Indoctrination in our schools

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I recently reviewed some literature for my local school district. For those who are unaware, many districts require volunteers from the community to review books prior to teachers being allowed to use them. As a part of this process, there is a lengthy evaluation form that must be filled out to ensure the material meets district standards.

I bring you Section G of this form, "Criteria For Evaluating Gender Bias," where each of the following standards must be rated:

  1. Both male and female characters reflect qualities such as leadership, intelligence, imagination and courage.
  2. Both males and females are represented as central characters in story and illustrations.
  3. Both males and females are shown performing similar work in related fields.
  4. People are referred to by their names and roles as often as they are referred to as someone's spouse, parent or sibling.
  5. Stereotyping language such as "women chatting / men discussing" is avoided.
  6. Biographical or historical materials include a variety of male and female contributions to society.
  7. Groups which include males and females are referred to in neutral languages such as people, mail carriers, firefighters or legislators.

Our educators - 85% of whom are female - are systematically indoctrinating our children into the feminist equality agenda. While I have always "known" this, it was particularly enlightening to see it first hand. To see behind the curtain, so to speak, at precisely how school districts approve books and the standards they demand.

The language policing really gets me. You can't say "Fireman" anymore, even though 95.5% of them are men. You apparently can't even discuss male dominated professions without giving a highlight reel of the very few women working in said professions or outright lying about their contributions. For example, 99% of coal miners are men; only 3.7% of workers on oil rigs are women; and of those "female roughnecks", a third are caterers and the rest primarily work in maintenance or health & safety roles. I just can't see how literature on world energy production could pass this evaluation process without distorting the truth of who is actually responsible for powering our homes and vehicles - and this is just one profession! What about garbage collectors, deep sea fishermen, electrical power line installers, mechanics, roofers, HVAC, metal fabricators, aircraft maintenance & service techs, construction workers, police officers and so on? Jobs that women by and large won't do.

Women are putting an awful lot of effort into presenting and upholding a false reality. If only they put that much effort into raising their boys to be men and loving and emotionally supporting the men who do the hard work so they can live life on easy mode. Instead they play make believe with our children, filtering the entire educational process through their utopian vision of what they feel the world ought to be instead of what it is.


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Title Indoctrination in our schools
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Date 24 May 2015 07:34 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]1beerthroway119 points120 points  (37 children) | Copy

Teacher here. This is the direction education has been going since the 70s (at least openly since the 70s) and it's because of how heavily female biased education is. The 70s is when women really started entering the work place in full force and really skewed the worldview that was taught.

It's eventually evolved into avoiding everything masculine. The authorities in education failed the big shit test from every female teacher involved, or the females just because the principals and did what they wanted because vagina.

Boys are expected to sit still, never challenge each other, never excel, read more often, write more legibly, and if you can survive 3 hours of female based activities and social structure then we'll reward you with 15 minutes of "play", which is non-imaginative and definitely doesn't allow for any risk, we wouldn't want you to get hurt. That's just the elementary level. Most boys give up by 6th grade anyways.

In middle school it's tough too. In the age of testing boundaries and authority, when you want to learn how to become more responsible and take your life into your own hands, you're instead punished for trying by your peers (You nerd! Teacher's pet!) Or the authority/system itself ("Mr. Beerthroway, I finished my work, what now?" "Well, Billy, I don't have anything for you because you can't work ahead of the rest of the class."). At the age when you begin to sexually develop, you're taught that everyone is equal and both sexes want sex and relationships(commitment), and that relationships work without sex. This means the only role models that boys have to look up to are women, fat married men, and tv stars, who is the most appealing? I've been lifting at the school gym and usually middle school boys come up there to learn from me and get motivated by my drive. I see positive changes in them throughout the rest of the day and they clearly look up to me. Not tooting my horn, I'm stating how badly they want male leadership.

The high school gets split massively between beta and alpha. Even the alphas don't know what to do though. Granted, this is a small 200 person high school, so perhaps in a big city the alphas may be more alpha like. But as it is, the only thing the alphas have going for them is looks and sports. In terms of growing into a man, you can see how they feel neglected from years of the girls around them getting all the attention, even if they perform better. So they do enough to just get by, not understanding the point of an education, not that there is a point to the way they are educated. No life skills are taught in school. Managing money, going without something you want to get something you need, accomplishment leading to reward (intrinsic or extrinsic), how to critically think, logic, language, none of these are addressed. Everyone is equally unique. They are uniquely equal. Competition is discouraged but the average needs to be raised to a new bar.

