Do feminist believe that they didn’t create the hookup culture? That the sexual liberation/revolution didn’t play a part in it?

susfusstruss · 2021-12-29T01:53:11+00:00

imagine the shitstorm on unpopular opinion if someone posts "women created hookup culture"

bacon-wrapped-steak · 2021-12-29T00:38:31+00:00

If they believe that they didn't play a significant part, then they are absolutely deluded.

slipkid223 · 2021-12-29T02:01:28+00:00

Women control access to sex, they created and control the hookup culture.

riverview_man · 2021-12-29T13:35:46+00:00

They wanted to have sex like a man, well here's the result and you're still not happy🤣

Broadside_Beers · 2021-12-29T00:52:29+00:00

It’s really quite easy to tell what feminists think of any aspect of western society and culture. If it’s framed as something positive, they did it. If it’s framed as something negative, they had nothing to do with it.

The best part is when they contradict themselves.

One of my favourites is the custody of children going typically to the mother by default. Promotion of sexual liberty in women is another great one of course and the paradox of devaluing sex and sexuality.

lStriderl · 2021-12-29T04:48:54+00:00

Women were the greatest losers of the sexual revolution. The top 15% of men the greatest winners.

Women who sleep around also have greater difficulty bonding and have less ability to form healthy families.

We exchanged happiness for pleasure.

110659 · 2021-12-29T00:51:32+00:00

Roe and birth control also played a part.

shamblam117 · 2021-12-29T15:54:25+00:00

This has the same energy as "by other men!"

Don't blame the individual when you don't even know if they were ever advocating for that kind of culture.

thelawlessatlas · 2021-12-29T06:43:37+00:00

While I agree with you, it always has and always will take 2 to tango. If men had self-respect they wouldn't fuck the same drunk bitch their roommate just did last weekend. If women had self-respect, they wouldn't be the drunk bitch roommates were passing around.

I think it takes a failure of virtue on both sides for hook-up culture to exist.

Jay-Ames · 2021-12-29T14:37:10+00:00

Both genders created the hookup culture. But since women are blameless and have no accountability, solely us men created hookup culture.

ShiZniT3 · 2021-12-29T07:17:24+00:00

well the fuckbois arent complaining im sure, but the fornication policy of the modern world is, its everyone elses fault for me being a slut or whore. in my personal experience with them.

edit: i have a friend that married a female that was part of this ideology and believed it was her husbands fault for letting her become addicted to drugs and the guys that supplied her with them, to the point she was prostituting herself in santa cruz for crack cash. with the car her husband helped her lease...

WingsofSky · 2021-12-29T03:17:25+00:00

It's all part of the "Blame game". Making women/themselves look perfect. All the while blaming men and others for their problems/shortcomings.

TAPriceCTR · 2021-12-29T08:01:35+00:00

yes, they do believe that. I swear feminists had to have inspired Orwell when he wrote about double think.

Sperm40mmSprintChamp · 2021-12-29T15:52:57+00:00

There is a reason sex, gender and sexuality are always their go to and magically the exception to anything and everything. Women know, and most feminists are women, they are in fact in control of most of the interaction with men, more so when it comes to relationships or sexuality.

This IMO is a classic case of pure abusing your position. Except in this particular case they they can sprinkle it on just about anything they pick up arms about since their main issue is the male sex, not female treatment.

Icy_Pomegranate_2612 · 2021-12-29T08:01:51+00:00

Its not rocket science, just be honest with your partner about whether or not you want a relationship or just sex. If they want the opposite, move on. Get a real problem. Hookup culture is just another made up issue that gives people the excuse to not be honest or accountable for their actions. Not everyone wants the same thing out of an exchange. Instead of whining about hookup culture, try honest forthright communication. Works every time.

Philosophipster · 2021-12-29T11:14:57+00:00

That and capitalism. The people who created dating apps obviously thought that online markets were the next big thing in dating/matches, or that taboo's belonged online. I doubt they knew in advance how good it would be for women (access to sex 24/7), all sharing the top 20% guys or so, leaving the other 80% in the dust in their scarcity (again, societal capitalism at work). It's just a result of development.

