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[–]PaleontologistNo2785 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I find it strange how anyone serious about wanting to get laid doesnt max out their looks.
[–]dametime223 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I always say if you don't put in the work you don't have right to complain, simple as that
[–]FigureSuch2715 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm a few days off the chat ..sorry!. Seriously I won't go to the grocery store in sleeping clothes .see it all the time ..i might just run into The One. ..
[–]thelambofdeth 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago* (105 children) | Copy Link
I'm 6'3, I run 5x a week, I have a legitimate interest in high fashion so I naturally dress really well, and I have hair, skin, and grooming regimes to the point of metrosexuality....hasn't helped my confidence one bit lol
[–]MattPruga 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (62 children) | Copy Link
imagine if you weren't all that, feeling better?
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (61 children) | Copy Link
No, bc I have all that and it still hasn't helped with women.
[–]MattPruga 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (45 children) | Copy Link
ohh wait, it's you again, the extremely negative and depressed dude. Change your mindset and start talking to women.
Also, stop with the porn.
[–]thelambofdeth 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link
Dude..what part don't you get? If you're ugly you can't just choose what mindset you have, and there's no realistic point in talking to woman. At best I'll be politely dismissed. And you can't just stop porn if you don't have any women...it's a cycle.
[–]MattPruga 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
But ugly people get laid, you can't say that every ugly guy is alone. You are generalising stuff.
It's not a cycle, some people go monk mode, they stop porn and don't have sex. Besides, not masturbating makes you horny and forces you to approach. Win win.
[–]thelambofdeth -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I didn't, I can only speak for myself.
I've lowered my standards and it hasn't help. That said, if you're ugly you have to compensate by making a lot of money, or having extremely high social status and 1,000 friends. I have none of that so....lol.
I'm basically addicted to porn at this point. The most I can go is a week without and while it did make me honry, I still couldn't approach any women when I went out.
[–]MattPruga 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think that going for a week or two is most beneficial for me.
I've done 46 days once, too much mental draining and no pussy because i didn't approach back then.
Well, I'm glad I got to see your perspective on things. Maybe read a few of my posts, I approach weekly (hoping to get better)
Good luck.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok now I see your just a incel and expect women to fall on your lap without even trying.
[–]PondScum420 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
You should see how ugly I am lol. I’m not Rico Suave but I do ok. You’re being bitter and making excuses.
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Good for you, mate. Unattractive people aren't created equally just bc you do well doesn't mean someone else will.
[–]PondScum420 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Are you gonna be a whiny bitch your whole life? Really, ask yourself that. You think you’re the hardest case thats ever existed? You don’t think anyone has defied greater odds than you? You’re acting pathetic, and I don’t mean that in a harsh way, but in the literal definition of the word. For gods sake man, sex is the only reason any of us exist. Being an astronaut is hard, sticking your penis in a vagina is not. Tighten up.
[–]PaleontologistNo2785 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Show me
[–]PondScum420 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I got like 8 moles on my face, dry skin, pale af, my skin color is nearly red, and i got a beer gut. My hair is nearly translucent in fluorescent light because I’m super blonde. Trust me, I’ve had my times of being all depressed and thinking nobody wants me, but you gotta keep trying. I can’t feel bad for you if you give up, I’m sorry, but I can’t. People have it harder than you and have defied greater odds. Facts, stop making excuses.
[–]alphaonthecomeup 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Yo I used to be on the porn shit too, but then i took a two month trip to Thailand. Guess what, they don’t alo porn in their country. So I had no choice but to quit cold turkey. It was a blessing.
For now just fap to pics or use your imagination. Just don’t watch that shit.
Plus take a trip bro to Thailand or Cambodia or Colombia. Go somewhere. At 6’3 the ladies will flock to you and you’ll see you’re not some lame guy. It’s just western women that are the problem. But not all Women are bad.
Trust me bro. Take a trip. Fap to pics and continue working.
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Umm...I'm black. Random Asian women aren't going to flock to me no matter where I go lol. Idk how masturbating to simply your imagination is somehow not as bad as porn. Regardless, you're still masturbating and it'll still be part of the reason I can't approach women...
[–]alphaonthecomeup 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Nothing but excuses. And im black too bro. I had all types of women over there want a piece of me. And the best part was it was free of charge.
Stop being a fucking pussy and answering everyone with an excuse.
