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Skin Care

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December 17, 2019

Hello faggots. As I get older (36) I realize we need to take care of our faces as they take abuse. What do you older guys do for a skin care routine. All I ever have done is moisturize my face after I shower or shave with a beard oil/lotion.

I started to notice dark circles and bags under my eyes. It seems most of the billion brands of skin care products are bullshit out there so I was wondering what you guys use that works.

Obviously staying hydrated, getting adequate sleep and avoiding alcohol helps.

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Title Skin Care
Author WolfofAllStreetz
Upvotes 11
Comments 67
Date 17 December 2019 01:56 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando26 points27 points  (29 children) | Copy

Wash your face every morning with a face wash that's suitable for your skin type. Doesn't need to be expensive, pretty much any brand will do.

Apply a face serum - the best you can afford. Cheap shit ain't worth it. Anthony High Performance Anti-Wrinkle Glycolic Peptide Serum is great. Serums are often overlooked and underated but they are by far the best thing you can use on your skin.

Apply a moisturiser generously. Bulldog is pretty good for the price. Most mid-range moisturisers will do the trick.

Apply eye cream - best you can afford. Keihl, Clarins, Lab Series. All good.

Apply an SPF moisturiser - again, best you can afford. Lab Series is my go-to.. I use one with a tint to add a bit of colour to my face.

In the evenings, wash again with a face wash and apply a large dose of daily moisturiser.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

As usual a great post. This is what I was looking for.

Going to need a HELOC to afford all this dumb shit lol.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

It shouldn't cost you the earth - the serums and SPFs are expensive but if you use them once a day and sparingly, they last a long time.. I go through around 2 containers of each per year, which costs about 500 euro.

The daily moisturisers and washes I buy in bulk when they are on sale at less than 10 euro each. I reckon I spend about 50 euro a month on products. Well worth it.

[–]hack3geRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man my skincare game is shit apparently - I mean half the time I have a black eye or busted face so there’s that.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just grabbed all 3 of those, thanks

[–]Cam_Winston210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

/u/SBIII, I have psoriasis* so my moisturizing game generally has to be on point. I already buy goat's milk hand soaps, generally tallow-based shaving soaps with essential oils, after shaves with oils/witch hazel and apply body butter or lotion continually. However, if the eye serum would make a discernable difference, I'll gladly plunk down the $$ for even more improvement.

Would you suggest that on top of my current routine or would it be a waste of money for what would amount to a rounding error since I'm already applying stuff rather consistently?

( *99% taken care of via diet/fasting/moisturizing)

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely helps - I've used them for 10+ years and never get dark circles. I also get 7 hours uninterrupted sleep every night.

[–]RedPillGlasses2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Does any of that specifically help the dark circles?

Tanning is actually the only thing that DOES help my dark circles (even if just by proxy)

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

All of it helps - a quality eye serum will do wonders but none of this will be very effective if you're not getting enough quality sleep.

[–]maxofreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

none of this will be very effective if you're not getting enough quality sleep.

Been realizing this more and more lately

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

According to reviews, that lab series cream helps a lot.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The tinted one is the dog's bollox. These guys do great products too.

[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Kiehls Avocado Eye Cream.

[–]bigkids1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What’s a serum and why use it daily?

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]alphabachelor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This and don't forget the sunscreen.

I use Neutrogena Ultrasheer Dry Touch SPF 60.

[–]HeckleandChide0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great post. Can’t overemphasize the importance of high quality sunscreen on your face, neck, and hands.

[–]awyden0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Anthony High Performance Anti-Wrinkle Glycolic Peptide Serum

How long does a bottle of Anthony High Performance Anti-Wrinkle Glycolic Peptide Serum last? Price is steep.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

3-4 months

[–]tap09885340 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm skeptical that expensive makes it better. Most stuff that is known to actually work can be found in inexpensive products also see r/skincareaddiction

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The key to that sentence is 'most stuff'. Cheap daily moisturisers and face washes that you lob on, yeah - but serums, concealers, tinted moisturisers - most of the cheap ones aren't nearly as good as the more expensive counterparts.

Where the price / value benefit doesn't stack up is when you go for designer brands over brands that are skincare specialists.

[–]teaandtalk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. I mostly use The Ordinary products - high efficacy, low filler content.

[–]ObjectionTrue8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Coconut oil after shower and shaving on face, scalp and hair, but most importantly eat a low carb, no sugar diet with plenty of good fats. The diet has reversed a lot of skin problems that come with age (56), such as flaking, dryness, etc.

[–]athrowaway-90012 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Diet is a big part of the health of your skin and hair.

