So love is fake?

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January 21, 2019
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Im shocked by a lot of shit im reading here.. im new here.

I'm 20, working out for 5 years now (decent shape), own my own company.. been working on self improvement for a long time.

Is love fake? Are my visions of finding a solid loyal, high class woman who's hot unrealistic? From a lot of what I read here, it sounds like marriage or monogamy is not worth it..

Can someone explain Hypergamy more to me? Will a women just leave you at the drop of a dime for something better? Im fucking in shock..


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Title So love is fake?
Author Crexty
Upvotes 99
Comments 116
Date 21 January 2019 05:35 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/171025
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/ai6yhe/so_love_is_fake/
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[–]Chadster113188 points189 points  (15 children) | Copy

Society's idea of love is fake.

[–]1rad_dynamic85 points86 points  (12 children) | Copy

Society's idea of falling in love is fake.

It is a fantasy. There is both feminine love and masculine love. The feminine love story is the beauty and the beast, whereas the male love story is that of becoming the hero and as a result getting the virgin princess.

[–]bondbandito10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

I like this analogy of beauty and the beast - care to explain in detail what that entails?

[–]1rad_dynamic30 points31 points  (2 children) | Copy

From Disney. It's an archetypal story which appears across many cultures. Disney just implements it the best and its something we are all familiar too. Essentially, the woman finds a beast with superior powers-someone that is the opposite of what you would want to date. Then, the woman ends up turning the beast into a loving mortal with feelings and emotion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfbk5q3Wsic

[–]_the_shape_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then, the woman ends up turning the beast into a loving mortal with feelings and emotion.

Even as a kid, I used to joke about a hypothetical sequel, with slamming of doors and shouting at one another from opposite ends of the house, an explosion of pent-up resentment and contempt after years and years of monotony following the total evaporation of the honeymoon phase.

Would probably be thoroughly enjoyed by the crew over on the deadbedroom sub.

[–]bondbandito1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good point

[–]aanarchist21 points22 points  (6 children) | Copy

Being the special snowflake that convinces a violent criminal to change into a "better person" just for her. That's beauty and the beast in a nutshell, or Stockholm syndrome.

[–]Kommanderdude 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

It’s so true. I know so many women that are doctors and lawyers that are married to do dudes that are drug dealers and criminal scum on general. Hell one guy was letting people steal their cars to pay back his drug debt.

[–]aanarchist1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Try a pastor's wife picking up a bum off the street and fucking him in her marital bed. I don't mean to dispute the red pill godfathers saying how hypergamy looks for the best gene quality first and foremost, but my spider sense tells me that the reasoning for picking a lowlife has less to do with gene quality and more likely a case of mental retardation.

[–]Kommanderdude 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

More than likely she is mentally broken. A trend that I’m seeing more and more with religious women.

[–]aanarchist3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some religious circles are good but others are catastrophically bad that its no wonder both the men and women are so fucked in the head.

[–]KitMindhead1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women have needs too. Most women I am with get cranky if I haven't fucked her in a few days. 'What? you don't want to have sex with me anymore?" The pastor's wife is not getting fucked properly ever.

[–]aanarchist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A dirty horny and desperate bum will likely help her with that, even if she's below erection threshold he'll do it for the bowl of soup alone, and a loaf of bread for every time he makes her cum.

[–]Zanford2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every woman wants a strong, wild bad boy who becomes a prince for her.

[–]fignootins27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why the hell is society always trying to live in the fantasy of a teenage girl?

-Dr. Jordan peterson

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

perfectly said

[–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (17 children) | Copy

At least you discover that at 20. I crashed my world views at 25. You should be grateful, cuz you're going to save lots of time.

[–]ethbytes72 points73 points  (13 children) | Copy

Try mid forties... Better late than never. ;)

[–]onlinehumzu8 points9 points  (11 children) | Copy

Try 16

[–]serve_my_goddess54 points55 points  (9 children) | Copy

Try 58. Gtfo kid.

[–]onlinehumzu60 points61 points  (0 children) | Copy

You win grandpa

[–]aanarchist23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

damn you could probably write a book on getting red pilled at that age, that takes balls to adapt your mind so late in the game.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

Try 83 kid

[–]serve_my_goddess1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What? Is your wife even around?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao nah I be spinning plates at the retirement home

[–]Williewonkajr2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Try 15

[–]Emerald__Faith5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

How did you become red pill at this age?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

tf dude

You think you just stop being yourself at X age

[–]OfficerWade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

FBI OPEN UP

[–]throwawaybpdnpd3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

25 here too, we rockin

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a 22 year old still getting over an ex, i enjoyed this comment.

