Hiring Women?

Corvvs · 2019-04-17T03:00:36+00:00

You made the right choice, not just because of male vs female, but because you chose the person with demonstrated work ethic. Job-specific skills can be taught, determination and hard work cannot. Credentials do not equal aptitude.

Yuniiii · 2019-04-17T01:09:32+00:00

if only more people in similar to yours position would think like you.

GoneMYway · 2019-04-17T03:14:42+00:00

I don't think you did hire the man being the least qualified. Qualified doesn't just mean what degrees and what education you have. Qualified is also about, exactly those questions you asked about, how well you actually work, how you work with people, and how you deal with bad things.

From what you've said, you hired the man because he puts his work first, he clearly puts in a lot of effort, and he's clearly in a position where he wants to get ahead in life, he took the bus, and was working as janitor while going to school. He has good work ethic, determination, and a will to get ahead of where he is now. From what you've said, he seems like he'd be a better employee than the women.

Im_Talking · 2019-04-17T00:50:45+00:00

I think you made the right decision.

I have had a couple of businesses, last one I had 12 employees when I sold it. I can honestly say that 95% of the shit that goes on in the office is female-initiated. I looked at the time-off stats and the women, regardless of whether they had kids or not, always took the most days off. Any weird request came from a woman. Any office drama was some women that didn't like someone else. Any customer complaints was an issue resulting from a female.

Men, otoh, got to work, worked, had some laughs, and left.

ksoviero · 2019-04-17T03:18:01+00:00

This is a dangerous post. If one of those women finds this and ties it back to you, you could be in for a hell of a lawsuit.

bootius_maximum · 2019-04-17T04:21:40+00:00

The man; his answer was "I try to smooth the situation over and just get going with the work. We can deal with any hurt feelings after the work is done"

Egoless employees = friction-less workplace

45derangement · 2019-04-17T02:37:03+00:00

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Shimakaze4 · 2019-04-17T01:24:34+00:00

Good call. That bloke sounds like a hard working, dedicated person. My dad both held down a full time job while going to night school for 10 years, he was one fucking good worker until he retired for medical reasons.....also get stuffed, I have a BA with Honours in History lol

ColdStoryBro · 2019-04-17T02:58:00+00:00

HR teams are mostly women. The candidate filtration process is therefore extremely feminine. Most hiring decisions that are not filtered by retarded bots are filtered by retarded women. Now i'm not surprised by the rise of effeminate men in corporate spaces and the effeminate male managers who whiteknight as well.

To even get into that interview, the man has to fight the most geocentric education systems and this whole non-sense idea of networking. Which to me appears like using some acquaintances to get ahead instead of your pure talent <-- This is gyno as fuck.

Ultimately we are in the part of the 100 year business cycle that having pure talent doesn't actually matter. Rates of fraud are increasing as companies shift from their goals of providing the best products or services to being ambassadors for social causes. Its the slow death of industry. The squandering of labor opportunities. The slowing of new technologies with an artificial impression of growth.

blueablaze · 2019-04-17T01:31:23+00:00

Go ahead SIR. Best Decision Ever.

r1chten · 2019-04-17T04:21:13+00:00

Degree doesn't always mean merit. And in this era of me too you minimized chances of a false claim. You made the right choice.

Francais74 · 2019-04-17T01:30:16+00:00

i have a friend who have a finance compagny here in geneva.
he began two year ago and needeed to hire some secretary, he take only some mens, no bullshit, good vibes.

he is happy and he can go out without stress about all bs

InformalCriticism · 2019-04-17T01:36:18+00:00

Once/if my business takes off, I think I'll be taking a similar attitude.

nyctrashman69 · 2019-04-17T03:06:32+00:00

Garbageman here. Its really a crazy phenomena (maybe a doctor could weigh in) but I somehow fall sick and am suddenly unable to work every time they tell me to work with a woman. Is it because my sickness is misogyny or sexism? or maybe just because I enjoy not fucking up my back?

daddylonglegs72 · 2019-04-17T03:31:21+00:00

I think you made a good decision, I remember reading in Steve Wynn's book one time about a situation with a blackjack dealer where the dealer could not figure out how to deal properly and the pit boss was like I don't know what to do? Steve asked does he come in early? Yes Does he stay late? Yes Does he work through his lunches? Yes, Steve said keep him you can't train that, you can teach him how to deal though.

he ended up learning and being a great asset to the casino

Cestus_Saphrax · 2019-04-17T05:36:35+00:00

I am a Senior Manager in IT Business Consulting and i can proudly say that my team is completlely male.

