Do we even need r/seduction?

seduction-ModTeam · 2022-10-15T18:44:24+00:00

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bytheninedivines · 2022-10-15T15:55:48+00:00

The best part about this sub is how it teaches men to be confident in themselves and improve their lives.

Well, it used to be the best part, now it's just full of incels who have already given up on improving themselves

Learning_ToBe_Better · 2022-10-15T14:46:48+00:00

I am an amateurish guy when it comes to dealing with girls. Always had a vibrant personality, etc, but always wondered why I blew my shots with a lot of girls who showed interest in me. Believe it or not, this sub (some of the posts here) helped me realize a lot of shit I was doing wrong.

1) I learnt that it's better to show intent early on through flirting etc and how to not get friendzoned

2) I actually went out with a chick recently and tried flirting (someone shared YouTube vids on here about them) and it worked. I had fun too.

3) I changed my mentally to focus on the process instead of the outcome when with a girl. And it's been going well.

4) Not as scared of rejection as i was earlier. Bolder to try riskier things

I am still in the process. I suck at physical escalation, so I am trying to get better at that. If it doesn't work out with this chick, I move onto the next one. Not gonna feel bad about things not working out anymore. However, I don't frequent this sub too much nowadays either, I took the info I needed, going out and practicing stuff irl. Guess you gotta be smart about what you are reading. Cause some stuff here is a bit weird ngl

halalShawarma · 2022-10-15T16:24:41+00:00

Dude straight up said in his speech he doesn't need tips and in last sentence asked for tips. smh

Archyblackcat · 2022-10-15T16:23:50+00:00

Yeah I’m considering leaving this sub as well.. the only thing this sub did for me was confirming my hypothesis.., I had already thought about it but was in denial at first !! I had to grow the balls and practice in real life, that’s what really taught me .. I’m only here to try to help people but there’s always counter arguments from idiots that have zero real life experience contradicting my advices , and a lot of people in denial that aren’t willing to put in the work !! Nothing you do or say will work if the girl doesn’t at least find you OK looking .. looks do matter but not as much as people think, you don’t have to be a Chad for a girl to find you “alright” looking … there will always be a cute girl who will be willing to give you a chance if you have a compatible personality and learn to make them laugh, how to flirt etc… you do have to improve your physical flaws and personality flaws though to find a girl faster, no one wants to be with a pessimistic looser !!!! I feel like people come in here trying to find a way to attract tons of girls but that’s impossible for some of us.. You can always attract one cute girl here and there though.. if you think your looks are stopping you; Then : 1) get a muscular body, don’t have to be ripped but you do have to have muscles and visible abbs (12-13 percent body fat is enough) 2) learn to be yourself without fear of judgement (people’s opinions don’t matter) 3) get a cool hair cut and beard style 4) start dressing better, get cool shoes and clothes that fit and show case your muscles .. it’s that simple, if you notice , all cute girls try to look their best, that’s why they actually look their best …if a girl puts in time to look good , why won’t guys wanna do it ?

PugsleyAdams4 · 2022-10-15T13:42:09+00:00

Nope, we don't need this subreddit. So no luck, no tips or confidence boosters for you.

Repulsive-Fee393 · 2022-10-15T15:48:25+00:00

You really don’t need it, just walk up and be blunt

2022-10-15T15:50:44+00:00

I feel like all this seduction shit is a bit much and can be bad for your mentality. The more I read about seduction the more I feel like I don't have the skills to do it

Paralysis by analysis. A lot of coaches talk about reading to much pickup and it fucking up guys game.

Canadian-Seductioner · 2022-10-15T14:08:47+00:00

Seduction =/= manipulation techniques and tactics

SnooHesitations4922 · 2022-10-15T13:49:40+00:00

While the sub does contain relevant material when it comes to self improvment and how to properly convey your worth, All these tactics and gaming strategies are definitely manipulations. This is all geared toward dealing with, how do I say this politely...garden tools, richard fiends, damaged goods. No proper high caliber woman with a father in her life is going to go for any of this. If a girl is actually interested in you, you don't need any of this material anyway, it's more for cultivating interest where levels may be in question during social situations involving alcohol.

stephanienyc108 · 2022-10-15T16:00:42+00:00

👏👏👏 this subreddit is a dumpster fire. You got the right attitude. Go for it and good luck! Also, bring over 40 and dating a while, as a guy be into sports. Not as in watching them, but actually participate in them. They’re a great way to be fit, feel good, find other healthy like-minded people. Good bonding time for the same sex and good way to meet people of the opposite sex that have the same interests. I never came back from training and said, damn, wish I didn’t go. And I’ve met awesome people there.

