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Artist 'broken' after judge rules copyright of HER work must be shared in divorce | Finally, they got a taste of their own medicine.

GppleSource

October 27, 2021
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Title Artist 'broken' after judge rules copyright of HER work must be shared in divorce | Finally, they got a taste of their own medicine.
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GppleSource

Upvotes 1385
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Date October 27, 2021 3:03 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
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[–]NoMarriageNoKids 335 points336 points337 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Oh, wah! "I want half of husband's stuff but don't want him to get any of mine!"

Must be from FDS.

[–]kACID0 116 points117 points118 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Bro I was thinking of reposting this shit on FDS with a caption like "I love the smell of equality in the morning" ... but then I realized I will probably get insta banned and I like using some of their retarded posts in memes

[–]Corbenik42 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yah, what the other guy said. You're almost certainly auto-banned now that you've commented on this sub. They have a bot that monitors this sub and others and perma-bans any account that posts or comments on them - even once- from their sub.

[–]DKlurifax 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Amd how funny is it that nothing happens to the sub even though auto banning is against reddit TOS.

[–]Bobthemime 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They have an admin on the moderator staff..

Doesnt matter you are breaking the rules when the one meant to uphold them works at the place breaking the rules

[–]00DaveTV 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The hallmark of any healthy group

[–]NoMarriageNoKids 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You probably are already banned. You still still visit the site and screenshot their BS. I do.

[–]Randomcat32 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds of the Adel thing where she hid assets and it ripped her a new one at court cause of it. One article read "This isn't' what we meant by equality!" Of course I already knew that, their equality isn't ever about true equality.

[–]Lenzar86 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, what's FDS?

[–]SurlyMcBitters 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Female dating strategy

[–]Lenzar86 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I just went and looked there. I appear to be banned.

[–]SurlyMcBitters 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Wear that ban with pride.

[–]Dmopzz 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Banned a long time ago. God forbid a dissenting view may grace their sub.

[–]NoMarriageNoKids 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Just being male gets you banned. Their rules specifically state that men are not allowed to participate. Not sure how they get away with being openly sexist. It's a female supremacy sub where they coach women on how to abus, manipulate, and take advantage of men.

[–]Randomcat32 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well reddit rules pretty much say men, more so White Men, are open season. Brought to you by the same people who scream equality all the time.

Reddit also allows CCP bots and shills go rampant. Now they are introducing new ways to block speech here and make it more safes pace on reddit. Also going to allow people to post on post older then 6 months, can't wait to get a stupid reply from something I said a long time ago..

[–]kykyshmidt -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How do they abuse manipulate and take advantage of men?

[–]NoMarriageNoKids 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Go spend 30 minutes on the sub and all your questions shall be answered.

[+]kykyshmidt -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see threats about rape. I don't see where a woman is abusing a man when she is the one getting raped? You really have to explain to me where they are taking advantage of men, manipulating, using and abusing men and what they do in order to do that.

[–]Aakao25 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never even knew that sub existed and I'm banned. Good shit.

[–]u_Adi 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lmao same.

[–]crypt0dax 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists and Delusional Simpletons

[–]Vvvrrrt 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A shitshow you want to avoid at all costs

[–]iostream64 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm a part of FDSpros, super amusing.

And also really sad.

But the term scrote is amusing

[–]Aakao25 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's wrong, McFly? You got no scrote?

[–]kykyshmidt 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is FDS pros?

[–]iostream64 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Satire group that pretends to agree with the more insane talking points of FDS

[–]Bansky99uk 296 points297 points298 points 4 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link

The article says

"she had disengaged from the court process because she was emotionally “broken”, and did not feel her ex-husband was trying to negotiate a fair deal."

So she basically fucked up by ignoring the legal side of things and failed to contest the claims. Its a classic "I feel that." She just thought she could ignore it and it would all go away.

The ex-husband "admitted in court that he wanted copyright to continue reproducing paintings to sell and derive a future income stream." So what? he wants to get income over an asset he partly owns?

