For those of you who have gone through a body/physique transformation, have you seen any direct benefit?

I_have_common_sense · 2014-05-23T20:31:41+00:00

I get treated better by everyone.

Newbosterone · 2014-05-23T23:43:31+00:00

My ex thought I was getting too muscular, but only after she noticed that other women were noticing me ಠ_ಠ

thewilburbeast · 2014-05-23T22:30:14+00:00

I've never been fat. Had a beer gut kinda deal going on after college, but worked a job that kept me very active and was able to get rid of it for the most part. I've always had a decent body, not 'built', but not skinny, either. I don't have nice abs or the best muscle tone, but I would say I look alright with no shirt on. I did go through a period, however, where I had dreads and dressed/lived like a dirtbag. Days without showering, didn't shave, big obnoxious ear gauges, a giant hemp rope necklace, it was gross. Attracted girls with a similar style, many of whom weren't horrible, but I still felt that I could do better.

So I cut off the dreads. Shaved my shitty, patchy beard. Took my ridiculous, huge ear gauges out and let them shrink down to a more 'socially acceptable' size. They'll never completely close, unfortunately, they were at about an inch, and if I don't wear anything in them, they look like buttholes. But I wear just plain, black plugs and they seem to work for me. I dress nicer in clothes that accentuate my physique. I shower and groom daily, smell good, and take pride in my appearance. And I quit smoking weed, which had a huge impact on my self-improvement. A stoner will never admit it, but getting superduper high every day makes you lazy and unmotivated as fuck, and costs costs a lot of money that could be much better spent elsewhere.

It should go without saying, but the difference was incredible. Even before dreads, I had long hair that I had grown out since high school. After cutting it all off, everyone I came in contact with (not just women) treated me differently. I was treated with the respect due to a normal looking, nice smelling 24 year old guy with a normal haircut. Lately I've been working out more, skating, hiking, and being as active as possible, and I notice more and more every day how peoples' response to me is more and more positive. I now have a beautiful, amazing girlfriend (and am constantly still flirted with), a better job (not as active, but I remain active outside work) and a much higher level of self confidence. I had never really felt good about myself before.

Don't know if this was exactly what you had in mind with your question, but cut hour hair. Wear clothes that fit and look nice. SMELL GOOD. Shave, or at least trim your face (unless you can grow a badass mountain man beard, in which case do that and tell whoever doesn't like it to fuck off), and be active. You don't have to be jacked. Just don't be fat and sloppy. Also, typed this on my phone, so whatever.

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-23T20:43:39+00:00

I like what I see in the mirror when I wake up, and I am lifting since 6 wks or so. Makes me think positive about future.

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OKJaded · 2014-05-23T21:24:52+00:00

130 pounds and described as 'That super skinny guy' motivated me to start lifting. I range from about 155-160 with a lower BF % then I had then.

Random girls will come up to me and tell me how sexy my arms are, call me 'the guy with muscles over here', ~80% of the girls I sleep with comment 'Goddamn your shoulders are sexy, I dont even like muscular guys. OMG I CANT BELIEVE I SAID THAT GIGGLE GIGGLE GIGGLE'.

I also get a lot more respect from random dudes, they are always curious on how much I can lift. It was a very slow transformation for me. I've been working out pretty much daily for the last 7 years now. I don't see a difference between me at 130 and me at 160, probably because I watched it happen over 7 years, and I always want more! Must lift MORE!

Strangeclouds420 · 2014-05-23T21:17:02+00:00

I had what some would call a major transformation. Played sports in high school and once I stopped I ballooned to 250 in college. Started working out pretty hardcore and now I'm at 195 at 5'11.

The difference is night and day in the way humans interact with me. Post-transformation is when I naturally swallowed the red pill and understood how superficial the world was. Finding the manosphere helped me understand the "why" it was this way. Even withought any game knowledge I noticed women being more open towards me, laughing at stupid stuff that wasn't funny, etc. Men wanted to hang out more with me because a muscular, cool guy in the group helps everyone get pussy. Also, I never get in conflicts. I'm above average enough in size that I feel like other men realize it isn't the hassle.

Achieving maximum physical attractiveness for one's self is necessary in my eyes. It gives you points on the scoreboard before the game starts. If you're not noticing a difference in your environment then you aren't going hard enough in the gym or blind to the reality. Make sure your clothes are fitting you proper so that your shoulders/arms/chest are noticeable and glutes can be appreciated. You know how it goes, they touch you then you touch them in return. Few words needed.

