I've been spinning plates and hooking up with random girls and I don't like it.

TheRedPillRipper · 2020-06-04T02:05:45+00:00

TRP is amoral and offers a set of tools. Take the tools and you do you. Spinning plates is to create abundance mentality, which is necessary to circumvent blindness due to oneitis and see properly. Again it's a tool; use it as you please.

downvotesanimals · 2020-06-04T02:28:54+00:00

Dude, stop doing it if it's not making you happy. No need to get so delusionally RPd that you ignore your desires.

comcain · 2020-06-04T01:59:07+00:00

You do you.

There's a reason TRP recommends spinning plates at age 20. You should be focused on school, not LTR relationship drama. Get a gf if you like, but you sound like the sort of guy who falls hard for a girl and that may not end well. Oh, well, everyone has to learn sometime why there IS a Red Pill.

Have you read the sidebar? Are you lifting? Have you read The Rational Male?

By the way, the reason I'm smiling a little here is compared to some of the posts here, you're golden. "Oh I can't get a girl, I'm too short. OR too tall. OR ugly. OR bald. OR OR OR. "

Count your blessings that you're bored of too much meaningless sex, okay?

After university, it gets more difficult. So enjoy the plethora while you can.

By the way, college is concentrated smart girls. They have to take a test to get in, as did you. If you're looking for a gf, you're in the right place.

Either way, good luck, brother. It's hard feeling soul weary of the girls you fuck. Been there. Finally settled for a gf myself. I'm honestly not judging you.

Cheers

Gtrplyr3838 · 2020-06-04T03:20:05+00:00

Just because you can get girls doesn’t mean that you must get them. I had periods in college where I was on top of a woman thinking that I would have a better time drinking beer with my friends. Take a break and only go for the girls that really interest you.

mortalcoil1 · 2020-06-04T09:16:40+00:00

I have never been a plate spinner. My few ONS's have felt closer to masturbation than I like. What I do enjoy is the honeymoon stage of relationships. I also hate condoms. You could try serial LTR's. Get tested together, make sure she's on BC and she's faithful and have amazing honeymoon period sex where you can't keep your hands off of each other, and when it gets boring, end things amicably and move on.

Just a bit of advice, while TRP is amoral, you seem to have a moral code, and there are 2 things I live by.

Try to leave a girl better than you found her.
As tough as it can be, especially in 2020, don't ghost her if you want to break up. This will ruin all of the good karma built up from 1. Try your best to break up amicably. You would be surprised how many people handle an honest break up better than you think they will.

Just my 2 cents.

2020-06-04T02:33:39+00:00

Do what suits you. Follow your moral compass (and be glad you have one).

And there's a huge difference in being able to, and choosing not to, than not being able to, and either not doing or trying too.

SavorThePill · 2020-06-04T06:09:47+00:00

A recent phenomena in the manosphere consists of some figures going Godpill. Roosh V, Elliott Hulse, LFA (well, not really LFA, but he's been encouraging his viewers to keep the notch count low). These guys were dedicated to the redpill and had no qualms about gaining that carnal knowledge with legions of women. Roosh was probably the biggest proponent of living the playboy lifestyle.

For one reason or another, these guys have eschewed the notion of abundance with women. To interpret why broadly, I believe it has a lot to do with pair bonding. Evolutionary biology says that humans are naturally polyamorous, or at least serial monogamists...but behavioral psychology doesn't seem to support that. Emerging insights on people who have had multiple partners doesn't seem to support that either. What more people seem to be discovering is that having multiple partners may be psychologically damaging. Humans have a tendency to pair bond, so we put an amount of mental or even spiritual stock into our relations with others, especially if the relation pertains to fucking.

For many centuries, perhaps millennia, the institution of monogamy was the norm; now, it's appearing possible that our brains have a natural inclination toward monogamy that has been cultivated by the many years it was practiced...or maybe we've been socially conditioned to being monogamous via exposure to media, historical accounts, our own upbringings, etc. Whatever the case may be, I've been learning that monogamy is better for people--maybe not everyone, hard to say.

So, I'd say the life of sexing droves of women isn't for you. And I don't think it's for most people, despite what many will say. At worse, it's an addiction and a form of validation. The baseless quest for more women steers you away from your mission, and in your case, makes you feel like shit. I know, my position is antithetical to some of the ideology here on TRP--while the upper echelon have declared TRP's about sexual strategy, I've always found it to be about improvement and I'm sticking to that.

