How to transition from the friendly, likable "jokster" to the charming, seductive "suave"?

Aaron_Aero · 2018-08-29T21:59:29+00:00

Yes RDJ’s personality helps a reg body guy. But Pratt got with Ana Farris while he was chubby on Parks and Rec.

KEEP IN MIND... ask a bitch if she rather have funny buff boyfriend or just plain buff boyfriend she’ll probably go with the funny one because he’s fun to be around. Girls just want to have fun. You can be funny all you want if your jacked enough with strong frame (which Pratt has along with status).

FieldLine · 2018-08-29T22:14:30+00:00

Physical escalation. Touch her (hand, arm, shoulder, knee) when you make her laugh.

It'll feel autistic as hell when you first start. Do it anyway. It gets easier.

yesbuthereswhy · 2018-08-29T23:02:26+00:00

Bro, I was just like you. I could make everyone laugh their ass off but I could never use that energy to get women. It took me until my early 20s to realIze that teasing and telling jokes are the same thing. Having a large vocabulary and being aware of current events or pop culture gives you mounds of ammunition.

What worked for me is just poking fun at a woman about something. For instance, I was at a frat party for New Years. I saw this gorgeous hot piece walking around. She was collecting beer can tabs. Without hesitation I say, “Hey are you collecting those beer cans so you can show everybody you go to parties?” I said it jokingly but with a bit of sass. A woman like her typically never gets talked to like that, especially from a complete stranger. She took the bait and came over.

She comes up to me and says, “Bla bla my names such and such and I’m a “blank” major.” I tell her, “That’s cool, I didn’t ask.” I was a little drunk and the DGAF meter was redlining. She asks me how old I am and I tell her I’m X. She says, “Oh my god you’re a little baby!!!” I say, “And how old are you?” Swear to god she says she’s X+1 so I say, “Oh my god you’re so old, you must be like a cougar or something??? Are you from Cougar Town? I’d love to go to Cougar Town. That’s a place I’d visit.”

To better understand that context, each sentence I moved in a little closer. By the time I said, “That’s a place I’d visit.” I had my arm wrapped around her and was about five seconds from kissing her.

Basically, everything she said to me I took and blew it well over proportion. Do this with any decent chick who has a sense of humor but also remember to touch her and she’s going to drip. Having a sense of humor and being a class clown is the easiest way to get women if you can master seduction. Women love to laugh and it definitely makes them vulnerable.

PlzBuffBeamu · 2018-08-29T21:40:35+00:00

Read The Book of Pook.

I’m really fucking funny naturally and the key is that I don’t make jokes and shit to get pussy. I’m definitely more cute than sexy but that’s why i fucking lift. Now even though my personality isn’t the most masculine I make up for it in other aspects like my frame and lifting.

Zanford · 2018-08-30T01:10:50+00:00

You prob smile too much and laugh at your own jokes and antics. Be funny but in a more masculine way, closer to the deadpan style of humor.

Aaron_Aero · 2018-08-29T20:17:54+00:00

I’ve got the same problem. Though I will add that Chris Pratt is jacked (high SMV) and RDJ has that “I’m the shit” vibe going for him. That confident presence sort of vibe.

Ill_Will7 · 2018-08-29T23:33:49+00:00

Chris Pratt can fuck any girl he wants. Embrace being chris pratt. Just remember to isolate and escalate

UnbreakableFrame · 2018-08-29T23:47:00+00:00

Be more physically imposing than the men standing around you when you tell the joke. Self deprecation is fine when it's not the truest statement you've said all night. "I deal with crippling inadequacy about my body" is tongue in cheek when you are 190-200 at 8-10% bodyfat. If you are 135lbs or 250lbs at respectively 2% body fat or 35% body fat then it's more humorous in the tragic and overly honest sense.

The whole "being suave" thing is seriously overblown. Just be attractive and set tasteful boundaries for the things that you say. Be direct in what you want, but don't be perverse in your off-handed comments. There's a huge difference that a lot of guys don't seem to get. A confident, attractive man can tell a woman directly that he wants her, but he doesn't sit at the bar all night telling "your mom" jokes. Have some tact. Act like you had both a mother and a father. Extreme comedians exist, and are often very funny, but these guys are mostly watched by men. I doubt more than 10% of Bill Burr's audience are single females watching him while sipping on wine coolers with a cat in their lap.

veritasredd · 2018-08-30T01:06:41+00:00

Read the book of pook and The alpha rules. Make sure to not only read it but also apply it in your daily life.

thenerdderbs · 2018-08-30T01:13:54+00:00

Just stop talking so much. Even from your post, we can tell that you sort say out loud, whatever you're thinking.

You can still smile, answer questions, and sentences - but keep it to a minimum. But when you want to run your mouth, ask "will it really matter if I say this out loud?". Almost always, the answer is no. Try to limit it to like 10 sentences of talking throughout the day.

Then, you will find that others will open up to you, feel close to you and will consider you trustworthy, a great listener, and very mysterious. A person who is always talking, is not mysterious.

iskandph · 2018-08-30T01:11:37+00:00

try fixing that cotton frame of yours

and lift

onemanfortress · 2018-08-30T02:17:24+00:00

Go for girls outside of these groups where you are the clown. Dont introduce them to those groups. Divide and conquer.