- No PMS

- No Maternity leave

- No Bullshit

- No #metoo

- etc.

The morale, collaboration and performance is awesome and of course => work hard, party hard :D

DWShimoda · 2019-04-17T03:23:21+00:00

One of my questions is something like "how do you deal with difficult people" the women gave me the answer of "I ask the person to speak privately and express how their comments hurt my feelings and its not appropriate"

LOL... that's pretty says it all, and is all you need to know right there: they view everything as being about THEM and THEIR "feeeelings" (i.e. it's a prophecy of a future #MeToo shitfest in bright neon letters).

Also this:

The man; his answer was "I try to smooth the situation over and just get going with the work. We can deal with any hurt feelings after the work is done"

Means -- relatively speaking -- he is THE most qualified. (Technically he's the only one of the three candidates that actually IS qualified.)

General_Fear · 2019-04-17T02:12:33+00:00

If I owned a company I would never hire a woman. Scratch that. I would hire a token old woman as a secretary. She is a twofer. She is a woman so I can't be accused of sex discrimination. Then she is old so I can't be charged with age discrimination.

PrismMage · 2019-04-17T03:01:40+00:00

Hiring Women?

Oh you want to treat MGTOW like a standup comedy club now? LOL!

On a serious note, you made a good choice.

2019-04-17T03:44:54+00:00

Hope you posted from an account that can't be traced back to you because admitting that is the same as saying "I'd like to be sued and lose, thanks!"

But the truth is that more and more men are doing exactly this. Even women are avoiding hiring other women. The people who are going to be impacted most are attractive women. The ugly feminists are waging war on men, but the real target of all this is the attractive women.

bigmodaman20173 · 2019-04-17T04:27:17+00:00

This hit me emotionally. You're a great person

Gordon-G · 2019-04-17T04:37:22+00:00

You absolutely made the correct decision OP. I actually recently left a job bc I had to work with an entitled egotistical woman. She spent most of her day flirting with male colleagues and then would make excuses for not having a project done on time. I would work late and on weekends to catch up while she did neither. Then the icing on the cake was when our cucked simp boss actually gave her a higher rating in the group over half a dozen men. I complained privately to HR who only gave me lip service. Last stray I immediately started to look for another job and left couple months later.

Little-Kitty-Dreamer · 2019-04-17T08:25:06+00:00

Art is actually a fucking hard degree when approached properly. It's like 90% philosophy and 10% making stuff.

Disgruntledfamilyguy · 2019-04-17T15:37:20+00:00

I used to use a "live demonstration" tactic to see how candidates handled adversity and willingness to take criticism. I would ask for a writing sample and then red-line it to shreds and present it to the candidate for a response. Every women candidate I did this to got emotional, cried, or got angry and defensive. Granted, some men got defensive as well. But, it was only the male candidates who were able to suck it up, say that they appreciate the feedback and that if hired, would work to improve their writing to my standards.

Typical female response was: "But, everyone has always said I was a good writer!; I majored in English literature!; I find this offensive!; That is how I was taught!"

Dzartovian94 · 2019-04-17T02:58:17+00:00

Where were you when I was looking for work?

Thankfully there are some people out there that understand that it’s meritocracy or death. No one deserves anything because of what they are but because of who you are.

If I was in your position, I would do the same.

unholygunner714 · 2019-04-17T05:03:49+00:00

Even before the #metoo movement I have always hired on attitude instead of skill. If you had the right attitude and felt like a good fit we could train on the skills lacking. Without those qualities it would be impossible and detrimental to hiring something unwilling to change for the business even if they had the skills.

You made the correct decision imo.

