Is it really true that bunch of Ukraine women run away to other countries and get new Partner or just enjoy their dancing life in night club parties?

former_farmer · 2025-05-30T09:16:02+00:00

I have a friend from Ukraine who left her boyfriend in Ukraine. Moved to Germany and found a new BF there. Yeah it happens.

binsomniac · 2025-05-30T09:44:42+00:00

I've personally met 12 Ukrainian women, that had fled the country ( since the war started ) except one of them, who's working hard in Poland, saving money to help her family, the rest in Spain, Netherlands, Italy and France they have "new" boyfriend's ( some of them a rooster ) and spend their time, spending money ( from their "boyfriend's ) they don't work. 5 of them are married...🤔 The official husbands are fighting, other 3 are widowed ( from war ) but already were "having fun" having a normal life, which of course...🤦‍♂️ Included cheating and partying constantly. I found myself thinking, based on this example, if the situation in my country was the same Would i defend my homeland? My culture perhaps? What I'm sure is that i wouldn't "lift a finger" for many people ( who're not subjected to be drafted ) talking to people in Ibiza ( hospitality workers ) while I take a couple of weeks there. Their personal experience with the Ukrainian women ( war refugees ) was very similar. "It's an evil world, that we live in" please remember to protect yourselves out there!

tiredfromlife2019 · 2025-05-30T10:03:26+00:00

Oh and bro, if a war does happen and you're injured, women will swipe left on you cause they don't want to deal with your issues from the war.

Now this is fine if the women for example from ukraine didn't also say they won't date or fuck men who escaped conscription.

Damned either way.

YoungQuixote · 2025-05-30T09:18:42+00:00

It's clear Feminism in any form is a religion of convenience.

Ukraine or Korea or elsewhere.

Don't expect any consistency in their actions.

Ippomasters · 2025-05-30T09:13:51+00:00

Honestly if women are not being forced to fight like the men they don't deserve to have the same rights.

SeventySoyer · 2025-05-30T10:55:03+00:00

Western feminism has this on/off switch. When it's convenient it's on, when not, off.

When I was dating, I interacted with quite a few Ukrainian females, most of them wanted something extravagant on the first date instead of a simple walk and chat with a coffee like the locals do.

Herodversary · 2025-05-30T08:50:30+00:00

Men are being kidnapped from the streets to die on the front lines while young women earn their money with Onlyfans.

awisepenguin · 2025-05-30T13:35:49+00:00

I was surprised because I initially believed that Western women are doing genuine 'feminism' which is more proactive and prove that they can handle many things as male like supporting and fighting for their countries.

Ask to split the bill and see how quickly their feminism goes caput. It's all teatrics.

tiredfromlife2019 · 2025-05-30T09:29:56+00:00

Yes.

It happened during WW2. An entire term got coined for it called dear John letter.

2025-05-30T10:01:23+00:00

Ukrainian women have always been selling their bodies to rich sugar daddies from the West. The kind of Gen X/Boomer average Joes who are "tired of feminism" and have resorted to going for gold diggers. The difference between then and now is that the women get a green light to leave Ukraine legally and market their bodies on the spot in whichever country they go to.

Meanwhile Ukrainian men are forbidden to leave the country (which is a gross violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Article 13), and being kidnapped and sent to the front lines to be cannon fodder. The men who had girlfriends/wives that left the country probably got cheated on and discarded by their girlfriends/wives in favour of Jean-Pierre.

Tell me again which gender is the oppressed one? Which one is being deprived of basic human rights?!

Red-Pilled-Aussie · 2025-05-30T15:48:21+00:00

Yep. They are partying in western countries while their men are literally dying in a ditch. Makes me sick.

Ok-Consideration8724 · 2025-05-30T10:40:10+00:00

You see feminist are about equality, except for when it’s comes to the dangerous and dirty jobs. There are women who stayed and helped the men defend the country but they have been regulated to admin or support roles. But I have seen TikToks and reels of Ukrainian women living it up in the US and other western countries since this began.

Not a whole lot wrong with it if they’re single women. But if I was a young man fighting the Russians and saw my women rubbing up on some dude at the club, I’d lose my moral will to fight.

