Current men's right are forcing me to choose between vasectomy, no sex, or stop working if a woman traps me.

yettobekilledbydeath · 2022-05-19T05:43:24+00:00

If you can say for sure that you'll never want children the vasectomy is your best choice. Just be aware that it becomes irreversible with time (you can freeze some little guys though if you ever change your mind). But it's totally worth it... and if you keep that information a secret you'll be surprised how true your gf is.

Kryptus · 2022-05-19T07:30:45+00:00

You can't just stop working and not pay child support. The court will assess your earning potentially from your past job and they will give you a hard time if your earnings drop a lot without good reason. You could try to get a doctor to sign off that you have medical issues or something.

springy · 2022-05-19T10:24:37+00:00

I remember reading a story about a successful accountant, whose wife left him and issued divorce papers. He said that at first he felt incredible shock, but eventually felt incredible relief because for the first time in his life he could focus on himself. He had only become an accountant in order to support his greedy wife's lifestyle. He left his job, and went to college to learn to look after animals, then took a low paid job at an animal shelter.

Not surprisingly, his wife and her lawyer were furious that their plan to bleed him dry had failed. He said he was surprised himself at how he found he didn't miss the higher standard of living he used to have, and was perfectly fulfilled living very simply and doing a job he loved.

It reminded me of a line from the film Heat: "Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

MGTOW_and_Bitcoin · 2022-05-19T13:45:47+00:00

Let's be very clear what is going on here:

as a man a woman can force you into fatherhood because you do not have a legally protected choice;

they can force you into marriage equivalence, using common law.

they can force you out of fatherhood using full custody

they can force you out of a marriage using no fault divorce

and they can force you into lifelong servitude using alimony, palimony and child support.

Get the story straight this is the condition of Western men under the guise of gender equality

WeEatBabies · 2022-05-19T12:02:52+00:00

False, even with a vasectomy a feminist can force you to pay child support for another man's kid! All she needs to do is tell the court you took a fatherly role!

If you are married, she does not even have to do that, any kid she spawns is legally yours, even if you have a vasectomy!

Do not get married, and do not cohabitate with a woman if you live in a state/country with common law marriage!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law\_marriage

auMatech · 2022-05-19T05:00:31+00:00

Welcome to the world of men's reproductive rights...

Your can deal with the risk by using as many of the contraceptive options that you feel comfortable with, but at the end of the day if your partner gets pregnant, you're at the mercy of their decisions.

MrStone1 · 2022-05-19T11:49:42+00:00

Wear condoms or use prostitutes, Why would you want a relationship?

38andstillgoing · 2022-05-19T05:03:13+00:00

I'm ugly. I have very low risk.

Arguesovereverythin · 2022-05-19T13:28:18+00:00

Have you considered avoiding long term relationships? Sleep with people you don't know and can't hunt you down.

eddboat112 · 2022-05-19T08:18:29+00:00

Cover your stump before you hump

imextremelymoderate · 2022-05-19T15:29:08+00:00

Be particularly wary of women that approach you

Notlikeotherguys · 2022-05-19T11:54:05+00:00

I got snipped after my marriage went south. I had 2 teenagers, and while I love being a dad I don't want to start over again in my 40's. I knew far too many guys who got baby trapped into a second marriage after their girlfriends who were supposedly on the pill or were told by their doctors that they couldn't have kids magically got pregnant before the ink was dry on their divorce. These guys are miserable. Constant fighting between the new wife and the ex. Ex wife complaining that their kids aren't getting enough of his time. New wife complaining that his previos kids are a handful and she has a baby to take care of. These guys are broke and stressed out. Both women complaining about money issues. Their second marriages don't seem any happier than their first ones. I wasn't taking any chances. I did my best, I gave 110% to my family. I still do right by my kids, who are now almost adults. Pretty soon it's time to live for me.

DirtyPartyMan · 2022-05-19T14:20:24+00:00

If she’s a persistent acquaintance or co-worker: Say you’re gay.

Done

Ok_Reach7331 · 2022-05-19T06:32:51+00:00

Wrap it before you tap it.

