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MRP and Watching Sports

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February 4, 2018
46 upvotes

As many of us prepare to watch the Superbowl (including myself) take a moment to consider if you are one of the many men that need to cut back on their consumption of sports as entertainment.

As a general rule, men shouldn't be so wrapped up in other people's achievements. Excessive devotion to watching sports is pure beta territory. Of course I enjoy a good football game like the rest of us, but when you find yourself spending every Saturday watching college ball, Sunday watching NFL, Monday going over your fantasy football results, mid week planning your fantasy football trades, looking up stats, etc. it is way too much time wasted with no gain or self improvement.

It is hard to hear for some guys because it is so ingrained into the culture (much like excessive alcohol consumption, a topic for another time), but for real, take a step back and evaluate why you are so vested in this particular form of entertainment as if it is something more important. You wouldn't be proud to tell people you spent 20 hours each week watching Real Housewives, why is this different? You are not next in line for a head coaching position, you are not a team recruiter, you don't need to know the stats for some 19 year old kid playing college ball, none of it is important.

Are you one of the guys who talk about the games like they are on the team. Who is this "we" you refer too? Spending (wasting) hundreds of dollars on team jerseys doesn't mean you are on the team.

Imagine if you were to take half of your wasted sports viewing time and spend it towards learning a new skill, researching career opportunities, gaming your wife, or even (god forbid) PLAYING sports? Going to sporting events is a great time, lots of social interaction and fun to be had. Even following a particular team is fine, just don't be one of the hoards of men who let it dictate their life. At the superbowl party today, are you going to be the guy glued to the TV, watching every moment of every play like it is your job, or are you going to be with me and mingling, having a fun time, talking to new/interesting (especially attractive) people, and generally living an enjoyable life? And for god's sake, don't mope around like a child if your team loses.


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Title MRP and Watching Sports
Author InChargeMan
Upvotes 46
Comments 64
Date 04 February 2018 07:45 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit MarriedRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/198191
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/7v90zq/mrp_and_watching_sports/
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[–]Helrade15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think I get what you are saying. I like sports but I realize that it is escapism. Nothing wrong with that in reasonable quantities.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Everything in moderation.

[–]JudgeDoom69MRP APPROVED20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

Being obsessed with, and pissing away hours watching sports on TV and managing fantasy teams on your PC is akin to masturbating while watching porn. You are wasting your time living vicariously through the activities of others.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceMRP APPROVED14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Highly "productive" incels solve that problem by masturbating during the games.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are wasting your time living vicariously through the activities of others.

This 100%

[–]JDRoedellMRP APPROVED6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yep, never understood why some guys get so invested in something they have zero control over. Listening to people talk about what their team could or should have done is an instant attention loss for me. My college roommate used to sulk in the room for half the day if his team lost on game day. Talk about being in a bunch of other people’s frames.

Having a few drinks with some friends now and again to watch a game... that’s fine. It’s social

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly

[–]donedreadpirateMRP APPROVED0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dudes at work will be like, "my whole week depends on this game" and I think Jesus Christ your life sucks but I smile and say, "drink it away!"

[–]JDRoedellMRP APPROVED1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s the exact mentality I’ve never understood, even before I unplugged

[–]scapeity4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

While I agree with OP, I think it's important to know information to be able to blend in with the social strata you are a part of or want to be a part of.

I did not watch the game because of other commitments, but this morning I studied up a bit so I am able to at least contribute at the office and the gym because that's what's going to be talked about today.

If you say.. "I didn't have time to watch, but I caught some of the highlights online, looks like a great game"

You are a team player...

If you say "I stayed up meal prepping and reading the sidebar" you come off as standoffish. Which I guess might work some days, but weaving yourself into various social networks and advancing in them is often times just as important.

[–]The_LitzMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Funny thing is... those who actually played professionally or at a decent league level hardly watch the games or have opinions to offer to anyone who will listen.

[–]ReddJiveMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

There's nothing inherently wrong with having a passion for something. Never underestimate having passion. But there is a difference in having that passion and engaging in society's view of how men do it.

It's simple. Like all things make sure you earned it.

