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How rare is alpha behaviour these days?

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April 12, 2019
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I started spinning an older plate and was extremely surprised by her seeming lack of experience to draw from alpha behaviour. From information she volunteered, it seems like her dating history is mostly highly beta behaviour which she promptly bent to her frame and lost all attraction for.
It is as if my stoicism and frame is alien to her, which i find really hard to believe.

She is well educated and has a great career, has dated guys with great jobs, had richer guys buy her shit before, yet here i am just operating in my frame without much of any of those things.

What blows my mind: there are many guys out there who are great on paper. Fantastic respectable jobs, highly educated, cultured and maybe even good looking. Women in their circles date them. But having no frame, being an emotional man and supplicating to a woman can negate every single thing on that list in terms of attraction.


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Title How rare is alpha behaviour these days?
Author Just1515
Upvotes 147
Comments 89
Date 12 April 2019 10:24 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/225125
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/bcbxfg/how_rare_is_alpha_behaviour_these_days/
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[–]Startlivingfornow134 points135 points  (37 children) | Copy

News flash: we live in a betafied society, where many men aren’t even getting laid and many of the ones that are are functioning in scarcity

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (28 children) | Copy

I work with a few men who are alpha and several men who are beta. i've also noticed that a large amount of women at my workplace are alpha. and they go for the beta guys. I sense that they respect the alphas but are standoffish, and they initiate contact with the betas instead (Bringing them cookies or swinging by their cubicles to say hi or just striking up flirty conversations with them). i'm interested in other people's take on what is happening here, because it seems like men have been beta-fied but the women in many cases have become very alpha.

I am new and I observe a lot at this workplace, just watching from under the radar right now. but I noticed that men who show up to meetings or walk into rooms and exhibit alpha behavior, those men are not as readily accepted as the betas. I wouldn't consider their behavior toxic in anyway, but these alpha guys exhibit a tone and a confidence it is definitely strong and it is not readily received.

having said all of this, One thing that is peculiar is that I would say the most popular and influential person in the company is a mid-level manager who is the most Alpha of every guy in the company. but other alphas don't carry the same clout that he does; maybe the women are only open to accepting one alpha?

by the way I work at a bank. there is a larger female staff base if that matters.

[–]omega_dawg9382 points83 points  (17 children) | Copy

those women aren't "alpha." alpha women are ultra feminine, extremely nurturing, very supportive and unselfish.

acting bitchy and like men is masculine.

if there is little to no masculine presence around, women will take on masculine traits/behavior.

e.g., black women are stereotyped as very masculine... and some are. ime, 95% of those women never had a positive male influence in their lives... and took on masculine traits bc no men were present or the men were feminine.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

very interesting

[–]ChadTheWaiter10013 points14 points  (12 children) | Copy

This is very true. I just get such a warm feeling when I read that “alpha women are ultra feminine, extremely nurturing, very supportive and unselfish.” That’s so nice.

[–]omega_dawg9345 points46 points  (10 children) | Copy

some people think female "alpha" behavior is women that act like (but don't look like) alpha males. the image is she's in a pants suit, with a briefcase, super assertive... handling her business as she moves up the corporate ladder.

and career girls typically think men are attracted to that "about my business, bossy" type... i.e., copying men.

they couldn't be more wrong. see that sexy girl in the sundress with her hair down, SMILING and embracing her femininity... soft, warm, loving and welcoming? that's the alpha female. her feminine behavior and demeanor will pull you in like a magnet.

meanwhile the "alpha" female thinks her job title, $$$, and wall full of diplomas will pull you in. they're lost and probably lonely... with a closet full of dildos and vibes.

[–]golgynat0r6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

this

[–]ChadTheWaiter1003 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

EXACTLY. Sad but true. It really is disgusting this day and age to see so many women working in men’s positions.

For example my boss. Is a woman. In a mans field of work. And under her 300 lbs of excess fat you can tell that she could have been a good woman. Her husband is a fucking senior engineer at nasa. So she really has no reason to do what she’s doing aside from “pride” or some gay shit like that.

[–]omega_dawg932 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

idk what you mean by "men's positions."