TheNewAge2147 · 2019-04-17T03:55:32+00:00

She on you!

turtleh · 2019-04-17T05:31:56+00:00

Thank you.

hakoonamatata9 · 2019-04-17T05:17:38+00:00

You are a filthy misogynist. /S

solwyvern · 2019-04-17T11:45:11+00:00

Humility is something I've never heard in most female employees

spirtualstate · 2019-04-17T14:13:07+00:00

This post gives me hope brother, it is difficult applying for jobs as a white man these days.

Edit for context - the fire brigade in my country (UK) is like over 90% white males and this sparked an absurd outrage under the guise of 'diversity' I mean, do you really care about the gender or race etc of the person who is rescuing you from a burning building or a car wreck? As a result of this controversy, women and ethnic minorities were guaranteed an interview.

I passed all the tests/physicals and my medical but was turned down at the last hurdle. I consistently finished in the top 3 for almost all the physical tests. For context, one of the tests involved hauling a 30kg dummy (66lbs) around roughly the size of a tennis court - in order to simulate a casualty evacuation. Very few of the female trainees could even get the dummy moving, If you think about it, a typical sized man is likely to be at least double that weight, perhaps even three times. Yet, these women also advanced to the next stage.

This PC madness is going to cost lives.

yahyanime · 2019-04-17T00:51:16+00:00

Our society already makes living as a man far harder than living as a women. You did the right decision hiring him. I hope both of your work relationship will be good and productive.

shatterthecrystal63 · 2019-04-17T01:00:12+00:00

I'm far from an expert by any means, but I do believe you made the right choice. We don't know the struggle that gentleman went through to even get the chance to sit in an interview with you.

And personally, as a former member of the service, I can appreciate someone who puts work before "hurt feelings". There is no time, to be worrying about how you hurt my feelings because you said 'fuck' when you asked me to toss you a spare magazine in the middle of a firefight, and now I'm offended.

Take that with a grain of salt. I'm willing to bet more of us would be behind your decision.

jrpark05 · 2019-04-17T04:53:38+00:00

Actually, it looks like he would be the best hire. Obviously works hard doing manual labor while going to school at night, and was straightforward (will not BS you and tell you what he thinks you want to hear) and humble (learned from years of failure and success). He'll probably be making more money in this position, and with the type of work will be hungry to succeed.

PorkBomber · 2019-04-17T10:43:34+00:00

The women; they both recently graduated university with stupid degrees (think art or history etc)

Which country are you from? Because in my country, a person is generally not even eligible to apply for jobs like business analyst with that kind of degrees.

Nis_law · 2019-04-18T19:34:27+00:00

I am really glad someone else shares my opinion. I wonder if you are sharing this selection criteria with anyone else though. It can be devastating professionally if you disclose it to anyone.

Some other things i take into account while dealing with potential female employees:

If they are in a relationship (90% of the women are) , they can get pregnant anytime and will take maternal leave for a year while you again invest resources to replace her train someone else, only for her to get back and take her position back. (too much hassle imo) .
Volatile environment because of all the false sexual harassment accusations going on. Bloomberg published an article titled "Wall Street Rule for the #metoo movement : Avoid women at all costs"
Under stress men perform better than women, Harvard study says. Link : http://gap.hks.harvard.edu/under-pressure-gender-differences-output-quality-and-quantity-under-competition-and-time-constraints
A newly married male would be willing to work hard and do overtime than a newly married/pregnant female because she has to take care of her children.
Because of #4 i have personally seen more men pulling off overnighters at work more so than women.

mynameisnotbilliam · 2019-04-17T03:23:29+00:00

I don’t think you’re correct... Hiring someone isn’t just about what papers they hold. It’s about their attitudes and how they’ll fit into the dynamic of the team. If you thought the man would be a better fit, then you did hire the best person for the job. That’s how you should hire everyone

The only thing I would question is- do you have implicit biases against women and are therefore more likely to see them as whiny and entitled? Even if not everyone agrees that they are?

That said though- even if that was the case, you probably shouldn’t hire them then because you’re not going to enjoy the situation, and they’re probably not going to either. Best to work on those ‘issues’ outside of the work place. You want work to be as enjoyable as possible

oldman_stone · 2019-04-17T03:48:31+00:00

sounds like I would have done the same, Even if the man has some hardship. He sounds like He is going to work his but off and try to make his time worth your time. Then Be happy he got the chance to prove his worth.

