Equality in England: women to no longer have immunity from crimes committed "in the presence of, and under the coercion of" their husbands

aussietoads · 2014-01-17T13:01:58+00:00

A step in the right direction. Not only is this law discriminatory, being allowable to wives only, but if the statute is applied as a defense, the husband becomes a proxy defendant, even if not implicated in the offense.

Mitschu · 2014-01-17T13:50:57+00:00

Interestingly there was a call by some women to make it an available to all women not just married ones. I am glad the government has seen sense. Unlike the first Jury in the Pryce case.

2014-01-17T15:22:08+00:00

http://www.online-literature.com/dickens/olivertwist/52/

"It was all Mrs. Bumble. She would do it," urged Mr. Bumble; first looking round to ascertain that his partner had left the room.

"That is no excuse," replied Mr. Brownlow. "You were present on the occasion of the destruction of these trinkets, and indeed are the more guilty of the two, in the eye of the law; for the law supposes that your wife acts under your direction."

"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a ass- a idiot. If that's the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is, that his eye may be opened by experience- by experience."

accountantaccounts · 2014-01-17T16:10:12+00:00

The sad irony of course is even women who don't use this defence still get excused by the system if their husbands were involved...how many cases of joint child abuse by parents where the father gets life but the mother gets a slap on the wrist...

Lurker_IV · 2014-01-17T15:16:42+00:00

The still have the rule that women should be treated and sentenced more easily in the courts don't they.

Still it is a step in the right direction.

edit: I was referring to this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1311004/Judges-ordered-mercy-women-criminals-deciding-sentences.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7995844/Judges-told-be-more-lenient-to-women-criminals.html

http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/gender-disparity-in-criminal-court/

Fatpandasneezes · 2014-01-17T15:59:20+00:00

....I don't even understand how this could have been a law for so long....

Maik3550 · 2014-01-17T15:20:23+00:00

A small step but a step in the right direction, none the less :)

Nomenimion · 2014-01-17T16:33:42+00:00

Oh, her husband forced her to speed? What bullshit.

Who would be asinine to argue this in court?

Even more sadly, there were suckers on the jury who bought into this ridiculous sham.

JELLY__FISTER · 2014-01-17T20:53:01+00:00

So married women literally could not be held responsible for their actions? How was that not the most offensive thing ever to UK women?

Omni314 · 2014-01-17T21:57:55+00:00

Good. If of course there are women that are coerced by their husbands they can use the defence of duress like every other person.

iMADEthis2post · 2014-01-17T23:56:35+00:00

On the surface this doesn't seem like that much for the MRM as it doesn't directly affect men. What this does do however is go a long way to changing the current gender dynamics of our legal system. It also places accountability on women, now accountability is an expression of equality so this is also a benefit to women's rights. I am however going to wait and see how feminism actually acts about it.

RockFourFour · 2014-01-17T15:51:54+00:00

Ah, I'm glad they've finally stepped into the 20th century on this front.

2014-01-17T13:52:48+00:00

I'll let Dr. Farnsworth take it from here.

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-01-17T23:52:31+00:00

I'm shocked. The current UK government is usually such a bunch of feminist wankers.

Your_Bacon_Counselor · 2014-01-18T02:07:11+00:00

Just the idea that this existed is enough to blow my mind.

2014-01-18T04:43:44+00:00

If the situation was reversed and women comprised 90 percent of those jailed, don't you think there would be study after study after study examining how and why women are jailed more than men? Anyone want to bet the finds would all conclude there is a sexist bias in the system? Or that the government needs to put into place enforcement and laws that make sure men are punished at equal rates?

MWcrazyhorse · 2014-01-18T09:17:43+00:00

On route to equality.

AloysiusC · 2014-01-17T18:00:57+00:00

I bet the only reason they're abolishing it is because it's not fair on unmarried women or married lesbians who can't use this defense. Men? Huh? What about them?

chevalier_d_eon · 2014-01-17T14:26:33+00:00

Bout time too. I think they should legislate for men who are hen pecked by their wives however, as this seems to be much more of a current reality for many men.

Title	Equality in England: women to no longer have immunity from crimes committed "in the presence of, and under the coercion of" their husbands
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Date	January 17, 2014 12:43 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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