The education system is fucked. Flat out, I see no hope in it getting better. If I told a a girl that she can be better than boys and do anything she wanted I'd get a promotion. If I told a boy he should be better than everyone else, boy or girl, as long as he put in enough work, I'd get a warning. If I told the same boy to look at the divorce laws and statistics and ask him what the benefit of marriage really is, and if he could get the same benefits without being married, why marry?, I'd probably be fired, if it got around to administration (female principal).

When resources are abundant, competition is shunned. When resources are limited, competition is the only way to get resources. As long as education is seen as a free resource, the competition, and in turn the advancement, will be restricted.

Things I've observed in school that don't belong:

  • "Safe space" posters. This discouraged straight people from finding the correct answers/solutions to their problems because it puts the focus on something that's "special". What if I'm not gay and just have a run-of-the-mill question? If I ask it, I'll probably look stupid. Don't want to do that.
  • Imagination is shunned. History lesson? Read the book. No funny voices. It's not funny to pretend to be Genghis Khan with a silly Chinese accent.
  • Articles to be read are always pro-feminist, such as the anti-bullying movement, which has extended as far as excluding fat kids from playing sports being considered bullying.
  • Again, there is no substance. English classes teach about writing essays on mundane shit and as long as you have complete sentences, A or B. Math class never brings in real world scenarios, like how to measure out a square using the Pythagorean theorem, we only teach what the Pythagorean theorem is and how to do it on 100 different triangles. Science class is lucky to do an experiment twice a month. Music/art class is just an easy A, who cares that philosophers continually stress the importance of art for maintaining mental health. But they wouldn't know that because they don't teach philosophy either.

I'm going to end this rant by concluding that it seems like the only way out is through. I see no other option from inside the system.

[–]tits_out_forTheBoys42 points43 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wow. Awesome overview of the problems which plague the modern day,Westernized education system.

The education system is fucked. Flat out, I see no hope in it getting better. If I told a a girl that she can be better than boys and do anything she wanted I'd get a promotion. If I told a boy he should be better than everyone else, boy or girl, as long as he put in enough work, I'd get a warning. If I told the same boy to look at the divorce laws and statistics and ask him what the benefit of marriage really is, and if he could get the same benefits without being married, why marry?, I'd probably be fired, if it got around to administration (female principal).

Sharing your wisdom might be shunned in the schooling system, but it is certainly welcome here and would be just as helpful for all the men who browse this sub in search of direction in a world which shuns their masculinity.

Here, have a point.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Point awarded.

[–]foldpak1117 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

That part really stuck out. Spout out the truth and you're fucked. Unless you work as a mover or roughneck (I did both), watch yourself. We'd basically make fun of women all day. I even discovered a couple of them to be actual RP subscribers. Maybe special operations and PMC work is like that, too. I'm not some elite warrior so I don't know for sure. Anywhere else and your ass is a Jew with blue contact lenses and blonde hair dye in Nazi Germany.

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[–]gabilromariz5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can be there for him and help mitigate, reverse most of the damage if you pay attention and spend time with him. I have a god-daughter in 4th grade and i'm trying my best to make sure she doesn't become a basic bitch but the things she's "taught at school" sometimes sicken me, I try to teach her good stuff at home. Children are curious, take advantage of it

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

Math class never brings in real world scenarios

I remember asking my high school algebra teacher what the actual purpose of imaginary numbers were in real life. I was sort of mesmerized by how they worked and it was a really far-out abstract concept to me..

My teacher's response: Don't interrupt the lesson.

I swear, if I ever have children I'm going to make a point to be financially stable enough to send them to a private school or at least move to an area with a great public schooling program.

[–]foldpak1112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Home school is good as long as you get them socially active with sports and clubs.

[–]tyeunbroken-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

To be honest, the actual applications of imaginary numbers are kinda complex. The only real application I have used them for so far are second order differential equations, not really something you can teach in high school I think.

[–]razor51512 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're missing the point. The teacher could've said-"It's used in advanced Physics, you'll study it if you study Physics or engineering at college."

"Don't interrupt the lesson." is a shitty response. That teacher is a crappy teacher.

[–]tyeunbroken0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I see now. I agree, that would maybe even encourage people to follow their curiosity and become engineers, instead of mindlessly obeying the rules.

[–]rprando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are used to model impedance in circuits.

[–]LerbiTRP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Imaginary numbers have lots of uses. Anything to do with angular momentum or objects spinning in general can be modeled by imaginary numbers. Electric circuits, as what said, also makes use of imaginary numbers.

