How do you explain an interabled relationship? Makes no sense

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March 10, 2019

I’ve been redpilled for the last 5 years. I recently came across a YouTube channel “Squirmy and grubs” which features a disabled guy called Shane and his normal girlfriend Hannah. They have started vlogging their life together as a couple.

Now this guy is helpless in just about every sense. He has severe muscular atrophy and needs her to do everything. From bathing, to wiping his ass and feeding him. He has a great sense of humour though.

She is is a HB7 at least. Undoubtedly with many many options if she had the inclination. It’s actually baffling to witness her laughing and loving on him as though he’s a Chad. This relationship does not makes sense through a redpill lense. They even talk about having children, knowing full well, the kids will likely inherit these bad genetics.

There is also no indication that he is filthy rich. He appears to be upper middle class at best. Why is this girl in her prime spending it as a carer? I don’t have an explanation outside of “Unicorns do exist”

Here’s a link to their channel

Here's one more link to something interesting, "Devotees" - Credit to I'm_Hitler for finding the correct term.

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Title How do you explain an interabled relationship? Makes no sense
Author Oblivionking1
Upvotes 86
Comments 107
Date 10 March 2019 11:22 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]1900_year_old_vampire136 points137 points  (10 children) | Copy

some kind of intense multifaceted fetish is honestly my only guess. or, its literally just all fake and a mutual youtube cash grab

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy

She probably has some sort of "Munchausen's by proxy" thing going on. Who knows? No matter what it is, it is always someone's fetish.

Also, over populations there are always going to be exceptions. For example, nobody would argue that men are, generally, taller than women, but that does not mean that there are not some women who are taller than some men. Think WNBA chicks. But just like it's very uncommon for a girl to be 6'8", it's also uncommon for them to get wet in the panties for gorked guys.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love your contributions to the site!!

Yes you could very well be right. It’s a very interesting and fascinating case and maybe in time will make more sense.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy

Isn’t it just baffling? It’s the most convincing evidence for unicorns I’ve seen. If it is indeed a fetish, I’ve never heard of it.

[–]Nergaal63 points64 points  (4 children) | Copy

Nah. There was a morbidly obese youtuber who got a gastric bypass and the moment he stopped looking 100% gross and was like 99% gross she dumped him. It's a twisted Cleopatra complex, where the woman has a need to have an individual completely dependent to her to have any meaningful impression of self.

[–]MisterMarbles198815 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

where the woman has a need to have an individual completely dependent to her to have any meaningful impression of self.

I was thinking some kind of co-dependent relationship as well. She loves how needed he makes her feel. Without a fucked up person to take care of, she has to live with herself and all of her (perceived or real) flaws.

[–]hmsthinkingmeat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you ever watch "my 600lb life" you'll see it in reverse - the dude will be what they call a "feeder" who needs his other half to be totally 100% dependent on him, to cover his deep and intense lack of self esteem or sense of self value.

The minute the woman loses weight and he thinks she might find someone better, the relationship collapses.

Really it's a form of co-dependent abuse.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Nah. There was a morbidly obese youtuber who got a gastric bypass and the moment he stopped looking 100% gross and was like 99% gross she dumped him. It's a twisted Cleopatra complex, where the woman has a need to have an individual completely dependent to her to have any meaningful impression of self.


[–]Nergaal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]icecruzader9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT as a given, there is a role for nurture in this. The amount of OK Ness she has for disability is superceding her most base biological need for 'security'. She basically has a baby already, she gets to have a man helpless towards her and he must have some game. The social benefits of being a Saint are similar to not trying to seem like a slut turned up to 11. Really though, there are so many people Im not surprised by shit like this at all. Someone's cut a chicks legs and keep her fed via IV too, but we don't talk about why She is with him either.

[–]Nib-q1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s for attention. Probably has @gaylubeoil on the side.

[–]throwitdownman33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

She has an dominant personality. She wants to be in charge, and practically wants a ‘bitch’ to play around with. Think ‘dom’ in BDSM. I’ve seen many girls, and she also looks insecure - she looks like she’s walking on eggshells. I would not be surprised if she was alpha widowed.

