White knight beta I was helping turned against me and sent screenshots to the girl

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April 4, 2018

Long story short, there is this absolute beta in my social circle. He was struggling particularity with one girl he clearly had oneitis for

He had gotten mad because well he had found out the truths of female hypergamy and that little miss angel wasn’t an angel as he thought and this drove him crazy and he couldn’t even sleep, he was hurt

So he comes to me for advice and I keep it 100% with him. Some of the texts I sent him were along the lines of

“ I don’t give a shit about her, she’s irrelevant and you care too much about her, that’s the problem”

“ a hoe is gonna be a hoe, if you don’t like her choices then find a better girl “

“ there’s nothing special about her, she’s just another fucking girl”

“ she’s probably getting fucked right now, find a girl and do the same and stop texting me about her “

“ you’re paying a high price for what many guys before you have gotten for free “

What does he do ? He takes screenshots and send them all to the girl.

I go to school with this girl and we have to interact on a weekly basis.

What is this going to do to our relationship? This same girl was also previously into me before

Your thoughts are appreciating

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Title White knight beta I was helping turned against me and sent screenshots to the girl
Author swimminginblue
Upvotes 74
Comments 96
Date 04 April 2018 07:10 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/653
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/89naml/white_knight_beta_i_was_helping_turned_against_me/
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[–]mrpthrowa172 points173 points  (8 children) | Copy

If you play it right, this girl will want your dick.

Keep frame. Smirk if she confronts, which is highly unlikely

[–]Arhamzubair23 points24 points  (4 children) | Copy


It depends on how you play it OP. Provide updates when available.

[–]Scheme006 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, he showed how a man should really act. She may play “upset” but her panties are all wet for sure.

[–]swimminginblue[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

How should I play it ? I’m still in a state of shock that he went ahead and did this backstabbing shit

[–]Arhamzubair8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, it's above. Amused Mastery. DON'T BREAK FRAME. And you'll be in her pants soon enough

[–]swimminginblue[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the input, I learned my lesson man, I thought I was helping but “ don’t talk about TRP” has its merits

[–]Praecipuus104 points105 points  (8 children) | Copy

What is this going to do to our relationship?

“ I don’t give a shit about her, she’s irrelevant and you care too much about her, that’s the problem”

[–]swimminginblue[S] 12 points13 points  (7 children) | Copy

In regards to the fact that we basically are in the same social circle in college

[–]Zebleblic48 points49 points  (3 children) | Copy

Who cares. If she brings it up just tell her it's the truth and to get over it. If she keeps bringing it up tell her to piss off and quit being a baby.

Either she won't talk to you because of what he sent, or she could tell your other friends and try to turn them against you, or she doesn't give two fucks and just ignores it, or she doesn't care and still wants some dicking.

And if your friends turned against you, tell them all to piss off and find some better friends. You are way too worried about this.

[–]Praecipuus23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

If she brings it up just tell her it's the truth and to get over it. If she keeps bringing it up tell her to piss off and quit being a baby

I wouldn't even engage in that conversation.

Ignore / agree and amplify / pressure flip / whatever

Any acknowledgement he makes of her claim will only serve as fuel for her to reinforce her belief of what a good topic to have an emotional fuss about she had just brought up.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Ricklogical 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Tell her, her behavior dictated these reactions, specifically towards this other person.

If she doesn't get it she wont. She can be offended all she wants, but you were simply countering his imagined fluff with your imagined demonized version of her trying to cut him off from the idiocy of treating her like an angel.

There is no fair, takers take and givers give. People don't really change. She sounds like a taker and he sounds like a giver.

Don't help saps.

[–]UncleChido3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no fair, takers take and givers give. People don’t really change...

This is pure gold. Would take it to heart. Thanks brother.

[–]acenumber9024 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you can bang her and show him the picks , thats gonna be hella fun

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen117 points118 points  (15 children) | Copy

That's what you get for talking about fight club. Get your helper syndrome in check and take care of yourself instead of trying to teach chumps before you even know what to do yourself.

