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Whats with this 'warrior' thing?

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September 25, 2019
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Is this some new RP meme getting spread? -- people in posts saying they "are a warrior" and 'were born as warriors but beta brainwashing has made them forget' -?

Seems to be seriously deluded and fucking hilarious, men jumping in their car dressed up going to the supermarket "Ya but really i'm a dragonslayer warrior behind my cultural programming dude"
even the most alpha you can think is not - A warrior.

The last thing we need more of are womanly here me roar BS fantasies.


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Title Whats with this 'warrior' thing?
Author masterpiece00
Upvotes 109
Comments 112
Date 25 September 2019 05:06 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/287689
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/d8yox2/whats_with_this_warrior_thing/
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[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil137 points138 points  (60 children) | Copy

Beta males like to LARP it makes them feel masculine. Yes the original idea of the Red Pill was to get them to stop LARPing.

However they never stoped LARPING. Whenever you call them out on LARPing as James Bond, they'll start LARPing as Entrepreneurs and then after that a warriors.

The only solution is to demand the posting of gains because gains can't be Larped. Once you have them cornered you can expect extreme mental gymnastics as to why lifting is the first rule of trp yet they look like shit.

[–]novalentineforyou31 points32 points  (17 children) | Copy

How do we fix the obsession on Reddit with the appearance of masculinity? Every time I read trp it's full of guys obsessed with labelling everything as "masculine" or "feminine" so they can make themselves feel better even if it makes no sense whatsoever and has no utility. I swear to God I've read some dumbass say that dancing is feminine, even though dancing makes you far more likely to fuck women. How do we fix this fetish and coping mechanism that a lot of these guys have?

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper29 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy

They are not obsessed with the appearance of masculinity, they are obsessed with appearances in general. Whenever something is made to appear "cool" to them, they do not ask themselves "how can I be this?", much less "how can I be cool in my own, self-invented way?".

They ask "how can I look like that?".

They are, in essence, hipsters. A hipster is someone who adapts the superficial aspects of a subculture that has positive social status, but avoid any trait of that subculture which requires actual work, suffering, or sacrifice.

A hipster will grow a beard and a stupid looking waxed mustache, cover himself in ugly tattoos, and dress like a lumberjack, but he won't lift, because muscle is hard to build and can't be faked.

A hipster will describe himself as nerdy and geeky, learn star wars trivia, and play role-playing games, but he won't learn to code, because technical skills are hard to learn and can't be faked.

A hipster will buy a bunch of mall ninja shit, describe himself as a "warrior", and tell everybody he's a veteran when he actually spent four years as a supply clerk in Twenty-Nine Palms, but he won't train in Muay Thai or spend countless hours lying belly-down in wet mud learning to shoot 1 MOA.

A hipster will major in philosophy, talk about how smart he is, quote endlessly from dusty books by Nietzsche or Foucault or Rand (depending on his political preference), but never, never, never write anything that contains an original thought.

A hipster will listen to obscure bands, collect music on vinyl, pride himself on being into shit you and I have never heard of, but he will never learn to play the guitar and compose his own music.

You ask "how do we fix this?".

The answer is, "we don't". They have to fix themselves. What we do is mock them until they do. And kick them out of TRP if they try to teach others.

[–]askmrcia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are, in essence, hipsters. A hipster is someone who adapts the superficial aspects of a subculture that has positive social status, but avoid any trait of that subculture which requires actual work, suffering, or sacrifice.

Saving this quote and the rest of your comment as this was the best description I ever heard for hipster.

[–]ArabSigma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This. I came to a similar conclusion myself. In its most crude form, it boils down to being a "consumer" vs being a "producer" of value. Consuming is passive whereas producing requires effort, even when producing something that has little value.

The problem is that it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking we're being productive when in reality, we're merely consuming. This can lead to diseases like analysis paralysis and false confidence. You can watch countless videos about boxing but unless you apply the teachings physically, you aren't really a boxer. You can read blog posts about algorithms and design patterns but you can't call yourself a programmer if you never write a line of code. You can mimic a lumberjack's appearance but you'll never be a lumberjack unless you cut down trees.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hipsters are pretty good at sanding wooden spoons.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

They're obsessed not with masculinity but binary spreadsheet sperg lord thinking.