Now, why him? He provides things many men don’t. He seems like a nice guy, someone she can walk over. Also, he’s completely reliant on her - zero chance she gets her heart broken. Disability checks are also good. And finally, and most importantly, it gives her validation. She has the whole internet singer her praises.

At this point with 200k subscribers, she’s made it her ‘job’ while also fetching validation. All this ‘benefit’ (ownership of person, ownership of channel, ownership of his money streams, endless validation, role model status) in exchange for not riding the CC.

Edit: just saw her Instagram. Vacations, collaborations with celebrities, an IG girl’s dream. She’s not in it for love, she’s in it for the benefits. He’s just a means to an end.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow, just went on their Instagram too. It’s almost surreal to see. Like a bizarro world or something. You could be right about all your points. Totally plausible.

[–]failingtheturingtest46 points47 points  (3 children) | Copy

Men love women.

Women love children.

Children love dogs.

This sheila has found a man that she can take care of like a child. Everyone treats her like she's a Saint, she gets to publicly be Mother Teresa and privately be... Well, Mother Teresa.

Some sheilas will get their attention from flirting with guys at the bar, some from posting pictures on instagram, some from cutting their hair to look like Lloyd from dumb and dumber and sticking it to the patriarchy! Either way, it's all for that sweet, sweet feel-good sensation of "doing something".

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes maybe he’s tapped into her nurture side enough to sustain a relationship. Insane.

[–]CheesyStravinsky3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine if we could all be that lucky, huh?

[–]failingtheturingtest4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just remember. She can love you like a child, or want you to fuck her like a man. Not both.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner59 points60 points  (8 children) | Copy

He's got positivity and game that red pillers will never have. Plus disability checks pay more than whatever useless degree she's got. So it's a win win.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy

I believe he does have a positivity and game that most will never have. Is that the key here? She could easily do so much better and have someone wealthier too.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

That is the fucking key. It's right there in front of you. Anyone who can't see that is a total fucking dipshit.

[–]Auphor_Phaksache17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

Most people on TRP dont have a perspective of positivity but think they do based on the same source as their idea of love.

[–]FiveStarTendieDinner-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

And their ideas are invalid and not based in reality like they claim they are. So fuck them and their ideals.

[–]Auphor_Phaksache0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thats not necessarily true either. There is a large amount of useful information here.

[–]Emerald__Faith0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let's be honest bro shes a Hb 3 at best and hes got disability checks

Provider hypergamy in play, simple.

[–]ModTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What is a "red pillers?" They hold the roop up?

[–]PimPedOutGeeese52 points53 points  (7 children) | Copy

My best guess? He's a Youtuber. She's riding the coattails of him being a YouTuber.

Being a YouTuber gives her social status... And then there's whatever little, or not so little, money that is made from the channel.

I still don't have any doubt that she seeks Chad at midnight.

Or shit we don't know what happens behind closed doors. He could be telling her go be a fucking whore.

TLDR: Who cares? Do you. RP theory is pretty sound.

[–]StopGaming123436 points37 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is their channel, they started together with 0 subs. It's not like he was famous before.

Life isn't black and white. Who knows what reasons she has. There will always be outliers.

I would only be concerned if this couple was the norm.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh no kidding. I wasn’t aware they started with no subs. A fascinating case to be sure.

[–]superbad4life0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

But then they now have over 230k subs? like wth

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol 230k curious people.

[–]tchower4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She could be riding Chad at midnight next door for all we know. Lol

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

You could be right about her seeking chad elsewhere. Would explain a lot. Just looking at the pieces as they are doesn’t add up.

[–]cuntbuster10170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He started off with a book and being on TV. He was already known before she dated him and stated the YouTube channel

[–]Simpman47 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Max 7/10 not min haha

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Lol right on 7 !!

[–]JacobM00re2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My 5 is your 7, bro.