[–]swimminginblue[S] 10 points11 points  (11 children) | Copy

I learned, just wanted to help out someone I thought was a friend, he was suffering hard it was tough not to

[–]FrogTrainer34 points35 points  (5 children) | Copy

This is the kind of shit you share with a friend while sitting on barstools at a local dive. Not over text messages.

[–]flatox12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can we please get back to fucking 2018? Of course people text their (assumed) bros shit like this if they ask for help.

[–]FrogTrainer-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, if you're a teenager.

[–]swimminginblue[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good point, however I did not expect him to turn against me in a hopeless effort just to get this girl to like him

[–]thewayitmustbe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Rule 2: never put too much trust in friends.

[–]cryptokeizer5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The issue was texting. Helping out your friends with trp knowledge when you deem them worthy is fine. As long as it isn't recorded in any way, shape or form.

[–]leaveitaloneitsfine 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

i think what you did was admirable, and your friend may end up connecting the dots down the road because of what you did. tell me, what was the consequence to all of this? some girl knows you're not a cuck? somebody thinks you're an asshole? some neckbeard with a badge on a forum thinks you have helper syndrome? who gives a shit.

[–]EvanPetersDouble0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Neckbeard with a badge. Totally laughed it out.

[–]Merwebb2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Now you know better

[–]swimminginblue[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Learned the hard way

[–]D0wney 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

While I agree with the first part and disagree with the second. Seemed like OP gave solid answers/advice to the kid.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

He is posting here to ask question for fuck's sake.

[–]BPasFuck4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bingo. OP knows just enough to get himself in trouble, and come running to asktrp.

Solution? Keep your mouth shut.

OP, your friend's whining was a solicitation for sympathy, not advice.

The best thing you can do in a similar situation is say 'That sux' and then go dark. Quit responding if in text, leave the room/change the subject if in person.

[–]FuckboyAWALT30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

I guess you learned your lesson.

Be firm to her and actually do what you told him to do, not giving a fuck about her.

She is probably wet by now, you owe the whiteknight a beer for wingmanning you.

[–]swimminginblue[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks my man, I learned my lesson however

[–]Mostass31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

“ you’re paying a high price for what many guys before you have gotten for free “


Just Fuck.

That's gold.

[–]ShotgunTRP4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking poetry. Shakespeare couldn’t write that shit

[–]karkyflarky19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

He fucked himself more than he did you. Ditch the dead weight. he's is untrustworthy and will not allow you to help. You tried to do him a favour and he thought he could try and stab you in the back. In reality there might even be a chance you may be the one getting the girl If that is what you want. But please just forget about the beta he will learn you were right along and that is the best advice you could ever have given him. But it all depends how easily offended the girl is.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

A. He's DEAD to you, now. DEAD, DEAD, DEAD.

B. You proceed as if nothing happened. If she raises it, simply say that you had to talk to WanKer in a language he would understand, to snap him out of hie weird obsession with her.

C. Continue life at Lvl 99 DGAF.

D. Remember, for the future, this is why we DO NOT help out Timmy BlooperBetaPussyFags. They will flip on you the second they think it gives them some advantage.

E. If you want to torture him, at some point ask him if he's getting pussy off of her now that he sent screenshots.

[–]ReddJive15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well.... follow your own damn advice

[–]swimminginblue[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are right, thanks for the input

[–]stinjoshua10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Come on man, you should have known better. Never incriminate yourself. Let this be a lesson to everyone reading. Those text messages are better said face-to-face where you can have deniability. You gotta look after yourself first.

[–]chunkycolors17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Does it really matter that she was into you before? lol. Are you asking about the relationship between you and the girl or you and the white knight

[–]Gozsayin17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was confused about this. Dude smash this chick then send him the pics that will shut him up. May lose a friend though

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Me and the girl since we are in the same social circle

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well where’d you get the info that she was a ho? Personal experience, word of mouth, etc?

Or better yet, what’s a realistic way you could explain to her why you think that?