I think about it this way: The onlyfans founder is probably the smartest man of our era, at least seeing the potential in women freely whoring themselves out on a large scale, labeling it as 'independent work' instead of 'the lazy alternative to working my butt off and get gud at something', in this day and age. It's brilliant. Wish I'd thought of that. That guy was ready to retire with a networth of 120 mill at what, 36, 37?

Meanwhile, the type of women -some also his age- don't question the world they live in and just assume it's 'k' to have nudes and videos of you having sex online. And future employers should respect their 'choices'. No one is asking them to do it, they choose to create the content. Even after having lived in a country since birth, that has internet (nothing on the net ever disappears), knowing fully well a backlash is possible. They could've invested that time in working a normal job, while studying.

That's longterm vs short term thinking right there. What really makes it financially possible tho, are the exact 80% of men who were screwed on the dating market, that now have to resort to pornhub, onlyfans, etc. for a dressed down form of intimacy or visceral sexual experiences (and needs/desires) that society would openly shame them for if they brought it up. So they stay behind their computers. If men stopped watching porn, women would waste time making the content.

It's a vicious circle, I believe, which will repeat ad infinitum until men and women all learn about their own value. Problem is, that costs time. Think decades, before someone can take a good and honest look at oneself. This day and age just makes it so much more easy to (publicly) fuck up your life early, than let's say 50 years ago. Enjoy the decline.

oafsalot · 2021-12-29T02:24:37+00:00

I dunno man. It didn't help, but men have been hounds for time eternal. There is no fault in admitting that we're biologically pre-determined to want to spread our seed. It often amazes me that we have come as far as we have from biological origins.

Women seem to forget than males of the human species are the Apex Predator ever to exist, we conquered everything nature threw at us and we planned to keep doing that until we conquered everything... This fucking gap between earth and space just delayed us. So we civilized.

It's a pretty fucking great achievement if you ask me. The collective conquering of our nature combined with a shaky but consistent agreement to cooperation.

Women should be lucky to have us, flaws and all. And it's not like we have stopped trying, we're just completely confused by the expectations of women that we will somehow stop being biologically predetermined to our nature and become females/women... That will never come to pass, it's ingrained in us.

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-12-29T02:06:43+00:00

Well it did. When women complain about the hookup culture I just laugh. You created it.

First you said feminists created hookup culture. The you said women created it.

Seems a lot of people have trouble differentiating feminists and women because they see both groups as the enemy.

It's not a very healthy outlook.

JustSomeGuy2008 · 2021-12-29T18:03:25+00:00

Feminists will never admit that they have caused any problems, even when those problems bite them in the ass.

Another example of this is the ongoing discussions of transgender activism. It's becoming more and more common for people who agree that transgender activism is insane...to also label it misogyny.

Even in spaces which usually call out that kind of ridiculous attitude, people are embracing the idea that transgender activism is evil men oppressing women. It's insane.

Feminists fostered the environment of identity above all. When men spoke out against it, they were shunned as misogynists. And now, that beast has mutated, and it's starting to harm women, as more and more men are setting records in women's sports. And feminists complain about how this is misogyny, refusing to admit that it's their own damn fault this is happening.

Feminists will never take accountability for their actions.

DestructionDestroyer · 2021-12-29T19:01:33+00:00

This is timely. I just read this post on TwoX.

I don't know what world they live in, but they're pissed because too many women "give away the goods for free" and it's hard to compete with that when you're hoping to get something out of giving up the goods.

42nanaimobars · 2021-12-29T19:44:47+00:00

Not all women aided in the creation of hookup culture. I wasn’t born back then. So I’ll complain about it much as I’d like to. Your wording switches from feminists to women as a whole. Be careful with what you write.

SilencedTruthSeeker · 2021-12-29T20:09:41+00:00

Take that logic elsewhere

Title	Do feminist believe that they didn’t create the hookup culture? That the sexual liberation/revolution didn’t play a part in it?
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Date	December 29, 2021 12:30 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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