It sounds like you know what the answer is. Be it.

rumpleforesknn · 2020-06-04T02:46:17+00:00

TRP doesn't exclusively apply to spinning plates. It can effectively be implemented into LTRs with practice. If spinning plates isn't for you, then seek LTRs. Just be aware that you will need to be more mindful in a LTR as it's easier to slip out of frame and TRP principles over time in a LTR.

phisch13 · 2020-06-04T03:08:03+00:00

So don’t spin plates?

Imo, Number one principle from red pill is do whatever makes YOU happy.

Seems simple to me. I definitely go through phases where I genuinely don’t feel like spinning plates. So I just don’t for a while.

RPOpenUp · 2020-06-04T09:51:51+00:00

You should reconsider the way you view plates.

A lot of men on TRP think of plates as a disposable vagina that you bin after fucking. Nothing more nothing less And there's nothing wrong with this.

However spinning plates can also be used as a tool, not just to get sex, but to properly choose your relationships. TRP is not saying you shouldn't emotionally invest into women at all. It says you should seriously choose which women you emotionally invest into, cuz you know there's a lot of low quality women out there.

Try to view spinning plates as filtering out the good ones.

Good luck

winstrol · 2020-06-04T01:58:40+00:00

Stop fucking 5s & 6s. Game the 8+ stop playing yourself

Crixusgannicus · 2020-06-04T11:18:52+00:00

There is no "who you are" really. People assume "identity" is some permanent solid thing. It's not. It's a series of CHANGEABLE likes, dislikes, responses, actions and REactions. That includes your so-called conscience.

That's why education and advertising work. Propaganda (like feminazism) too.

Trance-World · 2020-06-04T02:24:56+00:00

Go monk mode for a while

thesoloronin · 2020-06-04T02:45:33+00:00

Good. Now keep doing it. Just goes to show you how powerful the Feminine Primary Social Order is when indoctrinated constantly through several generations.

TRP is an amoral set of tools, not unmalleable principles. Like money, you can use it for directly benign or indirectly malignant purposes.

RP_utiliser · 2020-06-04T03:46:02+00:00

Get on your purpose, having a gf who likely wont respect your time will deter you from your long term goals. You’re 20 and still have a long way.

trpthrowaway224 · 2020-06-04T05:55:04+00:00

Then the women aren't high quality enough for you

leotard-princess · 2020-06-04T09:20:23+00:00

Don't do it then.

JSJRB1492 · 2020-06-04T12:56:40+00:00

Read the Greek stoics and the Catholic Church Fathers. The world's greatest religion, Christianity, has the perfect answer for your problem.

Meaningless sex never gives you happiness. It empties you, and robs everything of its meaning.

The most attractive man I know is a 6'4 jacked super Catholic dude who dates a lot of hot girls but doesn't bed them. He actually redpills them and teaches them the virtue of chastity.

I'm a Catholic RedPill 19 year-old 6'3 very handsome dude who gets girls easily. I always ALWAYS struggle between the two paths: the narcissistic Casanova path or going down the true Christian man path. Sounds like you should think about it too.

Musicgoon · 2020-06-04T22:06:43+00:00

The idea of spinning plates is to create abundance and combat oneitis. It sounds like you're further along than most guys.

The idea isn't to get as many notches as you can. You can still be red pill aware and only have one relationship. Do what makes you happy. Just don't put a woman on a pedestal, prepare for and shut down drama, and be your own mental point of origin. Be ready to walk away at any moment.

I would say never stop flirting. You don't need to fuck every single girl, but keep your skills and game tight.

cockkksucker · 2020-06-04T04:26:00+00:00

get ur reps in dude ur still a kid, become a sex god

Normie5000 · 2020-06-04T04:26:52+00:00

God didn’t intend for us to sleep around

flyinghorse1 · 2020-06-04T05:11:55+00:00

Take a break. I was in the same position as you. I quit dating around a year ago and I'm happier. I'm just focusing on other goals and having fun seeing my pals. When I feel like dating again, I will.