2022-10-15T16:06:31+00:00

No such thing as seduction.

omega05 · 2022-10-15T16:43:29+00:00

"I'm gonna stop reading the sub but help me talk to this one girl in my class."

So you're part of the problem too then basically

Wertyasda · 2022-10-15T16:07:14+00:00

Yeeeees!! All the best, and things not working out is all good practice :)

Substantial_Smell_72 · 2022-10-15T16:40:47+00:00

Helps to share experience with people on this sub. Nothing learned is going to be as effective then if you go out and get real world experience. The problem I could see that your talking about is this place make it easy to feel like your learning and getting better but if you never apply it to the real world it all means nothing. I also fall into this trap of not wanting to get out of my comfort zone.

Mc_Dickles · 2022-10-15T16:54:13+00:00

Honestly I like this subreddit when it’s fun and full of success/hope. It’s whack when a bunch of dudes come and say “hey I need helping getting a girlfriend, also I hate life and have no ambitions/prospects”

Like bruh

Reddevil313 · 2022-10-15T16:59:06+00:00

I don't really read this sub anymore but my key takeaways from over the years was to take care of yourself and build up your value, don't take things personally, don't chase girls that don't show interest, have self respect and learn to feel good about yourself.

Global-Bridge-6787 · 2022-10-15T17:04:43+00:00

True but also you need inner game to even get a woman on a date and then the balls to take her to bed. I had a fuckton of childhood trauma which created self limited beliefs mainly with women. This subreddit helped me overcome those limiting beliefs and to take more chances on dates. But at a certain point, you have to start blackpilling and doomscrolling and just meet people.

I’ve only ever gotten laid off the apps though, so my goal is to meet more women in public now.

appmanga · 2022-10-15T17:24:14+00:00

All these techniques and tactics almost feel like manipulation

That's because seduction techniques are about manipulation, and when I write that I always have to state the word "manipulation" is used in its agnostic sense. This ain't Trilby/Swengali stuff; it's about using techniques to get a person who's inclined to do something to follow through. Similar techniques are used in business and media everyday, and not always for ill. Many guys have an aversion to what they think is trickery so they want no part of real seduction. They don't have the balls for it.

When coupled with the annoying fact that far too many people come to this sub for dating and/or relationship advice, I think you ask a very legitimate question about the need for this sub.

I'm just gonna walk up to after class and attempt to talk/flirt with her.

I guess you've never seen this advice in this sub.

Wish me luck, any basic tips or confidence boosters would be appreciated.

You don't care for the sub, and yet you want its feedback for something you don't believe in. This is cognitive dissonance in its purest form. The guys you know who have been successful without reading a book, etc., innately know things about relating to women that you don't, and they use that knowledge to accomplish their goal, which is probably singular and more well defined than yours.

froggyfreckledfeet · 2022-10-15T19:05:35+00:00

No, you really don't need a preset seduction line.

Ask her about herself. - "Why did you pick this class? Is it required for your degree or is it your passion?"

Compliment her on something other than her appearance. "I really appreciate your comments in class. You bring up such good points"

Listen to what she says. - This is really important. If you think what she says is annoying or silly, MOVE ON. No matter how physically attractive she is, you won't be able to respect her the way she deserves.

If she shuts you down, thank her for her time and walk away proudly. --You never know who is watching. Most people can identify with that feeling and will be empathic towards you. The next girl you talk to might have seen how you handle yourself.

Handling yourself under pressure or scrutiny is immensely attractive. This is not a masculine or feminine trait, its an adult trait. Mark yourself as an adult.

I have 4 grown sons in happy, healthy long-term relationships. 2 married their high school sweethearts.

Title	Do we even need r/seduction?
Author	carlthelock
Upvotes	59
Comments	31
Date	October 15, 2022 1:35 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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