The ironic solution is to tell them to get on the spectrum

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/a7cvjr/the_virgin_binary_vs_the_chad_spectrum

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K188 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never seen that post. That's some good shit right there. Game is such an understanding of the grey area.

[–]L3onard31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes...be analog. Not digital.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't. It weeds out and solidifies the top 20 percent of males.

We give access to the sidebar with a host of information to learn. They will have to put in the time and effort.

[–]still_unresolved-8 points-7 points  (6 children) | Copy

But dancing is feminine

[–]notpahimar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fine then, don't do it. Not our problem.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

And martial arts are masculine, but there are plenty of girls in karate class

[–]still_unresolved-10 points-9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Girls ? Those are transgenders

[–]TRPCops[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh shit, they can't help themselves

[–]Standgrounding2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really nigga?

[–]novalentineforyou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for leaving more women for the rest of us

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime14 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy

Lifting is the benchmark of action, you can't bullshit yourself or anyone else about it, you're either doing it or you're not.

Those that aren't lifting are generally the ones who rationalize and make excuses about everything. Those that are lifting are generally the ones who take action and making changes.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Sometimes those lifting get stuck in limbo with little to no gains.

[–]RedEcstasy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

By the time someone gets stuck with no gains, he would be already in decent shape. I don't think the kind of man he was referring to is in any form of decent shape.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

IF they are doing it correctly in the first place. I've seen lots of bros spend countless hours with bench press, bicep curls and abs with little to no results. Those that do end up with giant rolled over shoulders with no back muscles.

[–]FinallyRed0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I think there is biology/physiology involved in that. I see guys lifting with garbage form, violating all the principles who are significantly stronger than me. I've made very slow gains starting from a pretty low place. At the moment I'm cutting, and I got rid of vegetable oil from my diet. Since that specifically I am making strength gains that rival or exceeded what I ever managed while bulking (and I was cutting before that with basically stagnant strength as you would expect on a cut). We'll see what comes when I increase the calories but I'm excited. All I know for sure is that vegetable oil even in small amounts are fucking horrible for you. Maybe they affect some worse than others. Some people maybe have to go further to optimize their inputs to see gains others get from mcdonalds and a bro routine. The moral though is there's no excuses.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

[–]FinallyRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's not it. I go close to if not to failure by the end of every exercise (excluding legs but theyre shaky af at the end of the workout). The progressive overload is just slow going

[–]send_it_for_the_boys5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

A guy I know the other day kept trying to AMOG me and I was blasting through that shit and he kept mocking me and flexing and saying I’m “me” I have this problem that’s called TEstOstErONee. A strange backwards world we live in indeed.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

After being on TRT I believe that the problem with most guys is "low testosterone." A lot of insecurity and jealousy while putting others down.

[–]genital-love11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is why pics or gtfo is an internet rule for anybody that cares

[–]Gr33d3ater3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m sorry but what the fuck is a larp

[–]ahillbilly974 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

What’s larp?

[–]758IX5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Live Action Role Play

[–]Monitorul8 points9 points  (11 children) | Copy

Lifting has almost nothing to do with being a warrior though. A skinny durka with a rifle or even a knife can take you down no matter how much you can deadlift. And lifting weights by itself doesn't make you a warrior either.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's the journey that makes the man.

Plus it's harder to kill someone stronger.

[–]novalentineforyou9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

Elite soldiers are some of the fittest people in the world with respect to both strength AND endurance. You can't be an elite warrior without being very strong, very fast, and very durable. Look up the entrance requirements for the Navy SEALs if you disagree with me.

[–]Monitorul7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

That doesn't describe your average gymbro wannabe bodybuilder though. It's like saying you work for Google because you can program.

do 42 push-ups in under two minutes, followed by a two-minute rest; do 50 sit-ups in under two minutes, followed by a two-minute rest; do six pull-ups, followed by a 10-minute rest; run 1.5 miles in boots and long pants in less than 11.5 minutes

TIL I'm navy seal material

[–]Bravofoxtrot6696 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

You'll never be a frogman by doing the bare minimum.

