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[–]Turlast 52 points53 points54 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't. The minute I stopped caring was the best thing ever. If you're overly obsessed with height, it'll definitely fuck with you. This isn't to say that short guys aren't at a disadvantage compared to their taller counterparts, but it doesn't matter.
Sometimes I'll wonder if approaching a taller girl is a good idea, but most of them won't care.
[–]Uesugi_Kenshin 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you're not gonna grow anymore then fuck it, u can't control that. Learn to succeed despite it, by not letting the height control you.
[–]Woujo 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is THE right answer. Girls care about a lot of things, height being one of them. But if you don't have those things, it won't do you any good to obsess about them. Just do you.
[–]questionthis 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Went on a date with a tall girl last weekend. I consider myself average at 5'10", and she was as tall as me if not an inch or so taller than me. It didn't affect anything. I asked her post-coitus how she deals with guys who are shorter than her, she said she's so tall that it's hard to find guys who are her height so she doesn't care about height anymore.
She told me she once went out with a guy who was 5'5" and felt weird about it, but the deal breaker was the fact that he didn't pay for the date.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You dont believe this, do you? It's a pretty fucking big deal to most women
[–]Turlast 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you not read the post? I said shorter guys are at a disadvantage, but that doesn't mean some short guy needs to go around thinking about it 24/7. A lot of things are a big deal to women, so that goes without saying.
You either work on your shortcomings or you don't. Nothing more to it.
[–]Messisfoot 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
The moment you let something, that you have no control over, influence your game, you've lost.
BTW, what is short? Depending on the country/city I'm in, I'm either tall, average, or short.
[–]Snazzy_Serval 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
In the United States you're short if you are shorter than 5'7. That's probably the same for other Caucasian countries.
[–]Messisfoot 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Not in certain parts of the states and nordic countries. Besides the point, anyways. Any woman who qualifies her men by height is not worth your time.
[–]faxfinn 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I think you are concidered short before the 5"7 mark in Nordic countries... Im 180cm (seems to be around 5"10 or 5"11, different charts say different things), and I'm not a tall guy compared to most guys around here in Norway.
[–]Messisfoot 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
holy shit, ya'll are still vikings. with hot, hot, beautiful viking women.
[–]faxfinn 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We got the vikings to thank for the hot women at least, you don't bring back the 1-5/10's when raping, kidnapping and pillaging
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You dont feel tall because you're average lol
[–]faxfinn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't get me wrong, I don't feel bad at all. Im pretty much average height for males in the country I live in, my point was just that 5'7 is considered short in nordic countries.
[–]appletree112 10 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
As someone who is 5'7'', I was average height back home. In the US, I never see anyone my height. I would say if you are below 5'10'', you are short.
[–]Snazzy_Serval 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Hah, if a 5'10 guy is short, what does that make you? A midget?
In the US average height is 5'10.
I wouldn't start calling somebody short until they are three inches shorter than average. That's when it starts to be really noticeable.
[–]StdSam 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Damn you must not really like /u/appletree112
[–]Snazzy_Serval 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've got nothing against him.
He's the one who said that somebody is "short" if they're 5'10. So how would he describe somebody that is three inches shorter than "short?"
[–]StdSam 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He said if you're below 5"10' you're short, not if you're 5"10' you're short. So obviously he considers himself short since he's 5"7'.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol you're delusional
[–]VinsTheSpaceDriver 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm 5'5. I can tell from my experience that for some girls high does matter and for other it does not matter at all. It really depends on the girl and the only way to figure it out is by trying anyway. Most of my exes were taller than me so at the end of the day being short is not a big deal.
[–]scratchyNutz 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
5'2" here. One of my exes was 5'11", sack time was a blast. I encourage more short men to go for tall women, they're lovely.
[–]totallyjoking 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How did you land that? Are you ridiculously good looking like Derek Zoolander? I wouldn't have the confidence to even approach a girl that tall, so good for you.
