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[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
1 hour old account, who are you really?
[–]ERockEfreedom0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A person new to the internet could sense this stuff right away.
[–]CisWhiteMaelstrom 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I've known redpillers/PUA in real life and they're not the Casanovas with women they see themselves as
I'm calling bullshit. How'd you recognize them? Virtually all of them guard their RP membership secret with their lives.
[–]Pointless_Endeavors15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
Virtually all of them guard their RP membership secret with their lives.
Any BPer claiming to have met a RPer in real life is lying.
/r/TheRedPill only has 119,000 subscribers. A sizable portion live outside the U.S. Nearly everyone one of them, like you say, guard their membership status.
Even if every member lived in major metropolitan cities across the U.S, what are the chances they know and regularly interact with a BPer, a much smaller and less known sub, and that that BP also post here in PPD, a even smaller and less known sub.
Lets not even get into the fact that TBP has very ignorant view of what TRP is. One can only conclude that they are either lying or assume a guy they know who is being an asshole and cheats on his girlfriend is a RPer.
[–]HappilySingleWoman 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe he just meant that he knows people who use RP techniques . There are people who don't know about TRP , but still use RP tactics.
[–]GynaTynglezMakelovenotwar-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I know a terper in real life. He eventually told me about it because I asked him about some err... Unusual turns of phrase. I suspect there are more red pill men in the Bay Area than other areas.
[–]Pointless_Endeavors5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
Let's do some quick math.
/r/TheRedPill has 119,000 subscribers
A sizable portion live outside the U.S or not in major cities. Let's say one third total.
That leaves is with 79,334 people.
/r/TheBluePill has 22,000 members.
/r/PurplePillDebate has 5,500 members. And I doubt even half are active, as we see the same people post and comment. Even extremely popular comments from either side very rarely breaks three digits. Let's also assume half of these members are either RP or BP. This means only 2,700 are BP.
The Bay Area has a population of 2,000,000 people.
The U.S population is a little over 300,000,000 people. 1% of that is 3,000,000. One million more then 2,000,000 if you weren't following.
Do you truly and honestly want me to believe that you randomly came across the one RPer of 79,000 who possible lives in major cities and was talking about relationships/dating/gender/whathaveyou in your vicinity and ADMITTED to the fact that he was a redpiller.
Do you truly and honestly want me to believe that the one or two RPers possibly living or not living in the Bay Area admitted to the fact that he was a RP to one of 2,700 BP people in the world subscribed to this sub?
Do you truly and honestly want me to believe that that one person on a Saturday night - came to this subreddit - saw this thread - saw my comment - and replied to it within one hour?
How many other people must he have told he was a Redpiller before he came across you? The only conclusion I can come up with is either you are lying, or should play the lottery.
[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Birthday problem. The odds are not 80000*5000 it's 800005000.
But the guy doesn't even have to be a rper, many people who just found it will do some reading, field testing and talk about trp before swallowing or the acceptance stage so these guys are a very bad representation of trp.
[–]GynaTynglezMakelovenotwar1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Believe whatever you will, but it's the truth.
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[–]Pointless_Endeavors2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
You really can't quantify how many people are redpillers here because there are probably lots who just check theredpill and returnofkings but don't have a reddit account.
Let's assume that is true. That there is five...no, TEN times the number of RPers as there are subscribers. That make 1.9 million men.
That still leaves us with 2,700 BPers in this sub. One of those 2,700 BPers came to this sub, saw this little thread, and saw my post at 1 am on a Saturday night and replied to it withing 38 minutes to be exact. Sorry if I find that a little hard to believe.
Why can't you accept that theredpill is filled with bitter, unattractive men and not every one of your ilk is a master alpha seducer?
Like I've said before, half of all BPers are only here to troll. Just like the guy who saw my comment and replied with a lie to troll.
Considering you're a troll, let me guess what you're reply will be. "Why was a RP on reddit at 1 am on a Saturday night instead of sleeping/raping girls with insecurity and daddy issues?" The mundane answer is work.
[–]disposable_pants0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TRP is not PUA.
[–]MeterusUnicorn Cuck Pill Pharmacist-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I dunno, maybe BP is stalking RP.
[–]HappilySingleWoman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's not that hard to recognize their tactics if you are aware. I basically guessed that my boyfriend is a PUA and it turned out I was right .
[–]CisWhiteMaelstrom 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You told me his OKC name was alpha male. He made it obvious.
Good point. :P Still someone who is not aware would not have guessed it .
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link
Jesus, manlets have it rough. I truly sympathize but I can't empathize.
I got some grinding action at the first freshman parties in college, simply because I was not fat and tall (6'1"). Couldn't really bring them to the dorm cuz I still pedestalized the pussy and beta'd out (once had a girl in my room, was nervous, and started talking about courses FML).
Read up on TRP, abundance mentality, outcome independence, PUA flirting tips, and boom, fixed shit up quick. Ever since then, my only priority has been to keep increasing my SMV. All that shit bloopers say RPers neglect - being genuinely interested in a woman, connecting, true love, that shit's easy to do. But it can come later. You need to selfishly build yourself up now, if you want any kind of satisfaction with your life later.
I don't think TRP, as in the principles and theories, is misguided. Its execution can vary between the users and their SMP handicaps they have to work with.
[–]ProtoPillRed Before Red12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are the first person on this site to ever correctly use these two terms in a sentence. Every time someone uses these wrong a kitten dies. The kittens relish in the splendor of your mercy.
[–]taiboworksrational idealism > toxic egoism-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
All that shit bloopers say RPers neglect - being genuinely interested in a woman, connecting, true love, that shit's easy to do.
not being aspie is easy? explain.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm not aspie, so I can't empathize.
