Seduction is a set of tools. A PUA is a carpenter with a different tool box. Seddit used to be a discussion about the best ways to use these tools. People would share ideas, others would test them and report back what worked. Others provided ideas how to improve different tools. Just like carpenters building better and better houses, PUAs were improving their tool boxes to pick up hotter and hotter women. The end was the goal.
This has all changed. Lately, white knights and manboobs have flooded Seddit and imposed their own set of morals on to our tools. They have shamed us for our language, and our techniques. It has grown so bad people are adding disclaimers to their posts asking not to be judged harshly.
A hammer is neither good nor bad. A screwdriver can be used for good or evil. A carpenter's tools have no inherent moral value. A saw can be used to build a home or kill a man, this does not make the saw an evil thing.
Our tools are no different!
Please stop imposing your own moral code on to others. You might not like the tools discussed here. You might be offended. If this is the case please leave.
To avoid shaming techniques the advice on Seddit has changed to different forms of "be all you can be," or worse, "be yourself." The way to get better at picking up women, it is said, is to pick up women. This advice is akin to telling an apprentice carpenter to, "go build that house, then build another one, and so on until you can build good houses." You can see this is bad advice if the apprentice doesn't know how to swing a hammer or read plans.
Let's go back to discussing hammers, and drills, and saws, so we can all build amazing houses.
[–][deleted] 66 points67 points68 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[+]mathrix -10 points-9 points-8 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]JasonUncensored 17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 7 points8 points9 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]rickyseddit 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]puaAthens 52 points53 points54 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 5 points6 points7 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]puaAthens 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]kabrandon 9 points10 points11 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]takingthe_ 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]kabrandon 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ImmatureAmateur 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]DEVi4TION 8 points9 points10 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]nuclear_cheese 1 point2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]DEVi4TION 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]nuclear_cheese 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]copypastaandmeatball 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Vok250 8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]SlappaDaBayssMon 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]PyouA 11 points12 points13 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]jimmyayo 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]chikinpickle 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]1vibe 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 5 points6 points7 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 3 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA -5 points-4 points-3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA -2 points-1 points0 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA -2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheIslander829 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]survivorboi 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]lenut 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]5hawnking5 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]UnapologeticalyAlive 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (8 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (7 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (6 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]cigs_n_coffee 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]YippyKayYay 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]BabyPuncher34 -2 points-1 points0 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ofcrazed -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]leegirlchange -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]zxczxc19 -4 points-3 points-2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]DEATH_GRAPE -2 points-1 points0 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]-bc- 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ImJustAMan 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+]hobodick -27 points-26 points-25 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]redpillschool 45 points46 points47 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[+]hobodick -11 points-10 points-9 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]redpillschool 16 points17 points18 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]hobodick 11 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]redpillschool 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]hobodick 10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+]quintin3265 -15 points-14 points-13 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]quintin3265 -5 points-4 points-3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]dcdcd101 -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]quintin3265 -1 points0 points1 point (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]quintin3265 -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Joy_Ride25 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Lead ModeratorThrowawayPUA 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link