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Korea: Over 50 percent of men in their 30s remained unmarried last year.

furchfur

September 29, 2021
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Title Korea: Over 50 percent of men in their 30s remained unmarried last year.
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furchfur

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Date September 29, 2021 8:23 AM UTC
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Comments

[–]furchfur[S] 101 points102 points103 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

South Korea's young men are fighting against feminism:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/21/asia/korea-angry-young-men-intl-hnk/index.html

In South Korea, there are more than a dozen women-only universities and
no male equivalent. Some of these schools offer courses in highly
coveted professions like law or pharmacy -- and as the country caps the
number of law students, the more places that go to women, the fewer
there are for men.

[–]boltz13 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Same in India lol. The best humanities, arts and languages colleges are women only. And the ones that are not, have 10% reservation for women despite women being a majority in all of them

[–]funkynotorious 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes women are almost equal to men in science as well. They are 51%

[–]Shaloog 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And also the 30% reservation for women in government and public sector jobs.

[–]Drayenn 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women only uni? Wtf that is next level

[–]DoubleTFan -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, colleges for only men. That'll sure result in a lot more of them getting married.

[–]dakotasundaybro 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is going to be the US in 10 years.

[+]DoubleTFan -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More room for your kids. You're welcome.

[–]ManofGod1000 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

MGTOW is a natural outcome of the rigged system so.......

[–]Glum-Pen-728 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If women wouldnt abuse men for "sexual advances", maybe men would offer women their companionship more often and they'd stop crying into boxed wine every night.

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 149 points150 points151 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

If anyone actually thinks Japan has the worst over the birth & marriage rates... take a small look @ South Korea. The State is a gynocentric/misandry filled discriminatory hellhole for men. There was even a cult like extremist female oriented group on that country that (somehow (!)) found their way onto the state politics

[–]Cao_Cao_2 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I fear a pop-up of cultic extremist female-oriented groups. They sound like secret societies or something men will have to fight. But we could probably handle it.

[+]mistrpopo -122 points-121 points-120 points 4 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

This must be the most inaccurate description of South Korea I have ever read.

[–]disayle32 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Explain how it's inaccurate.

[–]AndemianAndem1 89 points90 points91 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Korean here. It’s very accurate, feminism is fucking up everything, we have the lowest birth rates ever, and men are still the only ones dragged into the military. Speaking of the military, some soldiers even have to use the same water bottles from THE KOREAN WAR.

[–]Byroms 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Isn't there also a big problem with bullying going on inside the military?

[–]Reiwa_ 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please talk about it. It's big, but those old people are denying and bolloks young men for complaining. The same people advocating feminism and woke politics.

[–]Byroms 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I recently watched D.P. and it was pretty eye opening. Obviously a lot is dramatized but at the same time the cases felt quite real. In general from what I witnessed in korean TV shows, violence against your children and against your male lover seems to be getting played down as "character building" or something "cutesy". Which in itself is a problem. It gets transferred to the next level, where it's just normalized and okay to slap people as a disciplinary measure. That just creates an endless cycle of violence. Violence has been proven to be an ineffective measure of disciplinary action, it makes children act out more, not less. Young men take the brunt of the violence.

That is not to say that women don't have their own issues, especially in the entertainment industry. I don't think it's an either or, but issues that men face definitely need attention, too.

[–]AndemianAndem1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes.

[–]Reiwa_ 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude is in r korea, the place farthest away from Korean public opinion. Full of Moon-loving feminists, which both topics are highly controversial to say the least in Korea.

[–]someone_butnoone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yes. Being dragged into the military is bad, but a male centered army is more effective as male conbat teams almost always perform better than women teams

[+]mistrpopo -57 points-56 points-55 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

https://thediplomat.com/2019/06/gender-inequality-makes-south-korea-poorer/

According to the World Economic Forum, South Korea ranks 124 out of 149 countries in the world in terms of economic participation and opportunity for women.

South Korea ranks last in The Economist’s annual Glass Ceiling Index. It notes that among OECD countries South Korea has the largest pay gap at 35 percent.

