Is this the tone of voice we need?

Oncefa2 · 2021-01-22T16:33:19+00:00

I like the slide about LGBT issues.

Some woke types are already trying to say that gay people are the white men of the LGBT community. Which completely ignores the fact that homophobia has almost exclusively been targeted towards gay men instead of lesbian women. Both in history and today.

I mean there are places where being a lesbian is legal but being a gay man is punishable by death...

So much for "male privilege".

Blauwpetje · 2021-01-22T16:01:09+00:00

In general I'd say: beware of the 'motte and bayley', like from the other side: if you're for gender equality, you're a feminist. Of course, both feminism and the MRM know a lot of other important issues. But in this form I think it's okay, if only because feminism is normalized already while this is probably for many people a totally new way of looking at men's advocacy.

BCRE8TVE · 2021-01-22T15:05:58+00:00

Great way to share knowledge about little-known facts about reality.

Sorry ladies, your "women are the mostest persecutedest minorities ever in all of history under all categories" myth is just that, a myth. Time to wake up, smell the roses, and realise it's not all about you. If you want men to care about you, you'll have to care about men too.

A unilateral relationship where one side is expected to give unconditionally and the other side is never expected to give anything back is an abusive relationship.

You want men on board? You better start making it about "we" than just "me"

Phantombiceps · 2021-01-24T11:06:26+00:00

Politically, i hate this kind of maximal cutting of social issues into this group’s or that’s. In fact cutting a social system into pieces seen as issues can also obscure the larger picture and how it can be changed -quite deliberately. But ! As propaganda, i think this approach is psychologically clever, promising, and really worth trying out. Keep it up I say.

TheTinMenBlog · 2021-01-22T13:04:52+00:00

Hi all,

First of all apologies for uploading a similar post to yesterday, I just wanted to share how I’ve changed it following feedback.

It’s also a segue into a more important tip that I wanted to share, that I’ve found extremely useful as I slowly try to change the tone of voice and visual identity of men’s rights, for the better.

And that is (of course) that people just don’t like the word ‘men's rights’ – so we need to find a way of disarming the bigots who use this, by taking it out of our vocabulary too, at least until the point is made.

The truth is men's rights is the sum total of many other issues, that we a society care deeply and openly about. So the job is almost done for us.

When people question MRA; simply lead by asking if they care about the homeless, or violent crime, or suicide, early death, LGBT+ hate crimes, education, police violence – all of these are hugely popular causes and all of these overwhelmingly affect men.

If we can establish a conversation here we can leapfrog all the ‘progressives’ to truly advocate for all people, women, trans, non-binary and men. Reframing the narrative completely, to present them as the haters, who are out of touch, and us as those with genuine compassion.

I am writing a letter aimed at UK Government that is doing this right now (and will be asking for your help on). It talks openly about men's issues, but instead of saying 'men', it simply says ‘Group X’.

It unloads all the best information about the inequality experienced by ‘Group X’, bypassing the stigma of ‘men's rights’ completely, to allow the reader to make a clear and unprejudiced opinion – before pulling the carpet out from beneath them.

It’s profound (and disappointing) how much more people care when the label of ‘man’ is removed. And I think we can use this to our advantage to easily disarm those who use it against us.

Sources:

Homelessness, tinyurl.com/y5c2qqvz

Suicide, tinyurl.com/y3hqddk8

LGBT Hate Crimes, FBI tinyurl.com/y6ztvbu7

Police Brutality tinyurl.com/y2vw8okf

Images by Matt Collamer, Nik Shuliahin, Margaux Bellott, Sushil Nash

dontpet · 2021-01-22T18:47:10+00:00

That is just so moving. Thanks for the work you are doing.

DanteLivra · 2021-02-08T14:57:43+00:00

This might not be the insta account we deserve, but it is the one we need.

austin101123 · 2021-01-23T03:23:16+00:00

I feel like it would be better without the "really"s.

moonrider18 · 2021-01-24T22:40:12+00:00

I'd suggest adding links to your sources at the bottom, using tinyurl if necessary.

Oncefa2 · 2021-01-22T15:55:42+00:00

I wasn't a fan of the last one but this is a much better version of it. But I would say the last slide is a bit too "told you so" in a bad way.

turbulance4 · 2021-01-22T21:36:20+00:00

The first slide is slightly too strong. A random is not already an advocate, that would mean they are doing something to help men and boys. I would say most people already support men's rights (they just don't like the label)

KarenIsGae69 · 2021-01-28T19:37:33+00:00

Wow I care about all of these issues/g

SiriusAlGhul · 2021-01-31T19:42:23+00:00

It's sad that we have to use things such as pro-LGBT propaganda to get people to realize the other half of the world does, indeed, have their own problems related to their sex.

Goes to show they care more about 10% than about 50% of the world.

FesseEnChocolat · 2021-01-22T22:23:38+00:00

Please stop with those adds, if we're here, that means we alreaey realized what it reads. So please stop try to put them on the feminist - make advocate sub reddit, it might be a great tool to create a discussion

Title	Is this the tone of voice we need?
Author	TheTinMenBlog
Upvotes	422
Comments	56
Date	January 22, 2021 12:59 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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