[–]scratchyNutz 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you ridiculously good looking like Derek Zoolander?
Nope, just not afraid of tall women, and lots of tall women feel crap about being tall. Approach them, they'll appreciate it.
[–]KidCasey 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've found the ones who don't care end up being cooler people anyway.
[–]Lokko24 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can confirm. Dates a 6'1 girl it was great and she could care less about height because I let not effect me. She fed off my indifference about it.
[–]zomgitsduke 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Things about women that make them just as insecure as you do about height:
Weight
Hair color
Hair style
Small blemishes on their skin
Their height
Shoe size
Big or little butt
Big or small breasts
If some of these things don't matter to you, there exist women where height won't matter to them.
Stop caring. I have a receding hairline, I'm average height, I stutter, I dont dress fashionably, and I don't have a 6-figure salary. Doesn't stop me from living my life and meeting people. Rejection is done by people not worth your time.
[–]ShortyThrowaway87 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IDk if this would be of interest to anyone, but I wrote a post on r/short about how I personally have been very successful with the opposite sex.
You can see it here https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/4qet26/hello_alllong_time_lurker_i_want_to_share_with/
[–]Speedz007 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't matter. And that holds 9 times out of 10 even when the girl explicitly states that she doesn't date shorter guys.
But if it matters to you, personally, then nobody can help you.
[–]famineofcrows 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
is it different online? Like on tinder, most girls say ''6ft + guys only''. I match with a girl, and one of the first things she asks is my height. If I say anything below 6ft, I get unmatched. I've tried answering in playful ways and stuff, but for some girls it really seems to be a deal breaker.
I'm pretty short, and personally, I just feel more comfortable approaching really short girls
[–]zambazzar 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely. Rejection is just a way of weeding out those who won't make you happy anyway. Thing about tinder is that it is really attraction at first sight.
I'm 176, average in Singapore but over in the UK or the States, or countries with more western ladies who are taller than me especially when they wear heels, it's up to how you present yourself with confidence and everything. I just tried harder and got laid with an 8/10 184cm tall lady who came from Berkley University, so nothings impossible really.
Try day game if you want better chances of taller ladies. Saying that you're below 180 is harder in real life than behind the safety net that being on tinder gives them. Personal advice based on experience
If a girl asks you how tall you are, ask her how big her boobs are, or how much she weighs.
Odds are you'll still get unmatched but you'll force her to see how she's using a double standard.
[–]famineofcrows 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
lol, i saw a convo the other day where straight away the girl wrote
''How tall are you?''
The guy replied
''6ft 2. How much do you weigh?''
She replied:
''Are you fucking kidding me?!!'' (and then 'unmatched' him within a few mins before he could reply, lol)
[–]Snazzy_Serval 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hah, some women are just stupid.
Too bad she didn't stick around for a reply. I would have loved to send her something like, "No answer huh. Well guess that means you're too fat for me."
[–]famineofcrows 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. I was annoyed that he didn't get to reply to her, too! Would have been great to see her get a dose of 'real talk'! The hypocrisy!! The entitlement! Grrrrrrr......
[–]newtothelyte 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 5'7, it's never really been an issue with me. Even if you get a girl who is, say, 3" taller than you it's not really that big of a difference.
[–]OtterAutisticBadger 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
just approach short girls if you dont want the big ones. some girls are just huge, but that doesn't mean you can't try. most short guys i know have a really strong build, and they always had girls. Just ask out that cute petite girl and you'll see she responds nicely to it if you're a nice, cunning, confident dude
[–]Borjatone 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Being short, my dick looks bigger in proportion to my body ;)
[–]ix_ixi_xi 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aw Fuxk yea! bro fist
[–]DaygameCoach 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a self-limiting belief -- If you believe it's a problem, it is. Read the sidebar help on shit tests since you will get them.
[–]Barkingtaco 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't affect my game and it shouldn't affect yours. If you're done growing in height doesn't mean your done growing as a person. Strive to be the best version of yourself, "private victories precede public victories." Don't put so much thought into things that you have no control. Focus on things you can control and if females see that you are on a successful path, they usually like to tag along.