To many times have I ben screwed over where i out performed every one I am talking makeing 1000+ parts per week made just to let go for some bs politics...

CodeDaniel · 2019-04-17T04:17:13+00:00

Right call!

garebear19959 · 2019-04-17T04:20:55+00:00

You a real one.

TheTruthIsAVirus · 2019-04-17T04:40:27+00:00

You did the right thing.

cunuc · 2019-04-17T04:45:30+00:00

So you dont get to hire whothefvck ever you want in your country ? I would close my business long before i let it ran by people i hate like thieves or nondecent types.

Banner248 · 2019-04-17T04:58:21+00:00

I love you OP!

MegaAlphadon · 2019-04-17T05:20:00+00:00

You shouldn't have phrased it like this, it can just be used as an example of teh evil patriarchy by isolating parts of what you said out of context.

In reality this was still a full example of proper merit-based decision making. A person's attitude and behaviour is one of, if not the, most important thing when investing in someone as a long term employee. You didn't pick the man despite being "less qualified", you simply valued personality over credentials. That's still a form of merit.

Shinkao · 2019-04-17T05:23:04+00:00

I really hope this becomes more prevalent. Otherwise I see no future for myself to be honest. I get constantly shafted because of diversity quotas and you honestly made the smartest decision.

That guy is going to be the most loyal af worker you could want. At least I'd be.

Lucius_Faust · 2019-04-17T05:27:06+00:00

Man, you made a good choice, on base of responses of question you provided. You're a senior VP level manager and you want your President or whoever is your boss to show, that work is done. Job is a job and not a some kind of drama theater. So with lack of proper experience or education in your field, I can clearly see that this guy you hired is most qualified only by his character.

And for meritocracy, look in that way. I don't know in what kind of company you work, but judging by that you were looking for junior business analyst, I bet that art degree and history degree are useless at your job (ah...you even mentioned it as stupid degrees). So by education they were all on the same ground, which is none. You needed (as you mentioned) to hire someone, so you didn't have an option too look for other people, who are more qualified. So without that, you made your choice based upon your judgement of characters of each candidate, which lead you for your choice. Pure logic or so I think. No need to feel sorry for that :)

Mathiya · 2019-04-17T05:27:39+00:00

Besides you'll get more years off the dude, hee's got grit. He'll happily put in overtime in sacrifice of he's social life, where as the women will prolly fall prego a couple of times and they'll be damned to sacrifice their social lives for overtime on the job.

MachenSie · 2019-04-17T05:38:14+00:00

Good man. I'm on the other side... I've been a BA for about 8 months now, coming from a completely unrelated role (IT support - very little on paper). I like to think I have a similar work ethic - leave the BS for when the work is done. I was also given that 'chance' and even though it's a completely different world, you've given someone an honest chance at a much better life, financially and from an achievement perspective. I saw my first project go live last week. Great feeling and I'm sure your guy will experience it too - and appreciate it!

Morphs_ · 2019-04-17T06:21:15+00:00

Actually I think you hired the most qualified person. The guy didn't waste time on a shitty degree that would have inflated a sense of entitlement.

The women were all about their "packaging" on the outside. Looks good on paper, but once you pop the hood and ask some questions, it's a bad deal. Good question about dealing with difficult people. When they start talking about emotions right off the bat you know they're going to be trouble.

Meanwhile, the janitor will be grateful for the position, and if needed you can correct him on stuff in a man's way, which is without fluffy words to prevent feelings from being hurt.

exile09 · 2019-04-17T06:42:42+00:00

The office I work in is 85% women and things there go as you'd expect. I'd be so grateful if I was part of an all-male team.

edit: Now that I think about it, me and the rest of the few men NEVER had any drama going on. Obviously there were some discussions because it's impossible to always agree, but never any drama. The women though, there's ALWAYS some drama going on and they try to reel us men in too by sharing their gossip. Then they get pissed off if you politely tell them that you arent interested...

thatzombieoverthere · 2019-04-17T06:52:36+00:00

worth ethic

Not sure if this was a typo but I will use this phrase from now on.

unblackmailable · 2019-04-17T07:07:11+00:00

This is HOPE! Hope that the current state of affairs will be unmasked.