[–]tyeunbroken0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ah okay, I misunderstood the guy I was answering. You don't really have to explain how they are used in detail, but a simple example should help the class understand without going into the calculus

[–]meet_me_at_high_noon5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Im a history teacher. I've never had an issue with a history lesson and I introduce a lot of really controversial concepts in my lessons. I think you're on the whole right but it really depends on the teacher. I think the most critical issue is early education and how its handled. Higj school classes can be situated in a lot of different ways but early education is dominated by women and the clasrooms are frequently the same.

[–]1beerthroway12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not necessarily talking about controversial topics only. I'm speaking more about practicality of the education and the general focus and atmosphere.

The system itself is not emphasizing practical lessons. A teacher now has to spend time preparing a certain amount of work that is expected to be homework. Kids are not allowed to do this work in class, even if they have completed the classwork. They are expected to sit there, or read a book, or some other mundane activity that keeps them under control. Hell, if you did your work quietly and looked at the wall the rest of class, you'd be the model student.

You're right, teachers can overcome the system to a degree and teach what they want at the high school level. However, you and I both know if we started saying TRP principles or Dark Enlightenment/Neoreactionary principles that we'd at least get some reprimanding.

If you think you'd be able to say "feminism started in the 1850s and didn't gain any traction from the public because women didn't feel oppressed, nor were they oppressed. Slaves were oppressed, yes, but women had as much right as they were given responsibility. Most didn't care about the right to vote," then I'd say you're in a great district.

I agree, a big part of it is that teachers themselves hold the feminist views so they teach it. If you get a conservative teacher, obviously that will come out more. However, the stream is always flowing left, and if you move too far right, you're either going to move yourself out of the stream, get forced back in to the stream, or just get kicked out.

[–]CQC32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not a teacher but I hear there is a lot of "mandatory" bullshit teachers have to cover and test on when it comes to the curriculum. Education is a business, so it would seem to me that practicality is completely out of the window, it only needs to LOOK like the students are learning via results of standardized test scores (which is basically regurgitating bullshit, not actually coming up with it or understanding it's interconnections).

I was a terrible student, I was always failing courses and not doing my homework, a deep, dreadful disinterest overtook me for most of my middle and high school years. Regardless of all that, I never felt dumb. Part of me just knew I guess, although that isn't to say that it didn't wreak total havoc on me for "being a failure" and the death tolls of "you're not going to get into a good college". I just wanted to tell everybody to fuck off and stop assigning their ridiculous bullshit metrics of intelligence which they seemed to get awfully confused with level of unquestioning investment into busy work (good ol' teenage angst). Most of the times though, I didn't blame my teachers. I knew a lot of them really did try in their own ways, just sometimes you can't fight the system--especially when you have a paycheck and a family to think of.

I remember that despite my lack of interest in school, sometimes I did need to do my work to pass--to graduate, and there was a certain time where I finished my work in one class and pulled out the book for another and started working on that shit so I could fuck off after school. I was told to put it away because it was for another class. It amazes me how some people thrived in high school, they loved the complete structure of it. They loved being told when and how to do their work. The work itself was mundane and often times segmenting a complete thought into many questions which is just messy when comparing the organic manner in which thoughts occur and develop vs cracking them apart and weakening the connections between them.

It's not just in school either, I work a shitty part time job for pocket cash while I'm in college, and the work there doesn't take long to finish. You'll find yourself with 10-20 minutes of free time before there is more to do. However, if you end up with nothing to do because you did it all efficiently and quickly, you'll just be sitting there with your dick in your hand looking like a slacker if someone rolls by. So you basically have to train yourself to do things in the most wasteful and retarded manner possible.

[–]I-Am-Dickish3 points4 points  (10 children) | Copy

Meh, I try not to diss the math department because it is definitely the most necessary and productive department in schools today.

That said, I was fortunate enough to come from a "backwoods" school that definitely taught me more than city schools. How do I know? College. If the first time you see algebra is in college, what the fuck have you been doing for the past decade?

[–]tangman5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Public school math curriculum is broken and serves to damage the enjoyment of math in the minds of most kids.

If you're interested in why you should read A Mathematician's Lament

[–]I-Am-Dickish1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm sure it does, but my math teachers were quite good at ignoring the curriculum. I remember going outside and measuring shit when we studied the Pythagorean theory (honestly the most valuable thing to learn, it's used through calc 3 and in every physics and engineering class ever). I remember a set of blocks that made an arch and having to figure out which one was the keystone then building it.

I agree that it is shittily taught practically everywhere, but it's still the most valuable asset you could pick up in high school.

At the end of the day though, it's usually not the teachers fault or even the curriculum. After sitting a kid in front of the TV for the first five years of their life, how the fuck can you expect them to be motivated to learn anything?