David Goggins - Can’t Hurt Me. Go listen to the audiobook and get your shit together my nigga. Wtf be a man.
[–]thelambofdeth -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Yea sure. Good for you, mate.
[–]alphaonthecomeup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I’m not flexing on you bro. I’m trying to open your mind. What to you want? Cause I can sit here and call you an ugly piece of shit who’ll never find love or I can push you to just take more chances.
[–]RedEyeBlackEye1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Your body seems good, but try improving your face...THATS the key to unlocking "females showing interest" mode. Try a Zayn Malik (google Zayn facial hair) or style your facial hair like Jeremy Meeks(google Jeremy Meeks facial hair). Also, a good 4-6mm stubble is VERY ATTRACTIVE to women(especially if it's edged up). STOP LETTING YOUR BARBER give you the regular "black man example here" bullshit styles. Also, get a fade haircut. Women will focus LESS on "big scary black man" and MORE on "tall dark and HANDSOME" bc Tyrone is NOT the same as Jamal, he's a different race entirely to 80% of nonblack women.
Good luck, homie.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Umm of course I've been trying to improve my face, that's the most important art. I already keep a close stubble with no neckbeard at all. Also I don't get the "regular" at a barber...stop assuming. I have long hair and wear it in a man bun most times. Idk what the difference between Tyrone and Jamal is and I feel like you just made that up, but I've already been working ln my face with the clean stubble and long, slicked back hair and it hadn't helped.
[–]RedEyeBlackEye1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
DONT GET MISCONSTRUED, IM TRYING TO HELP YOU.
The difference is Jamal looks like the average typical black dude with west African features, poor facial hair THAT DOESNT COMPLIMENT THEIR FACE, and etc.
Tyrone looks the very opposite. I've studied genealogy, phenotypes, geology, and the ppl of the world. I've studied the art of facial hair, haircuts for face shape, and what works for the top 10% of dudes. I literally spent months researching, trying different facial hair,haircuts, watching videos, studies/surveys, etc on what females find attractive and what ACTUALLY MAKES A MAN LOOK HIS BEST. I'm serious about this LOOKSMAX shit, homie.
I'm already getting chicks that treated me "different" doing 180° and some(not all ngl) random females(every skin color) being VERY receptive on sight EVERYWHERE I go. Science works, this shit be real, homie.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Plus take a trip bro to Thailand or Cambodia or Colombia
I'd be VERY CAREFUL when visiting these countries for that purpose.
The tamest danger would be getting an STD from these women, the worst would be that you hooked up with the girl/family member of a dangerous syndicate or cartel and you end up getting cut into pieces just for choosing the wrong woman.
I say this because it has happened in Mexico I believe, that stuff sounds scary lol
[–]alphaonthecomeup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thailand you’re good. Colombia okay. Just be smart
[–]fourwindsgold 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The funny thing is.. your mindset is the only thing in this universe you can actually control
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you have no success with women and they ignore and avoid you, you're not just going to have a positive mindset with them lol. You're just not.
[–]Icy_Active_684 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What do you look like bro? Cant be that bad
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I look like a amalgamation of Lenny Kravitz and Russel Wilson, but ugly.
[–]Icy_Active_684 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro those guys aren’t ugly, I’m guessing you aren’t either
Ofc they're not, but I'm like the ugly version.
[–]Robofrogg1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What doesn’t help with women is your self loathing and constant negativity. NO ONE wants to be around that. Looks don’t matter, money doesn’t matter, the way you dress doesn’t matter. NOTHING ELSE matters if you are just a big, negative, miserable killjoy.
I don't go around whining about my circumstance to random people IRL. I have some social tact lol. What brings about the negatively is how women totally transparent I am to women. It's not that I'm miserable to them and thru just avoid me bc I'm so negative, it's that I get that way bc they're clearly not interested at all.
[–]Robofrogg1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You don’t HAVE to say anything, actually. People will pick up on your negative vibe no matter how much you try to hide it. Especially women, who tend to be more empathetic.
Dude women aren't mystical fairys or some chit...they don't have a spidey sense. If so, how come so many of them wind up with sexist, abusive assholes? Because they're good-looking. The only time you have a negative or "bad" vibe is if you're ugly. That's just code for ugly. Just like "creepy" and "weird". People are pretty shallow and only "pick up" on what you look like tbh. If you're attractive your negativity gets explained away as being "mysterious" or "aloof"...lol
[–]MattPruga 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
you are either blind or don't try, they wont come on their own
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Blind? I look for choosing singals and IOIs all the time. I don't get any. And I would try, if I got any IOIs or choosing signals...see the correlation here?