[–]DeatCoreBoy10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

26

[–]slaterhuckle57 points58 points  (5 children) | Copy

I think people who take a super hardline approach to red pill think that love is an illusion and they take this approach to ultimately protect themselves. Its like a failsafe or something - don't fall in love don't get oneitis and you will always be ok. But love is real and brings great joy but also much suffering. Such is the human experience. Live in the moment and be your best self, accept that whatever you may feel as love or whatever a woman tells you doesn't matter because it can all be gone tomorrow. Also read everything in the sidebar.

[–]Leaves4Good6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well said. There is no black and white. It's up to a man himself to decide what he wants: a path of ruthless safety or a path of tragic happiness. Doesn't mean you can't be red pilled, though.

[–]NeuroBoss310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wisdom right here!

[–]DeatCoreBoy15 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree. Just need to be aware of who are you falling in love with. As someone said above, monogamy is a concession. You exchange for something that is worth it.

[–]fds_12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem is that oneits and falling in love generally makes you lose frame. It's impossible to love something and still have the IDGAF mentality about it, you care and that's why you get hurt. There is nothing wrong with this, pain makes us grow but the sad truth is, oneits turns you into a needy beta really fast.

[–]IndianaBW1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

accept that whatever you may feel as love or whatever a woman tells you doesn't matter because it can all be gone tomorrow

Well put.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper86 points87 points  (25 children) | Copy

Is love fake?

No. But stop looking for the wrong kind.

Are my visions of finding a solid loyal, high class woman who's hot unrealistic?

Yes. You don't find quality women, you train them. Pick one that's not ruined yet.

From a lot of what I read here, it sounds like marriage or monogamy is not worth it..

Marriage is an insane risk because there's no payoff.

Monogamy isn't "worth it", because it's a concession. You EXCHANGE it for something that's "worth it".

[–]Pajca8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

How do you train women?

Can you explain or link some posts?

[–]buttgoogler19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here and here.

[–]Wakawakaheihei2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. That's what I did with mine. You're not going to find a good woman right off the bat. But you can find one that's not damaged and use pimp tactics to improve her.

[–]biezpiens1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

can you elaborate on "picking one that's not ruined?" what criteria deferments that?

[–]StrongAffordance 1 points [recovered]  (9 children) | Copy

High n count, higher education indoctrination, feminism, etc.

[–]biezpiens1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

8 partners at 30 considered high for female?

[–]An_Actual_Politician10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Just a heads up that women routinely lie about their N counts. I mean all of them, especially once they get up past a few and the shame starts creeping in.

Take that 8, divide it by two and add that to her professed total. She's at at least a dozen, if not more.

[–]organicfluxx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No equation is worthwhile anymore. You have to guess based on her sexual competence.

[–]spacebeerpickles 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Weird, I'm a woman and have never lied about that. Do I not exist? Does this mean I get to leave work early?

[–]An_Actual_Politician1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

There you have it fellas. Pack it up. If one case to the contrary exists, then we can't make incredibly accurate assumptions for the other 99%.

[–]RedHoodhandles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Funny that you count higher education as a red flag. So simpletons are the better LTRs?

[–]DeatCoreBoy10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wait, but according to what I've read, all these Soul Mate myths is fake and you cant create one from available resources. You should just find a better partner. Could you be more specific, please? I'm a newbie on all this.

[–]RedHoodhandles0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why should I train them? For what? I'm not marrying her. I'm not having kids with her. And if she has an emotional day and spreads her legs for a rando chad, all this 'training' for something more permanent was for nothing. Sounds like a lot of work for something as fleeting as todays relationships with women of any kind.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you OP?

No?

Then when did I advise you to do anything? No one told you that you have to do jack shit. OP asked a question. I answered it.

If you want to do hookups, eventually get cheated on, and replace as necessary, then who's stopping you?

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What awesome classic posts. It will be a sad day the day you leave the sub. Have you thought of compiling your best posts into a book?

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

There is a book project in the works, but it won't just be a compilation of articles. It will be a comprehensive work.

I have lined up a psychologist with academic credentials who wishes to collaborate. But there's some logistical stuff that needs clearing before we can start.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have lined up a psychologist with academic credentials

If you're going for book sales then that's even more important than having something to say.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Could I prod you on the subject matter?