[–]newls1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Quite a lot of teachers aren't qualified (this is IMO) and many of them don't teach practical examples because they just don't know any.

In the UK a lot of GCSE mathematics teachers at secondary schools only have AS-level or A-level maths (that's ~ to junior and senior at high school), and maybe a degree in psychology or education.

So sure, they can do the methods they're teaching, but they have no higher reference point. They don't want students asking why a method works because they don't fucking know.

Don't get me wrong though, at A-level the teachers almost always have good STEM degrees. And that's the way it should be for GCSE too.

I'm not saying teachers need a PhD, I want teachers able to incite excitement and passion about a subject thoroughly deserving of it, rather than making it into a hour of groaning drudgery.

[–]1beerthroway2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

But math itself is limited just like the rest. The education is never brought to "real world application". Education throughout history was not separated into distinct subjects as definitively as it is today. History, math, philosophy, music, and everything else can all be touched on when using a Socratic method. If we sat down students and said, "here's the problem, find a solution", that would be the beginning of solving real world problems. But instead we teach children that "this is the problem and this is how the world should be, so act like this and the rest will fall into place." It doesn't work that way.

The disconnect from reality, protecting students from reality, that is the main issue with our education system. The people (teachers, principals, aids, etc.) are only the minions. It's a pervasive ideology that can only be changed by accepting the reality, whether the reality is brought on by teachers teaching alternate viewpoints or a huge crash of an uneducated generation.

[–]foldpak111-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Schools should teach special forces type shit. Close quarters combat, disarming someone who tries mugging you, clearing rooms, starting a fire, language... school gets some things right, Spanish and PE are very transferable to real life.

[–]CQC33 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hope that mugger was a dropout or I'm getting mugged by a guy who knows special forces type shit.

[–]1gerwig2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's eventually evolved into avoiding everything masculine.

This is interesting. I wonder if in the past, the things boys were exposed to in school allowed them to become more masculine. Now it seems limited to the guys who were raised that way and had masculine role models.

[–]1beerthroway3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why do you think coaches turned an eye when players hazed freshman?

Anti-bullying? No. The only thing they don't want is boys learning how to make man jokes, in other words, saying mean things to each other that they don't really mean. Knowing how to take a joke is an essential manly skill. You fucking pussy.

Corporal punishment? Men have physical power and a stoic demeanor. He could easily regain control of the whole class by making one child a scapegoat, usually the alpha of the children. This serves a few purposes: * to show that he can physically hurt or manipulate you and stay calm. By staying calm, the child holds no resentment for the punishment. If the adult gets worked up, the child sees the punishment as a bad thing. This ability is exclusively masculine. I remember my dad carrying me out of the store, absolutely stone cold stoic while I screamed bloody murder that he wouldn't buy me that costume for Halloween. I screamed that I hated him in the truck for quite a while and he never said a word. I remember that distinctly to this day at how bad I felt saying I hated him (at about 3-4 years old). That is my first memory of experiencing masculinity. * one big punishment is more effective than a million tiny ones. * the adult shows that he's stronger than their alpha, instant alpha status. * nobody wants to experience pain so they don't act up. It's much easier to teach at that point. Teachers struggle a lot with classroom management today. It's the biggest issue being discussed in education, right next to bullying and test scores. I don't remember the last time I discussed with my administration or legislation the issues of school shootings, how to improve my relationships with my students, or being asked about what I think my students should be learning about. REAL FUCKING ISSUES. I digress...

Yes, there are many activities that have not only been ignored but explicitly prohibited that were directly done to promote masculinity.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's important to know that most young men have a constant low level adrenal cortisol response to the slightest form of confrontation. Rough upbringing's make you on edge. I'm fortunate to have gotten out of that mindset early though.

[–]NSA_web_spider1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

in my area, the anti bullying education has become insane. Everything is bullying - except bullying. They have a small number of teachers on the playground, and the bullying happens out of sight, and nothing happens when it does. A small kid actually used the "anonymous bullying web reporting" and was singled out in class to the bullies in the class, which I assume was to protect him, but more realistically, it just made him a target.

The hypocrisy of the whole thing is evident to even my 5 year old. He's rapidly losing faith that the system is there for his favor. Which is guess is not an overall bad thing, when I think about it - because it isn't.

The education system in North America was designed to produce people that could work without thinking too hard, then morphed into something designed to make children "feel correctly" without thinking about that either. They don't even learn to DO anything anymore. No shop, not even cooking or money management in math. Any actually practical skills that they learn are on the computer, which is going to make it hard to find a good plumber in 20 years.

