So love is fake?

Chadster113 · 2019-01-21T06:15:28+00:00

Society's idea of love is fake.

Ziczor · 2019-01-21T06:21:35+00:00

At least you discover that at 20. I crashed my world views at 25. You should be grateful, cuz you're going to save lots of time.

slaterhuckle · 2019-01-21T09:08:34+00:00

I think people who take a super hardline approach to red pill think that love is an illusion and they take this approach to ultimately protect themselves. Its like a failsafe or something - don't fall in love don't get oneitis and you will always be ok. But love is real and brings great joy but also much suffering. Such is the human experience. Live in the moment and be your best self, accept that whatever you may feel as love or whatever a woman tells you doesn't matter because it can all be gone tomorrow. Also read everything in the sidebar.

Whisper · 2019-01-21T06:27:28+00:00

Is love fake?

No. But stop looking for the wrong kind.

Are my visions of finding a solid loyal, high class woman who's hot unrealistic?

Yes. You don't find quality women, you train them. Pick one that's not ruined yet.

From a lot of what I read here, it sounds like marriage or monogamy is not worth it..

Marriage is an insane risk because there's no payoff.

Monogamy isn't "worth it", because it's a concession. You EXCHANGE it for something that's "worth it".

patacsiipse · 2019-01-21T06:10:09+00:00

You should read the sidebar of this subreddit, it explains all of those questions of yours in an easily understandable manner.

Velebit · 2019-01-21T08:11:58+00:00

Read EVERYTHING on oxytocin on wikipedia.

Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits · 2019-01-21T06:34:59+00:00

OK so hypergamy is real, and all women are hypergamous; but they are hypergamous to varying extents.

Will a woman leave you if something better comes along? Not exactly. What occurs is she makes an implicit assessment of cheating/leaving's expected value. In other words, is the risk of pursuing this better option worth losing you should you refuse to take her back when she monkey-branches? So maybe she'll encounter some guy who has higher SMV than you, and maybe there is a 50% probability he'll commit to her and a 100% chance you won't take her back. She might stay with you just because the opportunity of increased partner SMV isn't worth the potential loss of that which she has.

That being said, let us say you have your best possible girl as a partner. Now a version of you comes along who is identical to you in every conceivable regard, except that he makes twice as much money. Now let's say that there is a 100% chance that he'd commit to your girl, and your girl knows this. She will monkey-branch.

Totsean · 2019-01-21T10:51:08+00:00

Start with self love and then let someone else join it but keep your frame.

TheStumblingWolf · 2019-01-21T07:55:58+00:00

Love is a function in us that makes sure we don't die out, and that our offspring receives protection. That's its function. Even if you were to find such a person there's such a thing as time. Mainstream media would have you believe finding love is the goal, but it's not. That's just the beginning. A relationship requires constant work, and everything could happen. You could get fat and lose her attraction, she could get fat and lose yours. You could both change so much that you didn't wanna be with each other any more. Shortly - Life and everything in it is an endeavor that requires constant attention.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-01-21T10:47:50+00:00

It's not that love is fake. It's just not the kind of love that the Blue Pill has us believe. That wonderful idea of 'unconditional' love. Love will not conquer all, or be forever lasting. If we don't do our shit as men, women can eventually lose attraction, and no relationship will continue to bubble without a base level of sexual attraction.

Don't do your shit as a man, and she will consider branching out. Also, don't be a weak beta provider, and think this magical disney land love will land you the women of your dreams, and she'll, without other motivation, fulfill your every desire.

Much more real human shit to it all.

menial_optimist · 2019-01-21T13:41:27+00:00

The hard truths: Attraction always matters, and love is real but always conditional. Men will always have the burden of performance. With few exceptions, you can never really let your full guard down and be completely vulnerable to a woman for very long. The only unconditional love that exists is between parents and their children.

Things can and often do change on a dime. You could have a perfect fairytale marriage for 7 years and the 8th year in things blow apart

HitMan8811 · 2019-01-21T08:42:10+00:00

The romanticized idea of love is fake.... welcome to the RP my friend, it’s a deep rabbit hole. Good luck

VisiblePlan · 2019-01-21T06:35:02+00:00

Love in romance films is fake. But I love my family. It is possible to get a familial bond with a girl. But you also have to abide by RP rules. And always be ready to walk at any moment

Blackboxbrownstrip · 2019-01-21T15:05:37+00:00

One-sided love: bad for the experiencer.