I'm talking about behavior... and women imitating men and thinking it's alpha and attracts men.

that's like saying... men should act more like women and women will find them more attractive.

women SAY they want men like that but are soon disgusted by their soft behavior... lack of a spine.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

By men’s position I mean- a woman as a construction manager (as an example.)

I understand exactly what you mean.

Exactly. I know bro you’re preaching to the choir.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

By men’s position I mean- a woman as a construction manager (as an example.)

So women shouldn't understand the principles of engineering?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Round 1: Ding!

[–]ChadTheWaiter100-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

A woman should bear children. Raise those kids, take care of house and fucking cook.

[–]CassWCD0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

and cats

[–]kylerosa212 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve heard the argument that alpha women don’t exist.

[–]NYKnickerbocker20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I love AMS but I think he has this flipped. Semantics I guess...

[–]SnivelingCoward9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

Girls are very good at sniffing out "fake alphas"... in their eyes they may be worst than betas. Its just a theory of mine. Maybe they are intimidated by the alpha males? Hence why they easily approach the betas.

[–]mickymark17 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Alpha is actually more friendly than many people believe.

[–]SnivelingCoward1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree, but not sure why youre telling me. The #1 litmus test to me in spotting a fake alpha is when theyre not friendly to everyone: gossiping, pegging people down, etc.

[–]SeamusAwl1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or they could actually be tired of the competition for the alpha (or only roping in the fuckboys) that they are willing to sample a beta to see if he is an “alpha in the rough”.

[–]SnivelingCoward1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They will fight and compete for the alpha, period. But if he rejects them, actively or passively by not making a move (aka autorejection), they will just get some beta orbiters.

As far as the second part goes, idk. You know an alpha when you see one, girls know this. I have heard girls personally talk about this: they dont say it in these words, but they refer to them as what i would describe as "higher betas"... just in different terms. They know hes not the real deal and theyre very aware of this.

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No they're not thinking of "fake alphas" or anything conscious like this.

It's more like they're unaware of this completely. They just know that the behaviors they see in alpha, remind them of the alphas that dumped them before. They may be hoping to find someone who can become alphaish but is a nice person.

Additionally, some alphas are too alpha-showcasing. If they get the hint that you are there to pump-and-dump because you're so damn alpha, well then they know they don't want to be a "plate". Women still want kids and commitment, they just want it with an attractive beast who has alpha qualities and beta provider qualities.

Finally, some of them are confused about what they want, between what their mom and society tells them, and what they tell themselves and feel about the man.

Remember that woman's goal is opposite of men's (or at least they think it is).... They don't care as much about sex, they care about being provided, security, being served, and great genes that commit to them in marriage. While men care more about sex and just want emotional stability.

[–]Startlivingfornow3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re observing sexual strategy in the work place, which is like observing fishing in a soccer stadium.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Many men who are extremely competent at their job, especially in senior positions, will be very confident and dominant at work and will be an alpha, but only in a work context. But if you take many of these men out of the situation where they they gain their 'contextual alphaness', such as dating someone not in their industry, they will be as beta as anyone.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

sounds like a ripe environment for false rape and sexual harassment accusations

[–]mickymark10 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

We’re TURNING INTO JAPAN!

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women. No fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it's dark. Everyone around me is a total stranger. Everyone avoids me like a cyclone ranger.

[–]mnsmon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn, that was very pleasant to read.

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sooo essscciiiittttingggg!!!!

[–]cagedLion880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think I'm turning Japanese, turning Japanese, I really think so

[–]BusterVadge64 points65 points  (6 children) | Copy

You're getting her side of the story. Many women will put up a facade of who they want you to see rather than who she really is. Pay attention to her actions, not her words.

[–]Warren_Bateman23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

This.

Also it’s a kind of a shit test on her part to the tune of “omg, look at me. No guys I’ve been with have been good enough... will you be?”

[–]lapeparoja4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP's naivete can indicate she is continuing the trend of dating betas.

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

This... you are so gullible dude... most women at some point in their lives have experienced my species... and loved getting railed and know full well that what they preach is completely contradictory to how they love being drilled...

