Q4R&PP: Do you hate women or think they are inferior?

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2016-03-27T23:15:52+00:00

I think women are inferior to men at being men, which is what modern culture pushes them to be. I think this is what people perceive as rp thinking women are inferior to men as well

betterdeadthanbeta · 2016-03-28T05:43:01+00:00

Personally, i hate women. Eve? Pandora? Helen of Troy? Most of humanitys problems trace directly to women. Women have been this unproductive lodestone fit for little other than menial labor. "Protect us!" they cry. So men become soldiers, builders, geniuses. We create factories and robots to provide the comfortable materialistic existence women crave.

Then all of a sudden its, "i wasnt weak and cowardly and dumb... I wasnt inventing things or fighting in the world wars because you Oppressed me. Shitlord. Give me 50% of all the best job. Whats a STEM? Oh well. Give me 50% of it anyway, you gross rapey nerds."

energyvolley · 2016-03-28T00:28:41+00:00

I am not a misogynist and don't hate anyone, let alone women.

Women are inferior in some (maybe many) pursuits but they don't have the benefit of testosterone. As Atlas says, men are better at being men. But women are cool, and I like 'em.

Apexk9 · 2016-03-27T23:41:20+00:00

I don't hate women

But women are inferior when you compare the top female to the top male in any catagory that's a simple truth.

The top female tennis players couldn't beat a 203 ranked male who wasn't even in great shape played a round a golf and was drinking in the morning then he faced them back to back and there are levels of iq that women haven't reached while males have a few people.

Are there women smarter then me of course are there women stronger then me yes.

But are men superior to women at the peak of our species capabilities. Of course anyone who belives other wise is honestly delusional

DaphneDK · 2016-03-28T04:19:02+00:00

Women are inferiour to men in many ways, but I tend to like them better than men all the same. Most of my friends are girls. They also smell way better.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2016-03-28T03:48:58+00:00

No, I do not believe women are inferior to men.

I happen to believe both men and women are equally human and thus equally capable of rationality and agency. Both men and women therefore have/should have the same rights and responsibilities, and both men and women should be treated with common decency. I also think that they shouldn't be socially compelled into gender roles; people should be allowed to gravitate towards their own preferences, whether they be typical or atypical.

I think society generally infantilizes women (and this is often perpetuated by/taken advantage of by women themselves). Reasoning and rationality are skills/habits which need to be cultivated, and our society in general doesn't do this with women like it does with men. As such, there may in fact be a real-life gap between male and female rationality but this is (in my view) fixable. The potential of the sexes is still equal.

Are there some differences between the sexes in certain subjects? Well clearly males are in general capable of superior athletic performance (on an average basis) and a very small number of male outliers generally dominate the absolute upper echelons of the STEM subjects. But the top athletes and top scientists are outliers and they don't really say much about the typical man or woman. I think that if you look at the top 5% instead of the top 1%, gender disparity mostly disappears anyway, so the fixation that some feminists have on extreme freaks of nature (I don't use this in a negative sense) just makes very little sense to me.

And sure, there is very much an argument that men are genetically more varied than women; this creates both more male geniuses and more male idiots.

How much TRP do you have to reject before you are purple do you think?

It depends on how you define TRP. My own view is that biological determinism (or at least a belief that biology is the principal determining factor and culture and free will are relatively minor), a "tight bell-curves" view of individual variation (i.e. that outliers/atypicals are insignificant), and a belief that traditional gender roles were generally positive and society would be better if we returned to them, are pretty much essential to TRP's worldview. Reject any of those underpinnings and you're probably not "fully" red.

JBrogrammer · 2016-03-28T00:06:35+00:00

No I definitely don't. I love women. I think they are cute and adorable and lovely. I hate to even the question of them being "inferior" because I think it's such a loaded question to ask and to even ask it makes faulty assumptions about the role of men and women in society, and what makes us happy. Men and women are different.

The problem is that most of the things that women excel at, the things that women are better than men at, are social, and so can't be quantified easily, which leads to a lot of people just outright disregarding them.

