Removing the Red from Red

PemBayliss · 2015-10-28T13:37:48+00:00

Calling out women on their shit = "hatred"

pointing out women's bad behavior = "hatred"

Accurate descriptions of women's sexual and social nature = "misogyny"

Accurate descriptions of women's treatment of men = "misogyny"

Men asking that they benefit from relationships = "over the top manipulation"

Men wanting benefits for themselves from their relationships = "over the top manipulation"

Men leaving shitty relationships = "over the top manipulation

Men refusing to enter into disadvantageous relationships = "over the top manipulation"

Men using their attractive qualities to their advantage = "over the top manipulation"

TheGreasyPole · 2015-10-28T13:40:54+00:00

Yes, that is by and large what about 60%+ of the senior successful RP guys do.

If anything, I maintain it works better... Some of the guys disagree.

But basically, thats what most RPM's do..... Read everything that works in an amoral manner, with no regard for being offended or offending others.... Then afterwards, decide what of that super-set of information they are personally morally comfortable applying.

We all then apply it according to our own morals.

So if you're a non-hater, non-misogynist.... You apply those bits that aren't hateful or misogynistic.

And wherever your personal line is on what is moral manipulation (say, buying her a surprise present at one extreme end... And gas-lighting her at the extreme other) ... You apply it up to there too.

relationshipdownvote · 2015-10-28T13:29:00+00:00

The red pill tastes bitter because that's the only way it works. If you could make one that worked as well without tasting as bad, it would have eclipsed TRP long ago.

Epicureanist · 2015-10-28T13:25:31+00:00

What do you mean would it still work? Do you really think red pillers get women by being hateful, talking about how much we hate women, and "manipulation"?

What are the manipulation tactics? What do you consider the top and less damaging manipulation tactics?

sternje · 2015-10-28T13:26:48+00:00

over the top manipulation tactics

What tactics are those?

wtknight · 2015-10-28T13:51:33+00:00

I think so. It would be called male confidence and depedestalization of women, and it's basically my approach to relationships. I like women, but I realize that they are just as faulty as men, and that there are some that are great and some that are awful, just like men.

UA_Hammer · 2015-10-28T16:42:46+00:00

What would happen to the red pill techniques if you removed the Hatred, Misogyny, and over the top manipulation tactics (leaving the less damaging manipulation tactics)

PUA

gregariousnefarious · 2015-10-28T19:25:21+00:00

Yeah I think so. People have this nifty way of noticing when you (even quietly) dislike them or spend your time manipulating them. At least insightful people notice. Anyway take last the hatey ranting and passive aggressive bs, then you'd have a shot with a larger percentage of women, including those intelligent enough to realize that they're not being treated respectfully

wub1234 · 2015-10-28T14:49:16+00:00

I think the basic message of self-improvement is a good one, and it should be something that we're all trying to do all of the time. Some of the other stuff I either disagree with or am more ambivalent about.

alreadyredschool · 2015-10-28T21:01:45+00:00

I barely see any misogyny or hard manipulation tactics.

I know to ignore the ramblings of a ranting youngster that let's of steam. I know to ignore the burble of a ranting incel who let's out steam. I know to ignore the ramble of a venting mgtow that let's out steam. I know to ignore the gibberish of a renting Mra who let's out steam.

There is no misogyny in the trp core material, everything we do/know is not connected to feelings, stop reading trp like a bloop, read it like a twerp.

lbspredh · 2015-10-29T19:04:08+00:00

kind of alright dating advice I guess

Title	Removing the Red from Red
Author	Niess
Upvotes	2
Comments	39
Date	October 28, 2015 1:15 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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