You're probably the most articulate member on this sub in terms of conveying complex concepts into digestible, understandable simplicity.

I would read it on those grounds alone.

[–]patacsiipse25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should read the sidebar of this subreddit, it explains all of those questions of yours in an easily understandable manner.

[–]Velebit21 points22 points  (13 children) | Copy

Read EVERYTHING on oxytocin on wikipedia.

[–]ethbytes7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

This; those damn Biology tricks... Like withdrawal from crack. The thing that can destroy you, you crave. Fight it with knowledge.

[–]bondbandito2 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

What is the capacity you would say of using oxytocin to bind women? Is using sex to keep her bonded a total Male fantasy?

[–]Velebit14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy

Cuddling after sex, unprotected sex with her absorbing your cum also, and dread game.

I have read a scientific article that there is a restart to attraction if your partner sees you 'cheating' and that it goes both ways. Basically making sure she sees you hanging around with better options.

Also changing the environment your partner sees you. If all you two do is dinner, club, tv and sex... this will get old fast. Her seeing you train in gym, help in a soup kitchen, climb a hill, scream in a amusement park, cry when your relative dies, celebrate after your country wins, handle a skiing trip and so on... this is what also gives those 'restarts' and the brain has to rearrange neurons to fit the new image somehow, creating a new person over and over.

This is vastly reliant on emotional health and lack of baggage on both sides.

[–]Blackcurls 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

Wait, wait, wait. This is super interesting. Can you go even more in depth? Any articles I can read on this?

[–]Velebit2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Sure. I am a lover of statistics and research so I read scientific reports all the time. Just google ncbi and some words related to whatever you are interested in and then search later again for those things on wikipedia.

There was recently an article that scientifically proved that men scoring in certain specific traits get laid vastly more then other. I tried linking it but this subreddit does not allow links.

Try 'Men with THESE personality traits have the most sex, study reveals' on google.

There is AI software that can with high certainty predict if some people are compatible or not and so on.

For example there is a study showing stoicism in women is more necessary for a relationship to last then stoicism in men. 'Emotion regulation predicts marital satisfaction more then a wives tale'.

Basically science shows some trp ideas are truly correct, but some are actually blue or even blackpilled. There is however resistance to research on group differences in relationship dynamics despite substantial initial proof that there are differences between genetic and epigenetic groups (races and lowlander vs highlander people for example).

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are a very interesting poster, sir.

Basically science shows some trp ideas are truly correct, but some are actually blue or even blackpilled.

You should really do a post on this and highlight some of the latter.

[–]bondbandito0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Basically science shows some trp ideas are truly correct, but some are actually blue or even blackpilled.

Very interesting, would like to hear an article of it on TRP by you especially for the latter points.

There is however resistance to research on group differences in relationship dynamics despite substantial initial proof that there are differences between genetic and epigenetic groups (races and lowlander vs highlander people for example).

I'm Asian and always wondered if the reason why foreign girls react differently to different frames of guys is genetic rather than just cultural. I always felt that the non-Asian girls were more willing to take risks sexually (be it cheat or have ONS) than Asian girls, and it seemed the body language in kino itself was even different. If there were indeed some genetic correlations I would be very interested in reading them.

[–]Velebit1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would have to organize data and find all the bookmarks I took and also articles I did not. Watch for example latest Black Pidgeon Speaks video about how science proves that faces predictably and reliably show respect for rules or criminality. That is a black pill. Think red, blue and black as philosophical equivalents to republican macho bravado vigour (fake it till you make it style), blue with democratic soft emotive altruism (make love not war), and black with fascist cold hearted naturalist anti idealism (it is what it is).

There are vast differences in biology and they are not merely racial. In my country, people who are of farmer tribal descent (plains) are shorter and have stockier builds, larger wrists, have alopecia by 40 and are into different sports, they have better V shape shoulders to iliac. Their faces are mostly oval. Genetic testing shows they have mostly R1a genes, the hill people or genetically I2 genes are taller, have small wrists and lankier builds have much less of a V shape, they almost always keep their hair into old age (most of our politicians have full hair despite being over 60), have stronger jaws. Also the north people tended to have patriarchy while the southern egalitarian family.

I find it a noticable difference interacting with girls from the other region despite them being of same race and culture as I am. They are a different phenotype and it is very hard (and probably pointless) to wonder where the exact ratio of biology and culture is, a biology that has an advantage in something will build a culture around it. Asians have more asexual culture as an expansion on less active sexual genes (easily measured by various size comparisons between races).

