MSNBC describes the Men's Rights Movement, lol. Really, you need to see this.

im_not_a_gay_fish · 2014-05-29T14:11:24+00:00

I love the verbiage used. "He killed two women" "A student" "Two cyclists"

vaelin23 · 2014-05-29T12:35:27+00:00

Smear tactics. Shame on you MSNBC and I'm definitely not on the right in politics.

xNOM · 2014-05-29T12:45:58+00:00

That was kind of schizoid. The first half was a bit dramatized but perfectly factual -- the part hosted by the male reporter. The second half, hosted by the female reporter, was all dudes typing in dark rooms with spooky music.

They did clearly identify TRP etc. but so what. These sites are responsible for mass killings? Please... Young men are falling victim to mental illness and snapping and the one thing at the top of our list should be to worry about hurting women's feelings?

Young men (and it's always young men) commit mass murder over and over in the USA and there's always some lame excuse. Guns, the MRM, innate male violence. The one common factor in almost all of these mass murders is mental illness among young men. Yet we have to listen to 5 minutes of how women feel threatened on the internet.

chocoboat · 2014-05-29T11:51:42+00:00

WTF, MSNBC. I know they're about as biased as Fox, but I'm used to seeing them back up their points with facts instead of bullshit.

The only good thing about this piece is that they clearly identify the sites they're talking about: The Red Pill, Return of Kings, PUAHate.

Can you imagine the gender flipped version of this? Just imagine how many people's heads would explode if a major news network did a story like this-

"The infamous criminal was part of the Feminist movement, frequenting sites like Reddit's SRS and GoneWild, LiveJasmin, and Tumblr. On these sites, Feminists spread their message of hatred and teach that men are worthless subhumans and that trans women are actually men trying to infiltrate and corrupt female spaces."

I mean... seriously. Did they put any effort into this piece at all? There are hate-spreading places on the internet that deserve to be called out for promoting violence and abuse, and the media should be doing just that. But how the hell did they get the idea that this shit has anything to do with men fighting against discrimination and for gender equality?

rogerwatersbitch · 2014-05-29T15:52:20+00:00

Yeah, Im no fan of TRP and certainly not of the RotK, but its ridiculous to pin those murders on those websites. You can bet your as if a woman who frequented feminist websites and went out killing 4 women and 2 men, I would not pin it on feminism, but on her mental health.

memetherapy · 2014-05-29T15:27:54+00:00

This is really really ridiculous. Not a fan of PUAs or that side of TheRedPill, but to equate them with "hatred of women" is fucking ridiculous. I can't believe feminists are working this story into something about them.

2014-05-29T19:41:40+00:00

Watching this video is very, very frustrating. It has become clearer than ever before that I am no longer a member of the "Left". It's clear I am not a part of this society and that our society does not reflect any of the ideals that are important to me.

truth
jurisprudence
equality
critical thinking
accountability
civic obligation/service

This hurts. It genuinely hurts. I have always (as a Canadian no less) formed my identity around being progressive and Liberal. I have always voted NDP because I believe we share a responsibility in caring for each other, especially the poor and disenfranchised. Now, I feel alienated from that identity.

And that alienation isn't because of the MRM, or reinforced by the MRM before some feminist decides they understand me better than I do myself. It's because feminism is constantly ignoring my desire for equality and fairness and creating a just world. I am tired of being told I have no voice, no say and I should shut up. What worldview gets to do that and still be seen on the side of good? I don't get it.

Instead, it seems journalists are too lazy to work. They can't lose their jobs fast enough. They aren't professionals. They have no integrity. They are no better or worse than Hearst at the height of his power and any prestige Woodward and Bernstein brought to journalism has long, long faded. Perhaps everyone should watch the news with the sound and captioning off. It's all plastic and flashing neon.

The feminist narrative has to take precedence over fact every time. This idea Rodger killed because of misogyny is stupid. More than stupid, it is willingly retarded. He was taking Risperdone which is an atypical anti-psychotic and he was off medication. In the same manifesto where he talks about killing women he talks about killing men. More than that, however, you see the mental illness expressed in it's fullest. He clearly suffers from NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and has had a serious break with reality (requiring Risperdone) in his rant about BEING GOD.

I honestly have no idea how to respond to any of it. What they are doing is criminal but I don't see them being held accountable at any point. If we use humour to get through it, we're misogynists. If we point out where and how the representations of the MRM and MRAs is wrong, we're misogynists. If we point out he killed twice as many men, we're misogynists. If we say feminists are going over board in blaming this action on men as a whole, we're misogynists.

Anyhow, if one thing has been pushed to the surface over the last few days, is that I love this community and the men and women who make it up. I can't imagine holding to my views under this kind of bullying and going it alone.

Nomenimion · 2014-05-29T15:23:18+00:00

Why don't these hypocrites look at the online world of hating men? As usual, they hide behind a smoke screen of cute rhetoric and shameless double standards.

WomenAreAlwaysRigh · 2014-05-29T18:16:44+00:00

"MRAs daily stalk and harrass women"

wtf.

This just show what truly feminism is. A multimiliion dollar industry, aimed at putting a certain class of women (upper-middle, upper class) in higly payed and highly influential positions of society.

MattClark0994 · 2014-05-29T11:31:49+00:00

I'd expect nothing less from the most close minded, circlejerking, moronic, so called "news" organization.

shinarit · 2014-05-29T14:20:58+00:00

People, students, women. Typical usage of words.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2014-05-29T19:18:04+00:00

Wait. The video says he shot 3 women killing two, show Christopher Martinez and killed two cyclists with his car.

Maybe I missed it but they seem to be omitting a male victim, and they didn't identify the cyclists' gender, which happen to men.

Then they show the misogynistic elements of Roger's manifesto without showing the misandric/misanthropic parts.

After ignoring relevant information, then they can conclude he did this solely because he hated women.

Typical journalism.

holzy444 · 2014-05-29T14:33:52+00:00

Typical bullshit from the Mainstream media. I wonder how long /r/theredpill has before Reddit shuts it down.

PaulRivers10 · 2014-05-29T13:32:21+00:00

This is political gesturing. It just means that Men's Rights are not welcome on the American left. It was fairly obvious before, but after this most resent barrage of posturing, I'm willing to concede that it's just a political fact now. Men's Rights is right wing.

I see the same signals in Canada. I've never voted right before but I will be from now on. The left is determined to not listen and I don't see that changing.

SpikeNLB · 2014-05-29T19:53:03+00:00

I was beyond disappointed when I saw this segment on Chris Hayes the other night.

caxica · 2014-05-29T14:21:36+00:00

When will men realize that the authoritarian left hates you?

2014-05-29T15:11:04+00:00

The accusations against the MRM start at 3:15.

sillymod · 2014-05-29T21:39:03+00:00

The men's rights movement is made up of websites like /r/TheRedPill?

At what point did someone go, "Shit, if we tell them about /r/MensRights, they might look it up and see that these people aren't following the narrative we are making up, what website can I link them to instead?"

Skippy_the_guardsmen · 2014-05-29T22:12:15+00:00

Couldnt watch all of it. The media always blames men and guns. Screw the fact he was bat shit crazy. He had balls and a gun. Not like he wasnt rich enough so that if he was even close to sane he could have gotten a woman to sleep with him. Not like he he hit people with his car or something.

warsie · 2014-05-29T16:58:21+00:00

Well given some of our allies in the "Manosphere" its not surprising tht they'd conflate us with others......

Title	MSNBC describes the Men's Rights Movement, lol. Really, you need to see this.
Author	We_Are_Legion
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Date	May 29, 2014 10:35 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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