I can't think of anything that my son has learned that couldn't be replicated by a google search. And my son knows that too.

I am taking my son's education seriously, but I get about 5 hours a day with him total, and they get 7 of pure indoctrination time. It's frustrating.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Went to a Chicago public high school and it was exactly like that. Straight up alpha male gangbangers that intimidated the staff. Grew up in a rural area and you are correct about that as well. Potential to be alpha but they are just missing a couple pieces of the puzzle.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for your great post. I totally agree with you on every point. I can say i've seen both sides of the coin. For most part of my high school i was a geek and learned a lot then i skipped a whole buch of classes during high school. Failed math.. And was awfull at siences. The thing is that i liked science a lot ! I was good at math for example, but the borigness and lack of practicality just killed it for me.

They required everything to be learned by heart. My love for math and science was sparjed by chance by an astronomy teacher that showed us hiw you can determine distances using pithagora's theorem. He then purceeded to show us how this is applied everywhere and finally how this applies to determining distance to the stars. My mind was blown then, but unfortunately i have a bad unstructured memory, suited better to humanitarian studies, so i coyld not apply to engineering (electrical one is awesoeme) and i ended up in economics.

If i were to summarize: they teach you what to think and not how to think. It's like they have to fill your brain to a certain mark so you are in line with the rest. After that the system does not give a damn. The system also does not care how you got the knowledge, people with good memory would thrive in such systems.

Seldom teachers made the extra step to do extra work and show you hiw to think and why it was important. The rest of the classes were like daily commute, they were just there.

And i think i have an answer to this problem: we should start teaching rationality and rational discurse in classes. After that people would start pursuing things by themselves no more action needed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great but depressing post. A lot of what you said lines up with my school experience.

[–]Zachar1a 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy

Genghis Khan was Mongolian.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (6 children) | Copy

I gather this is the US. In the UK, I recently discovered from my daughter that they explicitly teach about feminism (naturally in a very favourable and uncritical light) in high school. I don't recall being taught any political doctrine uncritically when I was at school. Yvette Cooper, on the Labour Party front bench has said she wants all boys to be indoctinated into feminism before they leave school. Fortunately, perhaps, the Labour Party did not do very well in the last election. The trouble is, the Conservative Education Secretary (Nicky Morgan) is a feminist, and she is also 'Women and equalities minister', so no bias there.

The communists learned this trick long ago, you have to get at the children.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seeing how far down the rabbit hole the UK has gone is truly frightening. Most of all because if history is any indicator its where the US will be in 10-15 years. Maybe we're already there. Observing the way teenage "boys" act these days is nauseating.

[–]DexterousRichard0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Unfortunately, your queen has been AWOL for some time. If she had given a shit about the destruction of the British empire, nation, and culture, she could have stopped it easily.

You guys need a king who gives a shit and starts getting involved. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it's already too late.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Que? The queen could have done no such thing. You apparently don't understand the concept of a constitutional monarchy.

[–]DexterousRichard1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually, the queen has quite a bit of influence if she chooses to wield it. Although I don't recall the particulars, I believe she has certain powers of advice and consent on legislation or at least on administrative actions.

Why "que"? Is your first language Spanish?

[–]truthfully_red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The queen has more overall influence than a first lady here in the States, and we have seen that people do at least take notice of first lady "efforts" even if the campaigns are ineffective.

Most certainly the queen could do something even though she does not have the power of law directly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fair enough. It terms of direct power, she has very little. She reads out what 'her government' is planning to do in the new parliament, but that script is written for her. Monarchy is required to be above party politics, so can never be seen to directly intervene or talk about parliamentary business otherwise. She could not criticise government education policy, for example. She can dissolve parliament and force a new election, but I think the last time that was done was in Victorian times, and if it was done with less than a truly evil government there would be a republic within 5 years.

So, she is actually more bound than a 1st lady. The latter is associated with a politician, and so for her to espouse ideas related to that political party would be quite ok, but the queen cannot do that. Her role is not a ruler, but a representative of the country, someone who entertains foreign dignitaries and such. Obviously, she does have influence behind the scenes. Politicians come and go from power, whereas she has walked in the corridors of power since before they were born. But influence as in a nice chat is all.

Charles is clearly interested in politics, although he has to keep quiet about it (there is a fuss when some of his letters to politicians come to light, he is seen as interfering). However, he is pretty unpopular, and it isn't clear a monarchy would survive him becoming king. William and Kate are very popular, but again, their hands will be tied.

So, we need to look elsewhere than monarchy for that kind of direction. The time when they could set the tone pretty much ended with Victoria.

