Submissive Women

[deleted] · 2014-03-25T21:29:05+00:00

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goatismycopilot · 2014-03-21T10:51:24+00:00

Does this not also just speak to perceptions about what a healthy relationship looks like from the differing perspectives. Red pill humans might think submissiveness is a necessity for a healthy relationship. Red pill humans and Blue pill humans might in fact differ about what submissiveness even looks like in a marital context.

Submissive sounds "boring" to you and I but the key is if red pill people match up with red pill people it doesn't really matter what we think. You're really only going to have conflict about this if a relationship starts out with one set of assumptions and then it changes. Or if people manage to marry or date one another without really having the conversations about role expectations which weirdly enough happens.

[deleted] · 2014-03-22T03:12:32+00:00

I think submissiveness in rp is just so the dudes can feel like kings due to the power.

But I'm a sub (not with twerps tho) and my relationship is all about communication My doms goals are to make me happy and vice versa but our dynamic is well he's the dominate provider but that doesn't mean he owns me or has all the power in the relationship. We communicate to make sure both people's needs and wants are met and that we're both comfortable. The sex is also awesome so.

There's a lot of different definitions for the sub dom dynamic but I think red pill dudes just want complete power over their SO.

fiat_lux_ · 2014-03-21T11:10:41+00:00

From what I've read, a lot of newer rpers seem to actually begrudge "the game". It's even clownish and exhausting to some.

I don't think it's just a preference for submissiveness, but if given a choice between dominance and submissiveness most of them would prefer the latter. Many have bad experiences with the former. To them it correlates to a lot more argument/conflict, "shit testing", and stress.

stln00b · 2014-03-21T11:51:44+00:00

First of all, I think your perception of being submissive is a bit...warped. Being submissive doesn't mean you're a doormat. It means that, within a vacuum, there are certain agreed upon rules/expected behaviors. It does not mean that I can order you to do whatever I want, whenever I want.

lokidemon731 · 2014-03-21T15:32:51+00:00

To each their own. You might not want a relationship with a submissive woman, but that doesn't make it inherently boring or wrong. I can't speak to why submissiveness is desirable to RPers because I'm not RP, but I don't see anything wrong with wanting a submissive partner. I think saying it's unnatural for women to not be submissive is a bit much, but if you want a submissive woman go find one. Why not?

SirNemesis · 2014-03-21T19:46:33+00:00

I don't think a submissive woman is necessarily preferred. Rather, the Red Pill truth is that most women are naturally submissive, but due to modern cultural conventions, many of them try to act dominant, which works out rather badly for the relationship... At the very least, it's going to result in less sex: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html

rulenumber303 · 2014-03-21T22:05:27+00:00

It takes all sorts to make a world.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2014-03-22T17:30:33+00:00

Isn't the whole point of TRP to get laid quickly and easily?

Their strategies seem to indicate that. And also they seem to be geared towards a submissive woman.

Most women I know would laugh in their face if they tried any of those things.

robesta · 2014-03-21T13:24:57+00:00

My LTR is by all external measures a dominant individual. She works in a executive position with several employees and makes six figures. In addition, she owns her own home and she's a Krav Maga instructor, all at 31 years old. Despite all these alpha traits, when she gets home from work she is truly submissive. She wants me to make decisions and treat her like a girl. I can always tell she subconsciously gets frustrated if I let her make decisions. It's almost like she's so drained from a day of acting like a "man," when she gets home all she wants to be is a young woman who pleases her man.

I didn't know this is what I wanted in a relationship, as I never had this dynamic with my ex wife or anyone else, but it's the only dynamic I want now.

I'm sure the are other high powered female execs and just plain working women out there who would love to pass the keys to their man when they get home. The problem is society has told women this is not what the "modern woman" does and had told the "modern man" that he shouldn't be a man. Consequently, there are unfulfilled women with men who don't know what they need to do to fulfill these women.

unrelated_user · 2014-03-21T14:26:36+00:00

I think you have a vision of submissive that is inaccurate. I prefer submissive women and I don't think a relationship with a submissive woman is boring in the slightest. You're likely imagining a quiet, sad little Asian girl or something.

A prefer a woman who is soft and receptive. She suggests and interjects skillfully and intelligently, but ultimately allows the man to make the decisions. It's the natural order of things.

Most women that I know who get irritated at the concept of being submissive are bitter divorce's or unhappy in a relationship. The irony is that most of them have 50 Shades of Grey on their bookshelf.

roe_ · 2014-03-21T13:43:30+00:00

Hypergamy means (among other things) that women feel attracted to a man who is above her in social status.

I'm not a Christian, but I think this is what's behind the Bible's exhortation of wives to be "submissive" to their husbands.

If the man is slightly above the woman in social status (in the marriage), it encourages her attraction to him.

NAWALT, maybe, but social dominance & leadership in a tribe is a strong indicator of genetic fitness.

BabeOfBlasphemy · 2014-03-21T23:33:56+00:00

In my experience living in the east (where women are considered subserviant by western standards), decision making depends on gender (kind of like house chores were here, men doing garbage women doing dishes, etc) in the east A man does not say what is for dinner, how His house is decorated, etc. All domestic duties are considered the woman's domain. His job is providing the money the house hold requires.

There really is no true submissiveness, ratheR both sexes relent handling to the gender that is in charge of such affairs. IF a big disagreement begins the family as a whole weighs in on it. Man may be the head but woman is the neck and is joked to turn the head how she wishes him to see...

spongegloss00 · 2014-03-23T05:10:47+00:00

Well I think it depends on what you mean by submissive. I don't think any RP guys genuinely want a woman who doesn't speak or who can't make her own decisions, as that would be really tiring and annoying for most people. But I think when they say "submissive" they just mean the opposite of the current sloppy drunk American prototype- a girl with a little bit more of a feminine side.

GridReXX · 2014-03-23T16:55:14+00:00

I think it's weird to think all women would be happy being submissive as a golden rule in their relationship, but if you want a submissive partner, go find one. Id rather that than forcing someone who isn't naturally that way to be that way.

Subgamer87 · 2014-05-20T13:08:58+00:00

I think it is key to communicate on things. It is a difficult relationship, from experience communication lack on one side or another can lead to quite a few problems. Sometimes, the game must come to halt and the situation be explored between the two on the matter. Failure to communicate can be damaging for both parties. Submission is about strength and endurance, it takes a lot to bend to the will of another. It is exceptionally difficult at sometimes but that is where trust comes in and the believe in ones Dom/Master. Submission is something more than just meets the eye, you have to pull back the layers to examine what is underneath.

suscitare · 2014-03-21T12:34:41+00:00

Trouble is that lots of women like to be difficult just for the sake of it; women always try fuck men around with stupid tests.

Title	Submissive Women
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Date	March 21, 2014 10:27 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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