Outlook on women

PeautyBrinciple · 2019-12-26T16:58:00+00:00

It opens your eyes to how the game needs to be played in order to find success. We have been conditioned to behave otherwise and so that's why it feels like an act. It's also why one can become disillusioned with the game. To this day I still have to be conscious of not falling back into BP behaviour with particularly attractive women because the conditioning has been ingrained so deeply. I remind myself that women are not the focus and that they are a "game on the side".

legitniga · 2019-12-26T17:52:29+00:00

Changed my viewpoint on human nature really. I just don’t believe in love anymore or take anyone too seriously. I’m not angry at women, it just is what it is.

TigerTamingSword · 2019-12-26T17:37:45+00:00

It's normal, most of us went through such a phase. In the end, it's silly to disdain women for not being what you wanted them to. It's like resenting dogs for barking - it's only their nature. The same way you enjoy your dog because of his dogly ways, you need to be able to enjoy the company of girls because of their Feminity. Appreciate the feminine essence, the same way you enjoy good wine or art. The beauty of this line of thinking is that you simply can't attach your feelings to one single woman - they're all potentially beautiful, and if she fucks you over, oh well, onwards to the next adventure, without resentments, without neediness. There are no unicorns, but there are nymphs aplenty. What a waste would it be to forgo such a delightful aspect of life because of preconceptions about virtue and honor that were never theirs to begin with.

InformalCriticism · 2019-12-26T17:21:18+00:00

It's just the feeling you get when the Disney veil is lifted from your eyes. You start to see the world with empathy for women, to see yourself the way they see you.

If you start to hold them to a higher standard than you hold yourself, then you start to get into trouble; if you don't think men are capable of selfishness in the same way women are, then you still have a lot of missing puzzle pieces, and you could turn your rage outward.

You need to understand the rage to be a result of learning the truth about human nature, which is no more the fault of "all women under the age of 65" any more than it's your fault for believing a fantasy version of reality.

Just don't get stuck in a loop of hate that keeps you from your goals.

For me, I just dramatically reduced my interest in women in general. From thinking most women were full of potential for rich relationships to understanding almost none are worth that amount of time or dedication.

You're just seeing reality for the first time, but it's in contrast to a much better imagined version of life. It sucks, but the sooner you accept the world and human nature as it is, the faster you can make the most of it.

lonelyguy64 · 2019-12-26T17:05:35+00:00

Yeah a bit, when i was younger i would do anything for a woman. Now i could care less how they feel about anything, i gotta worry about my own self interest because if not me then who will. No one is obligated to care about you in anyway; there is conditions to everything.

Tousen71 · 2019-12-26T17:07:48+00:00

Yeah...once you’re red pill aware it’s hard to ever be satisfied with ONE woman.

Once you understand hypergamy it kicks in for you as well.

You strive to become a higher value man to attract and keep higher tier women.

Once you’ve fucked enough women you realize their pussy has marginal value and YOUR time (particularly alone time) is MUCH more valuable.

Sadly, I would wager many red pill men have a hard time having kids and starting a family.

We understand female nature, don’t let ourselves get to close, and maximize our ratio of less time in / more pussy out.

When I find a good one I’ll likely settle down but she’s gotta be better than anything else I can pull. My game isn’t there yet but I can attract celebrity-level dimes on a good day so I know the potential.

TRP_Scepter · 2019-12-26T19:00:48+00:00

There's a quote I saw floating around the manosophere...I forgot who said it or where it came from, but I believe the quote outlines my outlook on women very well.

"You can either love OR understand women."

izzyinjurious · 2019-12-26T18:03:17+00:00

I had that anger phase about a year ago, it's safe to say now with further practice of TRP you become more stoic. I say that in the terms of that you shouldn't be worried what the girl is going to do next and it should never be unexpected. Accept them for what they are and continue with whatever situation they throw at you. That doesn't mean be ignorant when approaching or being around them. Love women for the creatures that they are and use the tools TRP has taught you and continue to find self amusement when you're around women. Don't forget to ALWAYS follow your mission/purpose first and if you focus on that you'll see women, money and everything else is a tool to that.

jojojijo333 · 2019-12-26T17:00:41+00:00

You are in denial of reality and don't want to aknowledge that your bluepill model of reality is flawed. Accept female nature. Dogs bark, do you hate dogs for that?

