Thoughts on "How to recognize and avoid red pill men".

exotictantra · 2016-03-18T12:07:19+00:00

if they misunderstand TRP then they are going to NOT avoid RP men.

So what is the problem? RP'ers need to STFU and focus on themselves. If a girl doesn't want a man who has his shit together, then good luck to her.

TopTRP · 2016-03-18T13:42:15+00:00

For those that are saying, they misinterpret TRP.

While that may be true, they cherry pick to fit their own narrative, every sub does that. It's just a sign of someone who is unable to think outside their own space.

A lot of the angry guys who make posts here, or the main sub, or mgtow, etc. actually might fit the description of the kind of man that women should avoid.

The thing is, you and I know, this kind of guy isn't what we refer to as redpill.

"That's not what redpill is."

Sound familiar?

It's the same thing that feminists say when whatever example you're giving doesn't fit their narrative. "That's not what feminism is."

I don't blame the people in that thread for having a different definition of TRP than I do.

They don't live in my world.

When I talk, people shut up and listen. They don't question and they don't argue.

This is with my co-workers, my friends, my family. Why would girls I'm fucking be any different? It's not. They are submissive and follow my lead.

That's what my life experience has taught me. This is what the people around me value in my personality. This is (part of) the reason why I'm successful in my career and in life.

You've got to remember, 90%+ of people in this world are morons, no other way to put it. They are unable to think critically and just roll with whatever hurts their brain the least.

They don't know what it's like to walk in the shoes of an alpha male and their brains are unable to step outside their own experience, so they will never be able to reconcile those things.

PlansAndPlates · 2016-03-18T16:14:22+00:00

Girls if your guy is working out and having fun you need to TREAD CAREFULLY.

That's really funny in a twisted way. Good luck to them.

Mention that you are thinking about making a drastic change to your hair (ie getting a pixie cut or dying it crazy colors) .

Actually pretty clever. I wouldn't disagree though, what do I care? If that's who you are that's cool, but I can't ignore the red flag.

ag_nuke · 2016-03-18T12:03:14+00:00

Anytime I come across "Red Pill" anything, it makes me want to gag.

Oh, we know. Because RP works.

Rasalom72 · 2016-03-18T13:35:53+00:00

So much hamster in that chart... "Women are programmed to be attracted to Alpha males with a good physique.--- There's probably some truth to this... "

OlBastard · 2016-03-18T13:36:08+00:00

I couldn't help but upvote their naivete. It's so childish that it's actually cute.

abdada · 2016-03-18T11:30:13+00:00

That's a pretty solid chart. Wonder how many tingles it created.

Also wonder if the average weight of that sub is double my own weight.

I don't care how anyone else interprets RP values verbally in a forum. I care how they respond to the values in behavior.

Cyralea · 2016-03-18T16:11:08+00:00

Their advice for women amounts to "Go for the opposite of things that trigger your sexual attraction"

Great advice. Let's see how effective that is.

UA_Hammer · 2016-03-18T12:29:05+00:00

Yes, if they say "what right does a woman have to question me? Get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich", you might have found one.

yeah, ok

Some days, I'm thankful that I'm overweight. Redpillers aren't generally interested in "fat chicks". Let me cry a river of tears over the fact that I don't have to deal with them. /s

these are the kind of women who read this stuff and react this way

2comment · 2016-03-18T13:32:48+00:00

Women love their lists don't they? Their magazines are filled with 10 ways to tell if he's a cheater or 99 sex positions to "blow his mind" and they fill their notebooks with it.

And for all that, they forget it in the moment, and if you give them tingles, they'll decide you're just great. And if they think you're creepy, they'll brand you Hitler, Stalin, Mao, TheRedPill, or whatever else floats their victim boat.

Despite all that, till the end of time, women will be crawling to Chad Thundercock, who will keep fucking and dumping them for the next in line. And then after being burnt a couple hundred times, the women will cry into their lists and try to snaggle the perfect guy, on paper it's Beta Bob, who makes them feel as alive as cereal box cardboard.

ChairBorneMGTOW · 2016-03-18T13:51:04+00:00

Ladies; You'll know you're in a conversation with a Red Pill man because all your girlfriends are so fucking jealous that he's even just paying attention to you. Your skinnyfat gay male bestie (who's really not gay, but really, he'll find the right woman someday - just not you, amirite?) will tell you that the Red Pill man is a jerk, he'll cock-block you or go huff in a corner and get passive aggressive around the Red Pill man.

Most importantly, you recognize a Red Pill man because when you're around him, your pussy is sopping wet and you can't stop rubbing your thighs together and touching your hair and face. You'll know he's a Red Pill man when you're getting fucked by another guy, you have to think about the Red Pill man in order to have an orgasm.