[–]DanceMonkeeDanceMRP APPROVED3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Passion for doing something > passion for watching other people doing something

[–]donedreadpirateMRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never understood the emotional torture manboys put themselves through for the accomplishments of other men. In the NFL? You're a man on your mission. Watching NFL? Hamster yourself all day about how it's "improving your flag football strategy" but it's really just simulated, vicarious masculinity. Get a life.

[–]gettingmymojobackMRP APPROVED7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

Everyone getting ready for Superbowl Sunday like it’s some sort of holiday and here I am wasting my time meal prepping for the week, getting my gym stuff washed and planning ahead for my next 3 months worth of workouts....

[–]cBIGONE1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As you should be. Keep it up man!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

A teaser question...why isn't that stuff already done so you're free to watch the game?

[–]Reach180MRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No shit.

Watch the game, don't watch the game. Don't use the decision you make either way to buttress your identity.

[–]gettingmymojobackMRP APPROVED-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Couldn’t care less about football so not going out of my way to rearrange my usual routine. If it was something more important to me, then time would be made for it, schedules would be adjusted etc.

Priorities. I only have so many free hours in a week and so many fucks to give. Made up sports holiday doesn’t even make the top 20 on my list.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You want a cookie?

[–]pumpedupkicks350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Had a great time watching the Super Bowl and having a few beers with my mates. Wouldn’t miss it for the world..

[–]NomadicJay18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol. It’s Super Bowl Sunday man have a beer and enjoy the game.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

As many of us prepare to watch the Superbowl (including myself)

After the season ends look into some reading comprehension exercises.

Honestly I'm expecting a good amount of backlash. Very similar to those who can't swallow the pill in regards to relationship dynamics.

[–]PBL89[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have never understood watching sports on tv. It amazes me that some guys will get so worked up that that can resort to a physical fight because of how their team does. It’s just living vicariously. But in moderation I understand it’s some guys downtime to relax I guess

Ludicrous.

[–]Reject444Grinding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't play fantasy sports anymore, but I used to. I think there are a lot of bad things about it but there is also some potential TRP value as long as you are careful and judicious in your approach.

First, the bad stuff. Some guys get WAY too wrapped up in their fantasy teams, as if they actually matter at all. If you spend more than an hour (two MAX) or so preparing for your fantasy draft, you're wasting time. Nobody who isn't already in your fantasy league wants to hear about your fantasy team, so don't talk about that shit with other people because you will bore them. And I had several friends who were so invested in their fantasy team that it affected their enjoyment of watching the actual games--as in, they would be watching their favorite team but cheer for a player on the OPPOSING team to score a touchdown because it would "help their fantasy team." That's crazy bullshit and, while I never succumbed to it and was always able to set my fantasy team lineups once and forget about it until scores came out on Tuesday, that mentality is one main reason I stopped participating in fantasy sports.

Now, the good stuff: Talking about your fantasy team/league with friends who are in the same league is a lot of fun and a good male bonding activity. I actually made some good friends after inviting acquaintances to join a fantasy league, and then we bonded over the fantasy league. You will be much better versed to make regular conversation about the ins and outs of a sport after participating in a fantasy league.

Primarily, though, I think that fantasy sports actually taught me the "abundance mentality" that is so valued in Red Pill thinking. During a fantasy draft, it's critical that you keep your options open, look for value picks, and field a complete team. Guys who get "blinders" on and go into the draft (or any given round) thinking they MUST get one particular player are setting themselves up for disappointment and a bad team. You really thought you should take another running back in this round but there's a superstar QB left that has no business still being available; you need to abandon your previous plan and scoop up the much higher value asset. Oh, that 4th-round wide receiver you had your eye on just got picked? Well, there's a better Tight End still on the board and a TON of not-much-worse WRs you can get next round, so rather than getting desperate and reaching for a WR that should go later, you make the smart pick and take the TE instead. Having that abundance mentality (there are plenty of other players that could be just as good as the one I was tempted to reach for and waste a pick on) was an invaluable skill in drafting and guys who didn't have that perspective usually found themselves at the bottom of the standings. I always did well in my leagues because I really held to this concept. I have not yet succeeded in fully translating it to apply to women, but I know that with work I can because I was able to do it in another context. Fantasy football taught me that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

Calling /u/Rian_stone to quote thotwrecker.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

Meh. Everyone kind of knows that being productive is better than not being productive.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Half-time beege is definitely called for.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Lol, I'll give you a hint: patriots win after shady call by ref and last minute bad call by opposition coach, Brady pulls a miracle out of his ass.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

not this time. His balls were fully inflated.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The steroids weren't up to snuff, and the spy cameras went out.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Go Eagles.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Agreed :)

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMRP MODERATOR2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Woo! Any time Brady loses a Super Bowl, I celebrate!