Trying to explain would be solipsistic of me.
[–]taiboworksrational idealism > toxic egoism-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
so since you were young you intuitively could sense whether people liked you or not? were happy or sad? what made them tick? if so, why did you need red pill?
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't know how far young, but
could sense whether people liked you or not
Definitely. I could tell if it was genuine as well.
were happy or sad
Yeah, I'd say so. "Smile doesn't reach the eyes" and subtleties like that.
what made them tick
You mean angry? Yeah, by trial and error. If I made them angry once, I'd keep that in mind.
why did you need red pill?
Mostly for the effective methods for building sexual attraction, and "alpha" conversations as opposed to the friendly and disarming type I was used to. I innately understood the idea of SMV, but having sexual strategies mapped out made it clearer.
[–]taiboworksrational idealism > toxic egoism-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
but if you really are able to read people than you would understand attraction, would you not? do you agree or disagree that a lot of red pillers are on the aspie spectrum?
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To me, understanding attraction and creating attraction (as the type of man I am and for the type of woman I'm pursuing) are two different things. I could definitely tell which girls were hot and bothered by which guys. I just had to work on things like proper flirting, kino, tone of voice, convo topics, etc instead of being myself™.
I can't answer that accurately, since I only browse top posts of the week and there are RPers saying neckbeardy shit like "council of captains".
TRP will certainly help aspies improve their lives and success with women, so I can see it's appeal to them.
[–]LinaIG-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
Nah. You not being fat already makes you part of the top in the western world, and your height makes you as good-looking as a male model. You didn't get laid because the women you were trying to get laid with were not into you.
Maybe your eyes colour do not match her favorite colour. maybe she likes tall men with beards. Who knows. Men who pedestalized women get laid a lot if they are good-looking. John Keats made his chick to be some goddess and the dude was very attractive.
Same goes for Lord Byron and his ''She walks in Beauty like the Night.'' You think women were rejecting Lord Byron because he put women on a pedestal?
Women don't reject men who have ''no women mentality.'' They reject men because those men are not tall, or handsome, or rich.
OP, you need to grow as a man. That is to say. You took the first space. You are going to spend the rest of your life alone. You won't get laid at all. Many men are going to suffer the same fate. Now you just need to let go of the bitterness and frustration and you can live a very happy life.
[–]disposable_pants4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
your height makes you as good-looking as a male model
Standing 6'1" doesn't make you a male model.
[–]LinaIG-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, but it makes you taller than most men. And I've seen some(not saying the guy I was talking to is like that) very ugly guys who were already bald in their early 20s, with no money and no job, land some very beautiful women who were so much attracted to these guys.
All they had going for them? Their height. its more than enough. Short men have to make it up with exteme good-looks or $$$.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Now this is some next level male hamstering.
very ugly guys who were already bald in their early 20s, with no money and no job, land some very beautiful women who were so much attracted to these guys.
Unless they some gaijins in China, I'm calling bullshit. Especially with the
very beautiful women
part.
[–]LinaIG1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What hamstering? Hamstering is what the red pillers say.
''damn, what women want is for men to be sexually aggressive and to go get what they want.''
''Women are attracted to dark triad personalities, never mind that the guy who has that dark triad personality is sawyer from Lost and he looks like a son of Zeus.''
I do not hamster. i am realistic. When I see all of these guys trying to chat up women I step back(never was I a cock-block) and I just smile because I know anytime soon some 10/10 guy is going to show up and scoop the woman away with his perfect hair, teeth, or height.
Nah bro. Not Asians. i thought this guy was some 22 year old Orlando Bloom by the way this girl was always bragging about her boyfriend, but when I met her boyfriend I asked myself if she was legally blind, really blind. She was a brazilian hottie, all of her was 21 years old, and to this day she still is with her boyfriend.
He still hasn't gotten a job.
I remember when I was in college and I'd sit in the student's longue with a book, keen to read a book. I'd get a friend of mine, of those male models show up and sit next to me and suddenly girls would come out of the woodworks and approach my friend making it so easy for them.
jon Snow, Robb and Ned Starkk, Jamie Lannister. What is the same thing these three guys share? They're hot as hell and guys like that are what women want. The rest of the male population is just a filler, we're here for when they want to get married and have children.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
You didn't get laid because the women you were trying to get laid with were not into you.
Yes, of course. Hence why I said the problem was that I
pedestalized the pussy and beta'd out
meaning I acted very beta and killed the attraction. Height, eye color, looks aren't always going to keep that pussy juice flowing.
In my experience, it is conversation skills that bring the most success. Look at this goofy looking fella named Carlos Xuma, who isn't conventionally handsome. He is grandmaster level at conversations, interacting with women, and letting his natural self shine through.
[–]LinaIG-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Trust me, beta behavior has no influence in a woman's desire to have sex with the guy - all that matters to her is his looks.
I have a friend who is a 10/10, and he's a surfer. The guy spent a lot of his time going from beach to beach getting laid.
He's very shy. He's very romantic. Very unassuming. He never raises his voice. Sometimes I have to ask him to repeat himself several times because he talks in whispers.
He pays for dates. He buys gifts to women he has never had sex with, women he barely talks to, and the women thank him for the gift and he gets appreciative glances. No one telsl him, ''dude you are such a nice guy! You are trying to get laid by buying her stuff!''
I also know guys who treat women like trash and they still have plenty of women attacted to him. Because they are hot.
Any behavior is acceptable by women when the guy is hot, and when the guy is average-looking, acting manly, Alpha, or masculine in any way will not get him laid.