Quite easy signs really.

MeatCurtainRod · 2016-03-18T15:37:55+00:00

Well, I've always said, if you are drawing upon this kind of envy, you are doing something right.

DarkisKnight · 2016-03-18T18:15:25+00:00

First rule of fight club....

MattyAnon · 2016-03-19T01:51:06+00:00

They have no idea what they're talking about.

What they want and what they think they want are so different that they think they want to avoid it.

I've been into PUA and TRP for years, and I have only once.... once had a girl mention any of it to me. It was a crazy girl I was chatting to online, and everything I said she answered with "are you a PUA?" / "are you gonna seduce me?" ... I'm pretty sure she was into it.

I never use TRP terms in civilian life, but I apply the principles consistently and hard. I have different phrasing for everything.

AF/BB = Badboy / husband

Hypergamy = girls try to get the best they can... sometimes even when they're already married...

AWALT = yeah... there have been consistent themes with all the girls I've known and dated...

etc.

Avoid the lingo and they'll never catch on, because they wilfully misunderstand TRP. There are aspects they love (hot guys!), aspects they are wary of (um... stop lifting now... you're hot enough, you don't need to work out so much)... and aspects they hate of course because they benefit men rather than women (plating, not committing, dread game, etc).

Yup, I've definitely found discussing feminist ideas to be the best filter. Especially because anti-feminist men usually have some deep-seated misconceptions about it, so it becomes pretty obvious even if they try to fake it.

I wish all feminists would filter out all men using this tactic - would save us the misery of dating their sorry asses.

EseJandro · 2016-03-18T13:09:36+00:00

That's fine, if they're trying to avoid you, you avoid them as well.

flatox · 2016-03-18T15:06:11+00:00

Even though this type of guy doesn't make up the majority of men

That's right. We are just the 20%.

The-Ban-Hammer · 2016-03-18T16:56:20+00:00

[–]CACajun 29 points 13 hours ago – If they bitch about being a "nice guy"

Funny thing is, most guys who complain about being a nice guy were given that label by girls (or their mothers) as a nice let down.

"Oh, you're such a 'nice guy.' A girl would be lucky to have you."

They hear these words. Most of them are only saying it themselves because they've heard it so many times from others.

disgruntledearthling · 2016-03-18T12:04:37+00:00

Fuck, what a bunch of silly twats in that thread. The comment "getting commitment before sex" takes the cake.

thor_away92 · 2016-03-18T11:50:18+00:00

This post was great.

All of their advice all conflicted eachother at some point LOL

And I literally do none of those things they mentioned.

Goldfulgore · 2016-03-18T15:26:22+00:00

Who cares about reddit. I use TRP for my real life not this virtual jargon.

Miss u/icecreamqueen318 is obviously intrigued by TRP and she is out to get us. Judging by her username she is a fattie.

I love that whenever a woman hates something it means the opposite.

TRP_Werther · 2016-03-18T16:02:10+00:00

Some good gems in there summarising RP

" I think once they are "truly" red pill they are just confident men with enough self-respect not to neg you, insult you, etc. If they don't like you they won't waste their time talking to you."

"I think the ultimate goal of a rp man is to not need a woman to be happy, but still be able enjoy her company, be it by sleeping with a lot of women "

"People new to RP tend to be the chaotic ones that will walk up to you and outright insult you and casually await your response, then have a tantrum when you don't respond the way they expected to"

Ala the new guys

Then the poster summarized, a well trained RP man is calm and controlled, so will never get caught out - making him "less gross" than a new RP guy

Unbelievable haha

[deleted] · 2016-03-18T15:26:18+00:00

That chart is almost a check list, how nice of them, that should be in the side bar.

IVIaskerade · 2016-03-18T17:45:05+00:00

I don't care what other people think of TRP. I don't "put it out there" beyond my limited participation on this subreddit network.

People don't recognise "red pill" behaviour in real life because they see "red pill behaviour" as this caricature of a sexual predator, whereas it's mostly just being masculine and holding frame.

JimFury · 2016-03-18T17:55:04+00:00

I love it. They think they're identifying actual redpill alpha men but they're only identifying the angry guys and guys who might know about red pill but aren't there yet. I've honestly had two girls ask me about PUA/Red Pill. The first girl I gave her the low down about PUA this was many years ago. She was interested in it for sure and wanted me to try stuff on her. Another girl more recently asked me if I knew about the redpill. I said girl I am the redpill, that I'm all about self improvement and becoming the best me as possible. If it wasn't for this stuff I wouldn't of met her. Girls don't care they only care if you're just openly a huge asshole to them. Be fun and cocky and kind of a dick but don't be a straight up asshole or a rapist, which for some reason everyone thinks red pill guys are. I'll admit I won't LTR a chick if she is an annoying feminist but that's just my personal preference. I'll still plate or whatever I just ignore it. These people can be as wrong as they want it doesn't affect guys who are actually redpill.