That being said. Black and I mean African, not black American women are NOT at all into all the games and 'feminine' behavior and hard to get bullshit.

There are genetic and epigenetic differences between various populations in testosterone, testosterone receptors, longevity of various body parts that make certain neurotransmitors and hormones and so on. You are correct with body language as different chemicals and genes in brain can be seen in body language. All the sexually dominant women I have met have very 'unfeminine' body language.

[–]bondbandito0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great read, would love for an introduction piece to your ideas on a blog or article

[–]bondbandito0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just read the article.

Really interesting. Yes indeed a lot of traditionally bluepilled traits like agreeableness and conscientiousness which lead to more sex.

I suppose where TRP traditionally has this mental model of the ideal male being a beastial psychopath that pumps and dumps at his whimp and fancies - trying to compare against my actual observations it does measure up that the best guys at game are always judicious rather than dismissive of even the girls points (even if he knows she is just a silly child).

I believe conscientiousness was the Big 5 trait noted to be greatly correlated with career success and indeed a wild man with no purpose or mission would not be a helpful trait for women to carry on in their children. Yet I would expect that on first glance conscientiousness strikes people as a cuck trait - conjuring the image of the dutiful thoughtful provider husband, contrasted to the bad boy who is a rebel without a cause.

[–]bondbandito0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Would you say then that a jack-of-all-trades with a decent ability to handle a bunch of stuff rather than a guy who can only show her he is a master in one would handle the girl better?

[–]Velebit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Correct. Being a great provider generally means you are at work most of the time, being a dedicated protector probably means you are an mma gun nut or one of those preppers... being a workaholic who is also in a gym/gun range all the time literally makes you a shit partner.

You might give her the tingles but unless your parenting skills and your communication skills measure up its useless in long term.

Especially considering overall crime and especially violent crime and famine are at historic lows so the tiny part of human mind that is rational will always see that as a waste of time.

This does not stop the hyperproduction of all the personal trainers and shit like that.

[–]daymi3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is using sex to keep her bonded a total Male fantasy?

Nope. Works 100%.

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits45 points46 points  (1 child) | Copy

OK so hypergamy is real, and all women are hypergamous; but they are hypergamous to varying extents.

Will a woman leave you if something better comes along? Not exactly. What occurs is she makes an implicit assessment of cheating/leaving's expected value. In other words, is the risk of pursuing this better option worth losing you should you refuse to take her back when she monkey-branches? So maybe she'll encounter some guy who has higher SMV than you, and maybe there is a 50% probability he'll commit to her and a 100% chance you won't take her back. She might stay with you just because the opportunity of increased partner SMV isn't worth the potential loss of that which she has.

That being said, let us say you have your best possible girl as a partner. Now a version of you comes along who is identical to you in every conceivable regard, except that he makes twice as much money. Now let's say that there is a 100% chance that he'd commit to your girl, and your girl knows this. She will monkey-branch.

[–]Totsean11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Start with self love and then let someone else join it but keep your frame.

[–]TheStumblingWolf10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love is a function in us that makes sure we don't die out, and that our offspring receives protection. That's its function. Even if you were to find such a person there's such a thing as time. Mainstream media would have you believe finding love is the goal, but it's not. That's just the beginning. A relationship requires constant work, and everything could happen. You could get fat and lose her attraction, she could get fat and lose yours. You could both change so much that you didn't wanna be with each other any more. Shortly - Life and everything in it is an endeavor that requires constant attention.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K188 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not that love is fake. It's just not the kind of love that the Blue Pill has us believe. That wonderful idea of 'unconditional' love. Love will not conquer all, or be forever lasting. If we don't do our shit as men, women can eventually lose attraction, and no relationship will continue to bubble without a base level of sexual attraction.

Don't do your shit as a man, and she will consider branching out. Also, don't be a weak beta provider, and think this magical disney land love will land you the women of your dreams, and she'll, without other motivation, fulfill your every desire.

Much more real human shit to it all.

[–]menial_optimist8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The hard truths: Attraction always matters, and love is real but always conditional. Men will always have the burden of performance. With few exceptions, you can never really let your full guard down and be completely vulnerable to a woman for very long. The only unconditional love that exists is between parents and their children.