That includes braindead lefty robots, who internalise their belief of women's inferiority and say things that on the surface seem to defend women but in fact expose their true beliefs. Beliefs that they cannot change because they cannot see the value that women have due to their limited scope for what constitutes "ability" or "value".

Most TRP posters cannot see it either, and so at it's currently level I will acknowledge that mainstream TRP does not give women the credit or value that they in fact have.

On what you said about the strawman arguments that've been shot at you. I have never seen any respected RP poster (ie, non anger-phase chump) seriously say anything that implied that all men are smarter than all women. It's just not true. Strawman is easy when you're a doublethinking regressive left lunatic like most of reddit. Just ignore them.

Kellermann · 2016-03-28T00:39:26+00:00

I feel it's a bit like a character creation screen in an RPG, you get let's say 20 skill points to spend for your character but ability to give birth costs 10. There you go..

leftajar · 2016-03-28T02:26:19+00:00

According to intelligence data, men have a slightly higher average IQ, with a substantially larger standard deviation.

Meaning, when you really zoom in on the right tail, representing the most brilliant people, men grossly outnumber women. And the smarter you go, the more they diverge.

This is why most major achievements came from men. We should consider, instead, that they came from humanity.

winndixie · 2016-03-28T02:51:28+00:00

No I love women. The women I'm currently with is always the superior woman. I take no weak ones.

cxj · 2016-03-28T03:18:03+00:00

No and no, I just think they are different and evolved towards different tendencies. They have different strengths and weaknesses.

daveofmars · 2016-03-28T03:42:22+00:00

Why would I hate? Why would I want to ruin my good mood with it?

I have a mom, a sister, and GF. I love them all. I want what's best for them, but what YOU think is best for them is far different than what I think is best for them. Nevertheless, I don't want to see them unhappy. Funny enough, my views don't come from a place of hate.

Eulabeia · 2016-03-28T03:59:11+00:00

TRP took this and ran with it, extrapolating to "All men are smarter than all women

Show me literally just one person that says this.

[deleted] · 2016-03-28T08:03:29+00:00

I dont't hate them, I just recognize they're different

[deleted] · 2016-03-28T12:40:33+00:00

No, in fact growing up I always looked up to my mum a lot more than I looked up to my dad. My mum accomplished like 10x more in her life than my dad ever did easy.

I don't even care about having kids so the whole thing about wanting a woman who makes a good mother isn't a concern to me either.

Why am I not blue then? Because men and women and different and the women I've dated like a dominant strong man. I apply this stuff to my dating life. Doesn't mean I look down on women or think they don't belong in the professional world.

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[deleted] · 2016-03-28T03:09:03+00:00

I wouldn't be in this business of spending time on the internet discussing gender if I didn't absolutely love women.

Darth_Sin · 2016-03-28T07:16:58+00:00

I neither hate women nor I think they are inferior. Women are different than men.

To me, women are overrated and the cost required to be in a romantic relationship with one is astronomical whereas the benefits are negligible.

[deleted] · 2016-03-28T09:49:42+00:00

There is a huge jump from the point I realised women are complex and perfectly capable of selfish and/or shallow motivations, relationships and sex included, to the point of hating the entire genger.

Accountability, not hate.

[deleted] · 2016-03-28T11:11:44+00:00

I just think the women in the western world have been coddled to such levels that I can't deal with most of them. Maybe I'd think differently if I didn't go to school in the socioeconomic coddling epicenter.

GaiusScaevolus · 2016-03-28T13:42:49+00:00

TRP took this and ran with it, extrapolating to "All men are smarter than all women.

Nope.

You had the first half right, men are humanities testing gender, so there's much more variance in men. More male geniuses, more male morons.

Women and men are complementary to each other, but arguing either genders wholesale superiority is nonsense. It's like comparing bananas and bagels.

[deleted] · 2016-03-28T16:22:31+00:00

No I think women are superior

Johnny_Lawless_Esq · 2016-03-28T17:24:10+00:00

Look at my flair. I'm a complete and total egalitarianist, and I spend a lot of my time on RP sticking holes in the bullshit pseudoscience that crops up there about how women are intrinsically babies, etc. etc.