Both-sided love good. Just use trp skills and have a healthy relationship. if break up just accept, suffer then move on.

_the_golden_rule_ · 2019-01-21T15:19:49+00:00

Men think they need love when they're really seeking admiration and respect.

PolesWithGoals · 2019-01-21T08:45:18+00:00

Love in modern society is fake news. It’s not about connection it’s more about attraction these days

Kommanderdude · 2019-01-21T13:10:41+00:00

Love isn’t fake. The Hollywood Disney depiction of love is.

Always remember. A woman can never love a man the way a man wants to be loved. It’s not their fault. It’s just the way they are biologically programmed.

InformalCriticism · 2019-01-21T12:17:46+00:00

Is love fake?

You really have to define the word for your own benefit. The real problem comes when you realize that no matter what love means to you, it means something entirely different to a woman. Love for men is far more pure, whereas with women love is just the pile of emotions that are leftover after you've given her everything she wants (but not everything she has asked for -- never do this if you want an emotional connection to last).

Are my visions of finding a solid loyal, high class woman who's hot unrealistic?

Yes, sort of -- there are no unicorns; you'll always have to contend with female nature, but if you're looking for a hottie with good parents, they're out there, but you're wasting your time if you think you can be so lucky as to find one. And not just lucky, more lucky than any man in history now thanks to feminism and all the garbage they're/we're taught in public school and society.

Can someone explain Hypergamy more to me?

There are tons of ways to explain it, but if you're totally new, then maybe it would help to give you an imaginary example using your own ideals.

Let's say you get a loyal, high class woman who is hot. Well, now what? You settle into a life of monogamy, you have achieved what you wanted, but then a year rolls by. Well, thanks to how hot, loyal, and classy this chick is, it affords you access to a large social circle of other women who are hot, classy, and loyal. Well, after a year of looking at the menu and mingling with all these other women, you just start getting the feeling that you could do better, and it turns out you're just the type of guy that all these women want.

This situation is built into female nature. No woman can help but experience this type of solipsism. After re-reading that example, I can say it wasn't perfect, but it gives you a first step into the empathy you'll need in order to detect hypergamy when you see it. Women are constantly bombarded with attention and emotion that makes their hypergamy irresistible in many situations.

Female hypergamy can focus on a lot of different attributes that you may not have. Just because you're financially successful doesn't mean she's constantly looking for the next nutsack attached to a larger pile of cash -- nothing you are on your resume is ever enough to keep a woman. Hell, Johnny Depp's ex started dating a famous billionaire after she (falsely?) accused Depp of being physically abusive.

This was given to me recently as a more rounded explanation of what hypergamy is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r6kKn5_hUc&t=581s

Im fucking in shock.

I would say get used to it, but there's really no getting used to it, especially if you were "blue-pilled" hard enough. It took me around 3 years to get both hands around how unrealistic the portrayal of attraction is in society. It's one thing to read about it on a forum, and it's another thing entirely to peel back the onion of the world as you live out your life. I can only put it this way, it'll always be shocking, but you'll slowly stop being surprised.

From false rape accusations, to divorce rape, to serial cheating, to paternity fraud, to sperm jacking, to chasing sperm donors down for child support, etc.; the list goes on. It's all shocking and depraved through the eyes of someone who just wanted a simple life free of drama, simple expectations of a significant other, but through time you'll understand that it's all just various shades of female nature revealed.

Good luck to you man. Is sounds like you have a great start in life. Don't let that change, but I also hope you learn enough now when you're young to avoid the pitfalls so many have made before you.

RedSkeller · 2019-01-21T14:03:33+00:00

It benefits many organizations (governments, societies, powerful men) for there to be marriage and love. Frankly, most people are just too fucking boring and live miserable lives but everyone gets a chance to have their own 'love story' even if it's bullshit. Don't read here and think you need to stop caring for people in your life because you don't. Understand that every relationship is transnational and if you're not bringing something to the table they will leave, friends and women. And don't save hos.

CRGRO · 2019-01-21T18:05:48+00:00

Be careful reading the sub dude. Some of the things on here are dubious insofar as how can you really verify the information is coming from a credible source? It's dangerous to stumble into TRP to the extent you find "RP" strategy, theory, and methodology that's nothing but a halfassed echochamber from a poster whom wishes he could have been someone instead of himself. Be careful, lest you want to buy brand name and accidentally find out three months from now you've been buying generic. People here like to steal accomplishments from others since they're in short supply within their own life due to the difficult nature accompanied with them. Read more.