Things can and often do change on a dime. You could have a perfect fairytale marriage for 7 years and the 8th year in things blow apart

[–]HitMan88118 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The romanticized idea of love is fake.... welcome to the RP my friend, it’s a deep rabbit hole. Good luck

[–]VisiblePlan10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love in romance films is fake. But I love my family. It is possible to get a familial bond with a girl. But you also have to abide by RP rules. And always be ready to walk at any moment

[–]Blackboxbrownstrip4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

One-sided love: bad for the experiencer.

Both-sided love good. Just use trp skills and have a healthy relationship. if break up just accept, suffer then move on.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men think they need love when they're really seeking admiration and respect.

[–]PolesWithGoals6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love in modern society is fake news. It’s not about connection it’s more about attraction these days

[–]1InformalCriticism2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is love fake?

You really have to define the word for your own benefit. The real problem comes when you realize that no matter what love means to you, it means something entirely different to a woman. Love for men is far more pure, whereas with women love is just the pile of emotions that are leftover after you've given her everything she wants (but not everything she has asked for -- never do this if you want an emotional connection to last).

Are my visions of finding a solid loyal, high class woman who's hot unrealistic?

Yes, sort of -- there are no unicorns; you'll always have to contend with female nature, but if you're looking for a hottie with good parents, they're out there, but you're wasting your time if you think you can be so lucky as to find one. And not just lucky, more lucky than any man in history now thanks to feminism and all the garbage they're/we're taught in public school and society.

Can someone explain Hypergamy more to me?

There are tons of ways to explain it, but if you're totally new, then maybe it would help to give you an imaginary example using your own ideals.

Let's say you get a loyal, high class woman who is hot. Well, now what? You settle into a life of monogamy, you have achieved what you wanted, but then a year rolls by. Well, thanks to how hot, loyal, and classy this chick is, it affords you access to a large social circle of other women who are hot, classy, and loyal. Well, after a year of looking at the menu and mingling with all these other women, you just start getting the feeling that you could do better, and it turns out you're just the type of guy that all these women want.

This situation is built into female nature. No woman can help but experience this type of solipsism. After re-reading that example, I can say it wasn't perfect, but it gives you a first step into the empathy you'll need in order to detect hypergamy when you see it. Women are constantly bombarded with attention and emotion that makes their hypergamy irresistible in many situations.

Female hypergamy can focus on a lot of different attributes that you may not have. Just because you're financially successful doesn't mean she's constantly looking for the next nutsack attached to a larger pile of cash -- nothing you are on your resume is ever enough to keep a woman. Hell, Johnny Depp's ex started dating a famous billionaire after she (falsely?) accused Depp of being physically abusive.

This was given to me recently as a more rounded explanation of what hypergamy is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r6kKn5_hUc&t=581s

Im fucking in shock.

I would say get used to it, but there's really no getting used to it, especially if you were "blue-pilled" hard enough. It took me around 3 years to get both hands around how unrealistic the portrayal of attraction is in society. It's one thing to read about it on a forum, and it's another thing entirely to peel back the onion of the world as you live out your life. I can only put it this way, it'll always be shocking, but you'll slowly stop being surprised.

From false rape accusations, to divorce rape, to serial cheating, to paternity fraud, to sperm jacking, to chasing sperm donors down for child support, etc.; the list goes on. It's all shocking and depraved through the eyes of someone who just wanted a simple life free of drama, simple expectations of a significant other, but through time you'll understand that it's all just various shades of female nature revealed.

Good luck to you man. Is sounds like you have a great start in life. Don't let that change, but I also hope you learn enough now when you're young to avoid the pitfalls so many have made before you.

[–]RedSkeller2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It benefits many organizations (governments, societies, powerful men) for there to be marriage and love. Frankly, most people are just too fucking boring and live miserable lives but everyone gets a chance to have their own 'love story' even if it's bullshit. Don't read here and think you need to stop caring for people in your life because you don't. Understand that every relationship is transnational and if you're not bringing something to the table they will leave, friends and women. And don't save hos.

[–]CRGRO2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Be careful reading the sub dude. Some of the things on here are dubious insofar as how can you really verify the information is coming from a credible source? It's dangerous to stumble into TRP to the extent you find "RP" strategy, theory, and methodology that's nothing but a halfassed echochamber from a poster whom wishes he could have been someone instead of himself. Be careful, lest you want to buy brand name and accidentally find out three months from now you've been buying generic. People here like to steal accomplishments from others since they're in short supply within their own life due to the difficult nature accompanied with them. Read more.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

methodology that's nothing but a halfassed echochamber from a poster whom wishes he could have been someone instead of himself.