The true problem, in my mind, isn't women. Women are great, I like women. Yeah, they aren't as big, strong, or fast as men, on average, but as far as the shit that needs doing that actually moves society forward, there's no question in my mind that they can participate in that on equal footing with men. Whatever problems they have in this regard are almost always the result of cultural inculcation, not in-born nature.

The problem is (modern) feminism. But that's a different post.

Equilibriun · 2016-03-28T18:42:41+00:00

I hate certain women. The ones that try to be men. Unfeminine. I'm not even talking about ugly. You can be ugly as fuck and I can still be attracted to you if you are feminine. I can appreciate at least that aspect of you.

Yes, women are physically inferior. Whatever. Go blame nature. Also women have more times when they are rationally inferior in general. I also act like a five year old sometimes when I'm cranky. Just not even close to as often or as long.

YaBoiTibzz · 2016-03-29T03:42:51+00:00

When people say these things they are getting things confused. No one hates "women" as in all 3 point whatever billion of them. That's so stupid it's not even funny. I guess there are probably a few extreme MGTOWs out there somewhere that literally hate women just for being women, but by and large it's more nuanced than that.

TRP for example, they don't hate all women, they hate certain kinds of women; feminists, women they perceive as "gold diggers" or "divorce rapers," etc. Since the behaviors they attack are very socially acceptable and even encouraged in mainstream culture, it creates that huge backlash that makes people want to label them total misogynists. But not even TRP just hates all women indiscriminately, that's such an oversimplification.

As a purple I personally don't "hate women" (lol as if anyone would answer otherwise) but I do hate SJWs for instance, many of whom happen to be women, and that will get me labeled muh soggy nist if I show even a little hint of it in the wrong crowds. But they have it wrong, it's nothing to do with gender and everything to do with ideology..... I hate male SJWs equally as much, maybe even more lol

[deleted] · 2016-03-30T01:00:14+00:00

I don't hate women nor do I think they are inferior.

I believe that everyone should be judged on the merit of their character and not assumed special status due to their "victimhood".

In this way I believe feminism in itself is sexist, to say that women are more equal then men. I believe BLM is racist to say black people are more equal than white people. However if I was to judge a women by the same merits I judge a man I would be labelled sexist. If I was to judge a black male by the same merits that I judge a white male, I would be labelled a racist.

So for instance in my personal experience I've found women to not work as hard as men, that makes me sexist right? well that's just my experience.

energyvolley · 2016-03-28T00:19:53+00:00

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[deleted] · 2016-03-28T03:53:07+00:00

Women are more emotional and less logical on average.

Not that I hate them but damn, do they annoy me sometimes.

sittinginabaralone · 2016-03-28T01:42:02+00:00

I definitely dislike more women than men. I meet more who don't know their place. Probably the worst quality in a person if you ask me. But I don't dislike anyone I've never interacted with.

dopesk1 · 2016-03-28T10:18:03+00:00

I dont hate them but i feel a bit disappointed in god that this was his selection/plan for mans other half.

I dunno they just kinda suck, not all of them ive met some great women, theyre a minority though

Its just kinda like when you buy groceries and the plastic bag breaks. Like really? Obviously you can get on with things but it could have been better

Shaenon · 2016-03-28T05:38:56+00:00

'TRP took a pretty rational position that was something like "Men are nature's genetic gamble and thus there are far more male geniuses and prodigies than their female counter parts."'

But that's not rational at all. It's an idea that flatters the egos of sad men. Do you guys even know what "rational" means? Because I do, and I'm a lady.

[deleted] · 2016-03-28T07:42:03+00:00

They are inferior, and yet despite that the world rotates around them, and yet despite that they claim to be oppressed/underprivileged.

They're like an employee who was hired just because they're the boss' nephew, who can't do anything and does not want to learn how to do anything, yet bitches all the time about how much his work "sucks".

How could I not hate them?

Title	Q4R&PP: Do you hate women or think they are inferior?
Author	moodyprism
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Comments	127
Date	March 27, 2016 11:10 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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