[–]Garathon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, you're not, don't delude yourself.

[–]novalentineforyou1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The more accurate bare minimum for speed and endurance is being able to run 4 miles at a pace of at most 7:00, preferably 6:00. You also have to be able to squat, deadlift, and bench press some multiple of your bodyweight.

[–]lampshade28181 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am thankful I have never encountered somebody who called them self, a Warrior. No doubt Navy SEALs are bad ass, but that regimen does not sound too grueling. On Fridays my office caters lunch, then after we have a pushup contest in the kitchen, just for fun, to get the biggest number. We have guys doing 50-60 in a row. Some of the women get 30.

Granted, I have never run in boots and long pants. I would just look like a crazy person in my neighborhood.

[–]Ant1matter87 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Meatheads are amusing.

It is not hard to get those numbers and that is never the poiint, what you must understand is that during hell week training you will sleep 3-4 hours in a week and perform physical exercises for 24/7, running hundreds of miles, doing hundreds of pushups, sit ups etc , being throw into cold water where you lay for 15-20 minutes freezing.

You must be in peak physical shape but that's not really all, 90% mental, those people are mentally tough, they will die before they quit.

It's really cute you know people who can do 50 pushups in a row, it's really adorable.

[–]Captain_Quick 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

There has to be more to it than that. What about swimming?

[–]Monitorul0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I left that part out since I'm not a good swimmer but what I listed are apparently real requirements (that I copied from some website, take with a grain of salt)

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea yea yea, thing is is not all of us have this tactical training, or are in the military etc. but every one of us can easily get in the gym or get a solid workout at home. I don’t give a flying fuck if somebody can lift more than me or kick my ass, but I walk past a reflection of myself in a window and I think hell yeah I look fuckin great and I worked hard for this!

[–]flying-backflip1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The LARPing is real. I know a guy who is extremely insecure but also has a big ego. No surprise he's into camo/tactical gear, hunting, and anything masculine. He's the kind of guy that will wear a plate carrier in the gym while doing cardio. Hes not in the military.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Data!

[–]actually-guy 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy

Damn man, this comment is really bad. You should try being "for" things, instead of against. Trying to tear down your brother like this is small and petty. How is this helpful or productive? What's next, kicking sand in their face? Do you have any constructive advice other than lifting - which is just hours per week. What about the rest of the time.

With your flair on this sub, fucking do better.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

Virtue signal somewhere else triggered faggot. My submitted history is filled with constructive advice.

The only people who could be offended are LARPY beta males because that's exactly who the comment targets.

[–]actually-guy 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Things that are not beta male activities:

  • Trying (and maybe failing) to start a business.
  • Trying to learn a martial art.
  • Trying to be better.

Things that ARE beta male activities:

  • Trying to tear down other males around me because I'm insecure! - You
  • Making fun of people who are trying, because I'm a failure. - You
  • Trying to brag to others about my status, because it's the only thing that gives me value. - You

You come of as a weak, insecure cuck. If you are so wise and constructive - maybe start using your powers for good and stop being a degenerate.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh look a beta male who wants participation points for trying. You want me to accept you and love you unconditionally and give you a big hug ❤️. Awwww

Guis guis a ReEl Alpha is nice to peeepol he doesn't bully guis like me!

[–]TRPCops[M] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Report reason: "it's rude, vulgar, or offensive"

It appears someone was upset.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

What better way to prove my diagnosis...

[–]EvelynnSpoiler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing wrong with larping my dude

[–]PIGamer860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Your physique is a reflection of your discipline. It cannot be purchased nor negotiated. It's a direct and immediate reflection of your dedication to the improvement of your self."