I've observed so many guys getting shut down, not only in clubs. I enjoy seeing male to female interaction and how some guys get everything and how some get nothing.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh, you mean 0.1% good looks? Then yes, even an omega version of Chris Hemsworth will still slay endless pussy.
I'm not talking about 10/10s. I'm talking about 5,6,7/10 men who get boosted a few points by
acting manly, Alpha, or masculine in any way
This will get him laid. Beta behavior will dry up the pussy like a hairdryer is shoved in it.
Add in some SMV points of career, hobbies, achievements and an average looking guy will do just fine. Otherwise, TRP would not be as successful. Chris Hemsworths are not browsing /r/theredpill.
[–]LinaIG-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Alpha males behavior do not boost a man's SMV. Because Alpha male behavior is amoral. I've seen guys act like the biggest sweethearts, guys who were above average but not 10/10 and the women they wanted were very average. They still went home to fap.
I've seen 10/10s act like autistic kids and get laid.
being above 5 doesn't mean anything, and knowing how to talk, how to funny and interesting does not make him go from 6 to 8 or 8 to 10. It just makes him a cool guy to hang out with. I had plenty of girs in college show up wherever i was and hang out with me, but they'd only hit on the 10/10 guys and these girls with the exception of one was not a 10/10, maybe a 5 at most(thin and relatively cute).
Oh, man, career, achievements and hobbies, they don't make a man hot. It might make women willing to put out, but they don't make a guy hot. Its artificial power. All the power that matters to me is the one that is natural and that will always last.
I have a cousin who looks like a victoria secret model but with a body and a booty to put any woman to shame, and she spent her youth banging male models, now that she's in her late 20s she married a very average guy who has a good job. He thinks he's lucky.
I don't think so. Her looks will fade away soon enough. She'll probably grow fat after getting pregnant and stay that way, and I doubt he gets laid whenever he wants to.
True success, the mark of being a desirable man comes from being able to attract and bang beautiful women in their 20s. For their attraction in that case is natural, and young women are the only women worth having. If she's in her 30s, she's some Alpha male sperm dumpster box. Why would any guy want that?
[–]Epicureanist 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
and when the guy is average-looking, acting manly, Alpha, or masculine in any way will not get him laid.
Brah things are not that dismal. Why do you think game and FRs exist? Or do you assume only 10/10 men post? You are right, 10/10 men really do have a carte blanche; but that is just their reality.
I'm bald, 5'7, and don't have a pretty face, yet I pull 6s and the rare 7. Yes it takes a decent amount of effort. But if things were as bad as you say, I'd have castrated myself years ago.
[–]LinaIG-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Game and FR evolved as a way to make a profit from all those millions of men who are not getting laid at all. MTV even had a PUA show some 10 years ago when Game was at its highest peak of fame.
Then men came to realize that game is fake and that it exists to make men spend their lives trying to become what they can't become. Players have always existed.
A guy can't become hot by learning some lines or developing inner game or confidence. A guy can't get an haircut and a closet of brand new clothes and become an Enrique Iglesias. Enrique Iglesias is what he is because his dad was hot af and he inherited his good-looks + talent(ok ok) and charisma.
I don't know. Most men who say they are average but claim to pull 6's or 7's are either saying the women are 6's and 7's when the women are only considered hot because they are thin, and what is a 5 where I'm from is probably a 10 to that one guy, or the guy is hot and doesn't understand it.
[–]Epicureanist 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Ehh that's a very one sided look of things. The reality is that game is hard. Like going to gym, learning an instrument, or learning a second language, most people aren't going to do the requisite work. Most people are going to quit when they get blown out, get no numbers, and feel like shit.
A guy can't become hot by learning some lines or developing inner game or confidence.
Look at Russell Brand as an example of high quality game. He's a natural, but his game is ridiculous. He's not particularly attractive nor attractive, but he can woo many women. And these women aren't starstruck fans, they're celebrities or news personnel who meet a lot of powerful impressive people.
what is a 5 where I'm from is probably a 10 to that one guy, or the guy is hot and doesn't understand it.
This is a low 6 to me. This is a 6.5
[–]LinaIG0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Everyone learns a second language. Its not hard at all.Most of the western world is fluent in English. Several European Countries have one or two foreign languages as unofficial languages. ok, I'm disgressing.
Game doesn't work like that. Its not something that any guy can pick-up because it depends on the man who uses game, not in the tool itself. A guy who is a 7/10 doesn't need game and a 10/10 casanova doesn't need game either.
But a 5/10 man has a hard enough time getting with women in his league, and I've never seen a 5/10 get anything higher than a 5 with game, despite all of his effort and expertise at it. I saw it happen so many times.
Naturally, it can happen when I'm not looking. Nevertheless, I'm spoiled by how much I've witnessed in my teens up to know. All of that power those male models have on women. That is something that no man can achieve with game. These are the gods I respect and admire.
Russel Brand is an attractive man. He's handsome, really, at least with his beard on, and he's tall as hell. He's also a rock star and an actor.
To me this is a 5 http://richestcelebrities.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Kristen-Stewart-Net-Worth-660x330.jpg
8
http://cdn2.hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/04/chloe-grace-moretz-wallpaper-11.jpg
This is what a ten looks like to me.
http://cdn29.us2.fansshare.com/pictures/claudiaschiffer/claudia-schiffer-claudia-schiffer-1430958101.jpg
[–]DStoo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Kristen Stewart is a 5?
Holy christ in hell. Now I know your problem. You've never actually met or talked to women.
I guess I have to remove myself from any further discussion as my wife is a 5-6.