But they can't even let a whiff of you thinking they rode the carousel,

This is essentially the female evolutionary behaviour, secure the seed of a high value alpha to produce healthy babies... and secure a gullible beta to take care of her.

[–]Just1515[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Gullible? You mis interpret the post. She has not explicitly and overtly told me anything. I have just gathered it from general pieces she has shared about either dating history or her reactions to things.

I would be very surprised if a woman did not ride the CC in youth, but make no mistakes its not like red pill behaviour is common place. The situational alpha is a thing.

If you are worth shit you can tell the signs indirectly without them saying a thing. If not you got work to do. It is largely betas who miss these indirect signs.

Easy one? Scraping her teeth on your cock when she blows you.

In terms of reactions to things? There is a certain behaviour women have in reaction to behaviour from an(AF) that clearly contrasts here expectations. When they are clearly used to dealing with beta supplicating men, learning to spot that may be a key part of your own red pilling.

One example? I had a plate a while ago tell me(many months after the event) she was completely shocked when i told her to buy me a drink if she wants me to chill with her. Clearly even in her post wall years that was alien behaviour to her

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some women are shielded, it's hard to find them and they may have had a series of beta (perhaps rich) boyfriends. But also a lot of them lie and have lived "the life" (carousel) and are just kinda pretending they're "no longer into that..." They feel guilt about a lot of that stuff too and they may avoid it at times because they've been dumped so many times.

They'll even play games with you that are designed to frustrate you. You can find ways to explain it by thinking through that they are doing it unconsciously, but the logic doesn't pass muster: they are doing these things knowing full well what's happening. There's no way they don't. They're very perceptive. But not just perceptive, but very aware of how THEY look to others, they care for their image like as if it is a crystal on a pillar ready to tip over any second.

Watch a woman work a party for once, if you're not someone who is naturally very social, you will notice certain things that you'd think the woman is like a professional lobbyist or event organizer or something. I think they get a sense that you're into them, and if you exhibit some alpha behavior, they are doing things to test your honesty and measuring you up against other men, all sorts of stuff, that a male-to-male friend relationship would never entail.

If a woman is being your actual good friend and actually opening herself up to you, complaining about stuff to you, and you're not officially dating or having sex; you've been friendzoned. Hell, I've seen people BE the boyfriend and get zero sex -- you can't make that up. Some of them go out to the bar and collect some alpha dick. Some of them actually... actually... travel somewhere and get dick there and come back to netflix never to see them again. Some of them have "sworn off men" after being dumped many times. Some of them are "taking a break" because of the disappointment and emotional nightmare of getting dumped and rejected.

The good ones? The alpha females, the really honorable ones? Likely already married with kids.

[–]PIGamer860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Replace “see” with “be” and “she” with “you.” Despite meaning something completely different, it’s still 100% true.

Women don’t know who they are or what they want, at the very least they refuse to come to terms with it.

[–]KillaJewels13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

Very true. The things that sound good on paper (good job, makes good money, cultured, educated, good-looking) help on the social conditioning side but not the archaic "lizard brain" side. It helps getting your foot in the door, but if you act like a chode, you'll see your way out pretty quick.

We all grow up thinking the quintessential Chad is the one with the above listed qualities. When in fact, it's confidence and ability to maintain a steady hand even in high pressure situations that stokes attraction.

That said, girls are used to chodes in the same way guys are used to bitches. A lot of guys out there are used to bitches BECAUSE they are being chodes. Girls won't react well to the chode because she doesn't respect him.

[–]DumbledoresFerrari3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Good looks are the main thing that matters on the lizard brain side

[–]KillaJewels3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You could make the argument that good looks are also considered in the lizard brain, but I wouldn't say it's the main thing that matters; qualities conducive to survival are.

[–]Vikingcel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why?

I can't imagine why would looks be the #1 thing to consider in males back then, unless there is a direct correlation with good looks and good strength, athleticism, skill, dominance.

I am personallly starting to think that looks these days matter because of the inherent status that comes with them.