[–]MattPruga 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Look, I understand. it's easy to say you failed before you even try, I've been there. Heck, I'm still there, I just grab myself by the nuts and force myself in there and stuff happens, not often but it does.
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Well, it's great that you can force yourself to make attempts, I know factually it's not easy. But like I said I've done all the work I can physically and I look for IOIs, choosing signals, hints, whatever. I look for that and I don't get any...that's a clear indication I'm not wanted. There's no point in trying to approach when they're already letting me know there's no interest lol.
[–]MattPruga 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I'll just say this. I'm seeing three women right now, two of which I've met only because I approached them, they gave me no IOI's beforehand. I got in there and said "Hi".
I was never good with women
[–]thelambofdeth 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Welp good for you, mate. You're a better man than I. I have approach anxiety and chit self-esteem. I literally do not have the fortitude to approach a random woman who isn't giving clear interest or at least some signs, especially if she's a different race. That's literally asking to be rejected.
[–]focus_flow69 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Just give up and die alone. Is that what you want to hear? Christ you are an insufferable fuck. Man up and take control of your one and only life. If you spent half the time taking real action instead of shit posting all your negativity on here maybe you'd have some success.
[–]wrongThor 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Change comes when you recognize and stop the negative self talk. Stop telling yourself terrible things.
Bro easier said than done. If women didn't totally avoid and ignore my existence, the self negativity wouldn't be so strong.
[–]wrongThor 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Homie the change within you shouldn't be affected by outside forces. It is easier said than done. Doesn't mean it's impossible. The women that "ignore your existence" will never be the source of your confidence. The women come with confidence, the confidence shouldn't come with women.
Most importantly, women shouldn't be a part of the equation at all. Your confidence should be independent of any external factor but yourself. Women are not the point of confidence. If you're trying to build confidence just for women, you're doing it wrong.
Look for ways to feel better about yourself. Are you working out for yourself or for the women who ignore your existence? Ask yourself the tough questions instead of falling back on "i will never have confidence no matter what I do".
The issue is I'm confident in other areas in my life, but in regards to women I'm not because none of my success in other aspects hasn't really translated to succes with them. I don't to anything bc of them...I dress well and exercise for myself and bc I want to, but when none of the work never aligns with succes with women how can I not have a lapse of confidence in regards them? I'm not trying to build confidence just for women, but my confidence doesn't apply to them.
[–]Robofrogg1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dude are you even for real? All you do is make excuses. Everyone has a negative inner voice that says the same crap you are saying. You can either choose to listen to and believe all that nonsense you tell yourself and be miserable your whole life, or tell it to go to hell, and start living. It’s your choice.
It's not a choice. If you're successful with women then you can tune out the negativity...if you're not then that's all you'll hear. I can't have no women and have no success with them and just choose to be positive about it. Not possible.
[–]dametime223 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Do you approach girls, slide in dms, meet them when going out with buddies or just wanting for an opportunity to knock on the door?
If you don't put yourself out there you have no right to complain G...
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol approaching random women and attempting to slide into literal DMs is only doable if you're really good-looking and I'm kinda ugly, so it's not an option.
[–]dametime223 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I completely understand you, but you can improve your looks. Instead of running 5x/week run once a week and hit the gym 3 (or ideally 4) times a week. Idk if you are skinny or obese but lifting and running can do wonders if done consistently over a longer period of time (few months).
You mentioned that you're into fashion so that's not a problem.
For your face the best you can do to find a haircut that suits you. If you have a beard keep it short and shave it on your neck. Your beard should finish where the jaw ends and neck begins.
Have a skincare routine: Having a clear skin helps a lot, trust me. Buy cleanser, moisturizer and protectant. Wash your face 1-2x a day and use moisturizer and and then protectant.
Wear frames and sunglasses.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro...I basically do all of that. Lol I'm definalty not obese, but I'm not skinny either. I'm lanky with broad shoulders, so all my high fashion stuff fits me well. I can't do a lot of muscle based exercise bc my wardrobe is fitted af and even gaining a few lbs would throw it out of whack lol.