Only 2 percent of South Korean firms’ corporate board of directors are female. Only one in 10 managerial positions in South Korea are held by women.

Women only make up 17 percent of the Members of the National Assembly. This places South Korea sixth from the bottom in the OECD.

[–]Grand_Ad_864 58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women choosing to stay home disproves misandry? Pay no attention to things like mandatory military service which puts men behind in their careers and things alike. Nah just one random metric with no explanation as to the reasons why it exists, like women's tendency to work less less hours.

"Women only make up 17 percent of the Members of the National Assembly" They also had a female prime minister. I wonder as to how high on the list they are of countries with female leaders. i cant remember Canada or the us ever having one.

[–]bufedad 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And yet you never ask why women don't participate... you assume its inequality against women rather than for.

[+]mistrpopo -40 points-39 points-38 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Well, you're deviating from the subject. I am refuting the idea that SK would be a gynocentric society, yet all people in position of power (government and private companies) are men. Are all these men actual puppets controlled by a powerful shadow women club?

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Having a majority-male government does not inherently mean the policy coming from that government favors men.

[–]furchfur[S] 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly: men are indotrinated from an early age to "put women first" and show preference for there well being. Men have been indoctrinated to sacrifice themselves for women.

Women are not taught and are not indoctrinated to put men first.

[–]bufedad 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Discrimination in favor of women would be expected in a gynocentric society.

[–]B_Boi04 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s almost like women are not interested in those particular jobs

[–]Reiwa_ 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well Choi Sun Shil was a thing lol

[–]disayle32 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And yet women are exempt from mandatory military service there. Why are they not fighting to give up this privilege?

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

meanwhile openly sexist and descriminatory feminist organization/cult could easily enter the state's policits; even recruit the daughters of officials families... and I am not even speculating

[–]Reiwa_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yoon Mi Hyang joins the chat

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So women as a group not being as successful as an extreme minority of men means misogyny? It's pretty one-sided.

Of course women will have problems, often even entitely different from the problems men face, but this sort of ignores what other people here ignore too.

The ambiguity of parallel problems. Everybody can face shit, and whether men or women have it bad somewhere cannot fully be measured simply by comparison.

[–]killcat 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's a classic apex fallacy, just because the majority of the .00001% are men it doesn't mean that men have it good.

[–]mistrpopo -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're the one doing a fallacy here, I never said that men have it good in Korea, in fact I'd agree with the opposite, but the idea that OP said that society is somehow controlled by women and that men's troubles are caused by women/feminists is definitely not true.

[–]killcat 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you're moving the goal posts:

>The State is a gynocentric/misandry filled discriminatory hellhole for
men. There was even a cult like extremist female oriented group on that
country that (somehow (!)) found their way onto the state politics

That is not saying that society is controlled by women, only that it prioritizes their happiness and welfare above men, and that a radical feminist group got some political power.

[–]__pulsar 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The World Economic Forum is not some unbiased organization. FFS look at the criteria they used. It's absurd.

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 35 points36 points37 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.koreascience.or.kr/article/JAKO201901435968448.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiC583yrKTzAhUr_7sIHYwqAG0QFnoECDkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2r1481AYdyqqKpHYWqNjZz

https://koreaexpose.com/megalia-south-korean-feminism-marshals-the-power-of-the-internet/

https://thediplomat.com/2021/07/how-feminism-became-a-dirty-word-in-south-korea/

http://m.koreaherald.com/amp/view.php?ud=20210504000923

https://m.kedglobal.com/newsAmp/ked202106040004

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-06-11/whats-size-got-to-do-with-it-the-pinching-hand-anti-feminist-backlash-drive-up-the-fever-pitch-of-south-koreas-gender-wars?_amp=true

https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=238520

The fact that radical misandrist feminist groups entered the government and politics is beyond comprehension

[–]liebestod0130 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

I seriously worry for the demographic collapse that is coming to many developed countries of the world...it's terrifying. And no one wants to deal with it because it could easily be framed in opposition to women's rights. Feminism and leftist politics are basically preventing us from solving the greatest catastrophe coming to our societies.

