepare for the worst, and when it happens you can handle it. Just don't stop being a man to love this girl.

It's ok to fall in love. We have to find our way back to the old world in whatever way we can.

beginner_ · 2019-10-04T09:00:26+00:00

TRPs focus on plate spinning and not commuting is due to the fact that you should have absolutely done that before every thinking about an LTR. You can't understand it from simply reading.

And once you managed to actual spin 8 or 9s then you probably don't really need any help anymore. Or much more advanced and most content is geared at noobs.

So if you wanna try an LTR do it. Just be aware it will end and hence you need to be willing to walk when it's more burden that benefit and she starts acting up.

CypherMX · 2019-10-04T09:04:16+00:00

Afaik there is only one way how to stay detached - having a strong sense of purpose. If your purpose in life is your strongest passion, then all women become second fiddle. That being said, one of the most common purpose men find for themselves is to raise a family, this encompasses both BP and RP men. Even if this is the purpose you are gravitating towards then all the more reason to stay on strong RP grounds, otherwise the 9-10s will stop dating you. Just make sure that this is what the real you wants, and not something that your inner BP beta is pushing on you because it found "the one" or something like that.

RivenHalf · 2019-10-04T09:57:31+00:00

Learn to stay with those women long enough to experience their bullshit...detachment will come

wanker7171 · 2019-10-04T11:46:22+00:00

Remind myself that I don't have them and it's no big deal, but I've had girls go from being completely into me to nothing at all. As a result I've already been conditioned to feel this way. Although it's almost impossible to completely detach yourself from them because you're constantly thinking of inside jokes and teases you can draw back on, which means you are going to be thinking about them at least a bit

InformalCriticism · 2019-10-04T12:03:39+00:00

They're calm and easy going, because they have a glut of abundance mentality. That fades over time if you stay with them, because as they start to realize they're the ones with fewer options, they're going to mix in comfort and shit tests and keep their DMs open on IG.

She'll fuck you while she sends nudes to celebrities. You're being used for dick and comfort while she plans her "retirement" with men who've already crossed the finish line.

redbananaboard · 2019-10-04T12:04:10+00:00

In my experience, I think it works like that (at least for me). You increase SMV, the hard work pays off. You start attracting bitches without even trying too hard. You spin plates, you have all sorts of adventures. Great sex, ok sex, and mediocre sex.

At some point, you don't even know how one of those girls start to look more interesting than the random hot bitches you've been having as plates and BOOM! You're dating/LTR. Shit goes south in X time for whatever reason. Back to spinning plates, as long as you didn't become a weak beta piece of shit.

I think there's nothing wrong with LTR's as long as that is something you want and don't interfere with your top-level goals. If the girl is legit and you hold your frame in the LTR it can be fun as fuck too. Just remember LTRs are TRP on hardcore mode. You gotta be applying the principles like a pro if you want shit to work. Always make her feel as if she's lucky to be there with you and that you have options.

My mindset is to be engaged until a certain extent but never overly attach. If you're in an LTR and you feel you might die if you leave her or vice-versa go back to the sidebar and man up! Note that TRP is a set of principles, not rules. You don't need to be in pussy destroyer mode all the time, do whatever feels good to you and your goals in life. I hope it helps homie.

Frisky-Fox · 2019-10-04T12:09:13+00:00

Why stop there, you’ve got a bunch of 9’s and 10’s. Introduce them, start dating them all together. Make some babies and raise them as a collective? The world is what you make it.

Nothing is serious, and everything is serious. Whatever makes you happy.

ToraChan23 · 2019-10-04T12:19:26+00:00

Because there is no "dream girl". Just girls.

Who she is today is no guarantee that she will be that person tomorrow. You ALWAYS have to be on your game, and realize you are ALWAYS replaceable, just like she is. You don't just go into autopilot and think you made it to Easy Street.

You enjoy the ride, but don't get locked in and think it will be permanent.

Crixusgannicus · 2019-10-04T13:28:55+00:00

How?

Simple.

Always Remember and Keep in Mind!

1 The Wall Is Coming!

and

2 NO WOMAN ESCAPES THE WALL! It's not a question if IF, it's a question of WHEN and how HARD it hits!

Search this name:

"Brigitte Bardot"

daymi · 2019-10-04T13:35:17+00:00

How in the flying fuck do you guys stay detached from multiple girls who display no red flags and are your EXACT type, basically the dream girls of your blue pill days?

By making the mistake of overcommitting and then them losing interest, over and over again. Eventually, you understand that you must not make them too comfortable ever, and, even if you like them, don't supplicate ever.

You have to be in control all the time and they have to be submissive (they like it more anyway).

Hydrakeen · 2019-10-04T13:41:02+00:00

Sounds great. If you choose just one, maybe you dont get bored with them in 3 years. Maybe she doesnt get bored of you.

How are your finances? What else do you want to do with your life? Go live it, escalate these women deeper into your life and see how it goes. Have a favorite plate and bring her a little more in. Try it with any or all of them but go on about your life and remember that people change.

