"10s"

user_7at · 2016-05-02T18:12:46+00:00

It's insane how fast women who have gotten nothing but attention will bend to someone who ignores or disregards them. They're not used to the chase and that sets you apart.

TheStumblingWolf · 2016-05-02T19:06:28+00:00

God damn I love this community and its unfiltered no-bullshit descriptions of how human psychology really works. People are so busy being politically correct and wrapping everything in proverbial cotton that it almost sickens me.

Meat-on-the-table · 2016-05-02T18:14:14+00:00

The halo effect applies at a base level for every woman and only gets amplified according to their beauty.

Co-opted quote: Treat a whore like a whore, and a princess like a whore.

naMlliPdeR · 2016-05-02T18:04:53+00:00

Thanks for your contributions man! I still have your online dating guide bookmarked. It's helped me so much in many aspects of interacting with women (both online and in person) and has tangibly improved my results drastically.

grass_cutter · 2016-05-02T20:30:29+00:00

I don't agree with all of this.

Firstly hot chicks are just as insecure as anybody else. They usually know they are hot, but also struggle to be taken seriously and are always questioning whether men are friends/ or even dating them strictly for their nice bod/ ass/ face, or something more.

They also get the weirdest reactions from men, bar none, because many men are always nervous or "trying to make something happen" with her all the time, so say ridiculously stupid shit, try and bust on her a lot, and fuck knows what else.

Even though men "act weird" around her a lot, especially at work and other weird places, they don't get directly approached as much because the cowards at the bar have more courage to approach that club-footed 7 who appears "higher chance."

The most important thing to do with a 10 is NOT CHANGE YOUR GAME, AT ALL.

That's the biggest mistake. Thinking you have to run "ultra game" suddenly is the biggest fucking mistake; you're already putting her on a pedestal and acting like a weirdo.

Treating her like porcelain goddess is one mistake. Another is the ultra-obvious over-reaction and talking shit to her constantly and putting her down and reacting to her all the goddamn time, or "correcting her."

Act like a normal human being, run your standard game, that's the best way. Not being intimidated or goofy is what will set you apart. That and just being a cool guy to start out with.

submitted_5_days_ago · 2016-05-02T18:18:45+00:00

DO NOT BEND

He who must adapt has the lesser power.

When women adapt to your will to plate them (no commitment) you have the greater power.

When customers adapt to the monopoly company they have the lesser power.

And so on, and so on in every aspect of life.

FLFTW16 · 2016-05-02T22:18:28+00:00

I guarantee to you that any other-worldly attractive chick you meet has some serious baggage. And how do I know this? Because of the halo effect. If everyone around her constantly sees her as blameless, she’s almost certain to go down some dark paths with little to no resistance.

...the hottest girl at the bar. But how exactly do you go about plating her?

This is an excellent point and I will just add something about marriage for those traditionalists reading TRP:

The sad, ironic truth is that almost all beautiful women are not marriage material. This is something traditionally minded cultures (that encouraged marriage 1.0) have always understood but they rarely outright explained. Due to the combined advantage of being 1) a woman and being 2) beautiful, beautiful women almost always grow up to be manipulative shit-testers who think their shit don't stink. They are not fun to be in a relationship with. They are a fleeting experience to enjoy. Pump and dump or plate until they drop.

I don't have a specific reference for this on hand, but I recall reading some interesting scholarly sources regarding marriage trends in China as well as Jewish matchmakers. The "folk wisdom" is to set yourself up with a woman we might call a "6, 7, or 8". Nines and Tens are off limits. If you really need to bust a nut in one go downtown to a prostitute who is a 9 or 10, but you don't marry one. All nines and tens got away with too much while they were growing up. They were daddy's little princess. They could do no wrong in school. Everyone was chasing them for dates. They become social experts from floating through life on easy mode. They learn how to manipulate by batting their eyelashes. They simply don't make a good mate for a husband. But go ahead and fuck 'em when you can.