I have long hair and it's almost always slicked back into a bun. And I literally already do that. I shave all the neck hair, and I only keep a stubble everywhere else.
I have hair, skin and grooming regimes to the point of metrosexuality dude. I have face masks, exfoliators, deep cleansers, early morning light Ph early washers, acne washes and creams, spot creams, toners, day and night lotions, etc. Same with my hair...I have a myriad of products for it. I wear TF cologne, I'm uber hygenic, etc.
I wear glasses and sunglasses literally all the time. I wear sunglasses at night ffs lols.
NOW do you see my frustratio? When I say I've already done all the work I can, I mean it. The only thing more I could do is plastic surgery lol
[–]Southern_Database_61 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Confidence is something you from with in
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Confidence is created via success or positive affirmation.
[–]n0wmhat 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
how do you think successful people achieve success?
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
By working at whatever they were trying to be successful. To bad women aren't some binary thing I can objectively get better at lol
[–]n0wmhat -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
its crazy how every thing youve said in this thread has been wrong
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Except nothing I said was wrong.
[–]n0wmhat -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Literally no one agrees with what you are saying man.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Idgaf if anyone agrees, everything I said is true. That's the point.
[–]n0wmhat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You can definitely change your mindset and you can definitely improve with women. I know its hard, I struggle with the same things, but right now I think you are your own biggest obstacle.
[–]letmereaddamnit -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You might be over doing it.
I don't think so. I'm not some guy wearing some flamboyant green and red suit or some overly jacked meat head. I'm a tall lanky guy in a black suit with manbun...man bun... look would work if I wasn't ugly.
[–]letmereaddamnit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Man buns are out of style. It makes people look like hipsters and like they have an insufferable personality in my opinion.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're projecting. You may not like them, but in no way are man buns out of style. They're everywhere.
[–]letmereaddamnit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok
[–]filmmaker1111 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Then you have to sincerely dig deeper and isolate what your sense of “self -worth” is tied to. It’ll help you understand why all of the aforementioned hasn’t helped as you courageously shared. Once you do the proper work there, your confidence will soar, because you will be reminded that you are much more than whatever it is that you “accepted” at some point as incongruent or damaging to your “self worth”.
With added confidence, women pick that shit up and start to magnetize towards you, meaning women either being flirtatious or not . I’ve noticed that when women suddenly become interested and flirtatious with me, it’s usually when I am more confident because something has changed within or and outside of me. So that has sort of served as a great litmus test for me, particularly as it relates to confidence. In other words, when exuding confidence, they move towards me, when not, they go the other way. It’s really interesting shit— although to some it can be viewed as shallow—but I view it more like a social experiment and it’s been effective.
I'm pretty confident in most other areas in my life. The issue is once it pertains to women. I don't wear what I wear or stay fit bc of women....I do it for me and bc I want to. But it's maddening that after all this time that doesn't translate to women. If I was some fat loser who left the house that would be one thing but when everyone says "Work on yourself and women will come" and they don't in my case, there's just no way I can be confident around when they're already refuted me. Even when I'm not I look confident all the. Sometimes too much, so I'm told. You can't be tall, in shape and dress the way I do and not project a certain level or aura of confidence but aside from getting approached once in a blue moon, it's done very little. Women are never drawn into me an start to flirt or whatever no matter how I seem externally. That just doesn't happen to some people.
[–]filmmaker1111 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Have you ever considered that maybe they’re intimidated by your attraction? What I mean is that perhaps they see you as such a good catch, that they presume that you’re out of reach. Aside from that, if that isn’t the case, it could be the emotional and physical effects of you “feeling refuted” that they may be picking up on subconsciously and that energy repels them. Who knows man, but don’t give up on it bro, keep finding reasons to get up and get out there and socialize, with no expectation…that’s usually when shit materializes.
Have you ever considered that maybe they’re intimidated by your attraction? What I mean is that perhaps they see you as such a good catch, that they presume that you’re out of reach
Lolno I haven't bc that makes no sense. Women date up and usually approach men they perceive higher or on a better level...doesn't matter how closed off or unapproachable you seem, if you're attractive women still approach or at least give blunt af signs or subtle choosing singals. I rarely get any of that.
Aside from that, if that isn’t the case, it could be the emotional and physical effects of you “feeling refuted” that they may be picking up on subconsciously and that energy repels them.
....they're women not Professor X. I don't think this is the case.