Albacorewing · 2016-03-19T04:29:14+00:00

I looked at that thread. Those women erroneously assume that all men familiar with the "red pill" are pickup artists in bars, woman-haters, or trad-con types who want to force women back into housewifery.

A lot of the behavior they complain about is barfly behavior that revolves around booze; which I have seen personally for over forty years. It existed a hundred years ago. It's nothing new and has nothing to do with these red pill ideas.

They are female, so they simply cannot understand these ideas and how they go far to explain female, as well as traditionalist male, behavior.

The best thing about The Red Pill and MGTOW are strategies of risk avoidance for men. Resources now are harder to get for men; civil and criminal liability risk for men is far higher than I was a young man. The old social contract that existed between men and women is irrevocably broken. Understand that without the social contract, humans are basically the same as our ancestors in Africa 150,000 years ago were. Except that people then had a social contract between men/women and us "modern" people do not have one any more. Our society is moving in a bad direction.

So women exhibit a predatory nature that was always there but in the past was mitigated by custom and culture. The termination of the social contract means that men get no reward for chivalrous behavior; only risk, and are vulnerable to false accusations that ruin their lives as effectively as chopping off one hand & one foot.

You young guys need to protect yourselves. A woman who complains of red pill ideas does not have your best interest at heart.

Risk management needs to be part of your mental portfolio. Learn it.

BrunoOh · 2016-03-18T17:25:18+00:00

See http://imgur.com/a/XWTn9 as well.

AFPJ · 2016-03-18T18:30:26+00:00

They seem to have a severe misunderstanding of what TRP is.

There is no misunderstanding. Male and female sexual interests are at odds. Men want to fuck all the bitches & raise none of the children. Women want a stud's dick and a chump raising its spawn, unless they are hot enough to lock down the stud (unlikely). It's just nature, don't take it personally. Their view of TRP as misogynists isn't inaccurate either, a guy in the anger phase (overwhelming majority of TRP subscribers) is as close to that as you can get simply because of their sheer bitterness about having been fooled for their entire life - which is, in its own, entirely justified.

Nobody's wrong. We just want them to be quiet and fall in line with what we want and they want the same: its war.

The only issue I take with this is, much like this BPS video, Feminism is the downfall of civilization - nobody, not even women, enjoy the results of Feminism; it is a self-destructive ideology that spreads like a cancer until the host can no longer support it, at which point the civilization is invaded, men are killed off and women forcibly raped and become second class citizens. There is no good outcome for anyone & Muslims are doing this to "progressive" countries now.

Historically, there's never been a Feminine/Feminized/Feminist society rising to power - this is a simple fact and any "Feminist" claiming to dispute it is deceitful, mentally handicapped or just a shill. If you look at societies falling from grace & into chaos / abandon (those conquered notwithstanding), they are all - without a single exception - Feminist.

Feminism/Progressiveness is NOT a male or female problem. We'll all fall to ruin together because of it.

StopShadowbanningMe_ · 2016-03-18T11:59:58+00:00

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What is this?

redpeel · 2016-03-18T12:22:52+00:00

'A Comprehensive Guide to The Red Pill'

It's right there in the sidebar but they will still hamster because it involves easier things than use of reason and logic.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2q582c/a_comprehensive_guide_to_the_red_pill/ if you want to avoid a RP man...

mbillion · 2016-03-18T13:55:45+00:00

you gotta separate this shit out boys. It does not matter. If you truly trust in and believe the method there is no point in concerning yourself with a negative attack on your belief. This is the internet version of a shit test and you just took the bait

TheRedStoic · 2016-03-18T15:52:34+00:00

How do I use this praxeology?

I continue to be successful, I discard those who take without giving, I give to those who give back.

My life is amazing, and I'll continue to make it moreso.

About the thread though, there's nothing to worry about. The fact is, people make exceptions for those they like, "immediately seeing their faults in a less severe light, and hyping their benefits".

It doesn't matter what is said. What matters is how people react. In reality. In front of you, with you.

Regardless of whether there's an accurate list or not, actions speak louder than words, the only possible achievable thing by creating a list is to advance trp in response to new breeds of testing preformed by women on males. The 20% will remain and improve further, the 80% will continue floundering, and meanwhile women will still statistically fall on happiness measurements decade after decade.