[–]TraumaJeans 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not like we're underpopulated, though the effect will be disproportionate (non-uniform across social groups) and for the wrong reasons

[–]furchfur[S] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You are right South Korea and Taiwan top of the list:

South Korea Babies born in each year

1980: 862,835

2000: 640,098

2020: 272,410

Lots of unemployed teachers now, and so it gets worse.

Unfortunately South Korea is not allowing much immigration so it looks like a slow death.

If you are an investor just be aware of the damage that a falling populartion will have.

[–]KingJama3957 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's horrifying

[–]CodeEmotional9593 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No worries, just more to a sane country.

[–]thescopeoflife -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I seriously worry for the demographic collapse that is coming to many developed countries of the world...

Then there's gonna be place for people from developing countries to come which will decrease poverty globally and fill the need for workers. What's the problem with that unless you're just scared there's not gonna be as many same-looking people in the future of developed countries, which is a ridiculous fear?

[–]grandwhitelotus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But what are u suggesting we do? Other than government helping people with housing, childcare or immigration I don’t think we can do anything else.

[–]liebestod0130 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, I don't think anything could be done to fix this problem on a governmental level. The ONLY way to get through it is if the country is able to realize economic and cultural conditions which would make young people want to have children and create families. That, alas, will not occur. Therefore, there will be a demographic collapse which will bring with it terrible economic and social problems. If the government tries to bring in immigrants (and it will have to bring in A LOT very fast!), this will also cause terrible social problems, due to cultural differences, racism, etc. Basically, get ready for very challenging times.

[–]Ellianel -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

The world is overpopulated now. To solve both problems people from Africa, India and China could move to less populated areas.

[–]Iceman_Hottie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A big issue is the cultural differences between the populations with people being not interchangeable on a population level. There is nothing outside of culture (engrained through 100s if not 1000s of years) that would have prevented those countries to be as advanced or even more advanced than current European countries. By simply putting culturally ill-equipped people into prosperous countries the country along with all of its prosperity will be destroyed simply due to miss management (lots of small errors stacking up, kind of like compound interest works; all of which would have a negligible effect on an individual basis).

[–]thescopeoflife 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing outside of culture (engrained through 100s if not 1000s of years) that would have prevented those countries to be as advanced or even more advanced than current European countries.

Pretty sure colonialism, imperialistic politics and geographical factors such as climate may also have had something to do with this.

[–]Iceman_Hottie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only if you don't look at the fact that former European colonies that embraced European values are much better off than the one's that didn't. Raw resource extraction does not bring nearly as much value as added skilled labour and good administration (and you can not extract either).

Compare India and Cambodia. Or North and South Korea (South Korea embraced European values). You can also compare Japan pre and post WW2, and how big of an economic boom it had since embracing European values. It may not be perfect, but historically it has been beneficial.

[–]thescopeoflife 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only if you don't look at the fact that former European colonies that embraced European values are much better off than the one's that didn't.

Because their economies still depend on the countries that colonized them.

Raw resource extraction does not bring nearly as much value as added skilled labour and good administration (and you can not extract either).

I agree, but there is a reason you can't start off with building good administration and skilled labour. Every country has gone through the same path to get to that point and some countries are actively prevented from being able to have skilled labour as a basis of their economy because of the factors I'd mentioned.

You can also compare Japan pre and post WW2, and how big of an economic boom it had since embracing European values.

Japan is going from one economic crisis to another and the hardworking culture that is pushed is clearly not good for the people based on the data we have.

[–]Iceman_Hottie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because their economies still depend on the countries that colonized them.

How does the economy of India depend on the UK? An argument could be made for that when India was a colony, now it is an independent nation and is capable of standing on its own and has been for decades. It is now on them to make something of themselves, and to an extent they are doing it. India has been making trade deals independent of the UK.

I agree, but there is a reason you can't start off with building good administration and skilled labour. Every country has gone through the same path to get to that point and some countries are actively prevented from being able to have skilled labour as a basis of their economy because of the factors I'd mentioned.