Women don’t want to be in these jobs that are predominantly male dominated. War is no different.

2025-05-30T09:28:39+00:00

Women and children were allowed to flee and men were forced to fight a losing war and die in the tens of thousands. So much for gender equality.

mickcheck · 2025-05-30T10:14:45+00:00

Feminism and equality is good only when it is about benefits.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2025-05-30T08:56:13+00:00

Yes, you see lots of them at supermarket or other places

Bugibom · 2025-05-30T09:31:04+00:00

Conscription and military service is such a neglected discussion point worlwide human's rights. I geniuenly do not get it how it is different for armed police to track men down just because they are men than Gestapo runnig around rounding people up just because they were jews.

Poutvora · 2025-05-30T10:06:39+00:00

I was on a date with an Ukrainian woman in Berlin. She went on a Bumble/Tinder date at least three times a week. Those are her own words. Also her own words paraphrased as it was more than two years ago:

"I was on a date with this guy and while we talked, he suddently clapped. I jump scared and looked at him like 'Are you stupid?'. He laughed and asked me what's wrong. This idiot did not understand the trauma I have been through. When the war began, the neighboring city was bombed and I remember those sounds. So when he clapped, sounds like that scare me, it reminds me of the bombing. What an idiot/stupid(don't remember) he was. I did not go on a second date with him."

Now this is a real issue. Or could be. But context matters right? She was a typical superficial eastern girl that mentioned her beauty at least three times during our date. I asked about her family - they are all back in UA. The story she told me did sound exaggerated. I don't know of course, it's just my feeling and there can be trauma. But even if so, she is getting free stuff at least three times a day (most she did was 5 per week), brags about men from dating apps coming to fix her stuff in her flat, talks about how beautiful she is, enjoys good life in Berlin, while her countrymen are dying everyday.

I expected a bit of humbleness or gratefulness from her for how great her life turned around. It just did not sound genuine, but just another reason why she needs to be treated better, pitied and admiried for being strong. Meh.

I felt like even if she has some trauma from the bombing, she should try to be more humble about it for the sake of the men that are dying to protect her homeland. I don't know the proper way of decribing this personality type/trait in english, but it was very offputting.

FeanorOath · 2025-05-30T10:44:00+00:00

Oh yeah, men are kidnapped and forced to the front while women party and have the tike if their life

CarryAccomplished777 · 2025-05-30T15:56:04+00:00

Yes. And it's the main reason why I can't take any Feminist serious.

StatisticianApart452 · 2025-05-30T12:42:32+00:00

It's different, but in Russia women have some type of business: they marry some s1mp, send them to Ukraine, wait while they die and get money for them. One woman can repeat this with different men.

Ens_Einkaufskorb · 2025-05-30T13:22:31+00:00

Have seen many of them on tinder. But i don't know if they are single or have a partner.

Also know a couple of guys who now have a ukrainian Girlfriend.

Secret-Being2474 · 2025-05-30T11:02:04+00:00

To be honest, this issue of FORCING men to fight and die in the most horrific ways in wars they have NOTHING to do with, while allowing women to live their lives as they wish has made me QUESTION god's fairness. What fault has a man done that he was born male and has to suffer in this world just for being born the wrong sex ? A baby boy and a baby girl are born, one is raised to be sacrificed like a lamb while the other is protected like a queen. This issue has affected my faith, HUGELY.

Tallos_Renkaro · 2025-05-30T14:58:27+00:00

I'd dated a Ukrainian woman here in Denmark for a month or so.

I know she's dating someone now. So yeah. They do.

Wayss37 · 2025-05-30T13:08:32+00:00

Western women and genuine feminism? Lol bro

NCC-1701-1 · 2025-05-30T14:28:25+00:00

I bet some feminist will even argue that their men 'abandoned' them and they had no choice. Feminism is whatever they say it is at the time they say it. Honestly can't say anymore if I am willing to fight and die for this place.

KPplumbingBob · 2025-05-30T14:51:12+00:00

95% of ukrainians I see in my country are women. I do know of some who married local guys. I mean it's hard to say how common it is from anecdotal evidence but in general doesn't seem very uncommon.