“Yeah that’s what White Knight was telling me about you so I gave him advice accordingly”

The texts you included in here aren’t really all that damning. Just spin them right.

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She’s probably pissed as hell and simultaneously turned on by you right now. Sounds like you should make her another plate. That’s will also show you’re beta faggot “friend” how to be a man. Cut that asshole out of your life.

[–]NotAThrowAway56789104 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

What do you mean she was into you? Do you sit next to her in class and let her borrow your pens? Or have you been texting logistics and meeting up outside of school?

If it is the former, don’t pay attention to her and continue gaming other women. If it is the latter, this could be an opportunity in disguise in the form of dread game. You will need to read the situation and find out if she is still attracted to you. If she confronts you directly about it, don’t give her a straight answer. Let the hamster do the work for you.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dude is telling his friend not to worry about her, she's just some ho, go bang other girls, now he's worried that she isn't into him any more? Wtf is that?

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

No, I was worried because she is in my social circle and the threat of what she would do with the information he sent her ( turn other people against me, tell her orbiters about it etc )

[–]TitsAndWhiskey0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's some high school bullshit right there

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And we’re in college unfortunately

[–]Docbear646 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

You need to learn how to better judge the people you share information with and how you present it to him . A guy who doesn't have a shot at a certain pussy is throwing you under the bus to ingratiate himself to the pussy? Color me shocked /sarcasm .

He didn't have a chance and as right as you were that straight talk bullshit will get you in trouble with 95% of the population . Hoes will be hoes but there's a time, place, and type of person to share the fact that they are a hoe with .

Good luck I wanna say this will work out for you but this feminazi bullshit makes me nervous for you , all she has to do is copy one of those pics to some social media platform and she will make your life more difficult because you decided to help out some beta piece of shit pussy .

[–]swimminginblue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I learned my lesson fuck

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Chalk it up as a lesson learned.

  1. You can lead them to water but you can’t make them drink. Why lead some dumbass backstabber to your water source in the first place? There’s just some things you can’t and shouldn’t share with people.

  2. Staying friends with losers like this will haunt you til the end of the relationship. Guys like this don’t understand merit, honor, or brotherhood.. they’re like little smeaguls (LOTR character) who will turn on you the second they see a reason to do so. If it’s not snitching on you to a chick about something you said, it will be them snitching to the police about how you have weed in the car when you get pulled over together. These dudes are like a poorly assembled pipe bomb waiting to blow up and injure you.

  3. Alpha always wins. She’ll probably just think he’s a dickless weak bitch for trying to sabotage your rep if she’s not some feminist psycho. She’ll see you were just trying to help your friend and as a result probably be more turned on by you by having those offensive thoughts of you in her head. Look at how liberal college students can’t get trumps name out of their mouths.

Overall, don’t let it affect you. I say ignorant shit around women a lot and they just laugh and think it’s funny if they’re not uptight.

[–]osirise4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

While some of these lines were hilarious and I’m sure satisfying to send. (I got a good laugh out of “you’re paying a high cost for what many before you have gotten for free.” Lol damn) you have to learn to control yourself and keep your mouth shut.

Re-read the 48 laws of power.

Also saying stuff about people you wouldn’t say to their face is just a low quality trait to have. There’s a lot of things you could’ve said that would’ve gotten the point across, while simultaneously raising your SMV, when your beta friend inevitably screenshoted the convo.

I’m sure things will be awkward with the girl now but it’s a good lesson to learn.

[–]BlackMisc2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dont teach trp like this. just the next guy you give advice to things like actions: Act disinterested, be cocky, Agree and Amplify. but dont tell em the core truths behind these actions.

[–]Morphs_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, all the swearing and hoe calling is just unneeded, only creates problems. OP should punch that beta friend of his in the face, hard.

[–]GucciGangBucks2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m going to take a different route on this one. But you should for no reason ever talk behind someone’s back. It’s he easiest way to get caught up especially in text. Even if everything you said is true all talking about through text in the long run does is leaves you open to be exposed. Id never associate with the beta snitch ever again. I’d also learn the lesson to never send ppl you don’t trust text that could possibly hurt you.