Who knows man, but don’t give up on it bro, keep finding reasons to get up and get out there and socialize, with no expectation…that’s usually when shit materializes.
It's a bit difficult to will yourself to go out when you keep getting a huge helping of nothing. I never go out with expectations of something happening with women and those expectations are always met lol.
[–]Yeezus_aint_jesus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gotta learn to love yourself and be secure. Try doing combat sports, like boxing, or ju jitsu 1-2x a week. Great workout, learn how to defend yourself and makes you significantly more confident. Going up to a girl is a lot easier than getting jabbed in the face let me tell you lol
[–]sluggyslime 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Are you sure it’s not because you come off as gay? I’m not asking in a mean way, I’m genuinely curious. I’m not saying be ultra macho- because let’s be honest, no one likes that. But I honestly wonder if that’s why you’re having issues with that as well. I saw you don’t approach women though, and confidence in approach is most likely your #1 issue. Maybe you should try working on saying hello and making eye contact and slowly working up to approaching. I used to be very shy and not want to go up to people because I was nervous. If you act like you are nonchalant (not in an asshole way, just kind of like you are friends with everyone already) they will already feel a sense of confidence, or at least it will be a little easier and feel like less pressure eventually. When you see a random person just push yourself to be like “hey, I really like your smile/hat/shoes (whatever you might find cool, etc.) in passing just as like a random compliment or whatever and you’ll find the more you open yourself up to just saying something random like that in passing you’ll be able to approach so much easier because it’ll already be something you’re just comfortable with. Open yourself up to conversation. Stop saying “oh I’m ugly, all I’ve got is porn, oh I’ve got nothing and no one wants me.” No man, you’re not putting in the work to make it happen. Get out of that negative spiral a little at a time. If it makes it easier start talking to the cashier at the grocery store because they’re supposed to talk to customers anyway. Make simple conversation.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I mean I'm not going to say I've never been hit on by a gay guy before but...I don't think I come off that way. I don't have feminine posture, I don't wear bright colors, I'm not flamboyant or any of the things you would see and instantly think "that guy is ghey". Perhaps the fact I don't approach or put any energy toward women while I'm super well-dressed might make some cross assumptions, but that's a reach.
I mean that's the thing...I'm very aloof and nonchalant like just by nature. If anything I've been told I come off as arrogant, pompous, or just disinterred.(I don't think so, but I've been told) Even though on the outside I'm anxious af tying to avoid everything. I guess my height, build and what I wear just kinda emit its own vibe because.
I can talk to guys with no problem. I can just go up to any dude and start a conversation or say "sick boots dude" or whatever. Bc there's no pressure. A guy isn't going to think I'm hitting on him or want something from him, or reject me bc I'm not their type lol. With women, If I find her attractive(which is many bc my standards are low af lols) it's a wrap. If eye contact is made I instantly avert bc I assume it's an accident and I literally cannot go up to her and start a conversation. Hell, on the rare occasions a woman comes up to me, I basically shut it down due to anxiety and assume she was just being nice, not actually interested.
That's what's been plaguing me. I can talk to guys, cashiers, baristas, etc. Like I've had jobs in sales and retail. I can talk to people when I know it's safe and I have a given reason to do so. But when it's a woman I find attractive my brain totally separates the dynamic. If I could literally just introduce myself or maintain eye contact, it would be a stark improvement.
[–]sluggyslime 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Then take time and sit at a coffee shop and nonchalantly make eye contact with random women with no pressure. The no eye contact, I can tell you from my own personal experience/preference, is a turn off and shows low confidence. Maybe you need to find some good therapy podcasts that help boost your self image first. 🤷♀️ But just try to work on one thing at a time until you feel comfortable enough to add something else. Like start with no pressure eye contact (which I find is easier with masks at the moment because then you don’t have to worry about facial expressions as well, just make eye contact) and then move onto eye contact and a simple hello. That’s all it has to be. You do not need to put so much pressure on a simple one time contact with someone lol. Seriously Don’t treat every time you meet an attractive female as a time to prove yourself. Use it as a way to just meet a random person as face value. Don’t make it mean anything else because it honestly doesn’t. Make it a friendly and short interaction.
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude I'm a 6'3 black dude who wears mostly black...there's no such thing as no pressure eye contact if I'm involved lol. If I make eye contact with anyone there's automatic "pressure". If you make eye contact with someone you don't know or aren't talking to its just...kind of weird. And just sitting in a coffee shop trying to make eye contact with women seems awkward af.