Freezemeister7895 · 2019-04-17T07:40:22+00:00

Good choice. I work in HR (pharmaceutical industry) and deal with entitled young people quite often. Some have ridiculous expectations, and in general our team is about 65% female. They get payed very well for starters and might get wrong ideas, so a down to earth guy like you describe with more actual life experience is often the better choice.

I have had bad experiences with women and men. The situtation you describe seems like a good call. I almost always prefer people who pulled themselves up and basically were already working and self suficient in university. These things you cannot learn in theory. They dont take anything for granted and now their worth, and more importantly, they acknowledge that they have to learn a lot and push themselves. And honestly, here some ladies, mainly from eastern europe take the cake (I work in Germany, plenty of people from ex-Soviet states come to work/live here). They already got a PhD at 32, are married and have kids. I really like those types in business, very motivated and driven. Be careful if they did not marry and had kids yet - because that will happen and the job obviously takes 2nd place. More so if their SO is already earning more, which he is likely to make if such a woman chose him and he is equally capable.

I rarely get CVs from people with academical background who did not do some form of "work and travel". I always ask how they can afford something like this. If the answer is unsatisfactory, or parents payed, thats a red flag for me. Dont get me wrong, can be a worthwhile experience, but I cannot understand why so many people see it only in a positive light. Why does a barely 30 year old need some time off when he or she just finally reached the starting line? Get ahead with actual work experince, will be very worthwhile down the line.

They guy you describe should be very thankful and motivated, but sometimes they forget what an oppurtunity they got. But those types can be brought back on track, while those elitist types take everything for granted and grow resentful, and change the company, which is bad. So the chance at a loyal employee is much higher with the guy you described.

Lemaymaygentlesir · 2019-04-17T07:57:03+00:00

Good decision

TheTastelessBatman · 2019-04-17T07:59:34+00:00

I only hire men in my company. Revenues have never been this good since I took over.

Bokyja · 2019-04-17T09:11:08+00:00

This is my ultimate fear when working with whamen. Working in tech industry and the be forced to work or hire woman, its fucking scare the shit out of me. No matter what i do, who knows what the fuck this bitches will come up and metoo'd me.

Hire guys and train them. When that company starts to grow and get traction, well then you should worry about hiring woman and the forced diversity bullshit.

AndroidMetroid · 2019-04-17T09:46:54+00:00

you made the right choice. now redpill him so he doesn't waste his hard earned money on a cunt.

2019-04-17T11:01:17+00:00

I don't hire women.

Fantoche_Dreemurr · 2019-04-17T11:29:29+00:00

How is meritocracy a bad thing?

Gravy_Gecko · 2019-04-17T11:47:48+00:00

Sounds like you avoided a few potential HR headaches in the future.

Smart man. Also, it doesn't seem like you hired the least qualified applicant at all. It seems like the only thing the others had over him were fancier degrees, which frankly are a detriment considering today's modern college landscape.

cleats4u · 2019-04-17T11:57:36+00:00

Women are herd creatures and they band together. Then they want more of each other to "feel" safe. And God help you if you ever fire a queen bee. If you work in a corporation even if your the VP the entire HR dept is there to promote diversity and avoid government investigations. One complaint to the EEOC gets the government in your building and it employee's lots of women with a chip on their shoulder. Not surprisingly the EEOC will call in the IRS (seems to be accounting problems at this company), then you get to meet the DOJ. And all of this gets avoided if you just replace some senior administration with a female and her art or music degree. Play ball the government chick in the pin stripe suit says. This is what is going on in the corporate HR department which is the police department at any corporation. Even the CEO can't control it or he will be metoo'd.

SeniorMafia · 2019-04-17T12:13:50+00:00

You're the man brother!!!

JudgementalChair · 2019-04-17T13:02:23+00:00

You made the right choice. Company culture is often over-looked in the hiring process. It's better to go for someone who may not be as "qualified" that will fit in and be able to train, rather than someone who is "qualified/ over-qualified" who is a real bitch and pisses everyone off. One shitty new-hire can have a severe impact on company morale.