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

they'll start LARPing as Entrepreneurs

Yeah, supposedly 50% of the main sub started their own e-commerce site (which they describe in the vaguest of ways of course) and now live off of the passive income. I see it in almost every thread it's absurd.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Did you know everyone on reddit somehow makes six figures, despite median income for men 20 to 24 years is $615 weekly/$31,980 annually and 25 to 34 years is $893 weekly/$46,436 annually

Magical huh

[–]SalporinRP5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

We should start forcing unendorsed posters to verify.

If you give lifting advice you have to take a shirtless selfie.

If you give financial advice you have to post a screenshot of your bank statement lol.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The morons, larps, and other vermin self identify with their awful posting.

Only morons can't spot a moron giving them advice. It's internet natural selection

[–]Scorch6-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think you have thoroughly missed the point of this subreddit, if you think lifting is even close to the most important aspect of redpill.

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It is tho, at least for starters

1) it feelz good

2) it gives purpose and a goal to pursue

3) gainz bitch - you'll be able to flex on almost everyone

4) confidence

5) discipline

6) you get more attention from girlz

shall i say more?

[–]HangsHeKing-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a sub about running game on women. Not weightlifting. Fitness is an important piece, for sure, but it’s only one part of the puzzle. If that’s all you focus on then you’re going to be really confused and frustrated when you see all the ugly, short, skinnyfat, and broke dudes who are pulling women out there.

[–]ZeppKfw34 points35 points  (11 children) | Copy

You're taking it literally. It means that society emasculates us whilst we're growing up and having masculine behaviors i.e (Fighting, risk taking, confidence) is punished and vice versa with feminine behaviors. Western men are stripped from their masculinity is what they're saying.

[–]VaN__Darkholme15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even Eastern societies are not thay far off

[–]HangsHeKing16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

The way you put it sounds pretty gay, but the general idea that modern society restricts men from becoming what they are supposed to be is true. The warrior aspect of masculinity that represents aggression, stoicism, discipline, courage, decisiveness, etc is the most repressed by the modern world. Today society wants us men to be docile, confused consumers controlled by our emotions and ashamed of our own existence. All while limiting our warrior energy to fantasy realms like sports or videogames. Of course there is more to being a man than being a warrior, but It’s good for a man to embody some amount of that energy. Obviously dressing up like Master Chief irl isn’t what I’m talking about.

[–]dsgk_993 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

*takes off helmet

Damn

[–]Standgrounding-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Military service won't limit your warrior potential though

[–]thisornothing13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

It likely just came from mythological archetypes. There’s a fairly decent book that examines masculine archetypes in literature, and why/how they’re useful to consider - “King, Warrior, Magician, Lover”.

I doubt the people parroting “we are warriors” are doing so in direct reference to mythological archetypes though, but it’s likely where it came from I’d guess.

[–]Standgrounding-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wannabe soldiers, that is. They want to serve in the military without the effort involved

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look up Ernst Junger(the most decorated soldier of WW1), particularly in his youth, read his Storm of Steel. Read about young Napoleon, his memoirs. Then come back and tell me how much you deadlift or how many numbers you got last night.

People saying they are warriors or alphas only proves the opposite. Often these guys want to be seen in a particular way, they use social media to project an image and convince themselves that they are masculine enough(the irony) . But it only has short term effect until they face real life when an effemenate politician has more real power than a warrior with a six pack and 10k followers on IG.

It's about having direction and principles, aka FRAME.

[–]mickey__4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't you know incels and mgtow subs are banned, everything makes sense, they are here

[–]BombasticBobby2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Seems to be seriously deluded and fucking hilarious" How old are you?

[–]Bear-With-Bit4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

But I really am a warrior. I battle every day to get to Planet Fitness.

[–]poopdeck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I battle all the made up mental illnesses and demand 100$ an hour minimum wage i'm so warrior bros

[–]dsgk_990 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah dude, gotta love the free bagels and pizza

[–]InflatableRaft14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

We wuz kangz!

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Warrrriooorrrsssss, come out to plaaayyyaaaayyyy!!!!!

What a great film.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

"Warrior" doesn't mean "badass". It literally means someone who fights a war.

