I recently figured I'd further my knowledge about evolutionary psychology, and bought the text book (sixth edition by David Buss). Having gone through the first few chapters about general fundamentals and combating the hostile forces of nature, I've finally gotten to a part that may be of interest in a gender discussion sense.
This book has a few specifically focusing on sex differences: Women's long term mating strategies, men's long term mating strategies, and short term sexual strategies. There may be some further interest with regards to gender differences, but I'll hold that off for now.
Fundamentally, there are some relevant core observations:
First: The sex with the highest parental investment is bound to be the most choosy one. This is not necessarily females, in some species men are the ones with the highest parental investment, and in those species, they are also the most choosy sex. In humans though, it is rather obvious that women have the highest obligatory parental investment, so from a simple mating perspective they would be expected to be the more choosy ones, though given a higher male expectation of parental investment, one would also expect male choosiness to increase. In this case we'll focus on female preferences first.
Second: Mate preferences would have to be expressed as evolved psychological mechanisms. Given the advantage of consecutive generations having consistent advantageous preferences, it would be expected to evolve. At the same time, these evolved psychological mechanisms, would be expected, as most evolved mechanisms, to be numerous and specialized. These preferences would have to be evolved in response to adaptive problems, so that will make up the structure of the outline.
So, what are the adaptive problems women face with regards to long term mating?
- Selecting a mate who is able to invest
- Selecting a mate who is willing to invest
- Selecting a mate who is able to physically protect her and her children
- Selecting a mate who will show good parenting skills
- Selecting a mate who is compatible
- Selecting a mate who is healthy
Now, let's find some of the evolved mate preferences identified to handle these problems.
For selecting a mate who is able to invest, we have the following long term mate preferences:
- Good financial prospects
- Social status
- Slightly older age
- Ambition/industriousness
- Size, strength, and athletic ability
For selecting a mate who is willing to invest:
- Dependability and stability
- Love and commitment cues
- Positive interactions with children
For selecting a mate who is able to physically protect her and her children
- Size (height)
- Bravery
- Athletic ability
- Masculine body type
For selecting a mate who will show good parenting skills
- Dependability
- Emotional stability
- Kindness
- Positive interactions with children
For selecting a mate who is compatible
- Similar values
- Similar ages
- Similar personalities
For selecting a mate who is healthy
- Physical attractiveness
- Symmetry
- Health
- Masculine features
The underlying theory here is that the mate preferences work to give some information relating to the adaptive problem, so that those who inherit the evolved mate preference effectively have had more children live to a reproductive age than the ones without those preferences, which have caused them to be generally represented through most of human cultures.
For each of these points, rationale and empirical foundations are presented, so I figured I'd try my hand at discussing this.
What, if any, part(s) of women's evolved long term partner preferences do you question the validity of?
[–]SurelyWoo17 points18 points19 points (36 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man11 points12 points13 points (18 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo7 points8 points9 points (17 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man5 points6 points7 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]neonroli470 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sid_InsidiousMGTOW VolCel Mall Santa0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sid_InsidiousMGTOW VolCel Mall Santa0 points1 point2 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sid_InsidiousMGTOW VolCel Mall Santa0 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sid_InsidiousMGTOW VolCel Mall Santa0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (13 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dora_BowlWrites like a bitchy philosophy article1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]softhandsam-1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]DangZagnut19 points20 points21 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 7 points8 points9 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]DangZagnut8 points9 points10 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]DangZagnut0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]DangZagnut-1 points0 points1 point (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]DangZagnut-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]alphadawg265 points6 points7 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]xXxINCELFAGGOTxXxIt is what it is2 points3 points4 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]stranglethebars0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]xXxINCELFAGGOTxXxIt is what it is0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]stranglethebars0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]xXxINCELFAGGOTxXxIt is what it is0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]stranglethebars0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (14 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]HatezWomenzCuzIncelz0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (2 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]HatezWomenzCuzIncelz0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (5 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANTPurple Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80943 points4 points5 points (26 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 5 points6 points7 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80941 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Willow-girlLoves pumpkin pie and some hot Dickens cider5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Willow-girlLoves pumpkin pie and some hot Dickens cider2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SmurfESmurfersonVodka Trophy Wife7 points8 points9 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]_mwk2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]_mwk0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SmurfESmurfersonVodka Trophy Wife1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo3 points4 points5 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo4 points5 points6 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo2 points3 points4 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80940 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Frosty-Gate-80941 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]LeanLoner-2 points-1 points0 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SherbertBaconBrazen2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dora_BowlWrites like a bitchy philosophy article0 points1 point2 points (21 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dora_BowlWrites like a bitchy philosophy article1 point2 points3 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dora_BowlWrites like a bitchy philosophy article1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ffbtaw2-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] (2 children) | Copy Link
[removed]
[–]Mrs_DrgreeMarried to Automod[M] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]SurelyWoo1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sigma1979I love feminism AND trp0 points1 point2 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]Dora_BowlWrites like a bitchy philosophy article2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged1 point2 points3 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sigma1979I love feminism AND trp-1 points0 points1 point (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged1 point2 points3 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sigma1979I love feminism AND trp-1 points0 points1 point (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sigma1979I love feminism AND trp-1 points0 points1 point (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]nemma8831/F/UK INFP -t. Engaged1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Sigma1979I love feminism AND trp0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ffbtaw2-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Willow-girlLoves pumpkin pie and some hot Dickens cider1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]disposableboyfriendmeat robot 🤖4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]AutoModeratorMarried to MRS_DRgree[M] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sid_InsidiousMGTOW VolCel Mall Santa0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Zippo-Cat0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Zippo-Cat0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point2 points (19 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less-1 points0 points1 point (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 2 points3 points4 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less1 point2 points3 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point2 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Suck-Less0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Marketing_BaboonRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]softhandsam-1 points0 points1 point (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]kor8der[S] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]softhandsam0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link