Jonlife · 2019-04-17T13:10:19+00:00

Yep, you made the right choice. That man is going to be there when you need him to burn the midnight oil. Women call into work, they get sick often. They are lazy to put it bluntly, compared to a man. We get paid mkre because were willing to stay later, work longer, under pressure. We know how to deal with pressure compared to a woman.

This is all factual. It has been proven over and over again. The only reason women were allowed into the work force is because it allows more people to be taxed. That's it.

robowriter · 2019-04-17T13:14:36+00:00

Worked in R&D in the largest companies for a very long time and 10/10 times men dominate successful creative and techncial efforts.

A person that driven will work hard for you. I know I was that person once, but more pathetic and desperate yet a friend gave me a break. How loyal will the entitled candidates remain when you need them to come through?

You hired the best candidate.

Gregor__Mortis · 2019-04-17T13:50:25+00:00

Every women I've worked with has issues being consistent. They all have the capacity to be good, some even great, at their job I never knew who was coming to work any given morning. Was it my hard working smart coworker? Or a child who somehow forgot basic job skills over the last twelve hours.

This more than anything else is why I don't hire women.

_STD_free_ · 2019-04-17T13:56:17+00:00

As a manager, it is YOUR WORK to analyze what is best for business. Don't have to justify yourself, good choice or not. It was the right choice though.

I5zq3iuyfI · 2019-04-17T13:57:57+00:00

I'm going to do some hiring soon as well. I like your approach, I think the reasoning is sound and I don't even mean the aspect of avoiding potential problems with female employee, but the aspect of hiring hard worker, who was honest on the interview and whose ego isn't bigger than it should be. Good job!

NoCharism · 2019-04-17T14:00:54+00:00

You did the right thing!

Those women could have also just get pregnant 1-2 years after they got the job and you would find yourself without a partner

Women are not made for the workplace, thats why they have the babies

thynic · 2019-04-17T14:20:02+00:00

attitude is more important than skills, because they are hard to change, you did the right choice man

MuleFool42 · 2019-04-17T14:39:49+00:00

I've had similar experiences in hiring. Not so much sliced by gender, but definitely I've hired less experienced people that I could train rather than more experienced people who already thought they knew what was up and had ideas about changes, not having done the job.

It's sometimes easier starting with a blank slate, depending on the job. Anyone acting entitled, like they're doing me a favor by interviewing, I usually didn't hire. Instead, I'd hire the person who had to work hard to get where they were and who hadn't had anything handed to them.

LastOpinion · 2019-04-17T14:40:55+00:00

As a man, I vouch for the man you hired.

HonkHonkBaby · 2019-04-17T14:48:34+00:00

Got my own business, so I can't get metood. And I would most definitely hire a hot secretary, just for the possilibity of a quick fuck.

largepaycheckaddict · 2019-04-17T15:05:10+00:00

Sounds like meritocracy played out here. You deemed the man as more worthy for the position based on his interview and past credentials.

In today’s world, college degrees don’t mean jack shit. I just graduated from art school (go ahead, laugh.. I am extremely passionate about painting and if an art career doesn’t work for me I am not above doing other work to make ends meet).. college is a joke. It’s a day care center for adults today and the spoiled daughters of the upper middle class degenerated it to its current conditions.

So in today’s world, I would hope employers weigh real life experience against simple pedigrees like having a bachelors from a “prestigious “ private school.

zelfone85 · 2019-04-17T16:19:29+00:00

College is no guarantee of success or luck. Im loving OPs post not because of him hiring a man over the female job candidates, but because college education without real life experience creates a terrible sense of entitlement. Im a blue collar guy now, but i spent a lot of time after college pursuing a marketing career in Manhattan, and all of the MBA and new college grads were so arrogant and fake. I couldn’t stand it being around it.

I advise people in my family to learn an actual skill with which to pay bills with and spend some time earning and learning what its like to manage life before going to school and taking on a huge amount of debt for a degree that likely wont end up paying off in the long run

Stunner900 · 2019-04-17T16:49:49+00:00

The women is more of a liability now with the #metoo culture. You saved yourself a headache.

andreas-mgtow · 2019-04-17T17:30:37+00:00

He spent the last 4 years working as a janitor in the evenings and attending school fulltime.

Of the 3 candidates, he is probably the only one that performed a correct ROI analysis and worked to get through school vs. accruing debt through loans.

