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Family of Emmett Till want woman who made false accusation to be charged with murder for 1955 lynching

ScarAdvanced9562

March 12, 2022
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https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2022/03/11/emmett-till-petition-asks-apology-state-mississippi-others/6990047001/
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Title Family of Emmett Till want woman who made false accusation to be charged with murder for 1955 lynching
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ScarAdvanced9562

Upvotes 370
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Date March 12, 2022 6:20 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/tcngk5/family_of_emmett_till_want_woman_who_made_false/
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[–]tenchineuro 61 points62 points63 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Family of Emmett Till want woman who made false accusation to be charged with murder for 1955 lynching

Too bad false rape accusations are not illegal as such and men are not recognized in any way as the victims of false rape accusations.

[–]liberalbutnotcrazy 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was not claimed Emmett Till raped Carolyn Bryant, but that he either flirted or whistled at her.

[–]Diesel-66 70 points71 points72 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

She denies the confession and it wasn't recorded so good luck.

[–]DavidByron2 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

if the sexes were reversed prosecutors would run on a platform of indicting her regardless of the evidence. eg Bill Cosby

[–]Diesel-66 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Your example is really bad as the women testified he did it

Then Cosby confessed

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cosby did confess, but it's important to remember it was because the DA didn't have enough evidence for a criminal conviction, and wanting to seek some semblance of justice for the victim, offered criminal immunity in exchange for testimony in a civil trial.

The new DA decide to basically reneg on that contract, and went forward with a trial, using new evidence that applied inappropriately. This is why the court overturned his conviction.

[–]lasciate 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if the sexes were reversed prosecutors would run on a platform of indicting her regardless of the evidence. eg Bill Cosby

Replace "regardless of evidence" with "regardless of the ethics of bringing a bad case to trial" or "regardless of ability to make a conviction stick" and it works.

The problem wasn't with the evidence, it was with the fact that Cosby was led to believe he had been granted criminal immunity. The prosecutor that ran on bringing him to trial explicitly pledged to prosecute regardless of that agreement (and did so).

[+]DavidByron2 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Cosby didn't confess. Try to not let feminist fill your head with crap.

[–]Diesel-66 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-bill-cosby-quaalude-deposition-excerpts-20160523-snap-story.html

You can read his deposition.

[–]DavidByron2 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're an idiot that's filled their head with feminist crap. Listen to your own source.

[–]Diesel-66 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

... read Cosby's own words

[–]DavidByron2 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I did. You didn't. You're an idiot for posting a source you don't even know what's in it.

[–]ijustdontcare74 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Instead of asking her to be charged (if she's even alive still), how about pushing for a law that says ALL people involved in a sexual crime (rape, sex assault etc) have to remain anonymous by law until the trial has ended. Any media org, individual etc that publishes details would be held in contempt of court and punished. This would go some way towards men not being "lynched" by the media and being ruined before being proven innocent.

[–]Diesel-66 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Secret trials are much worse. You don't ever want people arrestedand convicted without it being public knowledge.

[–]sgtm7 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have always believed this. Even if proven innocent, just the accusation of a sex crime can scar someone for life.

Of course in the Emmet Till case, it wasn't an accusation of rape.

[–]ddebranelson 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That old ho is still alive?

[–]BeepBeepYeah7789 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I've read different accounts of what Emmett Till actually did; some say that he only cat-called that woman while others say that he went a little further than that. In no case does that excuse his murder, but I've leaned toward the mere catcall. Assuming that's all that happened, it would make the murder all the more egregious & heinous.

From a legal perspective (because statutes and case laws are often complicated), CAN she be charged with murder? I'm not suggesting that she should or shouldn't be, but rather whether there's an actual legal avenue for that.

[–]Gingerchaun 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm doubtful. She would have had to take an active role in the murder to be charged with homicide. Pretty sure accessory after the fact is ruled out as well. Conspiracy to commit doesn't seem to fit either.

Past investigations by civil rights leader T.R.M. Howard and author Devery Anderson each concluded Bryant learned of what happened at the store from someone other than his wife.

So It doesn't really look like she conspired with anyone either. Even had she told her husband she would have had to actually help plan the murder.

[–]Practical-Rip6471 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

A white woman making that kind of accusation in those times knew she was passing a death sentence, so yes she's equally guilty. If you supply the gun used in a robbery or murder you're held just as guilty.

[+]Smitty1017 -16 points-15 points-14 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A white woman saying someone catcalled her was a death sentence in those times? Lmao what?

[–]stingermamabee 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You ever heard of the Tulsa massacre? It started because a black man fell into a white woman on an elevator. After that one thing after another occurred until the entirety of a city was burned to the ground and innocent people were murdered.

Yes. In those days it absolutely was a death sentence.

[–]Smitty1017 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Still strongly disagree. We have two examples of situations where people died now. There have been times where someone was killed for spilling coffee on someone I am sure. It does not mean spilling coffee on someone is a death sentence. This is just insanely exaggerated hyberbole.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bckob0AyKCA

[–]TendieDinner777 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

I believe she should have been punished, but I’ve never supported laws that charge people with something they didn’t do directly. Even if she provided material support and encouraged them, that’s still not actually murder.

[–]crypticsage 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I believe encouraging someone to commit a crime is itself a crime.