[–]Mescalean0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Eh personally id say 6-6.5

[–]Hsnbrg5015 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

She probably loves him from a maternal point of view and likely seeks out someone who is capable of placating her sexual desires on the side.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yep, I can totally see that. They honestly don’t strike me as that kind of couple though. I mean, who would look after him if she’s out banging some other guy lol

[–]Hsnbrg5012 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fair enough. I'm mostly speculating. He does have game and a good sense of humor about his situation. Quite an enjoyable presence.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Me too man, I got no clue. I really hope things workout good with them. It’s refreshing.

[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

There will always be outliers. Not all people can be reduced to a simple linear model.

[–]HumbleTrees3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the best answer here. There will always be deviations from the norm; the far ends of the bell curve, so to speak. The existence of abnormalities doesn't disprove a theory, if ,as is the case, the majority conforms to the theory.

[–]BobZhe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But i thought repill/mgtow teaches AWALT

[–]Cazken3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I dunno but I’m happy for them. They both seem in love and her body language and everything from the videos tells me that it’s not just a show. Good for them.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the thing. Her body language across these videos seems genuine. Even when she’s annoyed or in a bad mood. The loves still there. I want to believe!!

[–]RedLegendx11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

$$$ and the attention she gets by being in his videos.

[–]Chad17387 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly this. Just look at how OP is having a conversation (attention) about this chick who does nothing but is some youtubers gf

[–]BookyMcBooks3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I mean... she could easily have some Chad boyfriend on the side...

It's entirely possible.

[–]ImmortalAl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]boom_bostic2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Mind blowing stuff here. There must be more back story here that we’re all missing.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao that’s what I thought!!

[–]redpill-student2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I knew a guy that was mentally handicapped that could slay some pussy. Never anything above a 4 really but the fact that he was scoring was still wild to me.

Now I’ve been friends with this guy for quite a few years now. While I never specifically knew what he had, we’ve talked together about his mental disability and how it affects him and things like that.

I’ll tell you one thing that his mental impairment did not mess with. His balls. Dude was on the prowl constantly since middle school. People gassed him up so much and his confidence shot up so much that he would ask out one of the hottest girls in our grade a couple times a month. She never said yes but he didn’t give a flying fuck. Dude had balls of steel. Fast forward a couple years out of middle school and this guy picks up Tinder and he’s swiping on everything to get his dick wet.

Before I know it, I’m starting to hear from him about his successes and he starts showing me “proof.” Dude was laying pipe even though his IQ couldn’t have been above 65.

[–]TopOccasion292 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My flatmate at college is like that too. He's absolutely disgusting, can't look after himself. He's a pathetic manchild but still scores cheerleaders, aspiring models etc. His parents aren't wealthy per se. He doesn't have a job and these hb's buy gifts for him and he fucks them silly. BUT he despite being a nice guy he does have a very dominant personality so i guess that's what helps him.

[–]hazaraMoghul2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This men is limited from every aspect. This girl has a fetish to have a human pet. Do whatever she pleases to him.

[–]Vikingcel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's getting good dick on the side

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why would you think this guy wasn’t beta bux? Just cause a woman is there doesn’t make him alpha.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn’t strike me as a good beta bux. I mean she’s practically working for whatever she gets. Much easier finding some normal wealthy beta who doesn’t require 24/7 care.

[–]thewobblywelder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same reason some men stay with disabled women. Maybe he didn’t start out that way, same as a woman getting cancer at 25 and men sticking with them til the bitter end. Women are a major pain in the ass. But every once in awhile one will shine through. She might just be willing to give this guy the best life he’ll live until he dies. Then she’ll most likely move on to some guy(s) she’s had strung along for years. Maybe there’s gain in it financially somewhere for her. Maybe she has a warped motherly instinct that’s controlling her emotional responses right now. Maybe she was beaten and raped as a child and decided this guy wasn’t capable of that so why not? Most likely has plenty of Chads taking care of her other needs.

It’s really hard to say. And frankly, really not my concern. All I know is being disabled like that, I’d let a 7 take care of me whether I was banging her or not. Better than a slobbering old roundy eh?

[–]RPDream4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Attention!! Most women are attention whores, and this channel gives her lots of attention!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because there is a difference, for both men and women, for short- term sexual strategy and long-term sexual strategy, and you're forgetting how much women love to view themselves as eager servants to men, and how much they hate being viewed as selfish or non-family oriented by society.