So what are the factors preventing the development of skilled labour and development of an efficient administration? You start where you are and through contious effort become better. If one considers only time invested African country's should be at the top of the economic hierarchy, simply due how long their ancestors inhabited the territory (having effectively a 10k+ years headstart). The question is why didn't they develop the skills and administrative efficiency rivaling that of Europe and be the one's with the empire?

The romantic idea of the noble savage, is nothing more than a delusion. African tribes enslaved each other throughout history (at a certain point what prevented Europeans from doing the same was malaria, and later it was the Europeans who were the ones to put pressure to stop the slave trade, majority of which both quantity of people and length of time went in to the ottoman empire; and you also don't see a population of descendents of slaves in countries that were part of the ottoman empire).

Japan is going from one economic crisis to another and the hardworking culture that is pushed is clearly not good for the people based on the data we have.

And they are a lot less significant compared to the famines they had before. A significant part of the issue in Japan and South Korea is the lack of cultural resilience when faced with maintaining efficiency. Sometimes it is beneficial to push through with a work project, however consistently overexerting oneself leads to burnout, leading to less efficientcy long term. In addition both cultures prioritise appearance over actual benefit (such as not leaving before your boss), which in turn devastates their birthrates even more than would be consistent with the trends regarding the standard of living vs birthrates (the higher the standard of living, the higher the cost of entry into family and adulthood, the lower the birthrates to compensate).

Interesting conversation by the way.

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is indeed overpopulated but no one with sane mind should accept and/or has to live with the clearly unwanted consequences of obvious states still continuing the whole problem!

[–]liebestod0130 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, if only managing the global population was as easy as cleaning and reorganizing your room or office to make it nice and tidy.

[–]Ellianel 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying that would be easy, it's just going to happen sooner or later.

[–]Ok_Raccoon_8052 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like what most people say, it solves it self since people will have less kids thanks to education/careers but that doesn't take into account all the immigration lol

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[–]Space_Exploring7_6 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, the is a saying in Spain that very wisely simplifies the reason why we men are this situation of "weakness" and you could roughly interpret it as follows "two tits pull more than two mules". Meaning the power of attraction that women exert over men is so great that it would seem we had bewitched...

That's our greatest weakness... In our young years, the female body, and in our adult years, the dream of a having a family...

But yeah, couldn't agree more on your advice... That's where they get their power from, especially when kids are involved... The strongest card in the deck is neither the king nor the queen, but the prince.

[–]furchfur[S] 55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Economist June 2021

A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE PROBLEMS:

Young men in South Korea feel victimised by feminism:

A conservative upstart appeals to them

WAS IT MERELY an innocent sausage? Last month a poster promoting camping kit sold by GS25,
a chain of shops in South Korea, included an illustration of two
fingers reaching out to grasp a steaming banger. Angry young men
complained. They said the detail, which resembled an emoji that depicts a
hand making a pinching gesture, was a hidden insult planted by
feminists. As everyone knows, the symbol is commonly used when mocking
the size of a man’s penis. One critic was especially outspoken. “Why on
earth would the sausage have to be there and who would eat a hot sausage
with their fingers?,” said Lee Jun-seok. “We deserve an explanation.”

On June 11th Mr Lee was elected leader of South Korea’s main opposition party, the People Power Party (PPP).
At 36 he is the youngest person ever to lead a South Korean political
party. His election marks an effort to rejuvenate the conservative
outfit ahead of the presidential poll next year, though Mr Lee is not
himself old enough to be eligible for that job. Among his biggest fans
are men in their twenties who feel victimised by South Korea’s
increasingly vocal feminist movement.

South Korea scores poorly on measures of equality between the sexes. The
“glass-ceiling index” compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit, a
sister company of The Economist, rates it the worst rich
country in which to be a working woman. Many women suffer discrimination
and harassment. Creeps use hidden cameras to snap pictures of them in
bedrooms and public toilets. That culture ruins lives, according to a
report issued on June 16th by Human Rights Watch, an international
monitor.