Zombiespire · 2019-12-26T18:39:06+00:00

You don't have to hate women, just understand them as human beings, and I mean human as the animal. Animals with desires, dreams, flaws, vices, and selfish tendencies. They are like us but female, so extremely different.

You don't have to hate women, but never let them control you and never let them hurt you ever again.

CuntMonteCristo · 2019-12-26T18:04:38+00:00

You can still have a family and kids. Just remember that she is as loyal as her options and that you must always be on a higher level and be needed. If you do not fulfill a need, there is no need for you. Make some cash and try 3rd world countries or South East Asia, there men are needed and that is why it works. If you bring her here, again, you might soon be not needed since she can get her visa and, depending on the country, divorce rape you and, therefore, you are not needed.

Charlie Chaplin had a kid when he was 70, so play the game right, you are a men, you know how it works now, so use your TRP knowledge to your advantage!

OrzhovPalatine · 2019-12-26T17:18:59+00:00

I wouldnt say it fucks up your outlook. You just look at them very indifferently. Theres alot of apathy.

At least for me, once I got out of rage phase I just felt indifference and apathy.

IXseed · 2019-12-26T19:13:46+00:00

I don't really hate women, I just understand that they're people. More selfish, of course. But as long as you're not afraid to be selfish yourself it doesn't really matter.

TRP just killed off the idea of the BP fantasy if finding the one and realising I have way more power than I thought I did.

We're all animals at the end of the day and we're gonna do what's hardwired into our brains to survive. To think anyone is gonna go against that feeling just to fuck your or date you is CRAZY

Mobrowncheeks · 2019-12-26T19:06:02+00:00

For me. After I finished being upset with women and how everything works. It helped me actually humanize women. For all their good and bad. I think I used to think of women as " those things over there, when they really are just us with their own entitlements and disfunctional behavior. Now I am able to tell. Why I'm even dealing with a woman, what I actually need from one, and how to vet them properly. So all my dealings with them are for the most part stress free

Gawernator · 2019-12-26T19:38:07+00:00

You’ll only be happy in a LTR if you find a high value, redpill trad type of girl I think. Took me years but feels amazing. Never been happier tbh.

Anarchistguy_2 · 2019-12-26T18:43:05+00:00

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SwoleyMoleyFrijoley · 2019-12-26T20:00:20+00:00

Relationships are an ongoing friendly negotiations between a man and woman for sex and resources/attention. That's how I look at relationships now. The more sex I can get for the fewest resources with the hottest women is a good deal. That's about as "Disney Love" as I get anymore. They're all hookers, some are just more upfront about it. Traditional women are few and far between, and even they are just raising the price of the pussy, not doing it out of some moral reasoning.

King-in-the-making · 2019-12-26T21:50:23+00:00

Happy holidays dude!

I think I was at your point up until a month ago, and before that, the distrust phase lasted about a year. Anger was definitely the hardest phase for me though, so maybe my distrust phase was longer than most. When we distrust something, we become much more reserved and calculating with our resources and ESPECIALLY our emotions (Value). I went out to the clubs earlier this month (still distrustful) and just let go so to speak.

I focused on having fun and providing the most value without asking for anything in return:

Imagine a homeless man coming up and asking you how the weather is doing... When he asks you for money, are you surprised? No, probably not, and you’ll probably feel a little salty they were trying to get on your good side before asking. That’s some fake ass shit, but do you question his nature? No.

Now imagine you’re a millionaire, or professional athlete. In the case of the millionaire, how easy is it for you to provide value without asking for anything? If you’re a professional athlete, how easily can you teach a complete beginner how to hold the ball, or move a certain way? Pretty easily, and without thinking about the “repercussions” afterwards. You’re just providing value because YOU WANT TO.

Anyways, it turned out to be one of the best nights out in recent months. BE AWARE of their nature, but play the game, have fun! Life’s too short.

Provide so much value for others, that the people you are entertaining would be fools not to reciprocate.

Coupled with TRP mentality, you won’t be a doormat anymore, and now know when people are using you. Now, you can walk away whenever you want.

perhapspuff · 2019-12-26T18:14:43+00:00

Truth is the more you know the more you disdain them. It's not their fault to a extent, but I can add, it's not a serial killers fault for murdering either. The blank slate is a myth, born to kill, born to be a cunt, it's all the same. To quote H.L. Mencken, bachelor's know more about women than married men, else they'd be married too.

mickenrorty · 2019-12-26T19:31:16+00:00

You don’t sound past the anger phase at all.