[–]Im_Hitler1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is bizzare because i was literally searching 'devotee' because of this very situation.

These guys popped up on a youtube channel called special books by special kids where a guy named chris interviews disabled people (mainly kids) to spread a message of acceptance. Its truly amazing channel and worth watching to put things in perspective.

Anyway this couple have popped up as well as another returning guest at one point with his new girlfriend who contacted him via message after seeing him on the channel. It fascinated me and i was sure there had to be a fetish behind it.

As I said I was literally just searching devotee on reddit as i discovered the term earlier today. I thought i was reading my search results still until I realized i was on my own feed so this is such a crazy coincidence.

Anyway - my answer is fetish. In these cases where there is a committed relationship it must be a sexual attraction to the disabled because i see no other reason for these women to reach out via DM to meet these guys which is what happened in OPs example and the other I gave above.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Oh shit!!!!

It's a real thing! It has a name!

Everyone should lookup the word "Devotee" as Hitler has pointed out. It's actually the most detailed and convincing explanation yet!!! Your points are spot on!! She likely reached out over DM's out of her fetish attraction. I wonder how on earth such a fetish develops.

[–]elektrik231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She did indeed reach out via DM. I saw one of their videos where they explain how they met. Lady saw one of his videos on youtube and conctacted him. Crazy!

[–]Im_Hitler0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. I know my above post wasnt well articulated as im on mobile but on the Special Books by Special Kids channel there is another guy on there with his new gf who contacted him from New Zealand (guy is in the US) after his first interview. The guy in that example is also severely disabled and has a trach and cannot communicate well.

Just as a disclaimer i have 0 hate towards theae guy's and good for them for seizing their opportunity. I sure as hell would too. Im just pointing out what ive found.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes! I'm starting to understand how this can work.

Of course, we wish all of them well!

[–]double_red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The chick is virtual-signaling for sure. If she really wanted to raise awareness for the disabled, I'm pretty sure there're plenty of other ways to do that instead of showing herself and her relationship with a disabled person in the videos. It's like showing your amputated dog and how good care you take of it.

[–]JorgitoEstrella1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He looks like woody from toy story.

[–]2alpha-zach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just because men are happiest only having the frame, doesn’t mean they always have it. They get duped into believing blue pill lies and think they are happy.

Think of this woman as the female version of a blue pill man. She might think she’s happy, but it’s just a delusion. Ego investments and how she was raised, likely have a lot to do with it.

[–]coolredpill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

either shes a unicorn, or has an insane fetish, or shes using a disabled person for profit

we'll never know

[–]Thotasaurus_Rex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think she actually does love him. I believe she enjoys the life style, for the same reason women become nurses. I have heard of women needing to "look after" people to feel fulfilled. She has taken it to an extreme level which is almost like a fetish for her.

That being said I wouldn't blink if it came out that she is seeing multiple guys on the side.

[–]acrookedtree1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m sorry but I binge-watched a bunch of episodes & im not buying it. Their exchanges lack any kind of REAL honesty & love. They just don’t act like any kind of couple. I’m also ULTRA suspicious of the whole Spinal drug they’re plugging constantly. I feel like they’re a plant.

[–]huey7641 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Maybe 00.01% of women aren’t LT

[–]speed3_freak3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly this. People are going to people and because of all the variables that come with individual behaviors in each person then you will most likely end up with a normal distribution. This chick is an extreme outlier. The reason you teach AWALT is because the chance of you meeting and attracting that .01% is highly unlikely. AWALT because you're dealing with the 99.99% 99.99% of the time. Guy won the lotto; that doesn't mean you need to start buying lotto tickets to plan for retirement.

[–]boom_bostic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Probably lower than that....but I think that’s the lesson here.

[–]redaftrp0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I’m curious why you are using “ inter-abled” as a descriptor for their relationship. If you are going to subscribe to feminist ideologies you should’ve also labeled them as inter-gender as well... stop buying into the pc-culture bullshit.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I’m not buying into anything. Who says it’s exclusive feminist speak? The title is keeping a level of respect for these people, that’s it.