[–]RylanBlackwood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My grandad has had his sky sports banned from him by his wife since he was shouting too much. It cracks me up. So glad I never got into watching sports.

[–]RedPillPowerNine0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

At least there is a bit of masculinity provided by society for men who indulge themselves in that kind of life obsession. None awarded by you or us but the blue pill males do.

Then you get full on losers like me who at one point in their life played runescape 70 hours a week.

I can talk about magic the gathering at the same beta level as most of the men around me can talk about hockey.

I wish I was a sports guy, being able to talk about sports is a valuable skill when you are dealing with other men.

I hurts knowing how far I let myself go but I did it to myself. I like the man I am now and the man I'm becoming every day so I guess I had to be that guy to be this guy. Or that's an ego protection racket my brain is tricking me with. My brain seems to come up with all kinds of bullshit to prevent me from feeling bad.

[–]GroundbreakingDevil1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have you seen some of these sports guys you're talking about?

 

They're just a different sub-set of loser.

 

Sitting around with your buddies drinking beer, eating wings, and screaming at the TV while watching sportsball is not any better than sitting around with your buddies smoking weed, eating Cheetos, and drinking Mountain Dew while playing D&D.

They're just different paths to get the dopamine hit that comes with accomplishment, but without all the troublesome work of actually getting off your ass and doing it yourself.

 

You want to be a manly sports guy? Join an amateur league, or a dojo, or just DO something active that speaks to you. Mountain biking, trail running, racquet ball, MMA, ballet, what-the-fuck-ever; just DO something, and you'll be miles ahead of the most die hard "fan."

Start with lifting. Don't be a pussy, ask for help, earn the respect of the veterans by putting in the work. You'll make better, manlier, friends at the gym that way than you ever could watching all the games.

Self help guys say that you end up being the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with; which group would you rather be the average of?

[–]D_Hamm350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great advice. I've cut down to only the important games now. It's far too time consuming to keep up with all of it.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red-1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy

Fuck the NFL and their liberal, anti-American, Veteran hating rhetoric.

Fuck the players that kneel for our National Anthem, and the teams and sponsors that support them.

You want change or raise awareness? Go be MLK and do it the right way.

You want to support sports? Fine. Go coach kids ball.

Fuck the superbowl.

[–]mattizie8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

And most importantly: fuck the use of taxpayer money to fund the whole shit show.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy

Have you gone full retard?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Truth time. Back in the day I was a big fan of the Cowboys. Season tickets, went to the playoff games, and Super Bowls too.

Then one day I said, this is a bottomless pit of money and time, only to make other people rich. I quit. Full stop.

Seldom watch any football anymore.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I can’t disagree with it being a money pit. Football to me is a chance for one day a week to be with the guys and being able to bring the kids.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I over did it. Not same.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nope. Fuck the NFL and everything it represents.

It is nothing more than a system of control, an outlet for beta losers to live through the accomplishments of others. While they sit in the "man caves" drink beer, eat pizza and play fantasy football like kids play video games.

The hidden political messages, the constant brainwashing it pushes down to people via its advertisements, messaging and branding.

It is not a sport anymore. It is a diversion mechanism to train the masses and keep them distracted and divided.

If you like the NFL, that is perfectly fine. You do you, and I will do me.

There is no NFL in our home.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah cool, I guess. There are only so many things american. Same stance I took with the children and electronics. I can respect that. I will not however respect "The Wiggles" even though I love the turkey in the straw skit.