I already know what would actually happen: I'd go there for a couple of hours and not look at a single person, then leave. I can't make eye contact with drunk women at a bar who expect it, I can't imagine doing it during the day to random, sober women. And the thought of saying hello or going up to them and introducing myself...why? Why bother them? Why waste my time? It's never going to lead to anything.
[–]sluggyslime 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 oh my god the visual. No but really. Maybe take a walk through the park and say hello to people as you pass? Idk what to tell you man. I guess it’s different as a guy 🤷♀️ But I’m also hella short and not very intimidating so there’s that. I have to make up for my lack of height somewhere. 😂
People don't just say hello to random people at a park lol. Idk maybe the east coast is just different, but people are closed off here and that just isn't a thing that happens...at least not that I ever see. No one ever literally just says hello to me during the day when I'm just out, so it would seem weird if I just randomly said hello to a stranger myself. Just be glad you don't have to deal with this lol
[–]sluggyslime 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ahhhh yeah I’m west coaaaaast babyyyyyy. Hahahaha yeah it is a bit different. I feel like east coast is more business and to a point
A lot of you guys on this thread are really pathetic pushing him down to make yourself feel better, it gives off little dick energy instead of actually trying to help and giving productive feedback.
[–]mightymite88 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's true. I lost 40lbs and got a new wardrobe and suddenly game was like playing on easy mode.
I always had luck before. But now it's so much better it's crazy
I'd really bought into the "inner beauty " thing. But unfortunately it's only half true. Game is possible when your present tation is off. But its exponentially harder
[–]flabsatron 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If your scared to go outside because of how you look then obviously some people care about how you look. In fact, duh, we all have eyes, and we all use them, alot. Make life easier on your fellow humans, give us something nice to look at
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I can relate to what you’re saying because I’ve been in this place before, as recently as 2 years ago. But I think your birds-eye perspective is killing your happiness. You are aware of all the points that women may like (your height is good, your physique is nice, you are fashionable and secure etc) but you’re finding resentment in the world because you’re doing all these things and it’s not getting you anywhere.
This may be controversial in this subreddit, but I would suggest stop doing all that stuff for a month. Don’t run 5x a week, and don’t do your skincare stuff. It’ll be a good reset so that you can know what YOU like. You don’t need to do all that shit to be a participant in this game of life. As a side tangent, if you’ve made good gains, you only need a good gym sesh 2-3 times a week with one of those working on PR’s. Same with cardio, you don’t need to go 5 times. I say need because maybe if you stop for a month, you’ll realize you like it. But then don’t take that aspect of “I’m doing high value shit so they should like me” because you being high value doesn’t matter much in the current dating game. All you have to be is fun.
Think of being fun, think of what fun looks like to you. Be suggestive, be cheeky. Guys masturbate mainly because they have a fear built up of being rejected by women. Be daring, but be respectful. I get that masturbation is tough to curb. Hell, I’ll go on dates where we just make out and I go home and jerk it like crazy. You say you jerk to your imagination, is it your dick going into someone else or is it an image of another dick? I think the whole aspect of you being aware of the tropes of what women like in pop culture are ruining your self-image, both in terms of your growing resentment and sadness that the world isn’t favouring you, and in terms of the fact that you aren’t the main character in your own fantasies. I truly believe if you can visualize it, you can have it. But I don’t mean just visualizing sex. Visualize how you lock eyes with a girl, how you perceive your smile as you say something suggestive to her. Perceive the urge within yourself to touch them, and do it! If she pulls back, allow yourself to understand that you are a big strong man and that her pulling back has nothing to do with (insert your name) but rather as a reflex due to her concerns for her safety. And don’t say you’re bad at visualizing because a ton of dudes are great at visualizing the worst possibilities.
I’ve said this in another post, but women in todays day and age make their own money and the idea that women look for security in men is slowly going to dissipate. Money is cool cuz money lets you be spontaneous and adventurous; those are qualities women value more, so you can be frugal and fun too, and a lot of women in different social circles (indie chicks, gamer chicks, etc) don’t need the money, they just need someone to spark that feeling of “oh I’ll never be bored with this guy”.