Your case is way to common. If you love being the clown and you are happy with it its one thing, but if you are doing it because you feel rewarded with attention and other things that could be said are socially positive then you are being a bitch. Most guys do this and dont realize it, because they were conditioned to associate the happiness and the laughs of those around them as pleasure to themselves. The problem is that this makes you think in a way where you want to be validated by society. To each his own, if you have skills as a comedian more power to you, but know how to get out of that.

The kind of humor that women feel attracted too, is not the clown type of humor, perhaps there are some exceptions, of course if you have huge status and look like a model, then maybe selfdeprecating humor will even be good. But normally it is not. Normally you want to make fun of them. And even if they dislike it, you dont care.

So here's what you have to do. That might work or not, because i dont know nor your circumstances:

1- Date girls that dont know your clown groups. They may know them visually and superficially thats it.

2- The groups where you are considered a clown and there are girls you want, abstain from them for some time, and come back "different" in other words better. But this is stupid, can backfire and its too much PUA effort. So I would say leave it as it is, and dont worry. Because we all have social groups that are just to fuck around and laugh, and where you have no problem being an idiot sometimes, its ok for you, and you shouldnt lose these groups, but abstaining can actually allow you to change and grow. In other words, it is just better to try new things, than trying to change old things.

- You must have heard of how some guys get hate by their former friends and groups once they start improving themselves.

- If you are too much of a funny punchable dude. Move out of your comfort zone and try harder risky things in your life. Sports, risky sports. The rest of self-improvement you already know, like working out, and focusing on your objectives.

3- Learn about mgtow, and not to depend on society expectations or group/female validation for nothing. Thats a priority.

Now dont get me wrong. Humour is great, even for your health. So dont lose that part of yourself. Just maybe improve the other parts.

PS: Needless to say you shouldn't be more, or less funny, serious, aggressive, or change for this or that because of women or society, or any group. You should do it first and only for yourself. Women these days are low price and low value. Its ok to want sex, and i get you. But really, having a group of friends that you can laugh with and hobbies that you put first before any hoe, its what you will realize one day or another...The world is easier and simpler than it seems, once you get your priorities and standards in order.

In other words dont change for the hoes. Improve for yourself. If the hoes come to you, pump and dump them, because AWALT, or even easier, go monk mode.

Its all good.

bulletzdz · 2018-08-30T02:34:51+00:00

Wake up and act like Robert Jr, or whomever you want to become. Every action you do, everything you say throughout the day, you micro manage, and ask if this is something Robert would do or say. If it's not, you have to instantly change or fix it, right there on the spot.

For instance, you make a clown joke/act like a friendly clown to a girl or group of friends. You realize in your head, you fucked up.

At that very second, you act as if you went back in time a few seconds earlier, and relive that moment. (Retell a joke, change your mannerisms, change your vocal tonality, facial expression, eye contact, energy level, body language). Yes people will think your autistic, but your brain will now start making an effort to change your behavior subconsciously.

If you do this over the span of 6 months, you're entire behavior and personality will shift drastically. Do it up to 2 years, successfully, you should become a complete different person.

DetroitGangster · 2018-08-30T02:54:27+00:00

I've noticed a trend when it comes to TRP and humor. Is humor a bad thing? Like is it not an ideal characteristic? I consider myself pretty humorous and it has personally done me wonders with women. Thoughts?

HIJKelemenoP · 2018-08-30T04:04:01+00:00

Chris Pratt slays puh. Be Chris Pratt.

kellykebab · 2018-08-30T05:07:06+00:00

"Suave" is an adjective, not a noun dude

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2018-08-30T06:17:21+00:00

Ah big change that worked for me was changing the vibe of the jokes towards women. So load it up with some sexual energy instead of just a joke. The difference between a girl who thinks a guy is funny and a guy that's attractive and funny is the sexual tension.. /u/Fieldline suggested by using touch, which is the way I do it.. If she responds to that positively, add some more innuendo if you feel that's appropriate for the situation.

koedeloe · 2018-08-30T11:08:06+00:00

Just came here to say that I love your reddit name.

Bedtimeshine · 2018-08-30T13:06:01+00:00

Lift weights and stop talking so much

nebder · 2018-08-30T14:46:17+00:00

Add cockiness to your funny.

OG PUA DeAngelo spearheaded cocky/funny. He’s worth checking out google dangelo cocky funny.

thesmithofwords · 2018-08-30T14:12:27+00:00

It boils down to: Be physcially attractive and dominant (escalating)

Moreofmore · 2018-08-29T23:14:14+00:00

Having done something similar. Start doing daily self reflection on all the things you are saying and answering some questions on the.

Why did I say that? Who is it benefitting and how? How did I respond and how did others?

I found that by adjusting the purpose of joking, I could guide conversations and tell stories better with a more focused outcome. Make jokes to make yourself laugh first. If you’re not, then fix that first.

chachaChad · 2018-08-29T20:45:50+00:00

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Title	How to transition from the friendly, likable "jokster" to the charming, seductive "suave"?
Author	IFap2PoolPartyDraven
Upvotes	42
Comments	46
Date	August 29, 2018 8:06 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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