[–]2comment12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Call 'em Governmental indoctrination centers.

They do way more than push feminism (but nothing beat my ENG101 classes back in college that was pushing every feminist hippie essayist down every freshmans' throats nonstop as reading material and then having to puke it up in our own words. Probably just around 100 pages written of having to "think" like a femibot.)

Universal schooling is a relatively new and powerful idea, that's done a lot of good, ensuring a minimum level of education. But like any powerful idea, comes a lot of people who see that power and drool over subverting it in some way, either for money or pushing ideology.

[–]herewegoaga1n23 points24 points  (6 children) | Copy

Oh god, I remember some crazy fucking teacher accused me of being sexist and that I was going to get expelled...just because the back of my pants were frayed and I said I'd just get one of my aunt's to fix it for me. Fucking lunatics, man.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

I once had some fat fuck dykey ultrafeminist teacher pull me aside in elementary school while I was in the library. She said something along the lines of "I saw you after school with (insert name) yesterday, and what you were doing was sexual harassment. Don't do it again."

What was I doing? I was playing tag with the girl. My point is that there are nutjobs like this in every walk of life and at every step of the system; people, mostly ugly older women, who see rape and sexual harassment and sexism in every shadow. People who see malice in any expression of masculinity.

I believe it's always been this way, but historically society has tamped it down (or those women have been gently encouraged by society to avoid being remaining childless into their 30s, so they had better things to do than to constantly shit on men and boys.)

The real problem we have now is that we've empowered this sort of crazy person. We've taught SJW and feminist types that their ideology isn't just "not crazy", it's acceptable and laudable. We're only just beginning to see the horrific damage that this is doing to our society. Believe me, men, it will get worse before it gets battle. Like one poster above said: the only way out is through.

[–]1beerthroway1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I believe it's always been this way, but historically society has tamped it down

This part, definitely. Or rather it's been the k-selected, conservative alphas keeping it down. It was called marriage.

(or those women have been gently encouraged by society to avoid being remaining childless into their 30s, so they had better things to do than to constantly shit on men and boys.)

Ever hear of Jane Austin? She was the first Stephanie Meyer.

[–]CQC30 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's insane, but I'd believe it.

If I ever have children I fear for them. The whole thing is really just a huge filter, the only kids who are going to get through without getting too fucked up are the ones who are innately alpha, or at least possess traits that will give them some staying power. For me, I was just stubborn as hell, for all I was chastised for it, being stubborn payed off for me.

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This absolutely happened, and that was all the way back in the late 90s. I shudder to think of what young boys have to deal with now that this type of nonsense has gotten 5x worse.

At least then the ritual shaming and mass medicating of boys behaving like boys wasn't quite so institutionalized. That woman was a crackpot, sure, but she was a (relatively) powerless crackpot. Working in today's schools, she'd probably have had the power to get me expelled or sent to therapy or something.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The more you got in trouble in grade school the better off you'll be in life. I was up in that office every day. I challenged every staff member and teacher every step they took. The passive aggressive shaming tactics used to con me into submission (be a good boy or you won't get into business--er--college) were fuckin money.

[–]foldpak1111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would've laughed out loud and tell her expulsion is a good idea. Can't go to a school where the teachers accuses you of heinous acts as it's politically incorrect. Two can play that game.

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Crikey. This made me glad that I had the hindsight to enrol myself into a selective entry boys high school, because I wanted to be well educated and at least have more exposure and encouragement to be a man (was raised by a single mother).

You can't pay your way in. It's a public school and only those with the highest exam grades get through.

More than half my teachers were men, most of whom were also former students of the school, and it was part of the school's philosophy to encourage us to develop into men, by doing your best, and strive to be leaders and rolemodels. Competitiveness and controlled aggression was encouraged. As students, we were always referred to as young men.

Sport was important too, but even if you're talented, it didn't matter if you didn't have the brains to pass the enrolment entrance exam anyways. We had various martial arts, army and air force cadets, among other extracurricular activities.

I've spent about 4 weeks in military barracks across the 4 years of high school, to be taught leadership and discipline, and as a side benefit, operate firearms (Australia, year 9-12 high school).

No girls to distract you at school. If you wanted some, you'll just have to learn to pick up after school yourself. During the time I was there, there was some public debate as to why single-sex schools should (not) exist.

Most of us students essentially agreed to, "Fuck you. We wanted to be here, and we made it. The culture and education brings us here, and makes the school what it is. Go to another elite school and try to make the grade. Or build one yourself."

Only feminists, SJWs and beta orbiter types didn't like single sex schools, because "it teaches the youth to be unrounded beings".