[–]towerandhorizon 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely. Given the horrific way Till died, if she was involved in any way, she has to be charged with the appropriate crime...even if it isn't directly "murder".

[–]TendieDinner777 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It’s a crime, but it’s not the crime they encouraged someone to do.

[–]kanniget 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you encourage and coerce someone to murder a person you don't like, it's murder by proxy. You don't do it yourself because you want to escape punishment. The fact you want someone else to do it for you brings a third person Into your crime.

In my view this makes your crime worse.

[+]TendieDinner777 -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The person who pulls the trigger, etc. deserves to be charged with a more severe crime than the person who encouraged it, because the murderer still made the choice to follow through, instead of squashing it.

I’m not saying the person who encouraged it should not be punished at all, but there’s a significant difference between encouraging a crime to occur and committing it, and the name of the crimes as well as the punishments should reflect that.

[–]Solid-Perspective98 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Abetting an offence is akin to committing the offence and severity and liability depends on specific circumstances. For example, merely cheering on a mob lynching is less severe than masterminding it, both of which are forms of encouragement. The latter is generally equivalent to committing the lynching in person.

[–]TendieDinner777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with the levels of culpability, but my original point stands.

[–]AdAcademic4290 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you completely.

[–]towerandhorizon 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can get into a fight with someone, I knock them down, they hit their head on the ground, and they die. I didn't intend for the person to die, but they did. I should be charged with being responsible for their death. In the United States, IIRC, it is a form of homicide, but not murder.

[–]TendieDinner777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s different than never laying a hand on the person who died…like if I told you to punch the guy, I’m not a manslaughterer or a murderer.

[–]899Madison 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep

[–]apx_rbo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't she dead??

[–]PairOfSocksGaming 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

was it false? does it need to be false to matter?

[+]Jonger1150 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She's 88 years old.

[–]Revolutionary_Town21 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So?

[+]imjusthereforresearc -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is stupid in so many ways.

[–]aknabi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No way… feminist don’t need the precedent. Remember in the hierarchy of SJ victim-hood oppression: white woman > black man.

[–]Dismal-Opposite-6946 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I read about this case and it was just heartbreaking. I agree that she should be charged with murder because that's exactly what happened. I saw the funeral pictures and what they did to that poor boy was just... I have no words.

[–]Vanhelsing2020 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Good luck with that one. Chris Brown and his team of lawyers can't even get the latest chick who lied about him graping her to face any sort of legal repurcussions

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think Chris brown is a good example of false accusations Edit: Rihanna was wrong as well, but what he did, he admitted to and was an actual fight.

[+]Vanhelsing2020 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

Read the actual police report. RiRi beat the shit out of him. What you think and what really is, stark contrast there.

Emit Till's false accuser has done plenty of interviews where she has shown little to no remorse. "Believe all women" has existed since before the dinosaurs have roamed the earth.

Men only have themselves to blame at this point for allowing this to continue to happen

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

She didn’t “beat the shit out of him”. She kicked him and hit him. Then he beat the shit out of her. That’s exactly why I said her actions weren’t okay. But that does not mean his actions were. If you have a source for the police report, feel free to share it.

[+]Vanhelsing2020 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You need me to show you how to use Google?

Sounds like you have more problems than a third world country. Can't help you there. You're on your own, buttercup

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Nice try. “Using Google” leads to unreliable and a lack of accountability for a lot of sources. I am asking for the source YOU used. If a feminist gave me a women’s issue statistic and her source was NOW, how would you feel? I’m just asking for the source that you are getting information from. Internet isn’t as reliable as you think, buttercup.

[+]Vanhelsing2020 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What are you blabbering on about? There's only ONE police report.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Then can you link me to this specific police report? Not an article on some random gossip website. You continue to blabber on about this report, I ask for the specific link to your source and you can’t provide it. You providing your source was me willing to acknowledge I was wrong depending if your source was reliable or not. I am always willing to say, “You’re right, thank you for showing me the evidence and where you learned this.”

But you just continue to insult. Way to go.

[+]Vanhelsing2020 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The documents that you can find on those so called sites leave out the full context as to why Brown started wailing on her like that (ie defending himself).

She attacks him first. He was defending himself from her wailing on him in that couped up lamborghini.

Sites like jezebel and tmz will ONLY show the parts that make Brown look like a monster. Again, it's all about context.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree! I would never 100% believe TMZ, or as I said, NOW. That’s why I’m asking you for the source you find reliable. I don’t want to Google police report to find some TMZ article or someone posting news about it on Reddit. That’s why I’m wondering where you got your own information from, because those sites and articles can’t be as accurate as the actual police report. It is literally nothing against you. If someone told me a statistic about women in a way that bashes men, I’d ask for their source and see if it was NOW or UN, a group that’s known to be absolutely biased towards woman. Or in this case, biased towards Rihanna.

[+]Vanhelsing2020 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

At this rate, just admit that you don't know how to read.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish I didn’t. Right now your spewing nonsense, and I wish I couldn’t read it. You’d rather insult me over and over than provide reliable evidence for me to understand you better.

[+]Vanhelsing2020 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

For the full police report you're going to to have to access it via government web site where the altercation occurred. (LA)

A simple Google search will no longer suffice, unless you want to see snippets and parts they copy and paste to make Rhianna look like the victim.

Brown was merely defending himself.

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