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-24T01:14:52+00:00

To be perfectly honest I get a bigger kick out of little kids looking up to me than chicks checking out. Chicks are petty and fickle, but that look of awe in the eyes of a little kid, that's something special. Makes you want to be a role model or something.

Uedukai · 2014-05-24T07:54:30+00:00

TL;DR : Yes. Quite honestly, "those of us" serious about TRP should ALL be striving to do this.

Having been a swimmer with a ton of mass, quit swimming, losing all that mass, experiencing the twig life, and then lifting for some years; It's pretty evident that physical appearance makes a huge difference for first impressions / pre-selection. People instantly respect you, where as one would normally have to work toward this. The only catch, is that this will only benefit you, if you have the frame and consistency of said frame to go with it. If you have the look, gain respect and display lack of frame, all of that instant respect will go down the hole. However, people will be more forgiving of your fuckups when you have said physique (mainly women), so think of physique as a training wheel for RP theory if you are new to TRP, and currently lack in that social department. Having both muscular physique, and frame associated with it honestly makes majority of men seem subhuman (even those men with frame). There are two parts to TRP, psychological, and physical. One can only eat food for so long before he/she becomes thirsty. That's where I come in to her life (e.g.) and provide the drink she lacked.
If you're just getting into working out, take it seriously and learn the science. Also, once you get into doing it every day, remember this fact... You are a better person today than you were yesterday. This applies for everyday. It's the damn truth, and telling yourself this will only encourage you to become v2.0 of yourself tomorrow, and v2.1 the next day, v2.2 the next day, and so on. Remember that doing nothing will get you nowhere. Telling yourself that you're "going to do this soon" will get you nowhere. Don't make even one excuse, and don't wait. Start today. If you don't you're a straight-up hamster.

IN FACT -- I WANT ALL OF YOU (that are not currently, consistently, and seriously lifting/cutting) TO DO THE FOLLOWING DIRECTLY AFTER READING THIS...

As many pushups as you can, until you can't do them anymore (keep back straight, 90 degree elbow bend, if you're having trouble take it slow and make sure your form is right)
As many situps as you can until you can't do them anymore (Proper form)
Eat MORE food. More healthy food. Eat Meat, Pasta, Potatoes, veggies. Fruit for snacks.

IF YOU ARE TUBBY: Throw on some music, and start jogging everyday. Afraid of what others might think or say? Good. It'll build confidence, and will teach you how to not give a fuck about the dumb-ass opinions of the general BP public. I want you to run, and I want you to sweat. I want you to show up back home fucking sore and exhausted, every. single. day. Also, stop eating unhealthy shit. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what foods are bad for you.
Until you get into a gym, start doing these basic activities. It teaches discipline, consistency, and gets your body back into the field-running, mountain-climbing machine it was meant to be. Don't just do it for the women that are going to find you attractive, do it for yourself

If you're going to pussy out, and are not at least going do these simple tasks, then kindly get the fuck out of this sub. TRP is not about stagnation, or moving backwards. Engrave this post into your skull, and let it marinate.

cookem8 · 2014-05-23T20:48:14+00:00

Like you, I want to think that more women are checking me out, but the only real change I've noticed is that the more you weigh, the more other men respect you or pretend to respect you.

muddynips · 2014-05-23T21:21:25+00:00

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2014-05-24T01:45:44+00:00

I always see that one guy in the mirror 'mirin.

insane_psycho · 2014-05-23T20:26:01+00:00

theres some overt changes with people eyeing you or women approaching you more than they used to but most of it is not verbally communicated. People, especially guys give you more respect. that was definitely the biggest thing ive noticed

CanadianStrangeTamer · 2014-05-23T21:24:04+00:00

It's awesome catching the ladies stare at you in the gym. It's also nice knowing you're stronger than everyone at the gym. I'm pretty happy I was an athletic fat kid, actually. It gave me an unreal base to work off of.

CanadianStrangeTamer · 2014-05-23T21:27:48+00:00

Also, having women walk up to you out of nowhere and ask If you're an athlete is probably one of the best compliments you can get imo.

2014-05-23T21:45:31+00:00

With every good pound I gain and every bad pound I lose, it seems like life gets easier.

2014-05-24T01:17:02+00:00

You dont realise because it happens so slow but people do treat you differently. If you went from skinny and unfit to larger athletic in a day it would blow your mind.