“Where do you draw the line when it comes to something that comes out of your brain?"

Imagine your.. Jeff Bezos and you dream up an online store .. is that your personal intellectual property ? nah, not when you're a guy.

[–]dingoperson2 93 points94 points95 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The ex-wife admitted in court she wanted the property to sell it and derive monetary gains from its increase in value”

Just something not usually seen in news articles

[–]Bayonethics 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This reminds me of that case with Adele, where she had to give like $100 million to her exhusband because she earned it while they were married and he was legally entitled to it. Some people got assmad about that for sure

[–]GreatOneLiners 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly I think that was false, they got the numbers wrong because her net worth was like 140 million at the time.

[–]y_nnis 42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Imagine you're Gates.

[–]SexlessNights 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Open or closed? what type of hinge? Strap? Butt?

[–]GppleSource[S] 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No need to imagine because it already happening

[–]ChrisInDetroit2020 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course the fact that Jeff Bezos' ex got something like 100 Billion dollars in their divorce says otherwise.

There are a lot of stupid and/or misinformed comments on Reddit, this is really in the top 5%. You don't even have to pay much attention to REAL news and information to know this.

[–]HKatzOnline 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You could say that pretty much everything "comes out of your brain".

[–]DoucheyCohost 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Devil's Advocate here, but Jeff Bezos and his wife started the original Amazon website together. It's not like she just sat back and let him work.

[–]GppleSource[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't mean anything lmao. She's not even a high level executive or investor

[–]zamonto 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

wtf are you talking about? that makes bezos wife more eligable to rights than in the example posted here? the husband in this example had literally nothing to do with making these paintings.

[–]LokisDawn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How do you know that? That's not what he says, at least.

[–]zamonto -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not what his lawyer tells him to say anyways

[+]REDDIT_APP_IS_TRASH -49 points-48 points-47 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Bezos doesn't even deserve 1% of what he has so his greedy ex taking half is good tbh

[–]Buscemis_eyeballs 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Why, he set up and executed the world's largest business that's in demand by virtually every American.

How are you deciding what he "deserves"

[+]yungdumbbrokecam -28 points-27 points-26 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Anyone with the money or power to end homelessness in their home country that doesn't...Well, they deserve a fat kick in the nuts for being a greedy prick.

[–]GreatOneLiners 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

End homelessness? Have you actually seen what happens when cities and states throw money at the homeless crisis? It only really helps like 50%, the other 50% refuse help

[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVP 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously.

People refuse to accept that many homelessness people are homeless because of the decisions they make. Throwing money at that won't solve it.

[–]yungdumbbrokecam -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

False

[–]GreatOneLiners 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

True, try to look it up next time, this isn’t some debate

[–]yungdumbbrokecam -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bezos could literally buy or build a home and provide a job for all 500k homeless people in the USA with his 200 billion (and growing) and still live like the 1%, just not like the 0.01%. You're kidding yourself if you think he can't.

How can he employ half a million people: Infrastructure projects. The US sorely needs to invest in its own infrastructure anyway. He has the money, connections, power, etc. to do it.

[–]Mythandros 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't get to decide what others spend their money on. That's an extremely entitled attitude to have.

While yes, it would be nice if he helped out, he's under no obligation to do so. It's his money, not yours. If you ever become as rich as Bezos (Hahaha, as if.) it will be YOUR choice what you use your own money on.

Until then, keep your entitled opinions to yourself. Thanks.

[–]LearnProgramming7 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wrong sub for that 'anti-rich people' shilling bs hombre

[+]REDDIT_APP_IS_TRASH -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao dude is just a giant mooch on the grandest scale.

[–]mikebenb 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, as are a lot of women when it comes to divorce time and nobody bats an eyelid. She's expecting different treatment to that norm and it's not gone well for her. Maybe she should blame all the female mooches for setting the standard.

[–]LearnProgramming7 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol k.