CawlinAlcarz · 2022-05-19T12:39:45+00:00

Just to let you know - not being employed will not necessarily be a defense against outrageous child support payments. If in the US, the judge will look at your employment history and tell you to go get a job that lets you earn enough to cover whatever she awards the mother from you in child support, or go to jail.

flibbidy_floob · 2022-05-20T02:23:50+00:00

Thanks goodness for free porn.

McFeely_Smackup · 2022-05-20T16:40:52+00:00

I do not expect a woman I consider to my gf to trap me

do you think any man ever expected it?

After a lifetime of being told "shut up. If you don't want kids, dont have sex or get a vasectomy", I got a vasectomy.

Now that abortion rights are dissolving, my response is "if you don't want kids, don't have sex or get your tubes tied".

If feminist want to champion a policy of Reproductive Rights For Everyone, I'll join with them. but I'm done with the "all for us, none for you" way of doing things.

DevilishRogue · 2022-05-19T12:29:15+00:00

You don't have the right to stop working due to "imputed income".

Sailbad_the_Sinner30 · 2022-05-19T13:18:35+00:00

Wow! How do I deal with this?

I have sex with reasonable people, use contraception, and assume that it is an imperfect world and mistakes happen. I have never met a woman who wants to “trap” me, so I feel pretty good.

(Fifty five year old on his second marriage, btw.)

Qantourisc · 2022-05-19T11:07:46+00:00

Maybe be a little discerning who you fuck? You seem to be under the impression that there a lot of women out there just waiting to get knocked up by you so they can take your paycheck. Unless your a millionaire that’s unlikely to be the case. The problem I see is most men are much less choosy with their sexual partners than they should be. Seems to me, to be a product of the modern dating scene where 1 night stands are pretty common…often the desired outcome for both parties. People don’t take the time to get to know who the hell they are dealing with anymore.

Gingerchaun · 2022-05-19T05:35:30+00:00

I accept the consequences of my actions. If you have sex with a woman you run the risk of having a child.

Having a child isn't a bad thing.

Gloomy_Pay_9308 · 2022-05-19T14:30:57+00:00

Having just become a stay at home husband you are absolutely fucking right

When do we discuss using force

ComprehensiveVoice98 · 2022-05-20T01:01:28+00:00

I think the male birth control pill will begin human trials this year. I think it will be a great advancement and give men more control in having children. Finally.

flavorfulminx · 2022-05-20T05:49:01+00:00

There's always sex dolls...

stacyxxluv · 2022-05-19T10:28:00+00:00

You would rather go homeless then paying child support? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?

I think getting a vasectomy/stop having sex is a better option more safe option..

d3ch01 · 2022-05-19T09:13:36+00:00

A bit melodramatic don't u think? U can wear a condom. You can pull out. You can have nonvaginal sex. She can take BC. She can take plan b. She can get a hysterectomy. All of those involve sex. No vasectomy needed. If ur afraid a woman will trap you, u still have plenty of precautions you can take, or insist she takes.

teenagewitch97 · 2022-05-19T10:58:47+00:00

Ah, so now abortion is being made illegal you're actually willing to take responsibility for your reproductive capabilities? Women are having to deal with a potential immense change in their bodies and lifestyle often due to events outside of their control - sometimes birth control fails, "stealthing" is a thing, rapists rarely use condoms, and if by chance the egg implants in the wrong place the pregnancy could kill you. Get your head out of your arse and stop whining about having to think about this for the first time.

BowForThanos · 2022-05-19T12:26:36+00:00

Stop ya fuckin whinging. Wear a condom and get better taste in women. This getting trapped shit is so fuckin rare and you act like it's a likely thing to happen to you. Just be a responsible adult. Yes if being trapped happens we're fucked on our rights so let's focus on productive ways to fix that rather than milking it and victimising yourself

Title	Current men's right are forcing me to choose between vasectomy, no sex, or stop working if a woman traps me.
Author	Qantourisc
Upvotes	54
Comments	133
Date	May 19, 2022 4:52 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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