This is the fucked up paradox for men and marriage 1.0: you want the prize of a beautiful wife but if you win that prize you are rewarded with a shitty relationship because beautiful women make for poor marriage partners. If you take the more homely woman she will be a good partner but your eyes will always be wandering. You will be wondering about fucking other, hotter women.

Marriage 1.0 was no halcyon institution where all was right with the world and everyone fucked beautiful slender submissive wives. Men lost no matter what. Marriage wasn't about winning, it was a duty you engaged in for the sake of your tribe, your nation, for civilization. For the good of the children.

And now even M1.0, as functional as it was, isn't even an option. We are living during fallen times. Or as Captain Capitalism once said: This IS the collapse. It's a choice between a so-so option and a meh-meh option. You just sack up and get on with the task at hand. Find your niche. Read the wisdom of the ancients and heed the warnings of your elders.

Sir_Distic · 2016-05-02T19:01:01+00:00

Abundance mentality provides you the ability to walk from ANY woman. Always be willing to walk.

Stythe · 2016-05-02T18:54:53+00:00

I had a female friend who would do this when I didn't agree with her stances of female objectification. She always made sure to hang up the phone first too. Seems to have changed now that she's a little older and more miserable.

Reastruth · 2016-05-03T01:08:36+00:00

In my experience, if you walk away, most attractive women will easily just get validation and attention from any other guy (or guys) waiting to talk to her, buy her drinks, invite her to their table etc. Then she will flirt with them and maybe go home with and fuck them.. How would you avoid getting AMOG'D?

Physio_Tool · 2016-05-02T19:08:20+00:00

They cannot stand rejection. My ex Unicorn was hard nexted by my bro that dated her just prior because he saw her giving her number to random dude at a party. She was moving to branch swing, but because he just dropped her and went no contact she said when we broke up "I was still into him for the first three months we were together."

Expectations1 · 2016-05-02T20:45:34+00:00

Its like patrice o neal says "WE'RE BETTER THAN THEM"

ClericJohnPreston · 2016-05-02T22:08:05+00:00

"Don't keep anything in your life that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds if you spot the heat around the corner". Neil McCauley (Deniro in "Heat")

It doesn't QUITE work perfectly for TRP in this context but this is exactly what I think of every time this subject matter is brought up here. I love that movie.

whatyearisthisagain · 2016-05-02T22:32:23+00:00

Can I have this?

DJGammaRabbit · 2016-05-02T19:42:58+00:00

Love this post because it's truer than anything I've experienced. You're friend zoning ME? It's unfathomable.

[deleted] · 2016-05-02T23:59:13+00:00

OmLaLa and his readers creating Alpha Widows . God Bless TRP

EscortSportage · 2016-05-02T20:54:16+00:00

I totally agree with being indifferent and telling women no. Ive been seeing this woman for a while now and ive said no numerous times and got firm with her, and the next time i saw her she had cold beer and dinner waiting for me, among other things. Its like the more times i say no, or im busy or i cant i have plans the more she wants me.

paradigm shift

G3RTY · 2016-05-02T19:49:01+00:00

I tried walking away after an, "ok" and she never came back and some other guy forcibly made out with her a few hours later.

Il128 · 2016-05-03T14:32:19+00:00

The real negative about hb9-10 is that they have insanely high n counts. They are very much used to pumping and dumping the highest quality men. For them there's always another alpha in the wings.

Most of these women I've spent time with game just as hard as the best man can game. They really are incapable of commitment and would never stop playing the field.

The other thing I've noticed about them is that they are all looking to gold dig some poor bastard.

When she's smoking hot I just game my best and hope for some NSA sex. I can't imagine actually plating one of these hb9-10 chicks.

askmrcia · 2016-05-02T21:43:18+00:00

I just experienced this, over the weekend. So this 9/10 girl at work asked me to go out with her and this other guy. I said sure. This past Saturday me and this girl been texting trying to figure up a time and place. I picked a location and she bitched about it. So I picked another one that was a five minute walk from her apartment.

It was downtown. We agree to meet up at eleven. Me and the other guy are pretty close. So we grabed a few beers while waiting. It's now 11:45pm and she is saying she is on her way. I said whatever, and had me and the other guy go to another bar.