Most of them aren't badasses. They are lemmings, they are too stupid, untalented, naive, or just plain unlucky to avoid being used as a blunt instrument for someone else's cause. And they die like sheep, or come home broken and can't get fixed.

Moreover, fighting wars doesn't even make you a badass. It just tests if you already are.

Think about it. Think about this example:

I am an engineer. I've been an engineer for sixteen fucking years. Five days a week. If that makes you think I must be pretty good at engineering, you'd be wrong... I'm fucking amazing at engineering.

But why was I able to do it five days a week for sixteen years? Because engineering, as an activity, carries a 0.0% percent chance of fucking dying, that's why. If you fought in armed conflicts five days a week, eight hours a day, for sixteen years, you'd be... well, dead. So people who fight, actually fight, haven't fought enough to learn all that much from the actual fighting. There wasn't enough of it. If there was, they would eventually have gotten unlucky, and be dead now.

No, if they can do badass shit, it's because they fucking trained. The only thing anyone ever learned from fighting for his life is "here is some shit that I saw that I should probably incorporate into my training if I am lucky enough to live through today".

So don't call yourself a warrior, because you aren't one. And don't go become one, because they are disposable and get the shit end of life. Instead, if you admire the things about them that are positive, seek out training and learn those things.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

One could argue that giving yourself any sort of subjective title is stupid. Sure, calling yourself a "Doctor of Medicine" might make sense because there is a well-defined criterion that you must satisfy to earn that title, but it is simply shorthand for "satisfied XYZ requirement"; no more, no less.

But when you use subjective names like "warrior", "expert" and -- dare I say it -- "engineer", because there is no universal agreement on what these titles indicate in a modern context, you aren't conveying any useful information. Telling me you are a "warrior" in 2019 only conveys that you watch too many action flicks and/or suffer from some sort of mild autism.

It's kind of similar to the alpha/beta dichotomy that the spergs can't seem to get past here in TRP, and the EC tags the mods give out. You, Whisper, are not an authority because you have a "Vanguard" tag next to your name. Rather, your authority is derived from the same place that the tag itself is: a continuous history of providing good, actionable advice.

If I may pontificate, this societal fixation with titles stems from academia where status trumps all. Where a self-proclaimed "expert" is considered an authority on a subject because he has lots of letters after his name. Where we do not make a distinction between the "intellectual" and the person of intellectual achievement.

It is unfortunate that this fixation also extends to the way most people view the US government. Because I am getting way off topic I'm not going to flesh this last bit out here, but I am confident you know what I am driving at.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

A brilliant, brilliant human being. Did anyone call him an intellectual merely because he was one of the most brilliant people in the United States? No. When did he become an intellectual? When he finally spoke out concerning something he knew absolutely nothing about: the war in Vietnam. When he denounced the war in Vietnam, Chomsky put on the requisite display of utter ignorance and thereby became a leading American intellectual.

I like this guy.

An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out only in others.

This describe their typical habits, but doesn't actually define them. I prefer Thomas Sowell's definition:

An intellectual is someone whose work product is ideas.

although I would expand it to say that the intellectual is one whose work product is the generation and proselytization of ideas. An intellectual doesn't merely have ideas, he seeks to persuade others of them.

But what he doesn't do is test them, the way an engineer or scientist would. The intellectual can be rational, he can be logical, but he is never empirical. And empiricism, not logic, is the engine of truth.

Western intellectuals have forgotten (often on purpose) that the role of the intellectual is to start conversations, not finish them. To point out possibilities and viewpoints, not truths. Intellectuals in the west have long envied the scientist and the engineer, because of the high esteem that they are held in compared to other cultures (especially in America; less so now in Europe). But the intellectual cannot adopt empirical methods without changing disciplines, and thus they have chosen to attempt to usurp the throne of truth by denigrating empiricism itself.

It is empiricism that is the fundamental and defining value of western civilization. It was the replacement of religious dogma with empirical investigation that led to what we now call the Age of Enlightenment, before which western civilization wasn't a thing, or at least not one worth mentioning.