Very good point and I've often wondered about the actual experiences of posters here. However, there are some guys you can tell are walking the walk because their experiences will ring true with yours. The only way to validate posts on here is compare the advice to what you've seen, and you must have experience with multiple women over a long sample size to be able to evaluate those things with a solid bullshit detector. Otherwise, you're just taking a guys word on the internet.

[–]OilyB1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm almost reluctant to answer as a non-American. But it seems American women are the worst. I'm in Europe and European women are (in general of course) right behind the US but at a slight distance. Meaning one can absolutely find love here but we're slowly and surely getting worse.

Besides, love is not fake or not. What it is purely depends on your culture and the two people it involves. It seems like in the US the obsolescence of relationships is really high, meaning the tendency to break up at the first issue is too big. The more people have awareness, the more autonomous they are, the easier they break up and try with someone else.

The more people believe in fairy tales, the more they're willing to take a loss and persevere.

I'm under the impression that American women are masters at keeping up appearances and even believing in those appearances themselves. Until the security of living together or marriage is there. Then they relax and are totally themselves. As far as culture is concerned: European less so. Eastern European women even less. Asian, African and South American women the least.

So for you, vet, vet, and vet again.

[–]DeatCoreBoy11 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's fucked up here in Buenos Aires - Argentina. Just google it, Feminism is an imperative here and girls think almost like a guy.

[–]OilyB0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Aww, what a waste. Argentina women used to be gracious!

[–]DeatCoreBoy11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

They are incredibly pretty! But they behave awful. Hell, It feels like dating a red pilled man.

[–]pridebrah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel for you bro. I thought we had it rough up here in America, but that sounds awful -- stunning women mixed with male attitudes.

[–]RedKepler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Listen to Bill Burr.

If you went skydiving and had a 3 in 4 chance that you parachute wouldn't open you wouldn't go.

[–]Jay57731 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look up the Black Philip Show he explains it the best. Love is what women want and sex is what guys want.

[–]carb0ncl1mber1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

no just conditional

[–]DrizzlyShrimp360 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You have your own company?

[–]Crexty 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Yes

[–]DrizzlyShrimp360 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Mind me asking what service you provide or what product you sell?

[–]benmarvin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At its core, love is just a collection of chemical reactions and electrical connections happening in your brain. Take that how you will.

[–]Nergaal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Love is not fake, same as heroin addiction is not fake. Being in love with another person is similarly temporary.

[–]WithItOrOnIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First, all your answer are in the sidebar.

What kind of company are you running ?

[–]tbrmd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“Will women leave you at a drop of a dime?” If there’s someone who’s better n doing sum better

[–]SwoleyMoleyFrijoley0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Disney love is fake.

[–]DadOnDabs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, you're idea of love is fake.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Love is an emotional reaction to perceived romantic and sexual scarcity.

That doesn't mean it's fake. It's a very real product of millions of years of evolution.

But it can be misleading, and cause you to be very irrational.

And lots of pop culture conceptions about love are very wrong, deliberately so to try to convince you to be a good little beta provider cog.

[–]King-Manlet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t take everything said here as facts

[–]NeuroBoss310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Remember that time as a kid when you believed in Santa Claus?

[–]RedVelocitiy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Our fantasy of love is fake.

[–]KitMindhead-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

If your idea is to find a perfect princess you will be sadly disappointed.

If you think you can spin plates and find a quality women who will be okay for you to fuck other women while fucking her you will be sadly disappointed.

If you think you will find a quality women who will fuck you the first night from a bar or club and stay with you,you will be sadly disappointed.

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[–]DeatCoreBoy10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Agree,

You think a girl that you meet in a club and lets you fuck her the first night is not gonna be faithful? Like is she damaged or this could be somehow considered for an LTR material? I'm just curious.

[–]KitMindhead0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You think you are special? If she fucked you first night, she will fuck your friend the next night.

Club sluts are all trash we outgrow that whole scene in mid 20s.

[–]Wobblewobblegobble-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

The red pill is flawed just like any other way of seeing things. There are people that follow this sub that think every single girl is a slut that wants multiple partners. That is obviously not true you only notice the ones that do. Anyway love is something that can make you a better person even after the relationship is over. If you find the right person for you then things can be tremendously better in your life. Having multiple plates you don’t care about emotionally isn’t healthy. Regardless what anyone on here says. Keep your standards high and reasonable and try not to date the hottest girl in your area and you might find a woman worth dating.



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