This might sound harsh but you guys seriously need to get off the internet and go outside more. It’s the only way you’ll get better.

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MaleficentFig7578 · 2024-08-31T15:52:11+00:00

I remember my first time going outside. I returned with 12 pussies.

ZenoGeno · 2024-08-31T15:58:48+00:00

I go out almost daily with friends, that in itself is nothing. The other problem is the hobbies, not all hobbies are social, most of them in fact are not, imo the whole "go outside" thing, only applies to people who want to do cold approach or to ones with a large social circle that can meet new people regularly, for the rest, going outside is good for mental health but ain't gonna do jack shit to find you a girl.

Bright_Type_7756 · 2024-08-31T15:50:22+00:00

Couldn't have said it better , everybody has to discover their own style of talking to women & what might work for this guy might go terribly for you . Just a matter of trial and error

epimpstyle · 2024-08-31T19:47:22+00:00

sharing strategies

There are no strategies here on reddit, if someone tries to write a strategy there will be a bunch of people saying "oh no, you are not genuine if you do that".

going out and just making mistakes

This is not a good way to learn because 90% of the time you don't even know what you did wrong. There are theories you need to learn than go and use them, yes you will make some mistakes but at least at that time you will realize what you did wrong and you will know how to recover or fix it.

Kick the shit with them, roast them, whatever - be authentic, and a little spicy, and you'll be surprised how much that works!

"Be authentic".... well... Imagine going to an MMA school and being told to just be confident, believe in yourself, be genuine, be authentic, just improvise in the moment, go with the flow… just hit the other guy as hard as you can! HIT HIM REALLY HARD BRUH! Or whatever “natural game” advice you can think of… isn't this absurd?

if everyone's life was going so well, they wouldn't be here at all.

Not if you make money from such activity. This is like selling a book for $10 "How to make $1000/day", it is extra money, why leave such an opportunity?

Yes, the idea in your post is good to go out, but not blindly, but actually learn a bit and go out to see if what you learn works or not.

mister_k1 · 2024-08-31T20:13:57+00:00

Women are awesome, you just need to see them as people

its gonna sound harsh but its the simpiest comment of the day

TripleDigitNomad · 2024-08-31T22:46:13+00:00

Wrong crowd for this. 90% of the dudes here spend their free time browsing reddit and playing video games and they're not willing to change that.

miyass_miyass · 2024-08-31T15:50:17+00:00

I agree with you to a great extent but I think you're simplifying the process a lot. You're right that practice is more important than theory but you're going too far in the other direction.

Yes taking action is important but honestly your text is mostly a wall of disconnected platitudes.

Like OK, let's be more authentic. How? OK I want to be spicier. How? These are all things I had to practice in very specific ways, just hearing Mark Manson or someone's grandmother say how important it is didn't immediately cure me of my bad mental habits. Knowing the theory of what to do and why helps you inform your practice so that you reliably move in the right direction.

Women are awesome, you just need to see them as people

Yes women are awesome and are people but they also have a radically different sexual psychology to men.

Half of the "resentment" and dating burnout in here — which you are very right to point out — comes from guys in here assuming that women will think and behave like men.

supremekatastrophy · 2024-08-31T15:10:37+00:00

Couldn't agree more.

supremekatastrophy · 2024-08-31T15:10:37+00:00

Couldn't agree more.

Practical_Lie_7203 · 2024-08-31T15:47:45+00:00

Is it bad “treat them like a sexy homie” hits hard and actually is a helpful statement haha

Edit: why downvote? Go outside you miserable fucks

jsdfljsd · 2024-08-31T17:04:55+00:00

I liked the motivation, here I go out to talk to women today. No excuses

MouseAware809 · 2024-08-31T17:53:37+00:00

Whilst I do agree (am having a shower and going out in 1 hour, as its a bit early here in the UK to be going out).