Philosophers who replace empiricism with pure logic (often from faulty premises), and intellectuals who replace both with rhetoric and postmodern discourse are undermining the very things that made the west such a great, powerful, and wealthy civilization that they could actually chose to sit around coming up with abstract ideas all day and still get fed by others.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Philosophers who replace empiricism with pure logic (often from faulty premises), and intellectuals who replace both with rhetoric and postmodern discourse are undermining the very things that made the west such a great, powerful, and wealthy civilization that they could actually chose to sit around coming up with abstract ideas all day and still get fed by others.

I don't disagree, but I suggest that the situation is even worse than you describe.

Centuries ago the United States was established on philosophical principles of good government, which was embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. As personal peace and prosperity have become more important than principles of good government, these principles have been manipulated and redefined to suit the whims of those who are in power. Government has become less and less sensitive to civil rights, while it has become easy for various political and financial interests to manipulate our leaders to their advantage.

Since people have largely ceased to challenge each other in what they believe, accepting instead the idea that whatever you want to believe is okay, regardless of empirical evidence, the government can no longer get people to obey the law because everyone believes in a certain set of principles upon which the law is founded.

Thus, government must coerce people into obeying it with increasingly harsh penalties for disobedience -- penalties which often fly in the face of long established civil rights. Furthermore, the government must restrict the average man's ability to seek recourse.

For example, it is very common for the government to trample all over long standing constitutional rights when enforcing the tax code. The IRS routinely forces hundreds of thousands of people to testify against themselves. It routinely puts the burden of proof on the accused, seizes his assets without trial, etc. The bottom line is that it is not expedient for the government to collect money from its citizens if it has to prove their tax documents wrong. The whole system would break down in a massive overload. Economically speaking, it is just better to put the burden of proof on the citizen, Bill of Rights or no.

Likewise, to challenge the government on a question of rights is practically impossible, unless your case happens to serve the purposes of some powerful special interest group. In a standard courtroom, one often cannot even bring up the subject of constitutional rights. The only question to be argued is whether or not some particular law was broken. To appeal to the Supreme Court will cost millions, if the politically motivated justices will even condescend to hear the case. So the government becomes practically all-powerful, God walking on earth, to the common man.

Never mind that the Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of the press. Never mind that it guarantees citizens the right to bear military arms.

One man seems to have little recourse but to blindly obey those in power.

[–]FightGuard0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You say that the obsession with titles comes from acediemia where status trumps all, but surely it predates acedemia? Its human nature to submit to induvisualism with greater status no?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What's changed is where that status derives from.

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When the Sgt gets his red sash, it comes with blown out knees.

People only love the idea of a warrior because they've never done the work. Just like city folk loved to come to the ranch once a year and brand cattle before chasing them up the mountain. They only thought it was fun because they hadn't been doing it since they were fucking 5 years old.

Plus, I gotta go with Whisper on this one. I actually did sign up, and they did send me on deployment, and I would never even think to call myself a warrior. none of my army buddies would either.

We mostly made up jobs, golf pro or accountant.

[–]ibetrynaimprove6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

How I see it... men are supposed to be warriors.

If you're not a warrior, what are you? The tribe slut getting gang-banged by her brothers and uncles?

[–]Monitorul2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

A serf, just like everyone else for all of history. Now get back to your indentured servitude.

[–]Cods_gift_to_reddit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're not a warrior, what are you?

There are plenty of parts you can play instead of warrior.

[–]calmbuddhist4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Why not be a dude with a IT/Banking job, with a house, and an ability to procure a handful of 9s/10s as tinder matches whenever you want.
What is this katy perry "warrior" BS? Why are you so concerned of what you're supposed to be.
Just chill and stop talking like an incel mate.

[–]loophole2921 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Man that sounds boring and realist as fuck. Just let me pretend to be a Viking while I lift and shit, damn.

[–]Vikingcel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Skål. Jeg har en jordbær.