[–]LinaIG1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How the hell is Kristen Stewart more than a 5? She has no body, has a man-jaw, her hair is thin, she has messed-up teeth, her cheekbones aren't high enough. Kirsten Stewart is average as hell, maybe not over there, but I've had better-looking classmates when I was in junior High school, and when I got to college I saw all the best that Humanity has to offer.
Maybe that's why I admire Alpha males so much, the men whose looks are so divine that they can make these goddesses do whatever they want for free, unlike average men who have to do everything and think they're dating or married to a 22 year old Claudia Schiffer.
[–]DStoo2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Just wow. You're beyond help. (And headed straight towards /r/foreveralone). Do you ever tell a woman she's just a solid 4? Want to post up your photos so we can figure out where you rank? Because based on a Kristen Stewart 5 I'm going to guess a 1-2?
Maybe that's why I admire Alpha males so much, the men whose looks are so divine that they can make these goddesses do whatever they want for free,
Do you ever look in the mirror and listen to yourself talk?
[–]LinaIG2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I just said that I'm the male equivalent of a Kristen Stewart. A bland 5 based on looks, but I rank myself as lower than 5 because of a sunken chest and small stature(5'6'') whereas most of the guys around me have the build of Brad Pitt in Fight club, and they're all 6 feet tall or taller, if the guys are younger than men, and yes, women like Kirsten Stewart is a 5.
Take a small trip to a small-time European college and you'll see plenty of women who are far better-looking than Kirsten Stewart.
Yep. I look at myself in the mirror and listen to myself talk. What's wrong with admiring the men who are so perfect-looking that they can do to women what women can do to men at will?
[–]DStoo0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You're just beyond help. Good luck nailing your 10.
What 10? I've told you before. Women like Kirsten Stewart abound in Europe, its the average. But even women who are average like her can go for men who are way beyond her league, and still, she cheated on her 10/10 boyfriend.
[–]capt-next-a-hoe0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah, I have no idea how things are in Europe. There's so many average people in America, the truly beautiful ones drown in the noise.
The very hottest girls in my college benefit from the small-college-goggles taking 10 pounds off. I need to travel through Europe and fix my rating scale.
[–]Epicureanist 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You've missed my point, but I'll clarify. I'm talking about Americans and over here learning a second language is uncommon and makes people think you're smart; assuming you're not a foreigner raised in bilingual household.
Yes. And every day those newscasters see other tall handsome actors, musicians, and athletes. Brands looks are not what makes those women so attracted to him.
[–]LinaIG0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Might be so. Yet I don't envision Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise as the embodiment of the bad boy spirit, and still these two guys are still considered the most attractive in hollywood decade after decade. Mr. Pitt is what, 55? looks far better than most 25 year olds. Respect.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Chloe moretz is an 8? HAHAHAHAHA
Yes, an 8. For her beautiful face and blonde hair. Her body is lacking, but hey. i wouldn't say no to her. Nor would I say no to Natalie Portman.
[–]cuponoodlesisback -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Dude, where do you live that Kristen Stewart is a 5? She's definitely not a supermodel, but she's at least above average. I think this is the problem with TRPers. Due to illusory self-superiority they rate themselves as above average and think they're above girls like Kristen Stewart when in reality they're below. It's probably where a lot of the complaints about hypergamy come from.
Edit: Post a male 5 please. I bet you it's some chubby, ugly, balding guy.
[–]LinaIG1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've lived all over the place, dad was a military while I was a teen and and in my late to early 20s so I moved all over Europe. Kirsten Stewart is a 5 easily in most Euro Countries, and I'm talking about high School.
In college she would be below 5 easily. Not only do the Euro women have perfect faces but their hair and figure is amazing.
Oh, I have the same level of looks of Kirsten Stewart more or less, as a man. But you see, Robert Pattison is much more attractive than her.
He's out of her league, and she still got to shackle up with him and she cheated on him witha guy who was much older, balding and who didn't have Mr. Pattison aesthetics or $$.
Its not uncommon for me to share the train with Russian Super Models. Just the other day I had Miss Berlin 2013 in my bus. Euro women put any other women, worldwide to shame, and I'm just talking about the average women. Dayum, and the men? God damn, sons of Odin right here.
This is a male 5. Ricardo Quaresma, Portuguese professional football player. Got loads of guys like this one running around.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rMsWmfBmr4A/VM93q9JLNgI/AAAAAAAAP5U/whTErHBjcVY/s1600/Quaresma.jpg
Portuguese tv star.
http://images.cdn.impresa.pt/caras/2014-07-19-0.jpg3?v=w720h720 Lourenço Ortigão. I used to have lots of guys like this one in high school.
These two are the typical Portuguese/Spanish 5's, maybe a little above 5.
http://www.lusomotores.com/images/stories/2013/LUSOMOTORES/Seat-LiveStream-SaraMatos.jpg
Sara Matos.
Rita Pereira.
http://images.cdn.impresa.pt/activa/2014-01-22-rita-pereira.jpg?v=w620h395
Fat, short and bald? That ain't average. My dad is in his 60s and he has all of his hair, is 5'8'' and he weights 65kgs, I don't know how much that is in pounds. All I know is that its around the same weight Brad Pitt had in Fight club. I'm the one who is short at 5'6'' lol.
Its kinda hard to bang women when average men look like that huh? ahaha, so you see, Americans have it easy. All you gotta do is be thin and you're already in the top echelon of good looks.
[–]cuponoodlesisback1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I've spent time in multiple Western European countries (England, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland) and Kristen Stewart is facially above average in all of them. British and Dutch women weren't very facially attractive in my experience. To be fair, maybe we just have different standards/tastes. I don't find the girl you listed as an 8 more attractive than Kristen; she just has better styling, lighting, and makeup. I consider the men you listed as above average but I've never been to Spain or Portugal so maybe the men are just hot there. The first 2 guys you posted typically date more attractive girls than Kristen in my experience.