319Skew · 2019-12-26T20:45:46+00:00

I'm more honest with myself. I realize that my time is worth more to me than ejaculating inside a woman and won't put up with bullshit. I am also more stoic and am more aware of blue pill conditioning.

boy_named_su · 2019-12-26T22:55:40+00:00

Do shark documentaries fuck up your outlook on sharks?

maxofreddit · 2019-12-27T01:56:18+00:00

From the sounds, you're still young.

Given some more life experience you may find, like some of us over on the MRP side, that women can, indeed, add value to your life.

A good woman, at her best, will provide you with immediate, and often dramatic, feedback about the direction of your life. She will test your will and resolve. She'll also be a passionate physical partner.

Ideas and life philosophies from our past are often laughable, though often, under further reflection, we see that there may still be utility in some of the approaches. Maybe not as life guidance, but there are nuggets of truth everywhere.

Glad you're progressing, just give some thought that this is the kind of journey that you never arrive at a destination, you should be constantly refining.

PhaedrusHunt · 2019-12-27T04:25:55+00:00

We are all animals.

It's just seeing it like that.

Think of it this way what if you were a robot describing your story?

Or what if you were an anthropologist studying a tribe of monkeys and you saw the story of one monkey that was similar to yours, now you're somehow able to describe his thoughts right? Don't you think it would be silly for a monkey to decide He doesn't like girl monkeys now because he realizes they're monkeys?

Monkeys don't have the ability to think about themselves like humans do though. But even in humans it's an ability that must be developed. The first realization is there another way of saying you're taking the red pill.

This whole thing about sexual strategy is just really one small branch of what the red pill actually means and it's kind of unfortunate that the term has gotten so conflated with pickup artists because it's not only about that, That's just one of the fruits. It's about objectivity and rationality.

Let me tell you one of the angriest days of my life. It was Christmas when I found out Santa was not true. I wasn't upset that there wasn't a Santa so much as I was pissed off that I'd been lied to by my parents for so long simply because I would trust them.

Would it make sense to be angry at Santa? Of course not. Now it might make sense to be angry at my parents for a little while, But you've got to let that wear off and actually look around and figure out what the hell is going on and spend your energy that way. Don't spend your energy pining that things aren't the way you thought they were in your brain before you were rational. Wake up! When you're really wide awake do you feel angry? I don't.

Okay now I'm going to throw in another metaphor. I love jazz and one of my favorite books of all time is the autobiography of Miles Davis. He was also really into boxing and trained a lot. Anyway not sure if you know but Miles was a trumpet player, and there was a sax player by the name of ornette Coleman Who started to play the trumpet out of the blue. The critics loved it but Miles didn't, what he heard was bad trumpet playing. He compared it to boxing. He said when you first are learning to box you have to learn the moves correctly from someone that knows them that can teach you and then after you understand the fundamentals you can start to put them together and your own combinations and then develop your own style. He felt the same about trumpet or any specific instrument.

What's going on here is like that for you. You're here to learn and to grow and expand. There's no room for anger in that my friend.

And also I'm going to go out and tell you once you understand women's natures what it actually does is gives you the ability to bring out the best in them. My relationships are better than ever, sexual, romantic, friendship, all of it.

GrognardTheUnbathed · 2019-12-27T05:35:49+00:00

For me it started once I got cheated on for the first time. I didn’t really believe in love before I met her. She was the closest I ever got. I put her on a pedestal, and I trusted her to go to a college party without me (we’re in separate towns, her sorority was hosting so she had to be there...allegedly).

I ask how shit went the next day, she clammed up. Pried it out of her that she got drunk and fucked her ex. I calmly said I was done with her. She was practically begging me to yell at her, to scream, to hate her. “Why should I be mad at you? This is my fault; I shouldn’t have allowed you at that party. Of course you were gonna get drunk and cheat. You don’t know any better.”

Between her and my dad’s alcoholism, I was afraid to drink until I was 22. First time I got drunk I immediately texted her. She begged to get back with me, said I was the sweetest guy she ever been with blah blah. “Ruined a good thing with me, sweetie.”