I would rather be like Cajun and have a system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XBErW5NFUI&t=175s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCyZdBjTwbM

Than be like Yakov and just be "having fun" only:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K71nF8sD-do

Hour_One_9504 · 2024-08-31T20:19:53+00:00

Tbh, having 0 expectations and just having fun cause u want to have a good time had made me a woman magnet. i dont ever ask for their number or anything i just vibe and dance with them. By the end of the night some of 'em are actually kinda confused why i didnt ask for their number or social. I just say, i'm just livin tbh. :D next thing ya know im invited to an after party and getting laid, haha.

ChapterWild2982 · 2024-08-31T15:14:12+00:00

HoW dO i bE MoRE sOcIal?

cemj86 · 2024-08-31T17:10:47+00:00

They'll never learn. Only excuses. There is no oversimplifying or other answers but this.

Go out have fun, make your life about you . Women will always be there. They'll fight this and up until the moment they do go out and then it all clicks.

The only way to get better at something or get over fears is exposure. Simple. no one can live your life but you, so figure out your own way. Not listening to others styles. You'll come off unnatural and will continue to play yourselves

videogames_ · 2024-08-31T17:12:10+00:00

yeah the term is keyboard jockey. The ratio should be 80-90% going out and meeting women (don't care how, cafes, rock climbing, building cars, photoshoots, running meetups, school, work (not your boss lol)) and then 10-20% reading the material to get better. The first goal is if you're a hardcase or have issues socializing is to just socialize. Learn how to thread topics like the weather, food, travel, all safe topics. Then flirting is simply humor, teasing, with challenge added. Then logistics, meeting her at a bar within 10 minutes walking distance is ideal. Experience is the one thing that makes this easier. If you're stuck somewhere, ask guy friends for help or that's when you can post here.

Avanni24 · 2024-08-31T17:12:53+00:00

Don't think "this is a potential partner" to every girl you find remotely attractive. You're gonna trip over yourself. Think "this is Stacey, I fw her vibe".

No offense dude, great post and great advice overall, but I can't help but think that if I do this that I'll just get friendzoned and have no chance at an intimate relationship.

Imaginary-Being8395 · 2024-08-31T19:40:39+00:00

I even agree with some things you're saying, but you literally chose to make the most generic post possible. Its even more clear in your responses. Where, when questioned about the effectiveness, you throw vague terms and literally missdirects the conversation to seem like you arent doing things to get woman, when we literally are. You can go out, build a community or whatever, vibe with girls like they're your homies, etc... Then you get friendzoned...

Rikthelazy · 2024-08-31T15:49:13+00:00

True

rzerx · 2024-08-31T18:31:32+00:00

You have to understand, a lot of times dudes do go out but they unfortunately return home empty handed despite the planned tactics, openers and strategies cuz females ain't biting which makes it even more tough to understand why they're failing. When they get home they're displeased, dissatisfied and disappointed in having no results to the extent that they go online on this sub to find out what the fuck theyre doing wrong.

In some cases it's them with like theyr inner game confidence issues or outer game problems where they're not connecting the dots. But from my observations the majority of the problems stems from actually the women that are not being fair. I mean, I see really handsome guys go out there full of confidence and good game but they're still not able to hook these bitches which is strange as fuck, I kid you not.

I know one dude who has good game, confident handsome mudafucka who persuaded some chick off the street on the same day who was a 9 to a bar where they connected and had a good time. He was able to hold her hand, had great convo and the whole 9 yards. He tried texting her after that to meet up a 2nd time and this bitch just done vanished, I kid you fuckin not, real fuckin talk.

You see? So it's not the dudes that are failing game although some are, it's the females that aren't holding up they part in giving dudes the chance they deserve.

Just like in the above example of my friend, I mean, why the fuck would you not give a dude who happens to have a good paying job, handsome as fuck, good build, great confidence and solid future a chance??? Shit like that makes 0 fuckin sense. And it's not the 1st time I seen this situation.

This is why I don't hold any expectations or dreams with no female and why all females are bitches,real talk. The minute you say to yourself in your mind a bitch is fine you put her on a pedestal and gave her away your power. Nah fuck that shit

Title	This might sound harsh but you guys seriously need to get off the internet and go outside more. It’s the only way you’ll get better.
Author	ShadowMercure
Upvotes	127
Comments	65
Date	August 31, 2024 2:56 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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