Does anyone have a source questioning the "only 1% of rapists in the UK are convicted" claim?

duhhhh · 2023-05-27T09:06:43+00:00

In most jurisdictions in the world about the same percentage of accusations to the police are proven true and false. In over 80% of cases there isn't enough evidence to know who is telling the truth. Anyone claiming that entire 80%+ are all true or all false is not arguing in good faith.

plumberack · 2023-05-27T09:57:06+00:00

It is calculated by number of men convicted divided by number of police reports on rape filed by women. Feminists treat "not enough evidence" as "got away from justice" so in their eyes all police complaints are true but only 1% accused men are convicted.

Notice, they only talk about rape because women are immune by its definition. They don't talk about women who walk free despite being convicted of sexually abusing the school boy.

phoenician_anarchist · 2023-05-27T08:55:54+00:00

Not a source, but... they get this number form assuming all accusation of rape are true, and they also inflate the number of accusations too (only x% of rapes are reported).

Classic manipulation of statistics combined with outright lies.

WeEatBabies · 2023-05-27T11:20:57+00:00

The Washington Post baby, no less!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/06/less-than-percent-rapes-lead-felony-convictions-least-percent-victims-face-emotional-physical-consequences/

Fearless-File-3625 · 2023-05-27T12:54:43+00:00

51% of rape cases result in conviction in courts of UK, this 1% number is probably from police reports.

Joe_Immortan · 2023-05-27T12:22:19+00:00

It’s patently questionable. If they haven’t been convicted then it’s not been proven that they’ve raped anyone

ExMuzzy · 2023-05-27T12:55:09+00:00

Even feminists over at The Guardian have reported that this is a myth.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230109201339/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/mar/19/myths-about-rape-conviction-rates

It was at 58% (10 years ago, now 68%), the same conviction rate for any other crime. When you hear some low like 1%, what they mean is attrition rate which is actually 12%. As the article says, they only do this for rape so you can’t compare it to other crimes.

DougDante · 2023-05-27T14:28:10+00:00

There are problems with justice for sexual abuse victims in the United Kingdom, and many of them involve chidden, including boys. Even when the reporters focus on girls and use exclusive language, there are inevitably boys victimized as well:

Manchester sex abuse: Police 'should be prosecuted'

A whistleblowing former detective has called for police officers to be prosecuted for "deliberately ignoring" the sexual abuse of young girls.

Maggie Oliver said abuse between 2003 and 2005 was met by "gross criminal neglect at the top echelons" of Greater Manchester Police (GMP).

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-51122331

a report written by Professor Alexis Jay called the “Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham.” said:

"In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene."

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2k2ikd/action_opportunity_urge_eu_and_uk_to_end_the/

Report is here:

https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/download/31/independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-exploitation-in-rotherham-1997---2013

Councillors and police 'had sex' with Rotherham abuse victims

Sordid allegations emerge as council is branded 'not fit for purpose' by inspectors

https://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/62397/councillors-and-police-had-sex-with-rotherham-abuse-victims

Jimmy Savile cop warns of TWO MORE ‘untouchable’ celebrity sex monsters

THE TV investigator who unmasked Sir Jimmy Savile as a paedophile has unearthed two more celebrity sex beasts who think they are untouchable.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/jimmy-savile-paedophile-celebrities-investigator-16814222

It is now known that Jimmy Savile sexually abused hundreds of children and women at the height of his fame.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse-timeline

babno · 2023-05-27T14:50:19+00:00

Typically they start with the assumption that 80% of rapes are unreported, and of the remaining 20% that are reported, 10% go nowhere because woman doesn't name anyone, lack of evidence, or recanting. Of the remaining 10% many will take a plea deal avoiding conviction on the specific charge of rape, and others will be found not guilty (but they totally were), and 1% will be found guilty and convicted of rape.

tizzle79 · 2023-05-27T16:47:06+00:00

It must be the constant women raping kids. On a daily basis these women are getting away with slaps on the wrists. Anything please put these monsters in jail. Literally every day “Teacher gets pregnant fron 12 yr old” “Continues to teach more 12 yrolds because shes a woman”

secret_tiger101 · 2023-05-28T00:45:03+00:00

It’s an inherently unprovable statistic

AspirationsOfFreedom · 2023-05-27T12:41:20+00:00

Estimates at best

HerbDeanosaur · 2023-05-27T14:27:49+00:00

The best indicator of whether a claim is true or not is trial. There is zero way to know this.

Frequent-Muffins · 2023-05-27T17:10:32+00:00

Why are you looking to disprove that?

Clemicus · 2023-05-27T17:22:54+00:00

I’d actually like where they got that claim from.

Unless the CPS published data from a FOI request. There’s no way of calculating how many rapists are convicted from the court data

The court statistics they release are on a offence basis. It isn’t one person per offence. You could have someone who’s been convicted of multiple offences but isn’t found guilty of all of them, which would skew the data

And on top of that, prior to the Cooties, there was a substantial amount of cases with no recorded outcome. After so many years cases aren’t updated with its current state. This could be anywhere between 15% to 33% of cases in any given year. That’s most likely increased since

PS some years back I found an archive on the Justice website containing a decade worths of court data. I imported it in a database and tried to make sense out of it. I’ve still got the MySQL file somewhere

Claptrap-94 · 2023-05-27T18:04:21+00:00

Those sources are always biased and only used as propaganda by twisting the data.

For instance there was a similar "study" targeted a specific group of women if they have been sexually harassed by men and (I think) it was around 97% and they twisted that data by saying 97% of women around the UK get sexually harassed by men.

Now the "source" about 1% conviction rate of rape is just nonsense, no doubt it has been taken by a biased study. There is a high chance that a guy will be arrested for an accusation. Now in an actual court, it comes down to evidence or lack of evidence. A lack of evidence doesn't mean innocent or guilty.

It also doesn't take into account the false allegations against men, I'm not going to pretend to know what percentages are falsely accused or lack of evidence.

Xenovia90 · 2023-05-27T18:32:54+00:00

I love the part where they know exactly how many rapes don't get reported while simultaneously telling you they don't get reported but yet they have the number.

g1455ofwater · 2023-05-27T23:21:44+00:00

I would be asking whoever is making that claim to provide a source.

Main-Tiger8593 · 2023-05-27T12:37:42+00:00

why so few rape cases go to court?

Old-Condition-119 · 2023-05-27T19:31:30+00:00

Some victims blackmail their rapists, so gotta tot them in too

Edit - they don't report

Title	Does anyone have a source questioning the "only 1% of rapists in the UK are convicted" claim?
Author	Jaffacakes-and-Jesus
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Date	May 27, 2023 8:49 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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