[–]LinaIG1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
British women are not attractive at all. Seriously? I couldn't spend 5 minutes walking outside withhout seeing plenty of women without make-up(or at least with make-up good enough to be invisible LOL) looking a lot better than Kristen Stewart.
i am a bit biased regarding the girl I rated as 8 because I have a fascination over natural blondes. I am of Southern European blood, women like those 2 dark skinned girls are what is average to me, natural blondes with blue eyes are not at all, and the guy with the lighter skin tone was in a relationship with the one girl named Sara Matos.
The other guy was dating a fashion model, and I think she was also Miss Portugal.
I guess that's a preference then. There are a lot of blondes where I live so it doesn't impress me much. I thought British women were the ugliest out of the countries I went to. They had masculine, aged faces (looked 28 at 22) and were pretty out of shape. I do love their mannerisms though.
You probably just notice the attractive women and that's why Kristen Stewart seems plain to you. She has a plain look, but is cute and has no real flaws. That alone makes her above average.
[–]AureliusThunderkok6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some of TRP is misguided. A number of members confuse sexual strategy is amoral with "anything I do to get sex and how I treat women is beyond judgment.". Which, of course, is complete bullshit.
However, an emphasis on physical fitness, confidence and understanding male/female dynamics can make a huge difference. Regardless of your body type OP, weight training, diet and fitness enables you to sculpt a body of your (almost) choosing. The only real limits are knowledge and commitment.
Reading up on and utilizing communication techniques will improve your chances of attracting women. In my experience, looks can get you to their table but a personality can get them in your arms.
If you are feeling bitter and depressed, that is likely the vibe you give out. No one is going to find that attractive. If it's situational then you need to change your situation. If it's chronic then you need to see a doctor and get treatment. TRP is a fan of my namesake's book The Meditations. Everyone can learn a lot from it.
No one, Blue or Red, owns any of these ideas. To spurn them all because you have been offended by the actions of a few will only result in you punishing yourself.
[–]max_peenorCertified TRP Shitlord5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So the BP tards are chumming the waters here now? Too many TRP bans?
0.0000000001/10
[–]fzed1199 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are far more likely to bitch and report. Id rather call people out.
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[–]blametheboogiefresh dressed with the fly green socks2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep you're right, your life sounds so much better than being rp. I've been a sad quitter who doesn't believe in himself like you are now and I've been confident and generally happy like I am now.
Confident and happy is better.
[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (60 children) | Copy Link
So tell me more about how all terpers are bitter and hate women...
Women even say it and it's crazy to assume that a power lifter is the ideal body type.
It is, body builder is the way to go, aesthetics < everything else
You are not just bitter towards women, you are also bitter towards TRP, go to PUAhate and enjoy your echo chamber
[–]DStoo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah no. There are women that are turned off by the body builder types that prefer the soccer types. (And vice versa).
[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Bodybuilders today look different than 40 years ago.
[–]DStoo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Find us a time machine and we'll go back 40 years and discuss bodybuilders 40 years ago.
Not to mention 'power lifter' is pretty clear what body type it is.
[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is not much difference between body builder and soccer type. There is a huge difference between power lifter and body builder.
[–]DStoo -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you read your own posts sometimes?
Women even say it and it's crazy to assume that a power lifter is the ideal body type. It is, body builder is the way to go
It is, body builder is the way to go
[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Power lifter = crazy
Body builder is the way to go.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link
ottermode is more than enough, so men should have no excuses for neglecting lifting (bodyweight exercises count) and proper diet.
[–]Epicureanist 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
Ottermode is enough, but I'd like to think there's a part of everyman that wants to be big at least once in their life.
I know I feel that way . Don't even care if women are less attracted to me.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link
Is that you???
I'd like to think there's a part of everyman that wants to be big at least once in their life.
I feel you. I want my kids and grandkids to see me as a superhero.
I have no clue how women can be less attracted to this than ottermode or even skinnyfat.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
Because we arent male homosexuals, we are women
[–]Lonny_zone2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Isn't the pose a bigger problem then the body itself?
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
it ain't helpin
[–]Lonny_zone1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The tightness of the shirt ain't helpin' either.
Oh, and the (probably) shaved arms and chest.
/u/capt-next-a-hoe might be right in saying that women would prefer this guy's body to ottermode and skinny fat men (if one were to shed the gay stylization).
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
the exaggerated slimness of the waist is no good
[–]Lonny_zone1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If this guy stood like a man and dressed like one his waist slimness would be a non-issue for you.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
now we're talking
[–]Lonny_zone1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
“ψ(｀∇´)ψ
is that an angry duck throwing up its hands in frustration?
An evil man with pitchforks to spear two bros with.
Didn't even notice the shaved arms. Just the gains.
I also wasn't paying attention to the pose either.
[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Male homosexuals and female heterosexuals are both attracted to men though.
I just assumed a feminine woman would want someone beefy and masculine like Khal Drogo.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
look at the men women like, in publications written for and by women. go look at ladyboners
That picture was 100% tom of finland homoerotic
this is an example of the rarely discussed "male solipsism"
[–]theuglypill[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Legit. I feel like this obsession with big squatting bodybuilders and powerlifters on trp is almost homoerotic tom of finland level shit.
It isn't the most attractive bodytype. There is such thing as moderation, most women would rather have an 'ottermode' athletic physique than a bodybuilder. Women are pretty honest about this too, if you ask them. It's stupid to think they really in their hearts desire some bodybuilder. Maybe some do but a skinny with some muscle physique is the most widely appealing.