The moment my braces came off, people treated me so much better. So many girls all of a sudden.

updown667 · 2014-05-25T22:55:04+00:00

I'll try to keep it short and sweet

before (>2.5years ago) Male, 18, 125lbs, 5'9, 1RM max lifts: bench 45kg, ohp 25kg, deadlift 60kg, squat, 50kg. I was weak as shit, shy, unconfident, terrible posture, looked bad, was a timid feminine creature who was dire with girls

Now - after serious fucking lifestlye change 20y/o 5'11, 195lbs, lifts have pretty much tripled and those are for sets of 5. I'm extremely confident, extroverted, cocky, decent looking, happier, more respected by everyone, have an aura about me of alphaness when i walk into a room, intimidating to a few people, girls like physical strenth. Its such a change. Every single person treats me better - people laugh at my jokes a fuckload now too because of my physical change (also helped along by the change in personality due to it).

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-24T00:55:43+00:00

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alclarkey · 2014-05-24T08:54:35+00:00

I saw this teenager maybe 14-15 years with next to no muscle mass at all. Drawing a stick figurine might have been an accurate depiction. I was disgusted. Most teenagers while they don't look ripped, don't elicit this reaction from me. It looked like the kid hadn't done an ounce of work in his entire life.

raceAround126 · 2014-05-24T10:03:25+00:00

YES!

A thousand times YES!!!

When I was a fat lardbutt, I was awkward, clumsy and people treated me that way. My embarrassment when I was at a family function and I went to sit on a barstool. My Uncle - not even as a joke - put a second one beside it and said "There, that should be enough support!"

I'm in shape now. People I don't know have even commented that I look far younger than 30! A couple of those I fucked that evening.

People are more respectful, they listen to you, they immediately stop talking when you start... it's an eerie change.

Get in shape and keep going. Don't stop for anything!

greatest_mistake · 2014-05-25T14:28:54+00:00

400lb deadlift is impressive. My max is prob only 325 but I'm happy with it.

Lifting changed my life. I get comments all the time from men and women. Just a couple recent examples come to mind. The other day I was at a friends house. We ended up in a hot tub. Was me, another guy, and two girls, one of which I knew very well. The other girl was attractive and I never met her before. Everytime I got out of the tub to go to the bathroom or get a drink, I noticed she kept looking away or shielding her eyes from me. After a few times of this I asked her what she was doing because it was super obvious. She tells me my stomach is driving her nuts and she's trying to get herself excited.

It was amazing to hear that from an attractive girl I never met before. I lift because I love the way it makes me feel but becoming more visually appealing to others is a nice side effect.

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-24T02:58:44+00:00

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Air4ce1 · 2014-05-24T02:45:55+00:00

The majority of your compliments will be guys. The girls DO notice, they just don't say it. If you talk to them long enough it will slip out though. People stop to hear me talk now that I have a lot of muscle (I'm the stereotypical "big black guy") which in my profession (military) pays HUGE dividends.

trpMilo · 2014-05-24T03:32:44+00:00

Lifting 7 years. You better believe it. Also don't post that shit on FB

szip88 · 2014-05-24T04:14:57+00:00

Currently I'm at 220lbs, 6'1. It has been a struggle to get big arms and a big chest but after 7 years of amateur, off and on, steady and slow progress I'm extremely happy with how I look.

I can put a L t shirt and it just fits perfectly, on the arms, traps, shoulders pop out all nice. This is going to sound cheesy....but I feel like there is an aura and just feel like I stand out everywhere I go, I catch girls and guys checking me out all the time. I love it, guys give you respect, women have become really easy to talk to. The confidence from all this is great, this is something that You earn with hard work and it truly pays off. Keep going

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-24T04:26:14+00:00

Fuuuuuck yea I've seen it.

I've been fat my entire life. Just now am I working on losing that last body fat. You're pretty much ignored when you're fat, mostly by the other sex. Other men shit all over you, especially the muscle bound ones. Two decades of this, ever since first grade pretty much. It taught me that people can be completely superficial. People are completely superficial.

As soon as I got married and literally did a 180 and became the 6 foot, muscle-bound, red-blooded male that I always felt I was, everything pretty much changed overnight. I've been a stylish person for a few years but now my slim fit shirts and jeans look amazing. Women ogling and flirting constantly. Men asking me where to buy clothes and shoes. It's really the best thing when I meet a couple and the woman starts throwing compliments and the man moves in to get in-between us; but then he starts to get enamored with me (mostly talking sports, golf, politics, motorcycles, exotic automobiles, world history, etc. IE everything that fascinates me about living in this world) and I instantly make two new acquaintances.