One of the reasons it's going so well is because they DONT have you and that's attractive and they need to remain attractive to make you continue to feel like you should be with them.

Maybe that doesnt go away when you lock down, maybe... what do you have to lose except all the plates you have now?

You can always get more.

Truedemocracy5 · 2019-10-04T13:51:59+00:00

Nothing wrong with pursuing an LTR mate. For all it’s trouble there are also benefits.

Just remember to stay red pilled that she will leave/disrespect you if you begin letting up, and to always be improving

Drainstink · 2019-10-04T14:00:37+00:00

Because they have so so so much more options than you. Young women who are 9/10 change their minds at the drop of a hat. They cant commit and know what they want. Its just reality to expect it suddenly with those types

Don_Draper27 · 2019-10-04T14:09:16+00:00

It’s possible to have multiple girlfriends. Multiple friends with benefits who know about each other but are willing to share you.

hugaddiction · 2019-10-04T15:53:48+00:00

You can’t keep yourself from experiencing emotions. Instead of trying to control the emotion, control the response. Acknowledge your feelings that you are falling for one of these girls, that’s natural when you start dating women you think are of equal or higher smv than yourself, and remind yourself that she is not your soul mate because they don’t exist, she may qualify for monogamous relationship, which is ok, or she may let you down and need to get tossed aside. Stay rational, that’s all you can do. If a red flag shows itself, disengage, otherwise, congrats on scoring a worthy chick, or for as long as she stays that way.

Exo2303 · 2019-10-04T18:16:22+00:00

Because the moment you cave and move into her frame, she will begin to loathe you. It's extremely difficult to get the balance right, most dudes fuck up.

Godmode2229 · 2019-10-04T18:22:40+00:00

Give it time. AWALT will takes years to internalize.

alittletoosmooth · 2019-10-04T19:04:14+00:00

You don't know a girl until you've slept with her for at least 6 months. All of the girls I've been with who seemed perfect were just putting up a facade to achieve their goal of locking someone down. If they are still perfect after a while and your goal is a LTR, then go for it. Just keep your head on straight. Don't be blinded by the beauty.

mickenrorty · 2019-10-04T20:46:46+00:00

I learnt the hard way, at peak red pill lifestyle, I met a 9 that I Became attached to. She lost attraction pretty much immediately after I sent her flowers at work one day, having had been treating her flippantly up til that point.

It was just my turn, she went on to fuck her boss who was married with two kids.

Gawd she was fun and dirty, we’d use the disabled toilets to fuck on our lunch breaks in our office building, panties to the side, fist full of hair in front of the mirror.

Anyway the way she suddenly lost attraction and was able to move on and how hard it seemed to hit me was a wake up call I became a little more mindful and self aware from that point

LLL3peat · 2019-10-04T23:46:29+00:00

Simple. Treat them as if you don’t care. Treat and interact with them as if they are human beings(hint, they are) but you have more than one to choose from.

It’s like having a box of crayons, you loose one of the 64 pack, find another one to fill it’s place while you have others.

If you want to have an LTR then you start to narrow them down one by one over the course of a couple weeks.

DrExtra · 2019-10-04T03:52:04+00:00

Reeeeeemmmmeeeeberrr yoooouuuurrrr puuuurrrpposeee in lifeee....put yourself first...first...firs....fir...fi (echo and fades away). Nah but for real that helps.

deathhandmachiavelli · 2019-10-04T12:25:29+00:00

There are a lot of misconceptions about relationships and 9s and 10s, among those even in the RP community.

IMO, the goal of the Red Pill shouldn't be to spin plates until eternity. You are going to get old, and eventually, a family with kids and a great LTR with a 9-10 is the ultimate goal. Its RP on God Mode and most can't master it, even here.

But I'll be honest with you. I am in an LTR with one of those 10s. She's not the first great one that I've had and I don't turn into the blue pill beta. I got where I am with practice. 9s and 10s actually make the best girlfriends, they rarely bitch and rarely shit test (IF you have mastered the game, are high SMV, and are socially intelligent). You are realizing this, most people don't believe me when I tell them this, but you are getting a taste of this reality.

You can LTR a 10, if you continue to be your high SMV, RP self, you can have a great quality relationship with her.

Now for the bad part, even though you have a great relationship with this girl, you must stay somewhat emotional detached and accept the truth that it can always end. You always need that back up plan, and you always need a roster of girls to take her place if it happens. Now for the other bad part, if she thinks that you CAN'T get another 9 or 10 at any time, or she is too hot for you, your relationship will go south quick. If you have enough balls, you get to LTR a 10 and have a great relationship, but you can never go beta or forget how to do it.

Fuck everyone who doesn't believe me, but I'm the guy who has experience with quality LTRs with 10s and speak from experience.

Scriptopeia · 2019-10-04T17:26:05+00:00

Hello, I have 10 girlfriends and make 200k a year. Can someone help me with my life??

Title	Honest question for long time red pillers
Author	Whycantwealltwerk
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Date	October 4, 2019 12:22 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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