[–]iamthesage 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This weekend i slept with a chick taller than me , and I picked her up on the train on my morning commute.
Am I tall? No, average height 5'6". Am I well built? No, average build. Six pack? no, a small beer belly.
Point is nothing matters. I saw her, made eye contact and talked to her. My height was never an issue.
Are there girls who wouldn't want to date guys my height. Yes there are plenty. But I don't want them.
Dont worry about your height. Work on your game . Approach and talk to girls.
[–]famineofcrows 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
how did you open her?
[–]iamthesage 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Smile and eye contact. Then I went and said hi. There was mutual attraction.
[–]notoriousTPG 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is a fetish for everything
[–]GreeceZeus 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My first girlfriend was four years older and one head taller - and I didn't even start with pick up!
[–]Silly_Randy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm like 5'5...maybe less. When you have real confidence, not the kind where you are putting on a mask. I mean real, inner confidence and you're being flirty and fun. The chick doesn't even realise that shes looking down at you. All shes thinking is man this guy is so fun and before you know it, shes attracted to you.
Height isn't as much of an issue as it is in our minds. If a chick rejects you or doesn't respond to your game, don't automatically blame your lack of height. Your height is done. It's set in stone. But your game and presentation can always be improved.
Have fun man
you srs?
Great discussion here guys. A good post to help shed some insight on an area that many of us face. Wish this community had more of these in every aspect of seduction. Keep it up gents!
[–]marsm 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just make the most out of yourself, I suggest starting here: /r/shortfashion
This doesn't even have anything to do with game, it will simply make you look better for everyone around you, including yourself. That should raise your confidence already by some degree just like working out does.
Before the downvotes come raining down. This was one of my faults for many years, I was wearing clothes that made me look even shorter than I already was because I never put any kind of effort towards finding stuff that fits REALLY well (which is hard when you're short).
[–]SexlessNights 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't consider myself short but I've definitely talked to taller girls. Not a big deal.
Being short is one of the things thats an absolute dealbreaker for some, no matter how much "Game" you have
[–]TheJasonSensation -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
It sucks. This is how most all females feel about short guys: http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/07/its-time-we-sent-all-short-men-to-the-gas-chambers/
[–]poonGopher6969 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
That's just satire in very poor taste
[–]TheJasonSensation -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Everything Anne Gus puts out is real.
[–]poonGopher6969 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Her name is freaking Anne Gus, that's Angus. As in Angus steak. No way people actually like her exist.
Edit: http://gawker.com/confessions-of-thought-catalogs-biggest-troll-1641623919
[–]TheJasonSensation 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aware. She did it to troll the BB.com Misc. They're all about the Angus, and they constantly put down the short guys to rustle them hahaha. She has an account called Aryan of Valhalla or something.
[–]2hands10fingers 10 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Nope. http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/thought-catalog-mistakenly-publishes-feminist-essay-article-1.1725651
[–]TheJasonSensation 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's real bro. Don't listen to the haters.
[–]2hands10fingers 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Did you even read the article?
Yeah bro, why do you think it is fake?
[–]ZippityD 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll humbly suggest you not take a single word written there as even containing a grain of truth. It's an open blog. Please check the other articles written by that author. She's batshit crazy. Her opinion isn't worth a fart in the breeze.
We've got stories by her on the moon landing being faked because patriarchy, on how she would fuck Hitler and is upset her friend would not, on banning men from the military, on Australia being evil, on women being useless after 30, etc.