Same_Sentence_3470 · 2025-05-30T14:02:43+00:00

Is anyone surprised that Ukrainian women started hooking up with other men the day that their husband/fiancé/boyfriend got on the train to go to war? Women that are married and in relationships post videos on social media about their hookups and get thousands of cheering comments and likes from other women. They don’t need a war to occur to hookup.

UbiquitousWobbegong · 2025-05-30T15:45:48+00:00

It's pretty natural. The institution of marriage (or of monogamous relationships) is only so strong. It helps keep people together after the initial burst of infatuation fades and the hard times come around, but you add in ongoing distance and time separated? It's natural to move on emotionally. Unless you have kids together to help anchor you in that relationship, you eventually become strangers. Duty and social obligation can only keep people together so long.

I'm not saying it's right or fair. It's just reality. Ukranian men got shafted by the situation.

SkirtOne8519 · 2025-05-30T19:21:14+00:00

“Women have always been the primary victims of war”

arek229 · 2025-05-30T14:20:49+00:00

That, and other things, although it's bot limited to women, there were many situations where Ukrainian women ran to Poland, took free money used to help not working people and Ukrainians, and then just moved to Canada or Norway.

jessi387 · 2025-05-30T13:51:03+00:00

Yup. I work as a server in a different country. I see tons of single Ukrainian women who come and giggling and order drinks, having the time of their lives. The male kin probably aren’t so lucky

2025-05-30T14:32:31+00:00

Yes, it is true. All of Europe is full of free Ukrainian women now. Women have the easy strategy built into them for the case of war or any other calamity that disadvantages the men close to them. Most of them will deny it in normal times or say something like they don’t have another choice and so on, and it may be true for them. I also believe that they don’t consciously think about it in peacetime. But when a war breaks out, a switch flips in them.

RandomYT05 · 2025-05-30T13:45:17+00:00

Ok-Assistant-1220 · 2025-05-30T19:05:05+00:00

If there were war in your country, and one gender were sent to the frontlines, but YOUR gender was free to leave, i think the majority of women would levae if possible, find a new life away from war. Wouldnt you?

Rare-Discipline3774 · 2025-05-31T04:15:23+00:00

Oh, sweet summer child.

While there are many good feminists, the last time the good ones had a great amount of influence was like, the 60s when Karen DeCrow was up on top, even then the extremists were popular enough to have influence.

Even the earliest feminists like American leader Elizabeth Cady Staunton, who's claim to faim is the Declaration of Sentiments, wanted rights with no responsibilities and even argued that female perpetrated infanticide should be a lesser crime, if not completely forgivable.

mrmensplights · 2025-05-31T07:18:47+00:00

Is it really true that bunch of Ukraine women run away to other countries and get new Partner or just enjoy their dancing life in night club parties?

Yes. Western countries have predominantly granted refugee status to women from Ukraine. Did some googling. 90% of Ukrainian refugees are women and children. Ukraine is under martial law which forbids men 18-60 from leaving the country. There were 23.92 million women in Ukraine, and there has not been 6.3 million refugees. Women and children make up 90% of refugees so constitute 5.67 million. That's 24%.

Infidelity is pretty common in war. Dear John letters are so common they are almost a quintessential experience of being deployed. A 2017 study followed 63 airmen who were deployed for one year and 30% ended up getting cheated on - and that is what they found out about. This article from the New York Times - War Shatters Dating Scene for Women in Ukraine may be revealing a well. Additionally, prior to the war there was already an increasing trend of emigration, and refugee status has accelerated these plans for many women, but they are looking at setting up new lives with new partners whether they stay or go.

I saw videos of Ukraine young male trying to run away from conscription and some Ukraine girls mocking at them.

This is nothing new. For example, look up the White Feather campaign. The pattern has repeated time and again. This has deep roots in men being viewed in utilitarian terms and male disposability.