If you're going to use trp evopsych logic, then ottermode would be superior because early humans before civilization needed more endurance.
But the majority of women prefers a body builder type, and other mode has no chance in a night club.
[–]theuglypill[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao, no they don't. Keep repeating it though. Maybe it will become true.
[–]alreadyredschool1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You are right, women hate the way strippers look, they prefer skinny guys.
[–]parabadamasambaFilthy man whore1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha, nice! Atlas, you're awesome.
[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Ohh Id love to hear more.
Men project male spontaneous sexuality onto women and project onto women what they think THEY'D find visually appealing but they we're a woman, leading to captain save a hos gay porn post
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Whoops, forgot to say "no homo".
No homo
So homo
[–]capt-next-a-hoe1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
2manly4me
Not qt3.14 enough like this
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
too late, youre ghey
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
male solipsism
Guilty as charged.
[–]CyraleaRedPill Vanguard0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Ladyboners is a poor representation, a very sizeable portion of the subscribers are gay males, and the women are the subset of redditor females. Very different from girls who don't internet frequently.
[–]Atlas_B_Shruggin🔪Yeetus that Feetus🔪0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Look at the celebrity men women love in their magazines for them. High dominance club sluts undoubtedly like jacked men, but "women" prefer ottermode
[–]CyraleaRedPill Vanguard0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Celebrities are high SMV because of their status, wealth and fame, not (necessarily) because of their looks. Show pictures of a nobody that lacks the aforementioned traits and you'll get a truer sense of the truth.
Status wealth and fame ARE male SMV, not raw looks
[–]Cyralea1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That's the point I was making. A lot of the submissions to Ladyboners wouldn't be there if they weren't high status males. It doesn't mean that women are attracted to their bodies.
OK ill concede ladyboners, but you wont find things directed at women that depend on women liking it filled with tom of finland jacked bodies. Jackedness is a relatively new phenomen
True, and I'm pretty sure what men typically envision as the "right" size is fairly bigger than what women desire. That said, I've seen tons of women who swear up and down that they don't like jacked guys drool when said jacked guy is around.
[–]Cbus_anonymous 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For me, it just looks unnatural, which is a turnoff. Muscles developed by doing things (like churning butter, or carrying pipes and fittings) are interesting, but not necessary; muscles developed by lifting are too...too...much the same all over, and kind of creepy to me.
Interesting. Attraction is fascinating.
Here's my own perspective on attraction.
I'm an artist and I appreciate aesthetics. Aside from beautiful faces, I am attracted to a woman's body if it looks "pleasing" to me. I don't really think about how they achieved it, be it exercise, plastic surgery, makeup. If it looks pretty to me, I am attracted.
It's similar to men's faces and bodies, there just isn't a sexual component of the attraction. I can make an equivalent list of ideal features of a man like I did in that thread for ideal women (yes, I collect pics of men too, for visual library reference material).
But yeah, as Atlas pointed it out, it's just my solipsism.
[–]Epicureanist 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No. That's Adam Charlton.
I want my kids and grandkids to see me as a superhero.
This is exactly the point. At this point I'd be much happier looking like a superhero and inspiring kids than being smaller and getting more women.
[–]theuglypill[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ok fair enough if that's what you personally want for yourself, but most people on TRP don't say that kind of thing. They just say you absolutely have to keep blowing up until you look like some douchebag or else you are beta. I just take issue with the projectors who say that you NEED to keep squatting and getting bigger because that's what women want and that everything else is being 'small' and beta. Because that's delusional and doesn't really reflect womens' preferences.
[–]Epicureanist 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well that's male solipsism. Women just want abs and some light tone. Talk to any big guy and they'll tell 90% of people complimenting them are dudes.
The body women want comes from 8 months of lifting/diet if you're skinnyfat. 6 months if you're just skinny.
If you raise them right they will anyway.
Who is more of a super hero, a guy that looks like that but has no depth or the guy that can wander into the wilderness and survive for a week. Start a fire a dozen different ways. Sew, cook, build stuff from scratch, etc?
If you chose the former I feel sorry for you. My dad may not have been roided like that but he was still a 'superhero' and I plan on doing the same for my son.
In part by not wasting my time at a gym lifting when I could be spending time raising him.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Why not both?
I'm working my ass off now so I have the time, energy, money to do all that and more.
[–]DStoo 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm working my ass off
Weird, I'm not. I became a stay at home dad. But according to TRP that's some sort of bad thing.
Now I have all the time and energy in the world and still don't waste it on lifting.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey, we all have different goals in life. Stay at home dad doesn't appeal to me, unless you're already financially independent and generating passive income out da ass. If you're happy, that's what counts.
Lifting isn't a waste of time for me. It's a sacred, meditative activity that de-stresses me like nothing else. Looking good is just icing on that swole cake.
[–]DStoo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stay at home dad doesn't appeal to me,
What about it doesn't appeal to you? Not putting on pants 90% of the days? Not having to commute, anywhere? Not having to work 9-5?
What about it of staying at home is that unappealing?
It's a sacred, meditative activity that de-stresses me like nothing else.
Try yoga.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ehh, staying at home would be fine, if I have a home office and I won't be disturbed for long periods of time. But even then, I'm not collaborating with other artists and working on projects.
Ideally, I'll set up my own studio and pimp out my office in a high rise building. Home is separate from where I want to keep my livelihood/passion/career and I don't want to be confined to it, especially when I want to travel without always dragging my wife or kids along.
I do yoga, lifting, and swimming. My shit is balanced.
[–]ProtoPillRed Before Red4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I definitely don't have that aspiration. I feel plenty powerful and agile and sexy with low body fat and a toned, athletic figure.