[–]tommiertregur -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dunno why people are disagreeing with you lol. Do people seriously think that Bezos worked hard enough to earn even 2 billion usd? Give me a break, the guy does nothing but exploit workers who don't earn enough to live.

[–]Bansky99uk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well he is credited as the "Founder and Executive Chairman of Amazon" while scott is listed as an early employee.

[–]OracleofFl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They had an amicable divorce settlement and ended putting the majority of their Amazon stock into a trust for their future generations. Jeff controls the shares in his lifetime. It was more than could be spent in their lifetime. As long as majority of Jeff's shares were put in a trust for the kids they had together and not any future kids he has with "that whore", she didn't care. As long as he had voting control, he didn't care either. She married a school teacher!

[–]jimicus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It goes a step further:

He said he preferred a “clean break”, but after advice from intellectual property specialists he believed the copyright alone could potentially be worth “in the millions”.

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“I’m not after the money, all I want is a fair outcome.”

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He believed Alalääkkölä was a wonderful artist, and they worked as a team in the family business until “it just fell apart”.

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“The copyright was something that was created while we were together.”

Call me intuitive, but I'm going to hazard a guess that the family business involved her artwork. This is therefore essentially the judge splitting the family business so both get a share.

[+]Largemacc -18 points-17 points-16 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

How does he partly own her paintings?

[–]wesk74 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How does a woman partly own half of her husband's pension after 20 years when he worked 30 to get it? Plus she never set a foot inside the factory? Explain the difference to me.

[–]GreatOneLiners -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You really don’t know the difference between someone’s pension and someone making paintings? One is created independently and one supports the family as a whole. The work itself is different and when it comes to artistic value pricing can change with the wind which makes it incredibly hard to put value on it

[–]wesk74 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So the revenue from the artwork didn't support the family during their 20 year marriage? A pension from a single persons work is created just as independently as any other work. The cost of living changes everyday, a pension is a negotiated fixed rate. Having to give half away almost always forces the worker back to another job. How do you not see this as an equal rights issue? The idea behind shared assets in a divorce is to maintain the same quality of life after a split. They type of work doesn't change the rules.

[–]GreatOneLiners -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s nowhere near an equal rights issue, condoning it is just continuing to support the problem that men face in the same situation.

Paintings and things of that nature a completely separate from white-collar and blue-collar jobs, people can spend their whole life not making a dollar and people could sell their pieces from millions apiece after 30 years of hard work, I don’t think anyone should take advantage of their spouses hobby turned career especially when they were doing it way before they got married

[–]wesk74 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's all well and good, but the problem is she is an established artist with a established revenue stream. Also her studio, print sales and events were ran as a family business with him, so it's been established that he is inolved in her art. From the looks of it he was running large parts of her business. You keep trying to separate the two, but revenue is revenue. If his job was working for her and managing parts of her business that was the income he relied on to live. Now they are split, why does he have to go penniless. Especially if he most likely gave up his career to further hers. It sounds like the judge giving him rights to sell prints she painted while they were married was the most fair way to divide assets.

[–]CentralAdmin 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How did Mackenzie Scott partly own Bezos' fortune?

[–]GreatOneLiners 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

From a simple Internet search it looks like she worked with him for a number of years on Amazon

[–]CentralAdmin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure. But a few billion dollars worth? If she can make a few billion in that instance, surely a spouse getting a bit for some art is fair.

[–]Bansky99uk 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He finacially supported her when she made them and was involved in the creation of them on an artistic level. Besides, even if he was not, the paintings are communal marital property, which included the copyrights

[–]OwenWentFullMGTOW 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Amy Irving contributed basically nothing to Steven Spielberg's films and subsequent success.

And yet, her divorce settlement set records at the time with nary a peep from them.

[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVP 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

They probably said that she emotionally supported him. Same goes here then.

[–]DKlurifax 156 points157 points158 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Good. This isn't any different from a woman getting half of man's business he created while they were married.