Maybe one day a unicorn will disprove AWALT but until then, I try to never give them the power to hurt me. If they stomp on your heart, that’s our fault, fellas.

jaw8625 · 2019-12-26T19:02:38+00:00

I thought I was over the rage phase long before I actually was.....I think only now, after being red pill aware for 3-4 years am I actually in acceptance of the way things are. And I feel just like you do. My friends who have girlfriends....I pity them. When they come to me with girl issues it just seems so silly to me. When I find out that a girl I want to fuck has a boyfriend, I just view it as a slight annoyance...that ill probably just have to wait until it inevitably ends to fuck her. Worst of all are when I see ex plates of mine get boyfriends....I just look at those men as such losers.

I dont think I will ever have an exclusive girlfriend again, unless I find a girl who wants to have my children and whom I think is fit to do so. There is no other reason for it. That being said, I do value time with my women. I greatly enjoy their company. But its STILL a bruise to the ego when my turn is over....even 4 years and 200 women later. But its gotten a lot better

learnbyrepetition · 2019-12-26T21:51:28+00:00

I believe this is something that should be talked about more. I believe the red pill has a really big potential to make men “hate” women, but not because the theory is wrong or bad in any way, it’s because men struggle so much with the truth.

The way I see it, after a man understands the red pill theory, there are three ways this can go: one, they deny it (which is what happens in most of the cases). Two, they “accept” it but blame women for that. And three (and, in my opinion the most healthy one), they accept it and understand that what women do is just because that’s how their nature is and they are just doing what evolutionarily made sense at a certain time in human history in order to keep the species from extinction.

So in conclusion: yes, it might change the way you see women, but it shouldn’t be in a negative way, it should just help you understand them better and help you build better relationships with them.

ducaati · 2019-12-27T01:29:25+00:00

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fretty555 · 2019-12-27T02:04:45+00:00

Totally fucked me up to be honest. I’m really not a normal person anymore lol.

fretty555 · 2019-12-27T02:07:41+00:00

My best advice is never assume anything though. You know she’ll fuck you if you’re smooth enough no matter if she’s taken or married or whatever. But that’s on her not you. Just focus on yourself and have fun and constantly improve.

SpecialSpnk · 2019-12-27T02:48:35+00:00

Can relate 100%... I think it has been kind of detrimental to my spiritual and mental well being in all honesty.

strongsovereign · 2019-12-27T11:55:40+00:00

It made me hyper-observant. I was already quite observant before-hand, TRP just accentuated it. It's interesting, I would be having a walk in a busy mall or in a park, and I just look at couples walking and have a cheeky laugh inside.

In a sense, you're tapped into something which is scarce and the masses are not aware of. Out of a subtle cockiness, you feel on top of things, you have a conscious awareness of the inner workings and you can't help but have a good laugh.

I had quite the red-pill upbringing, but I didn't have that subdued post-red-pill disdain for women beforehand. I believe that is a by-product of unplugging and they sniff it out, sometimes. Although, there is a profound acceptance of their nature that comes with it, not subtle contempt alone.

And do not get it twisted, if all of us were red-pilled, then none of us would be. If there weren't beta males to contrast the alphas, how on earth are we to differentiate ourselves?

josh_e_pants · 2019-12-26T19:07:54+00:00

It honestly makes me show them more respect. If there are conditions to the way someone treats you and feels about you you respect them more.

EdvardMunch · 2019-12-27T00:10:20+00:00

There are phases and phases. Nothing says you wont revert back either.

I wouldnt look at them as selfish ignorant pigs but genetically wired for heavy demands.

You being a drooling wimpy beta is nice for her comforts but when a guy comes busting into the house looking to rape her and kill you and her child its pretty ignorant to keep just that guy around. And if an alpha he may be out fucking around.

Im not sure anyone fully knows other than women are frame fallers. They fall into frames. You may want a woman with a strong frame or values but much comes with that too. The best you can do is be the best you can be and hope youll find a good one because they are definitely rare if youre looking for a full package.

The_Turbinator · 2019-12-27T07:36:59+00:00

I went through all the phases.... then i got married!!

There is no way I would have gotten married if it weren't for the TRP.

I used to be way to beta for dating, never mind finding someone to marry. ANd now thanks to TRP, the relationship with my wife is AMAZING.

Title	Outlook on women
Author	Nastynatee
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Date	December 26, 2019 4:48 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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