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Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (11 March 2018)

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March 11, 2018

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Title	Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (11 March 2018)
Author	AutoModerator
Upvotes	3
Comments	111
Date	March 11, 2018 6:10 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/83oeqf/weekly_offtopicsunday_megathread_11_march_2018/
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[–]MercedesBenzoAMGbringing percocets molly percocet back to ppd0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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I disagree, often "break up" is great advice. I know a lot of couples who look miserable together, their faces show it, their body language shows it, it is in their voice and how they interact, being around their defeated air is like the best ever thing for single people. Typically they do not want to break up or get divorced because of lassitude, they fear change more than they fear being miserable. I think a lot of women who were SAHM who have kids who are close to being empty nest or already there stay because they fear giving up the comfortable lifestyle they had. They do not want to be 40 plus/50 plus women trying to get back in the workforce. They do not want to be humiliated by having a job that they think is "beneath" them and their undergrad degree in liberal arts or whatever combined with 20 or 20 plus years not in the workforce scares them. The men do not want to put effort into a new woman even if they are not into their wives they would rather stay with somebody who tolerates them than risk getting rejected by somebody new. Usually they end up staying together and just leading separate but parallel lives. Most of my friends who went through a divorce but had real jobs suffered much less than the SAHM ladies because they already knew how to real with real world stuff because they had already been doing it. The SAHM ladies don't really know how the world operates they have just been lunching and shopping and book clubbing and taking their ungrateful kids to lessons and sports for several years. They think that is the world, and are pretty shocked to find out it is not plus they have to share the world with the great unwashed gross working class people who do not show them enough deference. It can be super upsetting for them.

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[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well here is a meta analysis of the field of human attraction. Sounds like what you want....

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6cps40/a_scientific_study_that_actually_does_provide/

The thread I linked was me examining the hypergamous part of its conclusions... but the link to the study is at the top of my OP and it contains a meta analysis and summary of human mate choice split by Male and female. It’s the state of the field as of about a decade ago.

If there is more you want after this, let me know. I can find this stuff pretty easily on most sexual strategy subjects now as I’ve developed google-fu skills in using the right terms to drag the scientific articles out of google seeing as the scientific terms commonly differ from RP terms or even common parlance.

If there is any particular part of the meta analysis you want more on, let me know.

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[–]TheGreasyPoleObjectively Pro-moderate filth0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Thank you, it is a fascinating read, should be obligatory for everyone who posts here. Several questions: there seem to be a wider literature on the social influences on mate choice, do you happen to have also dabbled in that a bit?

Yes. In so far as my primary interest is the genetic angle but all human behaviour is defined by “Genes + Environment” so it’s both necessary to know the environment stuff (which includes society) and also useful from the angle of “if you eliminate what’s environmentally caused, what’s left isn’t what’s genetically caused”.

I was initially looking for research on preferences for sexual practices by gender (rough sex, anal, s&m etc) because there was a discussion earlier where everybody just talked about their own experiences.

Well that’s going to be tricky. People don’t self report this kind of stuff well, and although there may be studies on sexuality in general I’m not sure they’d go into gender differences by link in particular.

What might be very useful to you here is “found data”. Data people reveal with real world actions without knowing they are revealing it. This is likely to be more honest and more useful... and the particular data I’m thinking of is pornhubs records of “searches for porn by sex”.

That’s going to reveal which sexes are interested in which kinks quite clearly, and be very up to date as well (I suspect studies conducted in, say, the 60s and 70s would be our of date with respect to modern links).

There data in general is available here (nsfw link, obviously)

https://www.pornhub.com/insights/

And their 2017 search data by gender is available here

https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2017-year-in-review

It’s near the bottom, after the country data. Here is the graphic...

searches by gender

categories selected by gender

They do these every year so you can also find the 2016, 2015 data etc etc on their site.

They also just did a women’s special for international women’s day with female specific data

https://www.pornhub.com/insights/popular-with-women

I came up pretty empty handed there (except finding one study that only broke it down by vag/oral/anal and put the numbers at oral 50% of women and anal 20%).

Well this should help :)

I notice (for example) that “rough sex” is 6th most searches term for women, but does not appear in the male top 25.... whilst anal appears at 10th most searched term for men and not in the female top 25.

Both threesome and gangbang also seem very popular with women, but aren’t on men’s list.

In the categories graphic they even show the terms with the biggest f/m differential. Rough sex, ganbang and bondage all seem to be about twice as popular with women as men.

Obviously this is “what are their fantasies” data rather than “what they actually do in the real world” stuff, but it seemed that’s what you were looking for.

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OK, well you've got the links now same as I have. You can go look for yourself.

I tend to agree that these are probably not representative samples of either sex. They're going to be people who "are the type to create an account at pornhub".

But, again, they're not going to be representative samples of either sex in sociology studies either. There they're going to tend to be almost exclusively.... young, white, western, intelligent, university students overwhelmingly drawn from the psychology/sociology department... because thats who sociologists/psychologists use in almost all their studies because they're whats available to them.

It's extremely expensive and difficult to do a cross-cultural/cross-age group/cross-ethnicity/cross-socioeconomic class study.

I did find this

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bruce_Ellis3/publication/237934379_Sex_differences_in_sexual_fantasy_An_evolutionary_psychological_approach/links/56fe95a608aea6b77468cc7d.pdf

But it's not got the kind of detail you want, it's a bit too vague. I suspect you're going to find that a lot. It's not going to go down into individual kinks.

Here's another

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/b4b8/d2aa8b5c0e85b625ebeb841db1150fe4af65.pdf

But agin... it's about more general "dominance" or "submissive" type fantasies.... not "anal versus rough sex" type stuff. I thin the PornHub stuff is the only things that are going to have that.

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This is what has happened to me over the last six months.

I found one property which had been on the market for ages. They were really struggling to sell it because it was trashed, so it was worth way more than the asking price. So I offered the asking price, but there was another interested party, and they ultimately offered the asking price as well. Ended up in a bidding war, wasn't really keen on going too much higher, so got gazumped.

Found another place just down the road, immediately had an offer accepted, got a mortgage in principle offer, jumped through loads of hoops providing endless documents, solicitors had done some of the process...mortgage company pulled the plug at the last minute, said they wouldn't lend to me, and wouldn't tell me why. They just said to me, we don't have to tell you legally, and we're not telling you.

Found a third place now, quite pleased as this one is better than the last one and beautiful location overlooking a canal. Went to that Help to Buy scheme (which shouldn't be necessary as I've saved up over £100,000 in the last few years, and it is all savings, I didn't own a property to sell, but I'm just doing this to reduce the mortgage). Mortgage adviser has assured me that it should go through, but I'm still waiting to find out, supposed to be completed by end of April at the latest.

If this doesn't work then I'm going to get one of those shared ownership houses, and not have a mortgage. Not the ideal solution, but I've been renting for long enough now, and I'm bored of dealing with solicitors, mortgage companies, estate agents, etc.

Buying a place around here on your own is not easy. You basically need to be one of three things:

(a) a footballer;

(b) married to a footballer;

Unfortunately: (a) I'm not a footballer;

(b) I'm not married to a footballer;

Good luck! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

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