Also taking cold showers too; in addition to so many benefits that it provides.

[–]maxofreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hmmm.... maybe I haven't given my diet enough credit for my sometimes flakey scalp... will look into.. thanks ;)

[–]mrpthrowa8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I believe in taking care of myself, in a balanced diet, in a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the icepack, I use a deep pore-cleanser lotion. In the shower, I use a water-activated gel cleanser, then a honey-almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb mint facial masque which I leave on for ten minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after-shave lotion with little or no alcohol because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm, followed by a final moisturizing "protective" lotion... There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, hut there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping you and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One if not the greatest movies of all time.

[–]RStonePT6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Well, my metrosexual habits finally have their day!

First off, the best time to look good by 40 is to start when you're 20. The fact you waited till 36 means you're already behind the 8-ball.

  1. A lot of facial youth is due to collagen in the facial skin. This largely degrades over time, and cannot be helped. Genetics are a factor, as is thickness.

  2. exfoliating keep your face from looking like a dry riverbed. Funny thing, daily shaving exfoliates better than most anything else. But a face scouring pad (axe has those tire shaped luffas that come with their bodywash) once a week is always good

  3. dehydration is not your friend. Keep drinking water, throw some lotion on when it's cold and the weather sucks it out of your face

  4. Whats not your friend? the sun. Stop sun tanning all damned day. sun screen, wear hats when sailing, and stay out of tanning beds.

  5. extreme cuts remove fat in your face, especially the intra muscle fat. Over time, excessive cutting cycles will age you faster. Then again, being a fat fuck makes one look old too, so figure a system out

Your dark circles are from dehydration and lack of sleep btw, also that you're a dark skinned dude, so it's what happens. I know you want a magic pill, but you need to sort your lifestyle out or accept looking like Palpatine

[–]Over60_FireTempered3Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

  1. extreme cuts remove fat in your face, especially the intra muscle fat. Over time, excessive cutting cycles will age you faster. Then again, being a fat fuck makes one look old too, so figure a system out

I can verify this, due my ageistic experience.

I got down to about 15% BF and looked at least 20 years older, ugh!

Then I put on 8-10 pounds(US). I look better and feel better. Even less pain from Hapkido. Nice chiseled jaw, without looking like a gaunt old man.

If I gain more than that, I look worse, and older. It is a matter of hitting a happy medium that works for my age. YMMV

[–]Cam_Winston210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Funny thing, daily shaving exfoliates better than most anything else. But a face scouring pad (axe has those tire shaped luffas that come with their bodywash) once a week is always good

If daily shaving (if so, ditch the cartridge, go double-edge safety razor and save $$$), witch Hazel or an after shave with witch hazel. Nature's astringent.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I should have specified. Safety razors are the best. And I stick with a plain ol alum bar for the astringent.

[–]markpf730 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Couple of additional hacks after the obvious for keeping your face youthful:

1) topical vitamin c serum topical application 2) hyaluronic acid topical application 3) copper peptide topical application 4) red/orange LED light photobiomodulation therapy 5) infrared sauna 6) hyaluronic acid pills

All of these have some benefit to either preventing collagen breakdown, encouraging increases in collagen production, and moisturizing from the outside in or the inside out.

Do some research and see what you think gives you the biggest bang for your buck.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

collagen is underneath the dermal layer. Do any of these lotions get past the skin?

[–]markpf731 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Vitamin c serum does:

Copper peptide yes - crosses.

Hyaluronic acid topical is for hydration and appearance.

Hyaluronic acid pill form is a systemic application - not just skin moisturizer but joint support as well (fairly cheap - jarrow brand on Amazon is only $15 for 120 capsules) - works well at minimizes my shoulder, hip, and knee aches.

Infrared and medical grade red/orange light photobiomodulation absolutely. Peer reviewed published journal articles.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Figured I could get a response from an old dude like SBIII here

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hey - fuck you, I'm only 46. Call me old again and I'll throw my walking frame at your head.

[–]Over60_FireTempered3Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're Old.