I was surprised because I initially believed that Western women are doing genuine 'feminism'

Unfortunately, mainstream feminism is consistent in its core belief: that the world is structured around power dynamics and identity, with men as the dominant group who have historically oppressed women. The goal is to channel the resulting anger and group solidarity into political action. A frequent byproduct of this framework is the scapegoating of men. It works so well due to major biological factors and principles from evolutionary psychology that are cross-cultural and universal in both men and women.

Rich_Ad_7493 · 2025-05-31T18:25:59+00:00

Taiwanese man living in Canada here. Yes, lots of feminists in Taiwan ridicule men's unwillingness to go to the Army. They liberate themselves while still using so-called patriarchal values to evaluate and even shame men. They point at men's noses and blamed that men should change conscription on their own if they don't want it rather than calling out women for help. But the reality is, even in Switzerland, where the gender inequality index is the third lowest globally, the single sex conscription still can't be changed. No matter how much so-called patriarchy has been dismantled, nation states always force men to endure violence, including emotional violence like yelling. That's why I try to advocate the concept that "men have no country" just like Virginia Woolf, or I call it antipatriotic MGTOW. I've been trying to persuade men who I can approach to run away from countries imposing conscription on men, but it's not surprising that most of them just stay put and don't action. Maybe some of them have learned helplessness, some others are simply simp.

I think Korean men have better chance to escape than Taiwanese men. I don't know about opportunities to run to other countries, but as far as I know Koreans can participate in Canadian working holiday twice for 2 years per participation, that's four years in total, very well enough time to pursue permanent residency. Taiwanese can only participate once for one year. And the quota for Koreans is 10 times that for Taiwanese.

kochIndustriesRussia · 2025-06-01T18:08:41+00:00

Yes. Canada got thousands of them. Now they all "model" and sell clothes on Facebook marketplace.

DarkFlamesOfInsanity · 2025-06-06T08:44:48+00:00

Is this only true for Ukraine? I see no such posts from Russia's side.

DelKarasique · 2025-05-30T14:00:58+00:00

A little bit of context: Ukraine was (and still is) a pretty poor country, just like most of the former USSR (including Russia). There was - and still is - large-scale corruption, oligarchy, and all that stuff.

Even before the war, immigration was a preferred path for many men and women there (just like in Russia). You could work there, earning 1/5th of what you would get for the same job in Germany or the USA, or you could immigrate and drastically improve your quality of life. Of course, it wasn’t easy to immigrate legally.

Now, after the full-scale war began, barriers were drastically lowered for Ukrainian citizens. It’s now much easier to immigrate - you don’t need a job, proof of income, or an invitation from a future employer, since you’re now considered a refugee.

So, it’s not hard to understand why things are the way they are now.

2025-05-30T11:08:22+00:00

you're from korea!?

please become my friend bro, I have so many things I want to discuss with you.

EirraC010 · 2025-11-17T02:30:52+00:00

Typically in nursing worldwide.

himbeerli · 2025-05-30T08:56:47+00:00

Like with a lot of stuff you see and read online nowadays: There is some truth to it, but take it with a grain of salt when you want to draw generalizations from it.

ownworldman · 2025-05-30T09:42:15+00:00

Ukraine war has the highest proportion of female fighters of all wars so far.

Some Ukrainian women, men and children fled the war and found life in other countries, studying, working, taking care of children. The war has been going on for three years, humans do not stay just stressed and crying in their room for this long, they need new impulses, direction, recreation, social contact. It is stupid to blame the refugees for living and not suffering as much.

It is fairly rare that despite fair number of refugees, crime and similar problems did not rise.

AbysmalDescent · 2025-05-30T15:16:18+00:00

A lot of Ukrainian women flee the war to other countries and eventually do get boyfriends/husbands wherever they end up. Some just party it up but, at the same time, it doesn't really seem fair to expect them to be celibate forever either. A lot of Ukrainian women do end up trying to advocate and increase awareness for Ukraine though, with fundraising, rallying or news-sharing. They are still making efforts to support their country, in a different way(arguably a way that is easier for woman, and harder for men, than direct combat). It's not all bad.

Title	Is it really true that bunch of Ukraine women run away to other countries and get new Partner or just enjoy their dancing life in night club parties?
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Date	May 30, 2025 8:39 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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