To recap, I urge you to stop looking at the grand scheme of things in terms of fwb, old, sidechicks, and all the other things that pop culture feeds you. In fact, I would say that the mere fact that you let those things affect you is a sign that you have too much time on your hands. I get the occasional scrolling of Insta as you’re waking up or hungover, but letting those ideas consume to this degree shows that you’ve entered a circle of vicarious living, which is never going to be good for your mental. I urge you to stop running and doing your skin care. Keep doing fashion because that seems like something you’d do even if no one was paying attention, but if it is for attention, stop that too. By eliminating things that make you a tryhard, you will feel and act and project a sense of grounded ness that perhaps you don’t exude now because you have a demeanour of “I do everything right but no one fucks with me” and people are picking up on that. I also urge you to be fun. Being fun is the key. And be bold! Take what you want (respectfully). We are all tryna find a partner or get our nut off (or both), so be aware of that. You take my advice in this, it will give you the reset you need in order for you to understand what you really like. YOU
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not everything. I usually end up settling for lonely 40-year-olds. The last time I got laid, she said I was one of the cutest young guys she had been with, and she didn't believe me when I said I only lost my virginity a year ago and that I frequent hookers.
[–]jjboy91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I dress good all the time and it never helped me
[–]the_vendetta777 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one is ugly, everyone can look good, but looking good takes genuine effort.
[+]greenlight144000 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
I wish I could I’m naturally skinny and can’t get bigger
[–]MattPruga 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
have you heard about food?
[–]greenlight144000 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I eat a lot of junk and still skinny
[–]MattPruga 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
eat more, count calories
[+]greenlight144000 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have bad genetics and metabolism so I don’t think that would work
[–]MattPruga 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
that's a terrible mindset, how do you know your genetics and metabolism are bad? By that logic fat people should all die from obesity, they have a bad genetics and a bad metabolism so they should give up.
I'm skinny myself, always have been. I started overeating, eating as much as I could. I gained 30lbs in a year, I'm 180lbs (6'4") now, still skinny but looking much better.
It's simple, you can gain weight, you just have a small apetite.
[–]greenlight144000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don’t have a small appetite I eat like a pig.
Some people are just naturally skinny. Take me, I work out daily, and I eat 4000 calories a day just to not lose weight.
[–]alphaonthecomeup 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Go to the gym and get absolutely shredded then. One day your metabolism will slow down. Make sure you have good habits by then
[–]greenlight144000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Skinny genetics will prevent me from getting at least a little muscular
[–]n0wmhat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
thats such bullshit man have you even tried? anyone can gain muscle mass its science.
[–]greenlight144000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I tried gaining weight without even lifting
[–]n0wmhat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
There's your problem then.
[–]greenlight144000 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I eat 2000 calories a day
[–]alphaonthecomeup 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dickhead then eat 3000. 2000 is for motherfuckers trying to maintain. Literally stop with the excuses and go bench. No way you’ll be skinny when you’re benching 2 plates and doing 100 pull ups a day.
Get after it. Wtf. I don’t wanna hear anymore excuses.
[–]n0wmhat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats... normal?
Look if you want to get bigger just go to the gym pretty simple
[–]Minute-Lie-2287 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
That's nothing, that is less than the bare minimum requirement for the average adult male.
I drink more than that in soda alone in a day. Lunch alone is 1200-2000 calories.
I average probably 5400 a day, I'm old, I don't work out and my weight never changes and I sit squarely at 14 percent body fat.
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[–]fourwindsgold 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or he’s jacked
[–]Minute-Lie-2287 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Today's intake...very typical day.
Breakfast....two jimmy deans sausage egg and cheese croissant sandwiches 800 calories.
Snack one sunbelt granola bar 120 calories
Lunch.....double Whopper meal w large fries, large coke and ranch sauce.....1891 calories
Dinner.....subway chicken bacon ranch footlong....1140 calories
Plus 7 bud lights 770 calories
Throughout the day....8 rockstars 2160 calories
Three pepperoni chips unknown calories
Total known calories 6111
Anyway 2400-2800 is healthy for the average adult male. A 2000 calorie diet is a healthy average for a typical adult female....a man who works will die eating that I'm pretty sure.
[–]vorter 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
GOMAD. Gallon of milk a day. Well, I did half GOMAD and it worked alright.
r/Gainit
Rip to the wallet and the toilet.
[–]PaleontologistNo2785 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
2000 is nothing...
I ate 4000 a day to be 90kg
Common sense 101
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