[–]GreatOneLiners 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean doesn’t it state in the article that she created her work prior to being married? I think the only thing she actually did while they were married was copyright her work, which is probably her fault but she didn’t do it sooner.

[–]firebearhero 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lol dont talk when you dont know anything mate. cooyright isnt something you apply for. you dont go out somewhere to copyright your work. everything you create you are automatically given copyrights for. you can transfer this right to others, you can renounce it, etc, but you cant apply for it.

if you know so little about something stop making claims about it you knobhead

[–]Floopflarp1 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So rude

[–]ForemostPanic62 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It said she had the skill to create the work prior to being married.

[–]WornBlueCarpet 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sirpa Elise Alalääkkölä says “other artists should be worried” about their personal brand and the ramifications of a precedent-setting case...

Oh? Does she mean like male artists, such as musicians, should be worried that their talentless wives can do the same when they are divorced?

[–]kACID0 82 points83 points84 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I love the smell of equality in the morning...

[–]Floopflarp1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s bad when a woman does it but not the other way around?

[–]eeveeandabsol 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true, it is bad, but now that true equality is happening, something may be done to finally fix it.

[–]Bansky99uk 115 points116 points117 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

The thing is...the really funny thing is that her husband probably supported her when she was in art school and stood by her before she became successful with her art. Every dollar earned by either partner in a marriage is owned 50:50 :)

What is it that they say, without your wife husband's support, you would never have earned all that money so she he is entitled to..

[–]Bobthemime 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

there was a follow up on the marriage elsewhere that said exactly this.

The husband supported her when she was a struggling artist and paid for the supplies and canvas and even provided inspiration.. she is now acting as if he commissioned her to make her paintings but didnt pay her, so it should default to her..

[–]Bansky99uk 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These Boho types always need support, either from partners or the state.

It takes time to become good enough to produce work that people are willing to pay for. I get that, I really do.

BUT if a wife is entitled to half of everything during a divorce because its communal property and she enabled him to earn the cash through her support then it goes both ways.

[+]zamonto -17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

thats bullshit tho if you read the article. she had already aquired the skills before the relationship started.

[–]p3opl3 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Which is crazy to me.. it's like. People who studied to be engineers or business men.. get married use those skills and make a ton.. all of a sudden some how that's justification for not splitting the bill.. haha fucking laughable.

[–]zamonto -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Id say that intellectual property and copyrights are very different from owning a business... I was just responding to the comment above

[–]p3opl3 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're mistaken. Intellectually property and copyright are exactly that - property/rights/royalties belonging to an entity, i.e a business or person. A marriage contract is a business contract - people don't understand this. They confuse vows and a party with a contractual obligation and exit clauses.

She's claiming she put her soul into that work and it has sentimental value that should only benefit her. Her art came from inspiration and emotion both of which a spouse would have much to be responsible for, not all but much. She's confusing the value she gives her art to the value that other people are willing to part with to own that art. One is emotional and cannot be divided(no one's taken the emotional value from her) the other is very much easily divisible.

[–]Bansky99uk 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...and without her husband's financial support she would have been forced to work a normal job like everyone else. She used marital finances and resources to do her art so it belongs to the both of them.

Look if I am married and then I go and buy bitcoin at $1 and then sell it at $65K, my wife is entitled to half of the profits because the initial $1 was a marital asset. Works the same here. To argue that she can just pay him back for the materials is like me giving my wife her $1 and keeping the profits.

[–]CazRaX 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He supported her by paying for supplies that allowed her to make the works in question, not to mention he payed the bills as well, you know the same things wives do that enable them to take half of what the man makes? Remember, the men already had the skills, the talent was there just like with this artist.

[–]zamonto -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure what you mean here... I might just be reading it wrong, but what is the same as wives do?

[–]Bansky99uk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They take money in a divorce based on the increased earnings of the husband even if they did not have a hand in him acquiring that skill.

The difference here is that the husband supported her work financially and artistically as well.

[–]GreatOneLiners 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where does it state that, I’m serious? Did you look it up where did you find it?

