RSD Julien gets schooled by CNN

Baylien2 · 2014-11-18T04:31:39+00:00

If you're going to be made the villain by the media then own it because ultimately you will be revered for it by your followers. Its better to be hated by many and loved by few than to be a coward in everyone's eyes.

LastRevision · 2014-11-17T23:54:47+00:00

I love how CNN guy LEADS with the FRAME DESTROYING "you seem noticeably nervous, Julien..." That guy knows exactly what's up.

Edit: I never followed Julien on any social media, but from what they pulled from his Twitter and YouTube on CNN, the guy was ASKING for it and as much as I like Owen, he should have been on top of what his company was representing.

DoctorWelch · 2014-11-17T22:53:42+00:00

I feel bad for the dude, I wouldn't be surprised if he was completely against going on there and doing that. Owen probably forced him to do this so his business wouldn't get fuck up.

Espada18 · 2014-11-18T01:12:26+00:00

He fucked up by turning up to that interview, he fucked up again by acting like a bitch when the host was pressing him. I mean is that even allowed? That host is clearly trying to embarrass him, not get an unadulterated interview.

After that dreadful mistake he'll lose the respect of his clients and many people, including SJW's and feminists. At least own up to it, tell them why you were choking the woman for fucks sake, tell them they love it. Its in their nature, hence why the woman in the video is smiling. Put that smug of a host in his place goddamn it.

should_ · 2014-11-17T21:09:20+00:00

Wish it could be the way it was before.

Esther Vilar writes an outrageous book that slays women and the women's movement. Interview against hostile feminist interviewer considered the head of the movement; interview is in the feminist's domain. The frame is maintained. Turn closed captions on, gentlemen.

I guess in Vilar's case it was "I don't believe that women are oppressed, in fact we use men" and Blanc was more like "I'm sorry I said racist things and was slightly violent." But it still feels like we're regressing.

TheDarkTriad · 2014-11-17T23:44:04+00:00

I'm not sure why he would even agree to do this interview. He had to know he would be attacked by the interviewer. It made him look worse in my opinion.

Aerobus · 2014-11-18T03:14:19+00:00

Julien shouldn't have even agreed to it. He should have told them that he is not going to apologize, even if offends people. He should have issued a statement saying that he uses these tactics because ultimately they work.

Instead he looked like a beta bitch, and caused many women to hate him and lose attraction to him.

vandaalen · 2014-11-17T22:23:42+00:00

I have no sympathy for this sociopathic piece of shit.

Only god knows how many boys and men will stear clear from anything just slightly related to RP because of all the shit he pulled off just to fill his pockets, fuel his ego and satisfy his need for the thrills.

First he behaves in the exact same way that every single one of us is accused to secretly be like, and when faced with the consequences, he's got nothing better to do, than apologize on international TV, like a weak bitch?

That's just fucking damage control for himself, nothing else.

What's even worse is, that by that he covertly approved of all accussations that are made against RP men.

Fuck that guy.

fuckingkike · 2014-11-17T21:39:02+00:00

Dude's been kicked out of or banned from how many countries now, with how many more on the waiting list? That's some heavy shit for an international executive to deal with, much less a dating coach. Given enough pressure, anyone will fold. Dude has my sympathy.

I will of course be denouncing him in public any time this comes up in a situation where real people know me, though. Gotta keep up plausible deniability.

Speed9402 · 2014-11-17T23:37:05+00:00

Dude is a dumbass for that Japan video. He's posted some good material so I'm surprised he would do something like that.No good is gonna come from not apologizing and sinking with that ship.

Sometimes you gotta know when you are in the wrong as well. That was some flatout slimy behavior in Japan. I don't necessarily agree with Australia and whomever else banning him like a criminal because at the end of the day he wasn't arrested or charged with anything so he should be allowed to work(That's a slippery slope if I saw one, but Australia is supposed to be a SJW shitfest nowadays). It amazes me that they are smart enough to run a successful business, but can't see past making such small errors that obviously weren't gonna fly from a PR/SJW perspective.

fasterpussycatdie · 2014-11-17T21:39:14+00:00

This is where it helps to engage the opposition on a regular basis, and learn to defend your position(s).

2014-11-17T21:26:06+00:00

These PUAs are going down the drain. What sensible man is gonna risk being seen in a PUA seminar in public?

redditor1618 · 2014-11-18T16:40:16+00:00

Why did he have to apologize three times? He might be great at convincing women to have sex with him, but when confronted with a real challenge he looks a bit weak.

xRILLIANx · 2014-11-18T21:19:20+00:00

I think what a lot of y'all are forgetting and aren't understanding is the huge barrage of shit Julien has been slung through in the past couple weeks. Banned from multiple countries, attacked internationally by major media outlets and feminists worldwide, very likely now jobless.

A lot of you who are saying what he did wrong and what he should have done: yes, in theory, you are right. In practice, I think you'd find that everyone has a breaking point.