[–]thrownawayisland11 points12 points  (13 children) | Copy

Day game is my bread and butter and I noticed that pretty much every chick I approach (8's+) are totally shocked that a guy would approach them. Even at the gym yesterday. Every guy was checking out this hot chick from the corner of their eye, and I was the only one to approach.

I literally get called "bold" every day.

[–]pridebrah4 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy

What’s your conversion rate to dates/lays like? Seems like it would be pretty decent if they’re reacting that way.

Also, how do you go about opening at the gym? The baddest chicks at my gym usually have headphones in and come off pretty anti social during their workout time, so I’ve yet to come up with a consistently good strategy to crack through that without being a douche.

[–]thrownawayisland10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

Conversion rate is about 1 in 6 to 10. Out of 10 chicks approached, I'll get 3 to 5 numbers. Out of those 3 to 5 numbers there's generally 2 that will meet for a date, and 1 that will fuck.

It really is a numbers game.

My go to strategy during the day is:

-See a hot chick, and position myself to approach from the front or side (I never come up from behind them and if I do I get a bit ahead before I turn to acknowledge them).

-Put up my fingers with a peace sign, signalling the number 2 and say "hey 2 seconds" with a smile

-Tell them I saw them and thought they were cute and had to say hello. They usually say "oh..." like they are surprised and blush, like this never happens to them.

-I say "My name's X" and go in for a hand shake for some initial kino.

-Brief comment about her or the surrounding ("busy today eh, how's your day going so far?")

-After she tells me about her day (usually she'll say "good, just doing some shopping") I'll say "look I gotta run but we should grab a coffee this week, what's your number?"

-This is generally where she says I have a bf or whatever, but often they will say "um... ok" and then you just hand them your phone with the "add contact" screen ready to go (practice being smooth about this).

In the case of the gym girl, she had headphones on so I put up the two seconds finger thing, and then she took them of. I ran the game above and she said "thank you that is very is bold, but I am married with two kids" and I said "wow I'm not even mad, you look amazing. Well it was cool talking to you" and she was very flattered, and I walked away knowing I did my best.

[–]Catfurst3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

There is a very good and underrated comment.

If you want, when the girl is actually taken, you can also ask her (1) where did she first meet her husband, and/or (2) what is the most amazing quality about her husband. She returns you the favor of validation by divulging this intelligence, which serves to further elevate your game and value.

[–]thrownawayisland1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is awesome! I’ve been trying to find a way to overcome the bf/married women, and this could be a way to get past that shield.

[–]RuleTheOne1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is awesome, I think women like it when you have a quick follow up response to this statement.

Usually things would go quiet after the "I'm taken" statement but I like this one. Not too much, not too little.

[–]YoUaReSoHiLaRiOuS0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hahhaha get it cause the comment is the top comment but still [email protected][email protected]!!!!1111

[–]cornylamygilbert1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

fuck this is encouraging

ballsy fella you are. Time for me to grow a pair

[–]RuleTheOne0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Great comment, I'm going to go practice in the field now lol

[–]thrownawayisland1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do it man! The one thing I think I left out was the addicting rush. I’ll go up to chicks just to get that feeling of adrenaline, and not even caring if I get the number or not haha. Best of luck!

[–]cornylamygilbert0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what’s your proposed date scenario look like? insta-date? grab a drink?

I really need to work on my social value so I have worthy ideas to bait my hook

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I approached a girl at the gym a couple months ago too... I've read a lot online (even here) that that's a no-no but I think if you can position yourself well, assess the situation and assuming you look decent it's a great place to get the #

