So let me preface by saying I don't consider myself a "redpill" dude nor a FDS ally/lurker, and since I'm still quite new to all this pills and sexual strategies stuff I don't know if this topic has been properly adressed before, if so my apologies.
So, to the point, I've seen people here equating the AF-BB female strategy with the Madonna-Whore male complex, stating that both are adaptative forms of the same strategy for each gender.
And I thought, why not conflating both in a bigger scheme, since both genders mold each other behaviours and sexual strategies through interactions with the other gender right? So this is what I wrote in another thread where a redditor and I were talking about this stuff.
If something like the Madonna-Whore complex exists in men, I dare to say it only exists as a byproduct of the dualistic sexual strategy of women (what redpilers call AF-BB).
I mean, if the Madonna is to women what a Beta is to men, then the key difference between both lays in that nothing prevents women to become the Whore in bed with the man they love but their sole disgust threesold, while for a Beta man there are several obstacules that hold him back from becoming an Alpha. If women were as sexual within the confines of a relationship with an average man as they are with the most sexual attractive men they have NSA sex with, all men would be happy to fulfill the role of the Beta.
Of course, female dualistic sexuality wasn't a problem where it was socially and culturally covert, but now with the internet phenomena women's sexuality has become quite mainstream and of common knowdelege. It's inevitable that men are going to seek what other men have, and this feeling of missing out has put a stain on the lust-less relationships average men have with their sexually apathetic women.
That's when men develop this "Madonna/Whore" complex, when they realize there is a world outside their relationships full of sexual pleasures they are missing out or can't experiment.
Of course, I don't think this is a psychological complex but more than a epiphany men who are blind to the true women's sexuality have later in life. Marriage is not the place where you have the porn-like "experimental" sex your wife had with previous partners, and this is a harsh realization for most men. This is where this "complex" steems from.
I'm talking here, however, from personal experience. I've seen this dinamic play in different people (specially men) and take a tool on lots of relationships. It happened to me long time ago, where I had to break up with a girl because I was feeling sexually unsatisfied, and even here and there I have recurrent feelings of missing out because of my relationship with my now fiance, and mind you, I'm a guy who has been around quite a lot.
I know some male friends who cheat on their wives because of this reasson too, specially the ones who were not that successful (sexually speaking) when they were young. Other men even blow up their relationships on purpose to set themselves free of commitment and run around playing with their options.
So let me know your thoughts...
PS: I know, my english sucks but give me a break, it's my third lenguage, I'm still learning.
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Edit: as a corollary, I do believe religious men can develop a severe MW complex on the traditional freudian sense, since they can hold some sexual fantasies they can't confess to their wives for religious purpose.
Edit 2: when adressing the Madonna-Whore complex phenomena I was trying to discuss the version of it PPD redditors propose, which is some kind of gender transpolation of the AF-BB dichotomy in the male psyche. I'm aware this differs a lot from the original freudian complex, but I'm not a psychologist and I'm not trying to discuss that.
Edit 3: this is such a mess hahaha so much angry people around here.
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