And I'll take the walking frame, thanks.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is all I use. You do need to do something, but I have a hard time having a routine for my face that is more involved than my wife's. Just clean your face and then use something like this. There are others, but I like this one because it barely smells like anything, it is affordable, is easy to find, and checks the major boxes for stuff you should be applying to your face to protect it. I only want my cologne to be fragrant, not a billion scents from deodorants, lotions, hair products, etc. This is pretty much odorless with maybe a hint of sunscreen smell to it. Keep it simple. You have more important things to do.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Seems like something you could’ve googled but I’m flattered you’d like to know what I do:

1) avoid sugar. 2) exercise regularly (lifting and cardiovascular work). 3) diet diet diet. 4) manage stress. 5) take omega 3, 6’s, black currant oil, sunflower seed oil, coconut oil. (I don’t do all of these all the time, but I have tried them all at one point) 6) I use argan oil on my beard, face and hair regularly. 7) sun block. 8) avoid alcohol, at least chronic use. When I was a drunk ten years ago my skin looked like shit and I looked aged. This really was a big one for me. 9) don’t be fat. 10) if you’re fat, lose weight.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Thanks for this reply, I’ll post more when I can later. I’m not fat I’m 510 180 been lifting for 15 years or so but my joints can no longer take heavy work.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How old are you? TRT? I’m 6’2” 210, 34 years old. I know the joint issues.. Had elbow neuropathy for a long time from rope climbing. I really couldn’t sleep because my left arm would fall asleep and swell. It was fucked up. Anyway..

Started low dose deca @ 125mg a week and haven’t looked back. Joints are good.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, 100mg a week but its not enough but doc wont prescribe more since im in range now. My SHBG is shit so that doesn’t help.

[–]JoeBuckYourslf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s the unfortunate thing with TRT. A lot of PCPs and general practitioners don’t have a lot of experience in that area. Say versus an endo. I mean some so, but a lot don’t.

They treat the numbers instead of the patient. It’s sad. (I work in the field kinda)... anyway.

Look around for a new doctor. There’s more that do TRT/HRT now more than ever these days.

[–]LatchNessMonster1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Calls everyone a faggot then asks for advice on skin care lmao I’m sorry but this amuses me

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ironic ain’t it

[–]mrpmonk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Audacity level= red pill.

[–]beta_game1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

All the other advice, if you can afford it HGH or injectable peptides (ipamorelin, cjc etc.)

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Already run TRT

[–]beta_game1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not talking about TRT, talking about repairing aging skin

[–]helaughsinhidden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Clinique for Men is good to me

[–]bliceroquququq0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

All your buddies will give you crap, but slather yourself in sunscreen when you’re doing outdoor shit. Two of my fishing pals have had melanoma, I’ve had basal cell carcinoma (at 36), and my friends that did tanning beds regularly now all have faces that look like footballs.

[–]WesternhagenWinner1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your buddies are just testing your frame, as they should.

I've known since childhood that I'm a pale Celt. I don't tan, ever. I burn easily. I always use plenty of sunblock, I wear a hat if I'm outdoors, and I am teaching my kids to do the same.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My Dad started doing this when all his friends got skin cancer.

[–]ghostokg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Getting enough collagen in your diet will do the most for your skin quality bruh.

[–]part_wolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm your age. If you're already getting 7+ hours of sleep, adequate hydration, proper nutrition (50% veggies, every meal), regular cardio, avoiding smoking, and limiting alcohol and caffeine then you've got the internal factors covered.

Skin toner was a big difference maker for me. I'm fair skinned, so using a high SPF moisturizer every day and a high SFP sunscreen when outdoors is table stakes at this point. A good skin toner will remove the material that the soap won't get and it's designed to remove dead skin and hydrate the rest. It's important to match the type of toner with your skin type; certain types of toners work better if you've got oily skin versus just dry skin, et cetera. After I'm done washing my face, I'll put some toner on a damp washcloth and wipe my face down - focusing on any areas that are especially dry or oily. Once you've done this, your face is ready to absorb your moisturizer.

Secondly, exfoliating regularly is a big contributor for proper moisture absorption. Once per week is enough for me, and I rotate face/body/hands/feet on different days. For my hands/feet, I usually shave or grind down any callouses from lifting first so my grip stays tight and my hands don't rip during gymnastic work. Then, I exfoliate.

Lastly and most importantly, go to the dermatologist regularly. Get a skin check/cancer screening. Learn about your skin type and what's specifically recommended for you. Have them put together a skin care plan for you. If you sweat a lot outside the gym or have flaky skin/scalp, they'll help you fix that. I don't know why going to the dermatologist isn't more common amongst men, but once you're in your thirties it should be a must.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man, I drink so much water, and I wash my face and use a moisturizer. My face is still dry. Happy you posted this.

[–]tap09885340 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dermarolling or microneedling help restore collagen, also supplement collagen at least 20g a day.

Gear will age you crazy...

That is before and after pic of a 37 year old man. The old guy is the before.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Looks like two different people.

[–]gameoflibidos0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Neutrogena Deep Clean Facial scrub is the shit. Used it for years. It's basically just a gentle exfoliation of your skin in the shower every day. Doesn't dry out skin at all. I've found no real need for additional lotions or anything.. just use that daily.

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