[–]redaftrp0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do you think that a disabled person wants to be treated differently just because of a disability? If not why label them as such. How retarded would it be if I introduced my gay friend be saying: “this is my friend Brian, he’s gay”....

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a sexual strategy reddit. I’m here to analyse the couple from an academic standpoint. Of course I’m going to mention one is disabled, that’s part of the exercise.

[–]Pletskop0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The exception proves the rule.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Life isn't black and white, and red pill can't explain every single man and woman on earth.

To me, Rollo Tomassi was observing the common patterns he saw from people he witnessed, and the majority of men's posts on internet forums. The findings on red-pill are coherent with a 'majority case'. Of course there is no way to adequately predict 110% of the world's population.

In terms of choosing a successful sexual strategy though, are you going to base it on the vast majority, or small minorities.

I mean, if you want to go get in a wheelchair and wait for a cute carer, by all means it works for some. Me, I'm happy going to gym and living by Red Pill principles. I think that will create more plates.

[–]i_love_chicks1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

what a sick twisted bitch. she’s stringing this poor dude along.

[–]menial_optimist0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Best case: He has psychologically conquered his own disabilities and has achieved as many redpill aspects as he can. That coupled with the right woman, he has gamed her. No woman just agrees to wipe a grown mans ass for nothing.

Worst case: All fake.

Another example is a 2.5ft tall dude named Sean Stephenson, he is an example of someone who has conquered himself and thus is able to achieve a higher mindset and not give a fuck. He has a 7/10 wife as well.

Your post seems to be one of jealousy imo. You're like "Why can this cripple get girls but I can't when I've been redpilled for 5 years?". Granted I do not know you and you could be slaying 9's every day, but if you've been redpilled for 5 years truly I feel like you'd already know the answer to this question and would have never had to ask it or care in any case.

[–]bestCallEver3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sean Stephenson is the fucking man. I can't ever watch one of his videos without feeling better about life after.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Of course I’m jelly of this guy, it’s quite the feat where I’m standing. I still hope it works out for them though, it’s a great case study lol

[–]throwitpplaway0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Shocking the TRP muscles.

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha shocked the shit outta mine

[–]UrIRLFriendLowkey-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

ThAt Is FaKe AnD StAgEd AnD ShE StIlL LoOkInG FoR A ChAd JuSt NoT FoUnD OnE YeT! AWALT DuMmY Go ReAd ThE SiDeBaR /s

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha I suppose it could be fake and staged. Pretty elaborate and exhausting though I reckon.

[–]Cametotherightplace-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

HB7? That's a 4 or 5

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Get outta here. She is above average for sure. Her body and face are above average.

[–]Cametotherightplace1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looks like a 5 to me. Maybe I under value

[–]TopOccasion29-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd give her a 5 or 6 OP.

[–]HurricaneHugues-5 points-4 points  (8 children) | Copy

What will you gain from figuring it out?

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

Potentially new knowledge that can be learned. Let’s say that this proves positivity game trumps all for example, being normal and applying it would be incredibly effective.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

withing all populations and data there are outliers,

this is an extreme case, and in my opinion it is just noise, there is nothing meaningful to deduct from this.

They may be happy together, it may just be a very unique case. they do exist. they are the exception and not the norm. any meaning you take from here will not be applicable to a healthy able bodied persons life.

Heart warming and nice. I hope she does plenty of lap dances for my boi squirmy or grub, which ever he is!

[–]imtheoneimmortal1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I’m the exception, I have disability and why not to gain and learn something from this?

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Good on you man! Whatever positive take aways you can get, have at em!

[–]imtheoneimmortal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

For what I learned, having humour is a good start

I’m lifting and having good diet (healthy) and seem working

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The beauty of this world is that these people are contactable, there is a chance if you reach out to that dude on his channel you may be able probe his mind and learn about his life/circumstances and benefit directly from his awesomeness.

Best of luck to you dude!

[–]HurricaneHugues4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You should send your resume to my team of Bulgarian researchers

[–]Oblivionking1[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If the price is right!!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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