Or is this just an assumption? I mean if he did support her while she was in school that would make much more sense, but I don’t see anything in here that indicates that.

[–]stayoffmygrass 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well good for him! When I got divorced the first time - everyone including my own lawyer thought I was nuts for asking for half interest in the plays and music she created while we were married and for which she was receiving royalties. We spent @ $100k in recording studio time and other things.

Every time one of her plays is performed she is getting $5k to $10k.

I still feel I was robbed. She did make a run for my 401(k), pension and social security benefits but was denied.

[–]shroominglion 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no !

Anyway…

[–]redditistrash27 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She has 6 As and 4 Ls in her name, that’s kinda neat.

[–]Amunium 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

FYI, ä and a are completely different letters. Although being a kiwi she probably doesn't pronounce it like that.

[–]redditistrash27 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Neat

[–]Donut-Farts 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Neät

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[–]Amunium 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh? Why would it be racist?

It means she's from New Zealand. Her name looks Finnish, but she doesn't live in Finland and speaks English with an accent that's more Kiwi than Finnish, so she probably doesn't say the name in its intended Finnish pronunciation.

[–]freman 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Artists fear what this means for their intellectual property while in a relationship, and an academic warns the decision has significant implications that undermine a person’s moral right for personal expression

Uh no, women artists fear, male artists are used to it

[–]M3mph1s 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

But, like, does that really make it right? If you painted then got divorced, why should they get half? If you studied to be a doctor, then get divorced, I don’t understand what justifies taking literally any of that for the old partner. I understand child support because it’s not a child’s fault, but I’ve never really got why the poorer partner should get money from the richer one. Prenups people.

[–]CazRaX 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

It's not fair anymore but it will not change until women have to deal with it too. So until it changes I will support every husband that takes half in a divorce, each one is one step closer to removing these old and unneeded laws.

[–]M3mph1s -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Your proposed solution to "this sucks for everyone, more often men than women" is "fuck everyone, fuck them all, especially the women?" Something like "removing these old and unneeded laws" seems like a far better solution. I agree the system more often fucks men, but that's not the fault of random women everywhere. You'd rather punish more innocent people than fix anything.

[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVP 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately sometimes innocent people have to be hurt until the world at large wakes up and makes the necessary changes.

[–]M3mph1s -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

That's the dumbest shit I've read today. So you'd agree more random, innocent men, and yourself (whether or not those apply) should get raped more often?

[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVP -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Of course not. I am merely saying that history has shown that society rarely acts until innocents are hurt. Sad as that is.

[–]M3mph1s -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

But raping innocent men would make innocent people into victims and society would act, right? Unless that's dumbass logic. Because if it were true, either we would have already acted, or you're implying there aren't already tons and tons of innocent victims. Because there are, plenty of them. So are they not innocent enough, or just not enough innocents have suffered?

Damn are you every school teacher I ever had? Happy to punish the whole class rather than solve a smaller issue.

[–]SissyHypno24 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao the down votes really show where this subs priorities lay

[–]jadedlonewolf89 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Men get raped all the time sexually, and financially barely anything ever gets done about it, it’s almost like it has to happen to women for someone to actually give a shit.

[–]M3mph1s 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But rape happens to women all the time and it’s still a problem that happens all the time... It’s almost as if making more victims isn’t the answer...

[–]freman 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Never said it was fair, just it's about time the fairer sex got to see what it feels like. Also prenups are barely worth the paper they're written on these days

[–]M3mph1s -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Never said it was fair, just it's about time the fairer sex got to see what it feels like.

So if men started getting raped more often, you'd be like "it's about time they see what it's like."

Also prenups are barely worth the paper they're written on these days

Well forgoing them seemed to work well here, figured I'd try to offer a solution rather than just bitching about how the system sucks.

[–]freman 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

FFS, there's always one.

Men do get raped, more than is commonly accepted.

https://www.mondaq.com/australia/family-law/673252/prenuptial-agreements-on-shaky-ground-after-high-court-decision

[–]M3mph1s -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FFS, there's always one.