[–]Epicureanist 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To each their own. I was just being solipsistic then.
[–]RichardPalma0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Aesthetics are less than everything else? I don't get it.
[–]alreadyredschoolRational egoism < Toxic idealism0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, mistake
[–]PatriarchyMustDie 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Trp is playing hard to get when you're already hard to want.
[–]fzed1199 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Explain the hook up culture.
[–]PatriarchyMustDie 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
women who want sex with men they're attracted to, go out and do exactly that?!
[–]LinaIG1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much. The few red pillers who bang women forget to mention that they're 6 feet tall and that they look like Robert Pattinson. its not their fault,really. They share the same syndrome with women; the confidence syndrome.
Women will always tell you that you don't get laid because you are not confident. What they're forgetting to mention is that confidence is only an attractive quality when the guy who has it is physically good-looking.
PUA's make a business out of their message, the silly myth that every man can get laid, when the truth of the matter is that I see plenty of decent-looking men go on huge,huge dry spells. So what chances does shorties like us have at all? Unless you are Jean claude van damme =)
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Nah, you're just giving up too early. Unless you on some quasimodo shit, this statement
confidence is only an attractive quality when the guy who has it is physically good-looking.
is not true.
Are you better or worse looking than Carlos Xuma?
[–]LinaIG1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'm a lot better-looking than many guys who are 10 years younger than me. I am also very charming and I always have women wanting to spend time with me after getting to know me, but I'm short, and I have a sunken chest(which no one knows about it) and I get a lot of stares and smiles from attractive young women, but that's because they are trying to get free attention.
Damn, I remember the times I'd have a good conversation going with lots of laughs and smiles and with the girl opening up, only for some random tall/handsome guy to show up and bam, there she goes. ahaha, man did that leave a bad taste in my mouth. I got over it.
Women are addicted to attention. I always found it hilarious when I would make a move on a girl, she'd reject me indirectly, i'd move on, and she'd get mad at my decision to move on and try to score with some other chick. What annoyed me was how they'd band-up and get pissed off because I wasn't staying ''loyal'' to no one.
College chicks, bro. They're beautiful but they're messed-up and so immature. Older women, I don't know. i don't notice them much, the very few who are attractive are married, or if they are single they are messed-up in the head.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
My bad bro, I shouldn't make claims when I can't empathize with your situation.
Do you mind sharing your height?
[–]LinaIG0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm only 5'6''. Most guys I see on a daily basis, my own age, are 6 feet tall, and the younger ones are easily taller than 6 feet tall. Its not uncommon for me to be on the train and for a bunch of 14 year olds to come along all 6 feet tall +.
[–]DStoo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And one of my friends is 5'4" and has no problem picking up chicks.
[–]LinaIG0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Extreme aesthetics compensate for lack of height. Tom Cruise picked women just fine before being rich. But most men aren't Brad Pitt. Which is to say, most men aren't hot as hell. And no, working out will not make a man hot.
Height>face>smile>hair>broad shoulders>big penis.
[–]DStoo 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You'll find any excuse as to why it's not your fault, won't you?
I wouldn't say the is particularly good looking. And he's a union plumber so not rolling in the cash.
Dude, I just told you that I'm short and that I have a sunken chest. That is why I don't get laid. So yeah, it is my fault, that I'm not good looking enough for women to hook-up with me.
Where every guy who is considered average has male model looks, around you, and every girl who is average(never seen an obese woman in my entire life) is a lot better looking than what you find in many other Countries - its near-high impossible to get laid.
Yeah, I know a guy who is so ugly he almost looks deformed, he also has very bad teeth and no money. he's been dating this brazilian super hottie for the past 10 years.
He's 6'6''.
The few red pillers who bang women forget to mention that they're 6 feet tall and that they look like Robert Pattinson.
If they're that naturally attractive chances are they don't need to read TRP in the first place.
PUA's make a business out of their message
TRP is not PUA. Guys sharing information for free on the internet is in no way a business.
[–]gavinok 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
know tons of attractive 'betas' that are out wrecking pussy like crazy. Skinny 6'3" white male with good skin and jawline is like a ticket to the vagina paradise. And guess what, they don't use theredpill type tactics. They're just the cool chill nonjudgmental bros. No 'alpha' shit at all here.
No offense, but how do you define the difference between alpha and beta?
[–]SlayerS_ThorZaiNpuss1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm gonna downboat you OP because you argue by using memes against subjective absolutes.
pretty sad tbh lad smh
[–]Plugawy_Nedznik 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know tons of attractive 'betas' that are out wrecking pussy like crazy. Skinny 6'3" white male with good skin and jawline is like a ticket to the vagina paradise. And guess what, they don't use theredpill type tactics. They're just the cool chill nonjudgmental bros.
I don't think "cool chill nonjudgmental bro" is how I'd describe a beta. The only word there that fits a beta is "nonjudgmental" and even that can simply be misattributed to not giving a fuck, which is an alpha trait.
[–]adrixshadowIndigo Pill(aka dark and evil occult pill)1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not misguided if you understand it.
They key is the understanding the mental model of a female.
It is not something that can be explained with words.
[–]yastroud 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
People want to be around nonjudgmental, cool, relaxed, open people. Not bitter insecure ones.
Yeah, but the red pill is largely about overcoming bitterness and insecurity. It's not the PUA forum you liken it too. TRP is just the acknowledgement that the game is rigged, and ways to be a success in every arena, not just how many girls you sleep with. and it's not an endorsement of woman-hating.
you have no idea who actually is a redpiller and who isn't. the guys loudly being misogynist IRL definitely aren't.
