Two problems; 1) I'm not DTF... Really. 2) I'm ONS worthy but not BF material apparently.

puaCurveBall · 2013-08-20T18:48:22+00:00

I think you have it wrong... it is your lack of sexuality that turns girls off from dating you.

If a girl is giving you the green light and you obviously don't want it, then why would she hang out with you? so she can waste a night with a guy who obviously doesn't want it?

Delightful_White · 2013-08-20T18:52:22+00:00

I don't understand. Why can't you have sex with a girl the first night you meet her and still continue the relationship afterwards?

I'll give it to you straight, dude. You show your cards too early, girls don't like that. It's good to be honest with women, but most girls want to have some fun with you before you start getting all "date-y" on them.

Why not give in to sex once in a while, and see where that takes you? Maybe nowhere, or maybe a serious relationship. Don't know why you think you can't date a girl you fucked for fun one night.

boss413 · 2013-08-20T19:00:55+00:00

The way you're describing it sounds like she was interpreting your attempt to push for a date as a blowoff of her advance. Saying you want to steer a conversation toward "serious," might make you sound disinterested in her. When you start receiving indicators of interest, you eventually have to return them, or else she will feel like she's hitting her head against a wall, just like you are by wanting a "date" and being rebuffed.

I'm interested in hearing what your pushes for a "date" or "serious conversation" sound like. When you've passed the opener phase and she's escalating the interaction, what exactly are you objecting to? What is making you uncomfortable?

Kuedo · 2013-08-20T19:30:59+00:00

These girls want to have some fun with you. Let go of the reins dude, live in these moments, you never know what may come from them.

sondemagnus · 2013-08-20T20:27:19+00:00

Downvote train coming through: have you had your t levels checked?

Hadephobiac · 2013-08-20T21:12:37+00:00

Go watch the movie yes man by Jim Carey.

rmbarnes · 2013-08-20T22:18:44+00:00

Try fucking them really well and then seeing if they want a relationship.

Wanting to jump straight into a relationship can be seen as needy by many people. When girls start to act like they want to go long term with me on the second date before I've even fucked them (this is happening with a girl at the moment), I think it's a bit odd. They don't know me yet so how can they already want me as a long term partner? It also makes me think they'll be clingy. The girls you meet are probably thinking the same.

centurijon · 2013-08-20T19:27:54+00:00

Get yourself some sex and turn those ONSs into relationships. Works best if you're good in bed.

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Smiles_27 · 2013-08-21T01:25:47+00:00

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johannthegoatman · 2013-08-20T21:49:33+00:00

I know what you mean by not being that turned on by a girl you don't really know. You could think of it as getting to know her intimately before you invest emotionally, as opposed to the other way around. Or just fool around a bit, but leave them wanting more. Just make sure you peace out on a high note.

4forpengs · 2013-08-21T01:24:40+00:00

You have no idea how happy I am that you posted this. I've been wondering about this for the past year (when all of a sudden my attractive genes got off their lazy asses). I just could not put my finger on exactly what it was.

Personally, I'm not a ONS guy. I actually am turned off by that kind of stuff 90% of the time. The majority of the girls who want one are almost insulted that I don't want one with them, but I guess that helps me ID who has a shit personality.

But again, thanks for posting this question, I know what i'm going to be doing the remainder of the night.

slcjosh · 2013-08-21T03:01:07+00:00

Fuck her silly. If you give em the D better than anyone shell be inclined to come back. But your lack of "passion" might be the problem. Despite being overweight like you mentioned, you are doing something right. Or you're just hanging out with über sluts :-)

scenny · 2013-08-21T03:27:15+00:00

You said you're socially awkward - are you only socially awkward until you get to know someone better? Aka, are you just shy? A lot of people use socially awkward like others use ADD. And is it just stemming from a lack of confidence, perhaps?

puntingbaxter · 2013-08-20T18:58:13+00:00

Try a different demo?

Maybe the girls you are meeting are only ONS kind of girls?

major_tom38 · 2013-08-20T19:22:48+00:00

Post pics of these 'absolutely gorgeous' women, most men have low standards and PUA's tend to overrate the girls they pull. You can blur out the eyes or whatever, just let me see that bone structure.

Title	Two problems; 1) I'm not DTF... Really. 2) I'm ONS worthy but not BF material apparently.
Author	Smiles_27
Upvotes	31
Comments	93
Date	August 20, 2013 6:29 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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