Person who can't read? I agree, how'd you miss the "more often" part of "raped more often?"

Did you even read your own source? Let me help you with that too:

Speaking little English and with no other support in Australia, Ms Thorne signed the agreement

That lawyer told her it was a "terrible" agreement and advised her not to sign it. But she felt she had no choice and signed.

Family Law Act deals with circumstances in which court may set aside a financial agreement. One such circumstance is when a party to the agreement "engaged in conduct that was, in all the circumstances, unconscionable".

The High Court decided that the financial agreement should indeed be set aside for unconscionable conduct, as Ms Thorne had signed it under duress, putting her at a distinct disadvantage.

It was that duress that made the pre-nuptial agreement in breach of the law in the High Court's eyes.

Are you trying to imply that a document being invalidated by the courts, because it was signed under duress, is a sign that prenups mean nothing?

[–]pmw1981 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. When the broken legal system allows women to rake men over the coals & take money/assets he had BEFORE they met, she can lose her ass too. About damn time.

[–]Doogie76 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha ha ha ha

[–]yellomachine 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her paintings look good, actually.

[–]dingoperson2 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The style is pretty unusual, but interesting and attractive. Really awesome that he can make money from selling reproductions.

[–]Skootchy 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow these artists ladies who sit at home and paint all day are probably gonna be looking for some pre nups in the future haha.

I had to objectively think about this one, and honestly, it doesn't matter how she feels or the level of talent she has, she created a product that was profitable.

If Dave Chappelle, the artist got a divorce, half of that Netflix money would go to his wife. In fact he'd probably have to pay alimony and child support.

It doesn't matter that he sells ideas, or that anyone else sells physical objects or labor, some people even sell sounds, this lady happened to sell pictures.

[–]Mndless 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The difference is that the value is typically assessed and granted as alimony for a given period of time. In this case, being granted intellectual property rights over the copyright would allow him to create reprints of her art and sell them without her consent, which is an egregious abuse of the IP system. While he may be due compensation for the support offered throughout the relationship now that she has a profitable revenue stream, it should be in the form of cold, hard cash rather than ownership of IP.

[–]makeadolfgreatagain 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love to see it. Strong and independent until they taste equality, then cue the waterworks.

[–]Compdave44 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Careful guys.. I can sympathize with the feeling of "finally", but there are ramifications on this that could come back and bite us where it hurts.

[–]EpilepticFire 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Taking any party’s rightful assets should be illegal. If she exclusively worked on the paintings herself and gave it a copyright on her own then he should have no right to claim her work. She has no right on the guys assets either though. This shouldnt be a gendered issue at all your countrys laws are fucking retarded.

[–]trolltaskforce 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes we all know the laws are moronic, that’s the whole point of all these posts mocking when the system screws over the women.

[–]KoDa6562 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Although this is equality in action, let's not celebrate too hard. Neither men nor women should have their livelihoods stripped of them because of a vicious ex partner.

[–]Electrical-Bacon-81 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the point here, when it's not one-sided, and the ones supporting these laws figure out the laws can bite them too, the laws stand a better chance of getting changed.

[–]somesnazzyname 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Good when people get together you should be going in as equal partners. The fact her career took off when he was supporting her means he deserves half of what she made in their time together.

[–]zamonto -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

thats not whats happening. he is getting rights to earn money in the future off her art. its not right in any way

[–]somesnazzyname 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you sure because I don't read it like that. It says he will earn money from the ip for art created during their marriage not future work, I'm fine with being corrected though.

[–]zamonto 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah, but now he owns part of the copyrights, which means that every time that art is sold or used, he will get money for it. indefinitely.

[–]somesnazzyname 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is right, it was created when they were together. Nothing happens within a bubble he helped that art be created so hes a part of the process by sustaining her when she wasn't selling work. We are not privey to the support he gave her but he definately gave her the time and opportunity to be creative. She owes him for that.