You chose wisely.

cypresstalker · 2019-04-17T17:33:57+00:00

as someone trying to get this exact position.. what do you look for in a candidate?

supermario218 · 2019-04-17T17:37:48+00:00

"I ask the person to speak privately and express how their comments hurt my feelings and its not appropriate"

I find that fascinating. According to her comment, for a woman, a "difficult person" = "inappropriate/personally offensive". That speaks volumes. Difficult people are a part of life. They have their own thing going on, sometimes they have abrasive styles, odd personalities, bad days, bad lives. Yet this women managed to twist it so that the difficult person was attacking her. And that was the only situation she could contrive, or at least the first hypothetical situation that came to mind. One could even go as far as to say she was projecting her own behavior patterns in this imagined situation, and in some manor recognizes that when she is "being difficult" she is often inappropriate and offensive. And it is already well known that women snipe each other mercilessly in workplaces.

There are many situations of having to interact with and deal with difficult people, my knee jerk reaction would be to either avoid them as necessary, examine my own actions (to see if I instigated something), or adjust my own style so that the work can be done. I don't have to like you, but we do have to work together.

JohnPerera · 2019-04-17T18:24:20+00:00

//the women gave me the answer of "I ask the person to speak privately and express how their comments hurt my feelings and its not appropriate" //

Sir you just avoided the future #MeToo.

NapalmSunshine · 2019-04-17T19:49:25+00:00

Despite your admission of discrimination here... You gave that guy a shot that he may not have otherwise gotten. I hope it goes well for him. And for you.

since25jan2019 · 2019-04-17T20:51:39+00:00

If either of the women call back to find out why they didn't get the position, will you give us an update?

bradford342 · 2019-04-17T21:02:36+00:00

I actually had an HR class recently and apparently you can discriminate against hiring people on any grounds including gender if you have 15 or less workers.

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Adast_Adamov · 2019-04-18T05:34:24+00:00

I was just recently searching for an IT job and noticed that all HRs were females! People that don't know anything about programming are hiring programmers... Does it even make sense?

PimpinAce175 · 2019-04-18T06:35:23+00:00

my brother hired a guy who worked in a grocery store for a engineering job over entitle women, best decision they made yet.

Banincoming · 2019-04-20T18:00:56+00:00

You are hiring the most qualified person by hiring the man. Is the man going to demand pregnancy leave for 6 months of every year? Is the man going to sue the company for sexual harassment?

Danterahi · 2019-04-20T23:55:55+00:00

Regardless of gender I would definitely hire the janitor in this situation. The janitor clearly had much more drove and ambition. The janitor seems to have more innate potential.

Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits · 2019-04-17T05:13:38+00:00

From the description you gave you made it sound like you gave the job to the most qualified candidate. Just because you didn't prioritize the women doesn't mean you prioritized the man.

wilykily · 2019-04-17T11:51:03+00:00

You won't regret it. All guys on here that are in a position to hire people take notes from this guy.

carlodelmazo · 2019-04-17T14:28:42+00:00

Hey man, I been it the position of the janitor doing my best to reach higher, my ex boss spot me and helped me to move to work in U.K. and got an internship with him even if I was working for little and have to keep studying finishing my degre while working full time, I’m very helpful for how some bosses really help some people with less qualities, then he helped me and advised me to get into my masters degree here in U.K. in advanced engeineering, I would never be able to pay and be grateful enough for how he gave me the opportunity to become a successful professional.

Hard days but now the future seems brighter than ever, hope everything goes well in your bussines and he becomes successful as well.

Hallitsijan · 2019-04-17T08:20:00+00:00

It's the right choice, even regardless of gender. If someone's work ethic and behaviour are a poor match for the company, it will cause serious damage on the long run even if their technical skills are fine.

If someone has the right mentality and ethic though, then the lack of job skills can easily be taught on the workfloor.

Personally, I don't think it's right to describe the man as the 'least qualified' in this case.

Title	Hiring Women?
Author	ZeroMGTOW00
Upvotes	842
Comments	196
Date	April 17, 2019 12:35 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/be1fsm/hiring_women/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/hiring-women.481324 https://theredarchive.com/post/481324

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