[–]T-P-T-W-P21 points22 points  (9 children) | Copy

Have you seen any popular rom com movies? All these movie star alphas exhibit incredibly beta behavior (fighting for a woman’s affection, seeing her as “the one”, etc.). Beta behavior is ingrained in our culture. Hell, the first girl advice your mom probably gave you involved being super nice/friendly, and taking girls out to nice dinners on your dime. “Alpha” behavior is a tricky line now though. Of course you can act entirely in ways that we on this sub consider alpha and it work, as it regularly does. But now women have become so used to beta behavior as a norm -> men vying for their affection at all times, that not catering to this norm may have you lose out at times. For example, I banged a chick a couple weeks ago that was slightly above average and easily within my pull range, but her social/job status has a lot of men constantly laying at her feet. I offered none of the things she is offered daily outside of getting fucked. It happened, but as soon as she got a whiff that I wasn’t going to invest heavily in her, if really at all, she was out. Why? Because there is a large number of men, of varying value but almost entirely lower than I, that are willing to invest 100x the amount that I am. I don’t really give a fuck but it’s funny to me when girls who aren’t incredibly hot act like they own shit. Because honestly they kind of do in a way. Half the 6’s and 7’s around now have a bunch of beta weenies lined up, offering their undying love. It’s sad.

[–]ChadTheWaiter1005 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. You are absolutely correct. Although this is nothing revolutionary that you just said it is disgusting; none the less. These days, when you sit back and observe the world, you will see a 6-7 thinking, no fuck that believing with every bone in her body, that she is a 20/10.

AND to make things worse. She has 2 thousand thirsty betas who are supplicating her foolishness.

[–]Ethifury5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

It is bro. I see that shit at my job. There’s this one girl who is technically the best looking one (a solid 6 with makeup) and because she’s heralded as a celebrity here, she puts on an act and every guy eats it up. Young and old. I’ve thought about talking to her but it just ain’t worth my time

[–]T-P-T-W-P5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Of course. Women value themselves comparatively. I’ve laid an 8 with little more than an introduction and a 10 minute conversation because I have the value to do so and because she was amongst a group of even hotter women who grabbed more attention. I’ve also been shit tested into oblivion by a soft 6.5 who was the only sub 40 female in the immediate area that hadn’t been beat with an ugly stick. Their behavior goes with the wind.

[–]Ethifury0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah in my area it’s hard to come by attractive women at times. Do you ever find yourself rating women in the back of your head? I tend to find myself doing that a lot

[–]T-P-T-W-P0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I mean of course, we all do. I live in a large southeastern city so attractive women are not hard to come by. They still act accordingly to their status within their office, friend group, sorority, other grouping though. Hypergamy is very real in my city but on the flip side there is a lot of volume, so many in the 6-8 range see all the Instagram chicks, etc. around and don’t get up on too high of a horse the way they probably do in your area.

[–]Ethifury0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s true. I should probably go downtown one of these days at night and check out an event that’s going on

[–]thrownawayisland2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The funny thing about rom coms (I went through a period where I would bang a chick then she'd want to watch a rom com, and I was like whatever).

They all start with some dude who is alpha, hops from one girl's bedroom to the next, and usually has some exaggerated rule system like "I can only bang you once a week, no breaking the rule!".

But then he quickly develops one-itis for "the one chick who wouldn't play his games", who has multiple dudes as plates. The guy goes full retard beta to compete against the other guys she's plated, and ultimately gets the girl.

It's almost like it's completely backward from how TRP experiences go (we start beta with oneitis, then end up alpha plating multiple chicks).

[–]FalconWrite 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Yup. It’s really fucked out there. I lost 2 plates, back to back, because I was not willing to pay for drinks and dinner before the second time banging them. The market is wacked

[–]T-P-T-W-P6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I understand this very well. I matched on bumble with a chick in my city that has a decent following on Instagram. She was actually very proactive in talking/arranging a date but that quickly fizzled when I was unwilling to drive 45 minutes to pick her up, drive back those 45 minutes to a nice restaurant within a mile of my place, pay for all food and drinks rather than split it, and then drive those 45 back again to drop her off at home. Just for clarification, I’m 23 and she’s 24, I’m not some sugar daddy and she almost certainly makes more money off her page than I do with my work. It doesn’t matter whether they are average or incredibly hot, many believe they have something very special that you have work towards earning. I don’t play around with women who indicate they’re operating from a position of power from the jump.

[–]_iisu4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

On TRP, it's quite rare; on the rest of Internet – non-existent.

The truth is, nobody IRL gives a shit about 'alpha/beta' crap and they just live their lives, socialize, fuck girls, have fun. The only times I heard the term 'alpha' used outside the Internet was on National Geographic and in the calculus class.