[–]Rian_StoneHard Core Navy Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I dunno man. Watched a video today of a guy in Philly eating horse shit off the street because of the superbowl victory

Thats fucked up.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

meds ?

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Football.....

[–]littleblacktruck2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Coaching kids and teaching them to reap the rewards of hard work is one of the most rewarding things I've ever done.

[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

motherfucker- ripped the words right off my vocal chords

[–]Ninpo_Neo65-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll second that! I haven't watched these shit-bags since Marshawn Lynch parked his ass on a cooler in the preseason. FUCK THE NFL!!

[–]thewholefnshow5470 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

You makes some good points, but some are equating all watching sports with loser behavior. Whereas I feel following sports is a male communal experience, and provides a good opportunity to have a Male Space. For as much as ESPN tries to force female commentators, reporters and anchors down our throats, women will never follow sports to the degree that men do. This makes it a common ground between men who otherwise don't know each other. It is also an easy way to hone your trash talking skills. For instance, next Saturday, UFC 221, I am having about 4 or 5 guys over to watch some MMA. There's going to be gambling, beer, blood, red meat and a fuck-load of testosterone fueled shit talking. My wife will come down and say hello to my friends, then will leave us to our bloodsports. I don't think my wife resents this at all. She just views it as her man doing man stuff.

However, I do not obsess about sports or let them interfere with my life, and here are some sports rules that I follow to help prevent that:

1) Fantasy Sports are for losers. My favorite thing to do is to intently listen to a guy tell me about his fantasy football team then when he is finished, lay into him for being such a retarded waste of skin. If you played fantasy this year...just stop it. Seriously, you have better stuff you could be spending your energy on. Plus making fun of people who play fantasy football is much more fun that actually playing fantasy football.

2) Sports work around my schedule, not the other way around. We all have DVR's now. Your team has the noon game? Record that shit and watch it later. In fact, you will see that a football game last only about 90 minutes once you edit out all of the commercials and stoppages. There, I just saved you an hour and a half.

3) Sports viewing is a leisure activity and is only performed once all other vital activities are done. This is the reason why you look like a loser for watching too much sports. Seriously, get your shit done first. Never spend your entire Sunday parked in front of a TV.

4) If your team loses the big game, you have 45 minutes or less to mourn that loss. Slam your fist, break something, cuss out your friend, curse the football gods...but only for 45 minutes. Then you forget about it. The next morning you should be over it and be able to rationally discuss that loss no matter how devastating it was.

5) If your team wins a championship, you have one full year of relentless gloating to all of your friends and family. Seriously, go nuts!

6) The only sport you should see in person is baseball, and maybe college basketball. I would like to go to an NFL game in person, but 300 bucks a ticket seems a little rapey. Minimize your monetary investment in sports. Get a T-shirt or a baseball cap, not a 175 dollar jersey.

[–]Reach180MRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

How does gambling on MMA differ from fantasy football?

[–]GroundbreakingDevil1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Betting on other people actually fighting is manlier that betting on teams of people proxy-fighting, apparently.

 

Just a different flavor of the same bullshit. D&D for guys who don't want to be labeled nerds.

[–]thewholefnshow547-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

You seriously have to ask this? It takes about 8 seconds to say, "10 bucks says this guys gonna win" "All right, yer on, 10 bucks." Its called action, and it just fuels the shit talking and gloating.

One is a season long time investment, the other all happens in one night, and doesn't even impede the process of the PPV. Don't get me started on Fantasy Football unless you are looking for a sizable rant. Even the name sounds gay as hell. Fantasy. What self respecting man would play Fantasy Football?

[–]Reach180MRP APPROVED2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Guys who aren't like me are losers"

[–]bookloverphile-4 points-3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Gaming your wife????

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol, the whole post and that's where you found your issue?

[–]bookloverphile0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh sorry, i thought i was reading this article in another sub. I think i thought i was reading this in r/personalFinance lol. Thats why i was like “what???” But anyways. Thanks for being alpha OP!

[–]Chinchilla_the_HunMarried0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some women warm up like a microwave, others like an oven. Don't judge OP's wife for being two sticks and some kindling.

[–]NomadicJay-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love you.

[–]InChargeManMRP APPROVED[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks Mom!



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