The only people who could get that much global hate in that short of a time and walk it off are those who are truly rich and powerful (think international celebrities, Obama, Bill Gates, Putin, etc), because they have the money and the international power of respect. Julien didn't have either of these (at least not nearly to the level of the aforementioned) before he became hated worldwide. He was, for the most part, an ordinary guy who tried to be alpha.

I'm not saying that TRP shouldn't apply to interviews and in defense against attacks to character. These are exactly the places one SHOULD apply frame. But a lot of you need to recognize Julien for who he really is, and take it as a lesson learned, rather than criticize him for apologizing and breaking down.

PublicallyViewable · 2014-11-17T23:53:23+00:00

That's sad. What an unfortunate situation. Nobody will give him the chance of the day to explain his situation, unless they already know what he was about. All they'll see is a confirmation of their preconceived notions about PUAs as sexual predators and/or rapists.

I don't watch as much of Julien's stuff as I do Owen's, but when I'm watching Owen's I get this overwhelming sense that he's genuinely working from a place of love, and that he's using the PUA platform to share powerful lessons that can help the audience become better people.

Watermelon_Salesman · 2014-11-18T08:40:26+00:00

He apologizes like a bitch, looks nervous as hell, fails all the shit tests and fails to hold frame.

I strongly disagree.

As much as I think he is a piece of shit, I think he handled the situation well enough. Not like a champ, but not that bad either. He doesn't choke much, doesn't stutter, and actually responds accordingly to what's asked. He doesn't look that nervous - at least not as much as he should be, given his predicament, and as for shit tests I don't really know what you're talking about.

Apologizing, at least for him and at this point, might not save face that much, but in his case it might be a matter of staying out of jail. God knows what people might still come up with. I would guess there will be rape accusations soon.

InscrutablePUA · 2014-11-18T00:27:49+00:00

Julien did all this to gain attention... well he got it, and instead of just shutting up for a while and laying low, he blew it on national TV. Fucking idiot.

I think Mystery handled his interview on Conan better, despite dressing like Indiana Jones and Conan constantly clowning on him.

bsutansalt · 2014-11-17T20:41:52+00:00

First Adam Lyons falls and now this.

/r/TheRedPill/comments/2dae5q/adam_lyons_even_the_best_puas_can_go_full_beta/

Just goes to show that even the biggest players can be still be blue pill as hell. In this case, completely failing shit tests and failing to maintain frame.

Cock_unblocker · 2014-11-18T01:53:04+00:00

Wow what a little pussy, he got fucking man handled.

Johnny10toes · 2014-11-18T00:58:17+00:00

I think he was trying to spin it with a joke angle but forgot that the media spins shit like it's their job.

tedted8888 · 2014-11-19T02:15:00+00:00

What is he apologizing for? Wearing a shirt that says 'I dont like fat bitches'? I paid attention to tyler and jeffy. What did Julien teach? Tyler talked about taking sips from girls drinks, but only when your 'in the zone' and its very risky. I think in the jeffy show he talked about his sex van. What did Julien do that was so bad?

TheBunBun54321 · 2014-11-17T23:47:53+00:00

Fuck man they got Julien?!

first they went for the frustrated "nice guys" who complained about being friendzoned, picketed and ridiculed mens rights activism, now they're pulling the PUA'S out from under the woodwork, banning them from countries.

soon will be RedPillers/MGTOW. it's all over, we're finished! Our resolve will soon be crushed under the iron fist of the feminist lobby. Repent! Repent! The end is nigh'!

MyNewAccount9 · 2014-11-18T04:37:46+00:00

I had a different reaction.

To me, the reporter looked like a pompous ass. And Julien looked like a mischievous little manipulator or prankster.

He has this mischievous glint in his eyes. And you know that HE knows what he's saying is bullshit.

It felt to me like this is all game for Julien--just kind of part of his scheme.

That was my take.

crawnick · 2014-11-18T20:18:56+00:00

He lost frame? What? The frame he projected the entire time was one that showed he viewed his past mistakes, went over them, was sorry about them, and will work to change that in the future.

Owning up to your fuck-up isn't beta and it certainly doesn't convey any loss of frame. Did you want him to go on national television and say "I love choking bitches and that chart right there? HAH bitches deserve abuse."

Of course not. Neither man broke their frame, and it's not as is this wasn't a public apology. That is exactly what it was, caculated and executed - and the man got to show his side of the story as much as he could.

Jesus this sub baffles me sometimes.

14931125 · 2014-11-18T08:28:04+00:00

He fucked up by posting crass jokes and trying to get a reaction from Jezebel.

But honestly his interview was the best thing he could have done. He is trying to save his business. If he stuck to his guns it would have caused him to be banned from more countries/ more SJW agression. He has a video where he talks about always holding the frame, except that the expense of losing the girl.

He wanted to look like the victim, wanted to look sorry and weak.

Title	RSD Julien gets schooled by CNN
Author	Better_True_Than_Blu
Upvotes	34
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Date	November 17, 2014 6:13 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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