Their preparation is a trivial truth, true yes, but hampering?

hah

it is of no consequence unless you make it to be so

94redstealth · 2016-03-18T16:24:27+00:00

Thanks for showing me this and ruining my lunch, gah, my head hurts from the stupidity

plenkton · 2016-03-18T18:43:31+00:00

Females do better when their deception is unknown- therefore, they like to avoid those who know female deception- and that is why they want to avoid RP males.

NiftyDolphin · 2016-03-18T18:56:52+00:00

I can reduce the list to one line: If you don't the way he acts, he's Red Pill.

vengefully_yours · 2016-03-18T21:25:50+00:00

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, now I can avoid rp men.

scarletspider3 · 2016-03-19T00:33:39+00:00

Isn't it funny how they knock us for brainstorming ideas for dating, but here they are doing the same.

Archwinger · 2016-03-19T03:29:44+00:00

The fact that women need to be told to watch out for certain behaviors implies that the behaviors themselves, absent the warning, wouldn't normally blow a guy's chance, and might even work.

prodigy2throw · 2016-03-19T03:42:12+00:00

Trust me. You do not want to bang the type of fatties that actually read that shit.

Samantha_Cruz · 2016-03-20T15:05:30+00:00

in any large group of people there are going to be outlying fringe elements and the opponents of those groups often tend to point to those fringe elements to suggest that they represent the entire group. I see this played out all the time with media coverage of conservative political events; I was in Downtown Atlanta for a Tea Party event with somewhere around 20,000 people a few years ago; the streets around the capital were filled with normal people that were basically all there protesting out of control government spending. Nothing about any of the presentations or the comments i heard suggested anything 'racist'. however; there WERE a few (maybe 5-6) people out on the edges of the crowd that no-one wanted to associate with waving around their ridiculous confederate flag with some rather ugly suggestions about Obama's heritage on their 'protest sign'. The "news" coverage that night had multiple shots of the freak sideshow and the coverage suggested that "the tea party is racist" etc and barely said anything about the actual content of the speeches or what the majority of the attendees were saying. the media coverage was DESIGNED to discredit the movement; the confederate flag waving side show was probably staged by people opposed to the tea party;

I have seen this same political trick played out over and over again at other events. Feminist are kicking mens rights groups butts in that game.

Its pretty naive to deny that there ARE some misogynists here; I certainly don't think it's the majority nor is it representative of the groups goals. I know I don't hate women but i DO hate what feminism is doing to men. some feminists have accused me of "internal misogyny" because i rather vocally oppose aspects of their agenda but that isn't misogyny. I love lots of women; I despise man hating feminists and I don't support the actions of feminists when those actions have a harmful effect on men. Feminists CLAIM to support "equality" but their actions are often totally contrary to those claims.

ALL GROUPS are going to have some extreme elements; They are trying to paint TRP based on the most extreme examples they can because they want to discredit the group;

We do the same thing here in our portrayal of the feminist movement; personally I think (or at least hope) that a significant percentage of the women that claim to be "feminist" are naive dupes that have been misled into believing the propaganda of their movement; Many of them seem to actually believe that the feminist movement is about "equality" and assume that opposition must be "against equality"; We often post videos of the more egregious examples of misandry within the feminist movement (and there are plenty to choose from). There are lots of lies and distortions thrown around by feminists; but i don't think the majority of people that claim to be 'feminists' actually hate men; I think most just don't pay much attention and are unaware of the harm that's being done in their name. If my suspicions are true then they CAN be educated; our opposition will continue to attempt to demonize any MRA movement and deny us the opportunity to educate others because they know it's a threat to their power. Education is the best weapon against ignorance and that is why they are so desperate to silence our voice.

RojoEscarlata · 2016-03-18T12:32:07+00:00

Their advice is pretty much making them only go for Betas, but nothing send a woman faster to an Alphas bed than spending time with Betas

stealthcreeper · 2016-03-18T15:14:47+00:00

they only avoid RP men if they know they read TRP

and

If they act like they're more important than you. If they put down your suggestions or opinions. If they insult your hobbies and interests. If they compliment, but also slightly insult you.

if you did all these, they would be attracted

when they are away of the hivemind, the don't give a shit, emotions rule the world

rollhax · 2016-03-18T18:44:46+00:00

Very interesting read. Such cognitive dissonance.

One commenter states that the girl should proclaim wanting to cut her hair short, and judge the man's reaction to discern whether he's RP or not.

What they all fail to realize is that any RP man would just shrug, and probably next her without a word (maybe after fucking her regardless of hair choice, depends on risk, but dat red flag tho), having more important man shit to concern himself with.

Title	Thoughts on "How to recognize and avoid red pill men".
Author	xeroblaze0
Upvotes	27
Comments	87
Date	March 18, 2016 10:30 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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