Q4RP: Why is the banning policy so strong and authoritarian to defend the sub from being 'corrupted by feminist/leftist dogma' if you're all amused masters of Machiavellianism and Game?

Ausei · 2015-12-22T19:08:46+00:00

It isn't fear, it is simply keeping it from getting watered down. If you come in with a leftist idea but it is backed up then you aren't banned. If you make a no effort post which is what they usually are then they have no place there.

Cyralea · 2015-12-22T19:25:20+00:00

It then seems obtuse to me that the space could so easily be influenced by 'leftist dialectic' and slowly become another leftist space

It has literally happened already. Go look at /r/seduction, compared to what it was 4 years ago. Complete shift in tone and appeasement towards women. "Leave her better than you found her". Fuck me, that shit is supposed to help men?

It's a slow subversion that starts with incremental steps. The analogy of boiling a frog in hot water applies here.

Xemnas81 · 2015-12-22T19:08:09+00:00

I think if you let feminists invade a space they will use strawman and emotional tactics.

They will also attempt to "take over the leadership" and change the forum.

This has happened to Atheism plus recently, which has collapsed. They attempt to influence some weak mangina to "ban" anyone hostile to their message.

They work on the dudes who are weak with few scruples.

Xemnas81 · 2015-12-22T19:22:02+00:00

Do you let people shit in your bed with no repercussions?

There is no reason for TRP to be accepting of other views, its an internet forum, not a fucking democracy

GaiusScaevolus · 2015-12-22T19:44:45+00:00

Anyone who has seen the changes in seddit over the past 3 years knows exactly why we're so proactive.

I also don't consider our moderation policy/approach all that strict. It's just that a lot of people can't seem to follow a few very simple rules. There's also this weird idea a lot of non-RP folks seem to have that we over at /r/TRP are running some sort of open forum where you are free to come and challenge our ideas. We aren't. If you want to debate or argue from a non-TRP, that's what /r/PurplePillDebate is for and I and other are happy to discuss with you, but that's not what our sub is for.

Essentially /r/TRP isn't a forum, it's a club house. If you're a member or interested in learning, you're welcome, if you're anti-RP, it's not for you.

darkmoon09 · 2015-12-22T19:53:55+00:00

Because the feminist/left have already invaded every other male space. Why can't men have their own space without worrying about it being influenced by blue pillers and feminists? I think the better question here is why is the feminist left so hell bent on destroying male spaces? Why are they afraid of us having our own discussions telling it like it is without politically correct censorship? TRP may be a circlejerk from time to time but's it's still offers a safe space for men to talk about exactly what's on their minds without being labeled an asshole who needs to be banned.

FleetingWish · 2015-12-22T20:56:48+00:00

It is not that blue pill thought is "alluring", it is distracting. The red pill is a place for learning how to battle shit tests, not for actually battling shit tests.

It is a little like asking why the military bothers with boot camp. The whole point of boot camp is to learn how to fight in war... so why don't we just put people straight into war? The reason is it is best to learn while not under the pressures of an actual war. You need a space that is seperate to teach necessary tools first.

So the reasons are:

It is impossible to teach while being overrun by distractions. In a place like reddit, if they let feminists/detractors in for the sake of fighting them, you would see a majority of posts like that, and you'd have to dig through the rubble to find the "teaching" posts.
A lot of the members don't have it figured out yet. The whole point of the red pill is too teach these techniques to others. That means that the members range from members who have it all figured out to those who have just started.

Ultimately, the red pill is not afraid of being "corrupted", "swayed", or "allured" by feminism. Red pillars are around people like this all the time in their daily lives and it doesn't sway them. In fact the whole point of PPD is to create a space for feminists to argue their case againt red pillars. And surprisingly, a lot of us are still red pillars after being exposed to it.

Whisper · 2015-12-22T21:07:44+00:00

If you have to say it's not concern trolling, it is.

You're projecting.

You want a TRP with open borders. That's because wanking about discussing abstract concepts endlessly is your comfort zone. You'd rather debate endlessly about the merits of the red pill with every jerkoff who comes along, rather than test it for yourself and see.

And that's precisely what TRP would turn into if we opened the borders. Endless debate.

Men like you are gods in the philosophy department of small liberal-arts universities, and you are shit in nightclubs and social gatherings where human mating dynamics actually happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2OcbeGqbpU

Jacksambuck · 2015-12-22T21:12:38+00:00

I don't support banning opponents, and agree with your criticism of TRP on their policies, but it's true that feminists/progressives have coopted a lot of mostly unrelated movements/spaces and made them all about feminism.

The atheism community and the gamer community are now separated in two sides, at war with each other, thanks to feminist activity. Here on reddit, most of the anarchist and communist subs (/r/communism , /r/anarchism , etc) are completely feministicized: criticism of anarchism or communism is more tolerated than criticism of feminism. The circlebroke subs and SRD used to be a bit more conservative than reddit, now you often can't tell them apart from SRS.

Nazrath2112 · 2015-12-22T22:30:48+00:00

Go try and post fat acceptance in /r/fitness and see how far that gets you. Usually when there is a place to talk about any topic, lets say female rights, any discussion of the opposite, lets say male rights, usually leads to scorn and people attacking the poster. It is no different in TRP than anywhere else.

[deleted] · 2015-12-22T19:21:08+00:00

Because /r/TheRedPill is a place to develop the theory, not to argue it. To argue it, we have PPD. And it's not like we cram PPD over where nobody will listen to it. This place is overwhelmingly red.

hyperrreal · 2015-12-23T00:36:26+00:00

This has been removed because your title is a violation of our neutrality guidelines. The last clause is sort of circlejerky as well as makes an affirmative claim.

djchazradio · 2015-12-22T19:29:21+00:00

Funny thing is that Redpillers use the phrase "safe space" without any hint of irony like they're a freshman in college or a Tublrina writing their first blog from their parents's house.

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