So we at the second bar. The girl calls me and ask where I'm at. I say "I'm at a bar that's like 100yds away. Just walk on down." She said she can't do that because she will be raped if she walked down because of the way she was dressed. I laughed and told her Ill come get her. I honestly thought she was joking and wanted me to go get her and walk with her. I was like "yes she wants me to walk alone with her, now's my chance."

Boy oh boy, was I wrong. She completely flipped on me. Started cussing me out saying I was an asshole for having her wait at the bar by herself. She then said I'm an asshole for telling her to walk to the bar I was at by herself. I was like wtf?

I told her, "well you were late." She says "who shows up at a bar at 11pm." I'm thinking, you agreed to show up at that time, so why does it matter?

So we get to the 2nd bar. I start chatting up with these group of girls just for fun, not paying her or the other guy attention because she was pissed off at me. Five minutes later she flips on me again saying I'm weird for picking a bar that plays pop music. She wants a bar that plays rap music. Now the bar we were at played both. So I'm like whatever.

She then flips on me again saying she feels awkward around me because she can't hang out with two guys at one time. Keep in mind, this was all her idea. She wanted us two guys to hang with her. I just improvised the plans, but it was all her idea. So she tells me she is leaving the bar for another club she's more familiar with.

Me and the other guy follow her to this bar, which was like next door. We at the other bar and she has to "go to the bathroom." When she leaves I tell the other guy that nothing against him, but I'm leaving.

So that was this past Saturday

Today all three of us meet up at work. Now as I mentioned me and the other guy are boys. We always go to lunch together so we can play pool. Well not always, but most days. Today she asked if she can come with us. Now she never did this before. I invited her to lunch all last week and she declined. We said sure. As we are walking to the cafeteria the girl was like "hey lets just drop it, everything cool." And I was like "Sure since I didn't do anything wrong, but yea lets drop it."

You guessed it. That started a mini argument because "what do you mean you didn't do anything wrong?" I told her I left because she said she felt awkward when being out with two guys at the same time. So to make her feel less awkward she can hang out with just the other guy.

So eventually we agree that we cool.

Now why did I tell this story? Because she's a 9/10 and she thinks guys like me is supposed to bend over for her. She came 45mins late. Not to mention we picked a place literally 5mins away from her. She took a FREAKING UBER to the bar because she thinks guys will rape her if she walks down the street by herself. Those were her words and she says she never goes out alone. During Saturday she kept texting me being unsure if she wants to go or not. So what I'm saying is she made the entire planning process hard and she killed the mood when all three of us went out. She no doubt got away with that behavior before. The other guy stayed with her. She even bragged to me today how her and the other guy had so much fun together after I left.

Now I can't tell if she wants me and is using the other guy to get me jealous or she wants me and the other guy to give her attention. The other guy is short and not as attractive. He's my boy, but its true. He's like 5'5 and I'm 6'0". All of us are 25 years old.

Just a little background. We are all new workers in training. I flirted with this girl at the job (I know don't shit where you eat, but she is gorgeous). She seemed interested at first.

Edit: Grammar

[deleted] · 2016-05-03T05:54:22+00:00

Not only does walking away when she acts up display alpha traits from her perspective, but it's also a totally healthy approach to an argument or disagreement in some cases.

1.) distancing yourself for a moment to gather your thoughts and not bend and lose frame.

2.) it's good for self-respect. You want to date someone who's going to act like an adult.. Not some bratty teenager who raises their voice to you and acts disrespectfully.

3.) She gets a moment to herself to calm down and gather herself emotionally.

4.) She learns that she can't act that way in an argument with you because it's not going to go anywhere.

Whether it's your girlfriend guilt tripping you over going out with your friends, your kid crying for a snickers at the grocery store checkout, or friends who think it's okay to flake on friday night plans 20 minutes before going out.. When you make your stance you stay firm in your stance. If you decide to give in, they'll learn that they can get you to cave if they do A, B, and C. If you don't cave, those options don't exist..