[–]ibetrynaimprove2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's actually lowballing it for me. Anyway, I was referring to being warrior in spirit - not whispering to yourself you're a warrior before fighting off the local school with a loaded arm

[–]Cods_gift_to_reddit3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's trying to figure out his social role

[–]Aymane221-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Be an it cuck when the real Warrior is getting stronger and faster by any means neccesry. For himself and for the tribe

[–]Sqtlol1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem is that most of the material posted here nowadays is drawn to extremes, and a lot of people here take these extremes VERY literal. You read about how a womans biological instinct pulls her towards the leader of the tribe, how you need to be a strong warrior caveman etc, but what most people fail to interpret is the modern spectrum of being «the strongest caveman»

High SMV, income, status, game, confidence and abundance mentality are all examples of modern societies way of filtering males. Being Redpilled does not mean you have to shout the loudest, being able to strangle just about anyone with your bare hands or any of that nonsense - it is about being in charge of yourself and always continuing to improve oneself.

Take a fictional character for example: Hank Moody from Californication. For some considered the living embodiment of an alpha male.

Hank Moody isn’t a «warrior». Hank Moody would probably be dead within the week in any given cavemen tribe. Hank Moody isn’t physically intimidating, nor does he try to be.

What traits Hank Moody possesses: - Assertive (in his own ways, albeit) - Confident - IDGAF attitude, doesn’t care about anyone elses opinions/does his own thing. - Has charm/game - Abundance mentality - Status

[–]_thechinaman_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that's super gay. I mean do they even carry a sword everywhere like me, a real blood warrior who has been castrated by modernity? How many Confederate scalps did they take in their past life as a native American? Or how many miles did they row on their Viking vessels? Bunch a fuckin amateurs.

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Meh, men are pretty beaten down these days. I don't think male empowerment messages are a bad thing. If that mindset helps them in life, then it is a good mindset, if it doesn't, then it doesn't.

I've not seen this phenomenon myself (on the internet), but I play sports in real life, and in the locker room we go 'Be better, you're a fucking warrior, start acting like it." I mean when I'm coaching I yell that at my players too. Am I indulging in fantasy? Seems like normal motivational tactics to me.

[–]Standgrounding1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tip: Wanna be a warrior? Join an army or navy.

It's that simple...

[–]sebastianconcept3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If there is a Gender War going on, then there are either warriors or prisoners.

[–]exscionewhuman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Beta, alpha, blah blah, back someone into a corner... back any living thing into a corner... well life do what it do. Warrior is not some new made up idea. We are here from all those times people got backed into a corner.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Haven't come across this yet. Sounds like mystical internet BS though.

[–]dgd_mobius_centurion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is not uncommon for many circles to compare their struggle to that of a warrior. In Christianity, we are told to "put on the full armor of God." Not literally, but building resilience to whatever comes at your life.

[–]YouWannaPutMoneyOnIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is the warrior king not the archetype we’re all after? It’s not that far off. Read the koans and scriptures the samurai would read and you probably wouldn’t even be in this sub lol

[–]aWorldBornDead0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They saw that episode of Banshee where that guy goes "I am a warrior."

[–]genital-love0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

prolly something they saw on youtube, dw ab it

[–]Ohboohoolittlegirl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Guys trying to convince themselves they are more masculine than they are and trying to play a victim card of society. Ignore people stretching and reaching for such things. Easier to blame someone else than taking your responsibility

[–]Couer_De_Lion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Big overlap with what used to be the “alt right”, the current trend in those circles is a kind of return to the land steppe warrior cult like ethos, basically get big and bully nerds.

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My second favorite Red Pill saying, after "Spinning plates is a rational response to open hypergamy" is "Women don't care about the struggle, they hang out at the finish line and fuck the winners."

Sport is ritualized combat. That's really obvious in combat sports, very obvious in football....and very obvious in non-contact modes, like chess (not that chess is a sport, let's not get too pedantic).

A warrior mentality is a winning mentality. Done correctly, anyway.

The shit about lifting and TRP is endlessly annoying. If an average frustrated chump lifts enough to get to college athlete level, he's going to be way more capable of fighting, and way more attractive to women.



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