One example, not even her worst:
I was raped last week. I was drinking a Frappie and feeling empowered at a local café here in Boston when I noticed this cute new barista handling some beans. He had like, soooo many tattoos and looked like a really bad boy criminal #sohawt lol. I caught him looking at me and we totally had a moment. It totally started tingling down in the ole’ Musky Mines—I needed a pickaxin’. So I made my way over to the counter and like really coyly asked if I could talk to him in the backroom about a new kind of bean—lol. He looked totally confused but was all like “sure” and he let me come through to the back. As soon as he’d closed the door, I bent over, hiked up my skirt and readied myself for impact, but then, to my, like, total surprise I didn’t feel anything enter. Instead, the dude started shouting “What the hell do you think you’re doing? This is extremely inappropriate, get the hell out of here before I call the cops!” Thinking he was joking, I grabbed his crotch, but he jolted and pushed me away, screaming, “Get out, NOW!” Humiliated and shocked that a person could do such a thing I walked back out, grabbed my stuff, and went home.
He made me feel so dirty—how dare he deny me sex? I was a horny woman who really wanted to have sex and this douche just refuses to fuck me? Wow. Just. Wow. Who does he think he is? How do you think that makes me feel? That’s right, violated. He’s not a real man.
You can’t possibly understand how hard it was. Here I was, wanting to have sex, and the guy I wanted to have sex with was denying me what I wanted. It was so bizarre, I’d never experienced anything like it. I couldn’t believe it, I had shown such courage by taking sexual initiative only to be turned down? DISEMPOWERING!! Denying me sex was his way of trying to regain patriarchal power over me, he was no doubt intimidated by a strong woman like myself, saying no was a desperate attempt to try to show that he was the boss. That’s as much a Patriarchal power move as rape—in fact, it is rape. Denying a woman sexual fulfillment is rape. He didn’t force me to have sex with him, but he forced me not to have sex with him when I really wanted to—this is obviously just as bad.
NO MEANS NO UNLESS YOU’RE A MAN; THEN YOU ARE DISEMPOWERING ME WHEN I WANT SEX.
I have obviously contacted the police and I will make sure that that fucking scumbag spends a good part of the rest of his life rotting behind bars for violating me like that, even if I have to tweak the story a little to account for our fucked-up legal system. No one will believe hisside of the story LOL.
I had to go to therapy and everything cuz I’m really traumatized. I’m going to have to live with this for the rest of my life.
Fellow feminists, it’s time to start talking about this side of the rape coin too before more fall victims to “rejection rape.” This is Anne Gus, journalism incarcerate, over and out.
[–]TheJasonSensation 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's all true.
Satire
[–]Snazzy_Serval -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Without a doubt short men are at a disadvantage with women.
Going just by your looks, almost all women see you the same way you would see a 200 lb woman. Dating is much harder when a woman is not physically attracted to you.
Having good game can change a woman's perception of you and overcome her initial non-attraction.
As a point of reference I'm 34 years old and 5'5. Average looks, fittish body and I've had only one relationship which only lasted six months. At this point I just don't have the game and confidence to make up for my height.
Here's an article I like on short guy game.
Dating as a Short Guy: What to Know and Do
Written by an actual short guy, not some dude who is 5'9 and thinks he's short.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Confidence and game cant make up for missing attraction, get that in your heqd
[–]Snazzy_Serval 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So then you're saying that there is no hope for short men?
I don't think so.. Only with women that don't really care, a fading small minority
[–]Engineer1337 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is 5'7 too short?
Yes
[+]Inerthal -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm not tall being 5'9 but honestly never had any trouble seducing. That doesn't mean I wasn't rejected and faded on because of my height, pretty sure I have, but that's their problem. Not mine. In fact my longest relationship was with a 6'0 girl.
[–]Snazzy_Serval 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're average height.
Short is 5'7 and under.
At 5'5 my experiences with women are very different than yours.
[–]Inerthal 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah yes but I reckon it depends on where you live. I'm in Paris and here for some reason most attractive women are my height or taller and wear heels and prefer taller men.
[–]Snazzy_Serval 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are the women who are your height or taller wearing heels? Average height for a woman is ~5'5 without heels. You also say attractive women and my be focusing on the taller women.
Just because women prefer tall men doesn't mean that you are short.
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