I've had groups of men walk past me on the street, point straight at me and say, "Hey that's greatishten. He's works @ redacted. He's a good man. You guys should do business with him."

I already had a, "I don't give a shit what you think," attitude from all the bullying growing up. Now my style, charisma, and physicality have amplified that and I'm pretty much a magnet to other people.

If I would've told myself 10 years ago (17 years old) that I would be a lean, mean, Harley-Davidson-riding machine I would've said I was lying.

It's been a complete turn around since high school. It may be true that you never leave the high school mindset. But the trials have made me have to work for it. Lately I've been seeing more and more old schoolmates from high school. Most are struggling, constantly asking for money or telling me how down on their luck they are. Especially the popular ones. I always thought it was petty to think that the popular kids would fade and loners would succeed; but seeing this in action is impressive to say the least.

slkrk · 2014-05-24T05:04:07+00:00

OP, post a pic so we can critique your physique. It would give us a better idea on what you think fit is.

At the very least, post stats.

Aroooooo · 2014-05-24T14:31:16+00:00

[somewhat offtopic]

I trust you more than fittit: What do you guys think about starting skinnyfats? Cut, bulk, or eat at maintenance?

atm I clock in @ 5'10" 165lbs, but I don't have a good BF%. Probably upper teens if not 20%.

Should I lean down to 150lbs before starting a slow bulk? Has anyone got any before/after pictures of going from skinnyfat to jacked?

I've been lifting for 2 months and enjoying my noobgains, but pretty soon I'm going to have to decide between cut or bulk.

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Bible_Black · 2014-05-24T08:40:59+00:00

I was walking through the City centre yesterday and I was passing a group of girls and one of them blurted out, "wide-boy could smash all day."

I'm not even that wide, silly bitch. At best my physique could be described as cut. Kinda like Nick Diaz. I only work-out at home, I don't take any gear and the only equipment I use is a bench and a pair of 28lb dumb-bells.

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-24T11:39:06+00:00

It is much, much easier to pick up women the larger you get. Going from a lean 185 to a lean 205 made a HUGE difference for me.

Zammyk · 2014-05-24T14:13:03+00:00

I've been lifting for many years now. I'm 6'4" and 242 lbs, currently cutting.

For one, weightlifting helped me gain confidence, which ultimately led me to finding the red pill. It also feels good to look in the mirror and see all that hard work pay off.

As for people noticing, my friends usually comment on how I'm the big guy in the group, and I had a few women mire me too, but that's about it.

Ultimately, lift weights to make yourself better and stronger, not to gain validation from others.

pleasedontknowme30 · 2014-05-30T23:54:10+00:00

A physique transformation is the greatest addition to someone's game. Big time.

I've been working out for about 2 years now and I went from skinny fat to a nice body, 14-15% body fat, nice biceps, v-shape torso, abs are there but not showing yet.

Women notice. My gf can't get enough of my body, she loves to touch it, feel it, and much more.

When I met a new woman sooner or later the topic of me working out comes up and... they want to touch.

Could be that I am an older redditor at 52, and that with my body I am in the 1% minority but... I have notice a difference, a big difference with women.

AWiseBro · 2014-05-24T00:08:11+00:00

If you're only pulling 400 then your physique can't be far above average. You probably look better than the average guy but odds are you don't stick out that well yet. If you haven't noticed a clear difference in women checking you out then you've got a lot of progress to make. My build is far above average. I quite frequently catch women blankly staring at me then frantically attempting to look busy. Drunk women also approach me at an absurd rate. It's not just about being more attractive to chicks either. Everything about you screams follow me I know the way. People in general want to get to know you and will be drawn to you.

I'm sure you've come a long way from where you started and thats great. That being said you've probably got a bit of a ways to go before your build is truly impressive. It can be done by anyone, you just need to remain committed. Until it becomes obvious that you broke into that top 20% of men you probably won't notice much. There is a breaking point where everything changes dramatically and once you get there you will know.

Title	For those of you who have gone through a body/physique transformation, have you seen any direct benefit?
Author	pleasedontknowme30
Upvotes	16
Comments	114
Date	May 23, 2014 8:12 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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