[–]parabadamasambaFilthy man whore2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I'd just like to say, I think you brought up a good point in addressing the bitterness that's commonplace over at TRP. From my experience lurking these forums, TRPers often resort to misogyny and contempt towards "non-believers" as a response to their personal frustrations, and are quick to rationalize their foul behavior as "being in the anger phase". I've said this before, I'll say it again. Outside of its unhealthy beliefs and absurd misogyny, TRP has nothing unique or exclusive to offer. It's quite simple. If sex is the end-goal, being attractive, regardless of gender, provides an advantage in romantic interactions. Want to improve your odds? Exercise. Eat well. Get healthy. Work on your social skills. Develop your personality and interests. Improve your confidence. This is all well-accepted advice in society.
(With all that being said, don't put yourself down, man. You're beautiful.)
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Wow, you just made the OP even more angry and bitter.
Edit: looks like my CMV was pretty true
[–]parabadamasambaFilthy man whore3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
In the first line of his post, he describes himself as "short, dumb, and ugly". Sounds pretty rock-bottom to me. As an ugly duckling myself (and as somebody who has dealt with depression and anxiety), my heart goes out to him.
[–]capt-next-a-hoeCherry Popper Red5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You're beautiful.
/u/theuglypill, does this phrase do anything for you?
[–]theuglypill[S] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No. It just reminds me of how unattractive I am.
[–]ToshiroOzuwaraDread Pill2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have a big boner right now.
[–]parabadamasambaFilthy man whore1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You have a boner? I have a boner too! Oh man, what's going on here?
[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Now now lads, let's not get carried away.
Put the boners back in their holsters, no one needs to get penetrated here today.
Let's all just put them down slowly, back away, real easy like.
Everybody be cool now.
[–]parabadamasambaFilthy man whore2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's literally this, but with boners.
Except premature ejaculation is in your favor, assuming your aim is good.
[–]DStoo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Theredpill is not about 'self improvement', it's about bitter males burned by or unsuccessful with women trying to acquire sex.
Probably the most accurate description I've seen so far.
They're just the cool chill nonjudgmental bros. No 'alpha' shit at all here. And don't claim "well they're alphas because they have high SMV! that's redpill! REDPILL IS RIGHT, IT'S PROVEN!".
I'm both a 'beta bucks stay at home dad' and one with an ungodly high SMV.... at the same time.
[–]CyraleaRedPill Vanguard-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A bitter male trying to acquire sex after being burned in the past is still self-improving. Not sure how that's a disqualifier.
I'm both a 'beta bucks stay at home dad' and one with an ungodly high SMV
What makes you say that? You don't get to determine your own SMV. You admitted to not lifting and you don't have an income. Your SMV sounds low-ish to me.
[–]DStoo -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You can do it without being bitter.
What makes you say that?
Because I don't have a problem with women and haven't for a while
You don't get to determine your own SMV.
Fine, tell me my SMV.
You admitted to not lifting and you don't have an income. Your SMV sounds low-ish to me.
Please, tell me more about my life that you don't know. You do realize that there are thousands of men that have no problem getting women that don't lift, right?
The "You gotta lift" is a tiresome circlejerk in TRP.
[–]CyraleaRedPill Vanguard0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Just like a fat person can lose weight without being depressed. You can't help how you feel, only how you act.
Fine, tell me my SMV...Please, tell me more about my life that you don't know.
You've given me nothing to believe you have any indicators of high SMV, and two strong indicators of low-SMV. Those other men you describe have something to compensate for their shortcomings.
There's no reason for anyone to believe you have high SMV. Unless you were born exceptionally attractive, in which case your lack of empathy makes sense.
[–]DStoo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't help how you feel, only how you act.
And TRPers need to 'act' better.
You've given me nothing to believe you have any indicators of high SMV
Well what would be a high SMV? Because I think my SMV is just fine even if it's not the cliche SMV that RPers are striving for.
If the 'So you're a boring fuck' thread is any indication my 'interesting' SMV must be compensating for a lot. I don't relate with anything posted there. So therefore I must just have a crazy high SMV based on being 'the most interesting man in the world".
and two strong indicators of low-SMV.
TRP needs to get over the circlejerk of "You have to lift". You don't. I don't know who the hell started it but you need to get over it. Not lifting isn't an indicator of a low SMV.
I still haven't heard anyone tell me why staying at home is low SMV, just that it is. I get to do what I want all day long while you're working 9-5 trying to make money to attempt to appear high SMV.
There's no reason for anyone to believe you have high SMV
Other than I don't have a problem with women? Wouldn't that kind of be the results of having a high SMV?
Unless you were born exceptionally attractive,
I definitely wouldn't say I was. Though I don't know what the average TRPer looks like to compare. I haven't seen a single one post a photo of even a 'before and after' lifting photo. (People do it all the time in loseit and fitness, but TRPers seem to be camera shy.)
[–]cuponoodlesisback 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Such a good thread.
[–]CursedLemonA Bigger, Bluer Dick0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Went over this in another thread that I submitted
[–]lolobviouslyRed Pill0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I identify as red pill and last night had to choose between 2 women, a 21 year old Blonde (I told her no) and a 25 year old brunette who is an amazingly generous and intimate person who adores me. Im staying at the blondes house today. My anecdote cancels out your anecdote, OP.
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We need a /r/SlutHateDebate for people like you
[–]cuponoodlesisback -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This whole thread was just a spot on, sick, epic burn. Congrats OP, you nailed it. I wish I could give you 1000 karma points.
[–]Ultramegasaurus-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
upboated :')
[–]gstvtrp0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
legit. Both RP and BP are fucking retarded.
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