[–]punannimaster 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

her face in the pic :|

[–]realdjjmc -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Repost

[–]iDam81 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Recomment

[–]ARX7 -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of people in this article can't seem to make the leap between "something that comes out of your brain", and then the whole individual people and literally any form of economic activity.

The original ruling would also arguably set the precedent that I went to school prior to my relationship, so my ex isn't entitled to any of my assets earnt throughout the relationship.

[–]silversilomi 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only assets earned during the marriage. Unfortunately or fortunately. Depends. That’s why there are prenups

[+]killer8424 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s kind of bullshit NGL.

[+]Sir_Mild_Peril -20 points-19 points-18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's very wrong. I don't suppose this will stand long term.

[–]Echogenetic 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, it’s not. Shitty yes, but that’s equal pain, equal gain. They signed up for this with marriage.

[–]kykyshmidt 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you link?

[–]goldenmom1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with this one. Typically I would say yes she needs to share the marital property bit this is not a purchased picture it's something she created from nothing. I dont think this would fly in many countries certainly not in the US.

[+]zamonto -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

wtf is this hate subreddit?

This is a woman who had created art while being with her husband, and then when they divorced, he got rights to that art?? The husband had nothing to do with the art, and she was creating art before she even met him. thats absolutely ridicolous and not fair at all to the artist?

If someone creates an art piece or some music on their own, it should be theirs to own. this is the whole point of copyright.

has this sub already devolved into posting any example of a woman getting screwed over?

[–]Deadicate 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why protest this when there are a hundred times more men in similar situations?

[–]M3mph1s 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This should be unpopular BECAUSE it happens to hundreds of other people, men and women. Alimony is a fucking joke. I’m sorry but a court gives money from someone to their ex because the ex is used to that lifestyle? Then the ex owes the sexy times, because that was part of the deal during the marriage.

[–]TwoMasterAccounts 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

See above post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/qgn23r/artist_broken_after_judge_rules_copyright_of_her/hi8ee12?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

Sometimes I see unnecessary hate in this sub but there are enough call outs for it. This thread is more a mixture of "there's your equality shrug" and small violins when you compare to how males are hung out to dry in the family law.

[–]zamonto -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Iunno. I think this situation is much more nuanced than most other posts in the sub, and yet people are treating it as an open an shut case to be laughed at...

Intellectual property and copyright is very serious business, and not something to be treated as just a means of income... She probably feels very personally attached to these art pieces, and it's not something that can be worked on or changed. It's like he now owns a part of her.

Maybe I'm taking this too personally because I'm an artists myself, and maybe I'm in the wrong and I should just never get married, but all I was trying to say was that this is not as simple as the comments here make it out to be.

If you married a musician, and that musician then wrote a song. Would you feel like you helped write that song? Or that you deserve to earn money from that song? It really depends on the circumstances

[–]Random-Kindness 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Greed my brother.

it's called greed. This subreddit is filled with absolute dog shit people, dude!

[–]Reloaded9mm 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So people like Bezos and Gates who thought up their businesses should leave their wives penniless too. Right?

How about when she wanted to go to art school and he supported her through that. Or when she spent years as an unknown artist making nothing, and he supported her through that. So he had nothing to do with her success, right?

[–]zamonto -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe there's a big difference between owning a business, and creating art. I expect she still earned money on the side while painting? If the husband payed all the bills while she was making her unsuccessful art, then I agree that he has had a significant part in making those art pieces

[–]Grammar-Notsee_ -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

thats absolutely ridicolous

*ridiculous

[–]zamonto 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hah, thanks. I hate spelling that word

[–]Mndless -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That is absolutely ridiculous bullshit. This is especially egregious given the ex-husband's emotional exploitation using said artwork to pressure her leading up to the divorce.

Truly astonishing how poor the judgement in this case was.

[–]zamonto 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

most astonishing is the amount of incel redditors jumping on it as a reason for hating women. As if the gender matters in a case like this.

this is truly becoming a hate-sub faster than i would have imagined

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