Many young men take a different
view. In a survey conducted in 2019 some 60% of men in their twenties
said that discrimination against women was not a serious issue. More
than two-thirds said that unfairness towards men was the big problem.
They said they felt disadvantaged by South Korea’s marriage culture, job
market, and the application of its laws. Compulsory military service,
which applies only to men, is a particular grievance. “We have to
compete against women after sacrificing 22 months for the country,” says
a 25-year-old surnamed Jung. “We just want compensation for our
sacrifice.”

Mr Lee has railed against radical feminism. He said the ruling party
performed poorly in mayoral elections in April because it focused too
much on pleasing female voters and had “underestimated” young males. He
has promised to abolish quotas for women in the PPP and
wants to restore “fairness” to the political process by using tests to
choose his party’s candidates. This appeals to many young men, more than
three-quarters of whom voted for the conservatives in the recent
mayoral election in Seoul. “Most of my friends feel discriminated
against in some way and that’s why we support Lee Jun-seok,” says Mr
Jung. “It’s not about anti-feminism, it’s about fair competition.”

Mr Lee graduated from Harvard and worked for an education startup but
has never held public office. He may struggle to find more policies that
can unite his young fans with his party’s older and crustier
supporters. These include evangelical Christians with a penchant for
conspiracy theories whom many in the PPP find
embarrassing. His idea to make party members compete for nominations by
taking exams in skills such as drafting power-point presentations is
unlikely to fly, reckons Choi Jin-bong of Sungkonghoe University. His
ambition to abolish quotas for women and young people will irk other
party leaders, some of whom are young women.

Yet Mr Lee’s youth and novelty may prove powerful assets. The PPP
has changed its name twice since losing power four years ago after a
corruption scandal toppled Park Geun-hye, the previous president. Until
recently it had shown no appetite to renew itself any more than that. A
conservative landslide in the mayoral elections suggests voters are
souring on the leftish government of President Moon Jae-in, which has
been damaged by scandals of its own and delays to vaccinations against
covid-19. Mr Lee’s popularity will aid whomever the PPP nominates to run for the presidency next year—among some male voters, at least. Women may find him less impressive

[–]TryLambda 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are smart men, they are living free! who needs a ball and chain!

[–]FatherGascOwn 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There should really be a more "vicious" anti-feminism movement. Real propaganda on how toxic it is, exposure of platform that men's rights and favour misandry, I mean REALLY go public and hard on feminism. Give us back the respect we deserve.

[–]CodeEmotional9593 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They practice female infanticide and then complain the country is a sausage fest and men are treated like shlt. Go figure. They have deeper problems than the west.

[–]Leather-Brick-1145 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We're talking about S. Korea, not China you inbred fuck...

[+]DoubleTFan -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you need propaganda for it, you don't deserve respect.

[–]Cao_Cao_2 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ain't nothing wrong with propoganda

[–]Reiwa_ 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Korean youth are one of the most depressed and hopeless people I have seen. Poor sods, they deserve better.

People are scared in public transport, if some random women would try do harm to them or frame them for sexual assault, since both the cops and the court are extremely politicised and decedant.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chosun.com/national/national_general/2021/09/23/TVZIVDMSKBFO3CV7LJIRWZJDHM/%3foutputType=amp

Recently, a father was beat by a drunk woman on sidewalks, but he couldn't do anything because of the fear of that woman filing up counterlawsuits of sexual assault for touching her. So this poor sod was being beat up in front of his family for like minutes. The women has no plan to apologise, neither do I expect any punishmemt against her because punishing women for any reason is misogyny amirite?

They are being bombarded by the most crooked and vile conscription system, decedant cops who just arrest people with little hard evidence just to rack up points, crooked court that takes testimonies as hard evidence just because it is being told by women, and high social expectations of scarificing eveything.

Korea is your guide to how not to run a country. It had lot of potential until a few years ago when series of senile politicians ruined the country and has left a divided country with no compassion.

At the same time, I'm happy that foreigners are looking onto this issue with concern. There are nothing that Koreans care more than foreign opinion, so please do keep conversing and pressure Korea to change its gynocentric ways.