[–]PhaedrusHunt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck the girl, get her to text you dirty shit, and don't screenshot it but show it to the Orbiter.

Also, this is why there's a first rule to fight club.

STOP TRYING TO RED PILL OTHER DUDES. If a guy is being beta just make fun of him.

OP, cast ye not your pearls among swine lest they be trampled in the mud then the swine turn around and rend you.

That's a story from the Bible but it is EXACTLY what happened to you. Beta Orbiter is the swine. You trying to help him was throwing him pearls. He didn't take your advice. Then he went after you.

[–]DMMDestroyer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You challenged the fabricated reality society pushed on him since childhood. Obviously, he retaliated to protect that reality. Once you've shown people bitter truths/reality/how things are, they either "resist" or embrace. You planted the seed. He'll regret it later when he won't have a choice but to face things for how they really are. All do, eventually; inevitable.

[–]RandyBumgardner852 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I read a post almost identical to this one not long ago. Will you kids never learn?

The beta is your not you friend! He's a shifty, devious, weak little shit who uses underhanded, dishonest means to get what he wants. Women see this and are repulsed. Trying to reason with one of these fucktards is like trying to push atheism on a bible basher.

You have given him, in writing, the opportunity to (in his mind) signal his virtue and loyalty to this hoe and wipe out the competition in one swoop. Obviously this won't get him anywhere but it's unnecessary drama for you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

you only help those who are willing to be free...

[–]hibloodstevia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should do anything you can do to fuck this girl, and then toss her dirty panties in this faggets face.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What a little faggot

[–]flatox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well what's the problem?

The chance of her confronting you? lol.. "Oh well i wasn't aware that you really are special, please tell me more about why you're more special than X, or Y or Z (hot women)?"

[–]shubhidoobi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Be stoic, fuck her, let the beta regret.

[–]ethreax 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Dude you don’t even know rule #1. Why did you help him? Did he ask you?

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, he was a sad fucking case and it was getting annoying, she wanted nothing to do with him and I wanted him to get the point and find other girls

[–]1kick61 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to listen to the exact advice you gave your friend.

[–]BusterVadge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You were talking shit about someone behind her back and got called out on it. Don't say anything you wouldn't repeat in public to anyone who's not in your very small inner circle.

[–]wheresMYsteakAt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looks like you are about the bang this chick and honestly that's the best way to prove to him what you are telling him is correct. Thank him for it.

[–]128bitworm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Take your own advise. Nuff sed.

[–]monkey_typist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If someone isn't ready, don't give them the truths. Betas will run to women pointing finger at you to earn points.

You start slowly, and watch their reaction. If they don't come to the realization themselves, no amount of advice, or even if you could produce indisputable scientific evidence, will change their minds. Just look at the flat earthers.

Unless people are ready to accept new ideas, they are not. The default behavior of betas is you rat you out to their overlords to curry favor.

As for your relationship with her, maybe you can apologize and admit you crossed the line, but say you did because you were over-eager in helping out a friend. Promise you'll never do that again.

But really, it's not worth your time. Just shrug and move on. If your social group rejects you, find a new group. You're in college, if you can't make new friends now, you'll be screwed once you get out of college.

And your friend should be an ex-friend.

[–]leeroy1101 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The way I look at it. I point people in the right direction (this sub or the main one) and let them do their own reading and learning. The ones that are ready for that knowledge will thank you and incorporate it. The others won't get it.

[–]swimminginblue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now I know

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't talk about fight club.

[–]circlhat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hate post like this, not because it's bad but because you did a good thing and no good deed goes unpunished.

But here is the thing, I been helped by men before, When I was blue pill if you give me advice, I would of thank you for it, I guess that why I always been semi-successful with women even in my bluest of days, I could still get laid, not much, but I was no loser.

This guy is a loser, now the fall out, what you said isn't that bad and girls understand, Believe it or not most women get these things, and are quite open to TRP concepts.