[–]Just1515[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Alpha” and “beta” are at best, place holder words to define a concept pertaining to certain behaviours which effect women and mens sexual strategy.

These words literally mean a different thing to every idiot on the internet and even in mainstream society. When we use them in red pill they are just placeholders. Focus on what they conceptually represent instead.

[–]2ComplexProjection3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Post and comments show lack of understanding the concept of alpha and beta. It’s a scale, a relative behavior. You are never alpha or beta, you are more alpha or more beta than... so there is as much alpha today than there always was: 20%, the top ones.

[–]EnthuMotivInspir3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think another factor is the girls who get scooped up at a young age (18-22) were able to settle for more alpha type men, the ones in their vicinity. When you start seeing girls who date well into their 20s - 30s they're dealing with more and more scarcity minded men on average.

Bluepill men still get laid, I got laid when I was, but it was at the complete mercy of a girl randomly choosing one unattractive dude out of thousands.

All I can say is, "Be the change you want to see in the world"

[–]BornOnMay3rd6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some girls keep getting hit on betas all the time that they have no idea Alphas even existed

[–]frontyer00777 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well it is uncommon for them, thats why it work so well. Thats also why every girl will call you an asshole when refusing to do some stupid shit fornthem, but gladly suck your dick some hours later.

Theyre used to beta attention, they get it all the time.

[–]MarvelousWhale2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hasn't anyone even considered the fact that women fuck alphas at work and when they go back into the workplace they ignore eachother or even avoid eachother to keep appearances?

This could be one of the things going on here. I've experienced this first hand.

[–]civilizedfrog1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In the land of blue, the red is king.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty rare.

Control your environment with honor and strength. Be good to yourself but do not over give, do not throw yourself down at a woman's feet and she will rise up and walk with you feeling empowered and confident.

Make of yourself a king and princesses will flock to be your queen.

[–]MCA_T1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is too true, see so many college/young girls choosing skinny, dweeby, girls jeans wearing beta pansies who are basically still 14 year olds in college/uni instead of alpha/manly guys.

Alot of young girls hate the masculine type of guy and just see them as bellends due to "lad culture" in the UK and feminism. people displaying alpha/masculine personalities are shunned.

[–]yokohamalrasheid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can't rely on a woman's word, if you believe me 😜 I have heard that from many .

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What does supplicating mean in this context?

[–]Just1515[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Putting her needs first. Compromising your own stance or opinion to win favour with her for for no reason other than getting in her “good books”.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah fuck that I don’t do that with anybody based on principle because I’d hate that. So I’m probabbllyy good then

[–]boom_bostic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She’s telling you what she thinks you want to hear. Typical female behavior, honestly.

It’s in the same boat as “that’s the biggest dick I’ve ever had” or the infamous “you’re the first to ever make me cum during sex”. I personally cannot remember a girl that didn’t tell me these things.

It’s kind of women’s way of complementing you...even if it’s not entirely true.

Bottom line-I take it that she really likes you.

[–]nross3680 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She must make you feel realllllll good like a real alpha boi

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's a result of society treating masculinity as toxic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yet another reminder that being alpha/beta is a different thing than just self improvement.

[–]E9er0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this is the essence of the REDPILL.. most guys are clueless and try and attract with toys, but lack substance. the red pill encourages you to build a solid foundation so you can shine on that. then any other toy is just an extra tool. girls WANT a bland guy with 10 toys, but NEEDS a guy with a personality and conversational skills.

[–]pengistgeez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Xx zzz

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

agreed. its insane to me how rare it is (at least in my experience) to see a dude who is "good on paper" and is also a genuine alpha. What I see frequently is dudes that absolutely slay pussy but have jack shit to their name. Conversely, the guys "good on paper" are complete bitches and cannot struggle to get pussy. Its kind of frustrating

[–]escapethesolarsystem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In America, it's about 99.9% beta. Not the same where I live, but America / UK / Canada / Australia are most beta cuck societies on Earth. Even American "alphas" and "chads" turn out to be fake once you get to know what's really going on with their life.



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