[–]PricklyGoober 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As much as I like to bitch about mandatory male-only conscription in my country (Singapore), I really do not believe our conscription is even comparable to yours. If I’m not wrong, don’t the conscripts not get to see their families for extended periods of times (whereas here in Singapore, most of us get to go home at least on the weekends)?

[–]DecimatingDarkDeceit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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...and continuation to your comment; the korean youth have been put to the most excruciating, cruel, outright abusive so-called ''education'' system where they literally wake up at 5/6 pm than spent their entire day on the schools as well as other extra-educational facilities until 3 a.m at the middle of night... than they have to go back to their homes (after doing all the meanial chores in their schools) and do 'homework' at the middle of the night until very earliest morning... there are also 'exams' that require even further 'education'

These people are not treated like humans they are treated like machine drones. The female students have the most fortune as the affirmative action and gender bias exist to their favour where the male students... have nothing but constant depression and tired existence

[–]Deckardisdead 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. Keep it up guys.

[–]CrossfadeAMV 63 points64 points65 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just go through the comments and do the "patriarchy" bingo

[–]enigma2shts 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For good reasons. As for me I have no wants to marry in america . Seems like wayy too much risk

[–]Royal_IDunno 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are smart

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is tagged as 'feminism' but the article doesn't mention feminism at all and blames the lack of marriage on the economy.

"Many young South Koreans are opting to distance themselves from life's three major milestones ― dating, marriage and having children ― because they cannot find decent jobs amid a protracted economic slowdown and skyrocketing home prices."

[–]Individual-March8163 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article itself is tagged as "lifestyle"

[–]furchfur[S] 75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

This is 100% caused by feminism and feminist policies.

The role of women has changed in South Korea.

They are the majority of graduates by a huge margin.

Women are in competition with men for jobs and places at University.

The role of men has not changed one iota. They still have to do military service. Companies still want them to dedicate their lives to a job. They are expected to support a family by working 14 hours a day. Women are put first by society. A lot of work policies only apply to women to make there lives easier. Men not so much.

Men never get custody of children in divorce and women do not want them to have custody.

The male gender is humiliated in the media and even politics.

https://koreaexpose.com/megalia-south-korean-feminism-marshals-the-power-of-the-internet/

The country is a mess. Overall in my opinion it is men who have given up on marriage and children. No one can blame them either.

[–]hehimCA 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. I don’t know a whole lot about South Korea so this is sad but good to know.

[–]wootangAlpha 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing about feminist ideas is that it requires men to be displaced in order to work. I suppose the early lies of "women in the workplace" was skyrocketing productivity because two heads are better than one. It never happened. In fact, most fields have seen a steady decrease in "meaningful" output. Then men get smeared in absolute crap with the most sadistic, ass backwards, word bending....just read this shit yourself

"In all, they found that about 80% of faculty have children. But men in academia are more likely to be parents than their female counterparts, suggesting that some mothers opt out of careers in higher education altogether to focus on their kids."

That makes sense right? This is from a reputable website

[–]HIVnotAdeathSentence 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Korea, there are more pets than there are children.

[–]bfte2 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have to wonder.... when it reaches critical mass, how will the weirdos and the media try to spin it?

"GET MARRIED, or ELSE!!!...."?

[–]Selfmade_3127 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

we know from genetic analysis that the ratio of female ancestors to male ancestors averaged over the whole history of humanity is 2:1 ... that means that different women have mated with the same men ... 80% of women procreate but only 40% of men procreate ... the selection pressure on men is extremely high ...

corollary: how do you call it, when I take 100 female and 100 male wolves ... and then select 40 male wolves following certain criteria for procreation and kill the other 60 male wolves? ... if you said "selective breeding" the you're right ... women are breeding us for millions of years ... then tossing us into the dogpits of society ... where we have to work and fight for resources and a place at the top ... then again breeding with the best and tossing the male offspring into the dogpits again ... over and over ...
we men, turned out *EXACTLY* how women want us to be ... millions of years of choosing fathers of their children ... we are the epitome of female dreams and choices ...

so if a woman ever dares to question you or your masculinity ... remember that they have created you ... they have created men ... EXACTLY how they wanted them to be ... you are not ugly ... you are perfect ! ... your Y-Chromosome is thousands of years old ... it survived hundreds of female decisions to be chosen as mate and father ... you are by definition ... a champion by the votes of all women who lived before ... so damn ... ACT LIKE ONE!