“ she’s probably getting fucked right now, find a girl and do the same and stop texting me about her “

Yeah this guy just advertise your Alpha, he shot himself in the foot and made you look good

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh don't worry.

P.S. I'll be waiting for an update about how you fuck her and then tell the beta about it (or not, I'd personally like to tell him to see the look on his face).

[–]CutLiver1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eh, whatever. The dude's a little bitch. The girl might be a little offended, but who cares. You weren't talking shit about her... you were speaking some basic truths about women in general. In the future, it's best to keep this stuff to yourself for the most part and only ever bullshit about this with other guys who get it, and do it in person.

Bottom line - Girls don't like guys that worship them. It creeps them out. By him showing her this stuff, it only solidified that he's putting her on the pedestal. On the other hand, she knows you don't care that much about her just cuz she's a girl, which will only make her want you more. If she brings it up, just agree and amplify. If she gets offended don't try to defend yourself or backtrack. She knows you're right. If you're not interested in this girl sexually then idk what you're even worried about. People will think what they want to think about you. Life gets a lot easier when you stop caring.

[–]ppanthero1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean, the chances are not that bad that the girl is now into you even more. So probably you can fuck her if done right and if you want to.

However, she now has some “rude“ messages from you about her, which she can and may try to use against you in some kind of way. Helping a beta/white-knight usually doesn't work out they way we think. If they don't discover the truth by themselves, they won't believe it and they will rationalize into something like “you are a bad guy, i have to protect her and show her the texts...“

[–]CAPIreland0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If she confronts you about it, say that you were just trying to help him get over her, as he has a massive crush on her. Bury that fucker. Then play it normal and, now that there's drama, she might look at you as a potential. If you can, fuck her, and gloat to the friend.

[–]AstuteBlackMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She'll probably want to smash. Act like nothing's wrong. Just keep a good frame.

[–]pr3me0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You call other people betas and you ask questions like "how will this affect our relationship?" Are you fucking serious dude

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We’re in the same social circle, that’s what I meant

[–]GreasedLightning0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, you should have split it and went halfsies. /s

[–]sweetb00bs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It wont do anything. It makes your "friend" look bad.

[–]MikeAlphaGolf0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

“I do t give a shit about her. She’s a ho blah blah blah”

“Oh no she read my texts. What on earth will she think of me?”

Come on mate.

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was referring more to the fact that’s she’s in my social circle and what effect it would have ( get her other beta orbiters against me etc )

[–]BurnieSlander0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Confront head on. Grab your ex-friend by the throat and put him up against the wall.

Then I’d game this girl asap. She might hate you right now but if you approach her, act chill, DONT apologize, and use Amused Mastery, it’ll send her hamster into overdrive.

[–]gonzbjj0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How do you know he screenshot and sent this to her?

[–]swimminginblue[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

another one of her orbiters came up to me and told me, the guy pretty much told him what and why he did it ( to win favour ) i had suspected something was up since the guy I gave the advice to was acting very weird around me.

[–]gonzbjj1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should be nice to that guy and act like nothing happened. Make sure the girl sees you not being angry at him, that should get the hamster spinning

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, he handed it to you.

this only helps you as long as you handle it with a wink and a grin when you see her. you just earned SMV my friend.

anytime she brings it up be sarcastic and playful about “well sometimes you’re a dick, like me (wink) right??” and “ well I felt bad you made him cry! someone had to cheer him up”

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Who told you that he sent the screenshots to her?

OK, at any rate, send him one more text: "LOL, I guess you know that 'your girl' thinks that you're a faggot now, for showing her the screenshots like some bitch! It didn't work getting you laid, did it! LOLZZ."

Of course, never ever talk to him again.

[–]resnine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“ you’re paying a high price for what many guys before you have gotten for free “ hahahahaha aint that the truth!

Also who the fuck cares, you said it now own it. Don't say shit unless you mean it. Own every word you say, don't say shit behind people's backs if you aren't going to have the balls to say it to their face.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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