OilyB · 2019-01-21T15:24:26+00:00

I'm almost reluctant to answer as a non-American. But it seems American women are the worst. I'm in Europe and European women are (in general of course) right behind the US but at a slight distance. Meaning one can absolutely find love here but we're slowly and surely getting worse.

Besides, love is not fake or not. What it is purely depends on your culture and the two people it involves. It seems like in the US the obsolescence of relationships is really high, meaning the tendency to break up at the first issue is too big. The more people have awareness, the more autonomous they are, the easier they break up and try with someone else.

The more people believe in fairy tales, the more they're willing to take a loss and persevere.

I'm under the impression that American women are masters at keeping up appearances and even believing in those appearances themselves. Until the security of living together or marriage is there. Then they relax and are totally themselves. As far as culture is concerned: European less so. Eastern European women even less. Asian, African and South American women the least.

So for you, vet, vet, and vet again.

RedKepler · 2019-01-21T15:25:58+00:00

Listen to Bill Burr.

If you went skydiving and had a 3 in 4 chance that you parachute wouldn't open you wouldn't go.

Jay5773 · 2019-01-21T16:31:02+00:00

Look up the Black Philip Show he explains it the best. Love is what women want and sex is what guys want.

carb0ncl1mber · 2019-01-21T20:28:51+00:00

no just conditional

DrizzlyShrimp36 · 2019-01-21T14:23:43+00:00

You have your own company?

benmarvin · 2019-01-21T14:48:31+00:00

At its core, love is just a collection of chemical reactions and electrical connections happening in your brain. Take that how you will.

sleepykient · 2019-01-21T15:02:47+00:00

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsVw9ePliqm/

Nergaal · 2019-01-21T17:24:06+00:00

Love is not fake, same as heroin addiction is not fake. Being in love with another person is similarly temporary.

WithItOrOnIt · 2019-01-21T17:46:34+00:00

First, all your answer are in the sidebar.

What kind of company are you running ?

tbrmd · 2019-01-21T18:15:30+00:00

“Will women leave you at a drop of a dime?” If there’s someone who’s better n doing sum better

SwoleyMoleyFrijoley · 2019-01-21T20:08:33+00:00

Disney love is fake.

DadOnDabs · 2019-01-21T20:49:01+00:00

No, you're idea of love is fake.

Zanford · 2019-01-21T22:31:37+00:00

Love is an emotional reaction to perceived romantic and sexual scarcity.

That doesn't mean it's fake. It's a very real product of millions of years of evolution.

But it can be misleading, and cause you to be very irrational.

And lots of pop culture conceptions about love are very wrong, deliberately so to try to convince you to be a good little beta provider cog.

King-Manlet · 2019-01-21T22:59:02+00:00

Don’t take everything said here as facts

NeuroBoss31 · 2019-01-22T08:46:41+00:00

Remember that time as a kid when you believed in Santa Claus?

RedVelocitiy · 2019-01-21T13:32:54+00:00

Our fantasy of love is fake.

KitMindhead · 2019-01-21T15:13:14+00:00

If your idea is to find a perfect princess you will be sadly disappointed.

If you think you can spin plates and find a quality women who will be okay for you to fuck other women while fucking her you will be sadly disappointed.

If you think you will find a quality women who will fuck you the first night from a bar or club and stay with you,you will be sadly disappointed.

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Wobblewobblegobble · 2019-01-21T22:00:32+00:00

The red pill is flawed just like any other way of seeing things. There are people that follow this sub that think every single girl is a slut that wants multiple partners. That is obviously not true you only notice the ones that do. Anyway love is something that can make you a better person even after the relationship is over. If you find the right person for you then things can be tremendously better in your life. Having multiple plates you don’t care about emotionally isn’t healthy. Regardless what anyone on here says. Keep your standards high and reasonable and try not to date the hottest girl in your area and you might find a woman worth dating.

bigfatdubsack · 2019-01-21T09:39:00+00:00

Read the sidebar fag you’re not a business owner unless you own a license and an LLC

Title	So love is fake?
Author	Crexty
Upvotes	99
Comments	120
Date	January 21, 2019 5:35 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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