[–]CodeEmotional9593 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That't doesn't change the fact that men pre-select women. I am very picky and wouldn't sleep with 9/10 women. The 1/10 left then gets to decide if she'll "choose" me.

[–]The_Dollars_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Korean dudes, everything ok over there ?

[–]Xx24reminder 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The whole of Korea Is screwed up

[–]The_Dollars_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you from Korea ?

[–]Xx24reminder 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No,but I'm seeing what's going on over there. Oppressive control,Censorship, and a whole Lotta misandrists

[–]reddut_gang 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if anyone gets mad at these men, I have to ask, why? It's their choice to not get married. Do you propose forced marriages instead?

[–]CodeEmotional9593 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They really gotta step into the 21st century. Life is not about "marrying" someone. Date FFS. And stop the female infanticide. That's why Korea is a matriarchal sausage fest.

[–]InsuranceNo2501 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Smart lads

[–]pfizerface 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not just Korea

[–]drgonzo17 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

America here and I'll be damned if it ain't almost the same. Kinda like hopelessness has seeped into our sperm, I wish I could sit back and watch the world burn.

[–]gratis_eekhoorn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good for them, Korean men seem smart

[–]DotNetDeveloperDude 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

The article says 42% but the title says 50. Hmm

Edit: I didn’t realize one percentage was a combined percentage and that for men it really is over 50%. OP is right.

[–]furchfur[S] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

By gender, 50.8 percent of men in their 30s remained unmarried, while single women accounted for 33.6 percent.

42% is the average for both genders

[–]DotNetDeveloperDude 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah ok thank you

[–]remmbermytitans -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with feminism and/or men's rights? The article is pointing out that more educated women are opting to not be married. And that single men over 30 are at 50% unmarried, and that single women over 30 are at 33% unmarried. There are so many possible reasons for this.

For starters: https://www.statista.com/statistics/642502/south-korea-sex-ratio-age-group/

There are just more men, 106 to 100 females in Korea, so even if you paired up every single male, there are just gonna be more men and not enough females. And in fact, the trend gets worse for men in their 20s-29s. Additionally, this is what happens as more people in general get educated, more and more people opt not to get married or have kids or whatever, because they don't want to go through that stuff. This is just the way the developed world is trending.

If someone can explain to me why this is feminism's fault and how this stat is relevant to men's rights, I'd love to hear it. Please keep it civil. Thanks.

[–]SuicidalWageSlave -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why is this a men's rights issue? What if they don't want to be married?

[–]CodeEmotional9593 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a backward society like India or China. They think it takes marriage to get laid. The only other way is prostitution which is how most young men in these societies lose their virginity but they can't afford it.

[–]SuicidalWageSlave -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, that's more of a society rights issue and not a men's rights issue

[–]bbyblu666 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

why r u guys always talking about how women are evil so marriage is a trap but then get angry that men aren’t getting married “because of feminism” isn’t this what you were advocating for..

[–]bbyblu666 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And why on earth is an article about men not being married tagged feminism

[–]DontSetOnMe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There was never a marriage or birth rate issue when women didn't work, now that they do, there is. The glaringly obvious solution is men would become homemakers. The glaringly obvious problem is women don't want men who are homemakers. You can blame social media or culture or college or whatever, but the bottom line is simple. Women who work are now going to be even more selective than they already were, a much smaller portion of men will have children, and a much larger portion of women and men will go childless. Nobody is wrong here. It's simply an adjustment. Think of it this way, if every woman was extremely heavy, there would be tons of men who would rather die alone than marry them. Tons. This is the equivalent. There are now a ton of men making less money and girls are saying nope, I'd rather live alone and holdout for a better guy.

[–]DavidByron2 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Refers only to the US occupied part of Korea of course.

[–]furchfur[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is true. The demographic plan of the South is to absorb the north. That will solve their demographic problems. What if the north absorbed the south?

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