[–]1runnerrun25 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah it's about time this ends. There are multiple reasons that tie in with technological advancements though, which makes this tricky. Also the elite like it this way, less of a chance of a new generation of men disturbing the status quo. But our society is feminized way beyond normal.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They still need to watch out for us. We coming for that ass

[–]1favours_of_the_moon4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

Women are putting an awful lot of effort into presenting and upholding a false reality. If only they put that much effort into raising their boys to be men and loving and emotionally supporting the men who do the hard work so they can live life on easy mode. Instead they play make believe with our children, filtering the entire educational process through their utopian vision of what they feel the world ought to be instead of what it is.

It is important to hold people as "equal" before the law. No one should have to face biased judgement about themselves, but should be judged (if necessary) based upon the facts of their particular case and the laws that pertain therein.

While it is important to promote ("socially engineer") people to not hate each other or be prejudiced against one another based upon gender, race, orientation and whatnot, I personally do feel that this sort of thing goes beyond just that.

They are essentially criminalizing the truth. This false reality is in fact a COPING MECHANISM. These people (not just women) find it VERY IMPORTANT that these women view themselves as "identical" to men. Not equal to them before the law, not just as important as men, just as valid, but THE SAME.

This can be damaging, not only because they are in fact actively discriminating against boys in the class room by treating them as "defective little girls," but in fact, because men DO things that are difficult and dangerous. The link you post above about how women don't do all those jobs is very telling.

Women talk about "equal pay for equal work." Everyone should get equal credit for the job they do. Yet here, women want to get credit for doing all these jobs, that they just do not do. They're not out there doing the hard physical labor, they're not risking their lives, putting themselves at risk. But they want to lie and pretend that they are.

They want to BULLY us into accepting that they are, but they are not. There's definitely something wrong going on here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Why is it important that people not judge other people based on gender, race, or abnormal sexual practices?

[–]1favours_of_the_moon4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

If a person is an asshole then they are an asshole.

They are not an asshole, because they are black, Asian, like dicks rather than pussies or are female. Are black people better at basketball? Probably. Does that mean we should hate them or love them more than anyone else? No.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Women behave differently than men. Black people behave differently than Asian people behave differently than White people. Gay people behave differently than straight people.

Do you treat all these groups the same? Do you like all these groups the same?

[–]1favours_of_the_moon1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's not about whether I like them. It's about whether the government can find them guilty before the law, based on their race, ethnicity, etc. rather than the facts of the case.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm confused. First it was about equal treatment before the law. Then it was about "hate or love"--which is close enough to "like" as to make no difference. Now it's about guilt being established solely based on race.

Which is it?

[–]1favours_of_the_moon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Again, if you want to hate on people based on race, gender, orientation wtf ever, go right ahead. But don't expect the government or the public schools to support that.

Clearly that's important to you.

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I've spent the last three or four comments trying to figure out exactly why you think men should be judged the same as women, gay people the same as straight people, and social group A the same as social group B. I haven't gotten anywhere.

Whatever. I'll stick to flirting with women and not with men, assuming that pink-haired lesbians are a little messed up in the head, and staying far, far away from the ghetto at night.

[–]Daily_Dosage_34 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem of modern feminism has a few hideous roots digging deep into our culture. Education is one of them. OP's post should be voted to the top.

The indoctrination does not stop after you graduate high school. I went to Berkeley, so try going there and see the indoctrination on power point slides, white boards and chalk boards. I have faith in us though. Places such as TRP will only grow larger as high school and college-aged males seek outlets.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING STRENUOUS OR RISK OUR LIVES AND LIMBS, BUT GIVE US CREDIT FOR HAVING DONE SO.

WHILE WE SIMULTANEOUSLY ACCUSE YOU OF ENSLAVING US.

[–]ioncloud92 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm of the opinion that it's really men to blame for this. You know the type. White knight, limped dick, probably whipped by his feminazi wife. But he is a legislator. So he signs away men's rights at every turn.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Odd reference but have you seen The Wire?

As a politician (or anyone else really) climbs up the ladder the begin to sacrifice increasing amounts of their own self-identity and convictions for career gains. These guys are just taking the path of least resistance.

When I was in law school I remember sitting in Con Law lecture (mostly these became in class discussions) and I'll tell you I was the only one brave enough to provide a non-PC/non-feminist/non-progressive point of view. The result? Men came up to me on multiple occasions thanking me for giving a sensible comment on the matter. On the flip side, several women began giving me dirty looks and the like. Most guys are not willing to take a risk being ostracized instead they just become sheep.