The only option that exists is to earn your positive feedback for whatever reward it is they want. If your girlfriend acts up for going out, don't give in. It's your life, you can do whatever you want and if you're obviously loyal and there are no red flags that suggest you're cheating on her then have a talk with her and let her know you need guy time with your friends every now and then. I your kid wants a snickers at the grocery checkout they can act well mannered at the store and get a treat for doing a good deed during the week or something. If your friends keep ditching you, start planning fun events and invite everyone in your close friend group except the dude who's a constant flake. Tell him "I would have hit you up but you've flaked on me 3 times in a row".

aazav · 2016-05-03T23:06:14+00:00

(nonchalantly) dumped.

Bingo. You hit their pain point. They CARE about the attention.

greatmikeshark · 2016-05-02T20:50:22+00:00

upvoted on the fact it's not the length of a PHD thesis

RedPistola · 2016-05-02T21:41:59+00:00

Om, I missed you bro. I'm glad the promotions keeping you busy. Keep the snippets coming, they're much appreciated.

meh613 · 2016-05-03T00:07:28+00:00

How can I tell if I have a girl "half-interested" in me? Their reactions to my conversation have ranged from (mostly) politely listening to asking to come over and giving me a blowjob (on one occasion). Now, of course, the one that came over was a 1 on my (harsh) scale for rating women, and she's still stalking me.

Nikelu · 2016-05-03T11:06:23+00:00

OmLaLas posts are fuarking golden

[deleted] · 2016-05-03T13:15:50+00:00

You've basically elaborated on what I've been saying in a not-as-articulate manner for ages - treat hot women the same you you'd treat a spoiled child.

Wel108 · 2016-05-04T11:30:31+00:00

This is great. I just posted something completely opposite of this, which is kind of funny.

vandaalen · 2016-05-03T10:38:28+00:00

Get a girl at least semi-invested in you in some way, wait for her to try and start an argument or debate over something stupid, don’t engage, say something neutral like “Ok” (as if you didn’t hear a word she just said)

This is also a great way to teach your girl about creating unnecessary drama.

If she is in the process of beginning to throw a tantrum, don't cut her off, but let her go. Let her go full meltdown, scream at you, insult you, cry, whatever. Don't even move your eyebrow, but look at her dead-serious all the time.

Once she stops, maybe expecting an answer, just reply with “Finished? ... Good.“ followed by a 180 and a soft next.

DoesNotMatterAnymore · 2016-05-03T07:51:36+00:00

I met this girl, she is young, early 20s. 178cm tall, black hair, well did fake tits, perfect body, one of the most beautiful girl i ever saw. With a smile that non of you could resist. She is like a younger version of Rachel Weisz, just better.

She was $67/hour (swallowing included).

Worth it? well, no.

Yes, she is a prostitute, a shockingly beautiful one. If you would run into her in a bar, you would NEVER expect this from her. Since she can get any man, but still, she does what she does. And from my experience she is not enjoying it, but you know, all of them have BIG DREAMS.

Listen, someone will be so happy to wife her up. I can't even imagine how much baggage she has right now. Seemingly, she is the most fucked up girl i ever paid for.

Il128 · 2016-05-03T22:04:45+00:00

Holy shit. I see from the comments 99% of you haven't even been within ten feet of a 10 let alone gamed one.

First of all, these women are the masters of dread game. You meet dread game with dread game and see how that goes.

The thing to do is maintain frame and use acceptance technique. You're never going to land a 10 by ignoring her.

Intensityintensifies · 2016-05-03T00:03:45+00:00

I agree with the bulk of your post but I feel that saying O.K. when you disagree is not the proper route. She's used to people saying O.K. or, "whatever you want beautiful" just to keep her around and keep her happy. From my personal experience picking up the gauntlet and explaining why you disagree with her and not being scared to challenge her on the power she thinks she has over men gets a far better response because you are asserting your independence and making her actually fight to be right rather than assuming her tits will do the talking. Saying O.K. is in a way bending to her because she'll just hamster herself into a position where she thinks you surrendered.

Title	"10s"
Author	OmLaLa
Upvotes	628
Comments	123
Date	May 2, 2016 5:54 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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