Edit: wow and I just noticed the comment below me is about GoT. Crazy coincidence.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wish we lived in the Game of Thrones so we could cut his dick and balls off for his betrayal. Honestly, he does not deserve them at all.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Biographical or historical materials include a variety of male and female contributions to society.

Sweet! No biographical or historical reading this year

[–]mikeburnfire2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The language policing really gets me.

I feel the opposite about this one, actually. Changing 'Fireman' and 'Policeman' to 'Fire Fighter' and 'Police Officer' isn't about misleading public perception-- it's about removing mental barriers. Girls can grow up to be competent officers, but fewer would do so if they perceived it to be a men-only job.

Likewise, divorcing gender from occupation removes the barriers for boys to become nurses, 'stewardesses', and 'barmaids'.

Fighting against gender-neutral job titles is a waste of time, and the least offensive part of the 'present everybody as equal' agenda.

[–]watersign1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

ever notice how there was an 80s pop band called "men at work" and there hasn't been and never will be a band called "women at work" ?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

All the more need for mens only groups to develop boys into men.

Sports, Outdoor programs, Martial Arts, lifting weights etc.

We're going to have a generation of boys lost and looking for male leadership

[–]Killer_Wolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Many schools are making P.E. Optional, or getting rid of their P.E. Classes entirely. This not only encourages feminism, but also obesity.

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I wonder how long it would take for them to accuse the leaders of that group of some form of pedophilia. Overt spaces for men and boys to interact is not tolerated. There has to be a woman present in order to "facilitate" the learning.

[–]nomad-oz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In many Tribal Cultures young boys are raised among the females till a certain age. They are then taken by the men and go through an initiation process. Afterward they leave the word of women and live in a male world.

I'm sure there is money to be made in "Boy into Man" programme

[–]1gerwig0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It would be good if more guys should go into teaching and education, the problem is it's a somewhat low-paying/low-status sector.

[–]RP_Vergil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's just not only education. More and more choice of words are being "soften up". Like in one of the shows by George Carlin, the softening of words seems to be geared towards diluting the true meaning of such words.

In the end the true meaning is completely covered up so as to present a concept where it's "politically correct" and doesn't "trigger" unwanted responds.

Have Human beings soften till such a stage where they cannot handle even words anymore before breaking down?

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As a guy currently working towards a bachelor's in a STEM field (computational math), the feminine crap that is now force-fed to students elsewhere is practically non-existent in my work, probably because math is mainly, I don't know, actual logic where emotions are irrelevant? Even though the work is quite masculine, about 95% of the other dudes I work with bleed Blue.

[–]Dr_Morsu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, but because the male condition is one of logic and reason it takes just a quick bit of work to show a man the folly of their ways and he will come around to the light fairly quickly.

[–]DrunkenOni -3 points-3 points [recovered] | Copy

To be honest the only one of those points that super irritates me is 6 because it's historically dishonest. It's shoe-horning minor accomplishments to deny history. Rather than discuss the historical context of why men are at the forefront more than women, they just deny it and try to paint it as equal since there's been history. It's no better than creationists.

Seven is irritating but that's been a thing since the 90s when political correctness was becoming a big talking point.

The rest, eh. I know it puts me in the minority here and I hate feminism as much as the next guy but I don't really think it's a grand conspiracy to have both men and women featured prominently and smartly in material. Trying to call them firepeople instead of firemen is a bad use of feminism. Putting female role models in educational material is a good use.

[–]1independentmale[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't really think it's a grand conspiracy to have both men and women featured prominently and smartly in material.

If there are ample real life examples available of both men and women in the situation being taught, then I'd agree with you. I have no problem giving women glory when it is earned and due.

I take issue with the laborious steps one must take to stretch and distort reality when this is not the case. If, for example, we are dealing with a subject that is 95% male dominated, why should the author be forced to prominently feature those precious few women, representing them as if everything is equal when it damn well isn't?

Somewhat related: Many years ago I helped to build and operate a complex piece of custom machinery for my employer. My team consisted of 100% men. When it came time to publicize our accomplishment, the company brought in several women and 2 men for the photo shoot. They posed the women as if they were operating the equipment and the men as if they were watching in awe of the sheer feminine brilliance. These bitches didn't even know what it was, what it did or how it worked, but those were the faces the company wanted to represent them.

None of the engineers who actually built the thing were allowed in the shoot. My job that day was to babysit the girls and keep them from actually touching anything while coaching them on how to pose so it "looked real." That was the only time a woman ever came near this machine.

[–]bacdafucoff-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I believe there is nothing wrong with being gender neutral.

Edit* Changed to show it was only my opinion.



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