Gawernator · 2020-06-04T05:46:20+00:00

Yeah that’s normal, not everyone is a degenerate. If you don’t like it then don’t do it. Pretty obvious

idontevenlift37 · 2020-06-04T06:26:06+00:00

I would use this time to work on yourself and do what makes you happy personally, that will be much more fulfilling than spinning a lot of plates. It’s true that your early twenties are great for spinning plates, but if you stay on your grind and build yourself up getting pussy won’t be much of a problem regardless of your age. If you desire only one girl then having an LTR is an option, just don’t succumb to oneitis, remember AWALT.

rprookie · 2020-06-04T06:34:06+00:00

Texas A&M?

Distractingyou · 2020-06-04T07:35:11+00:00

I think it just means you already spinned plates and you dont need to do it anymore i think any man should spin plates but for a period of time so he proves to himself he can otherwise he will always be condenmed to live a simp life so yh if i was you i would be happy to end it

spartan_samurai · 2020-06-04T07:38:21+00:00

Don't force yourself to spin plates if you don't feel like doing it. No one is gonna give you award for how many plates you have spinned.

The whole idea of spinning plates is to introduce you to the world of abundance so you don't catch oneitis for a girl.

And the man who have more options is always better than the person who have only one option.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2020-06-04T07:51:11+00:00

Yeah man I know the feeling. And it doesn’t even have to be a super serious relationship, just someone you get along with and have some connection with, rather than a total meaningless fuck. Just don’t get too emotionally invested or needy. But yeah go for quality, not quantity. Find a girl or two that you really vibe with and spend your time with just her/them. Eventually they may ask for exclusivity.

thatbadrogue2 · 2020-06-04T08:30:57+00:00

they call that marriage, young one

Kratom_Dumper · 2020-06-04T09:04:09+00:00

Do whatever you want to do, almost all guys that have been successful with meeting a lot of girls eventually gets tired of it and settles down.

KillaJewels · 2020-06-04T10:39:19+00:00

Do what you want to do. But just remember, you'll regret it later for not taking full advantage of your time and place in life rn. Keep sniping so you can improve yourself for later, when relationships become practical. In college, I would say relationships are NOT the way to go.

linkofinsanity19 · 2020-06-04T12:32:03+00:00

What u/menazich said was spot on. I'd like to add for your purposes what the utility is specifically.

Hooking up and spinning plates:

Gives experience interacting with, seducing, and handling women.
gives the aforementioned abundance mentality.
It is one of the most efficient ways of finding a woman for the long term since you are seeing multiple at one time. She stays a plate until she proves after sufficient time and screening that she has potential to be trained to be a good LTR. You also have an abundance mentality while screening and training her. Once you start training her, that is more investment on your part than a simple plate. With investment comes a risk of oneitis if you don't have abundance. We all know what oneitis does to women we actually want to be around. Then if she passes through training and doesn't have any major infractions going forward, you've got yourself a decent woman for you to have an LTR with.

Spinning plates is a Swiss Army knife of a tool. It can do a lot of things for you. It can be a means to an end like building experience, getting an LTR worthy woman, or getting over a particular girl, or it can be the end itself if you so choose.

DopeMeme_Deficiency · 2020-06-04T14:28:22+00:00

I feel you. Five years of TRP left me way more empowered, but also left me feeling kinda scuzzy. I felt dishonest, and even though they were dishonest too, it still bothered me. I too wanted to try LTRs again. Remember that you're the prize, a compromise is a compromise for both of you, not you bending to her will, you do nice things because you want to, not because she expects them.aintain frame, and don't allow emotions to rule the day. In the end the principal's of TRP are true, as are those in MGTOW. As others have told you, take the tools you can use, and put the rest aside for later. Keep in mind that if you invest emotionally, you're likely to get burned, and it hurts. Trying to find a good woman is harder than trying to find diamonds in kitty litter, but I believe in you. Good job at recognizing yourself and what you want. Keep doing you.

EdvardMunch · 2020-06-04T15:35:46+00:00

God this thing starts as self learning and eventually you end up babysitter for the new.

Do what you fucking want holy fucking shit.

MrTheFalcon · 2020-06-04T15:55:39+00:00

"The general consensus here" is not TRP. TRP is about embracing reality including an honest view of yourself, with stoic virtue. Body count has nothing to do with it. Abundance is a state and opportunity, but not one that you are required to engage.

Focus on school, and self-improvement. Allow women to be close if they support your ambition. You can reciprocate by supporting their goals as well. Sex will be the natural side affect of mutual admiration, and you will be happy.

If you follow this path, you may develop one-itis. Just remember that you are twenty, and you'll change a lot in the next 10-20 years. So will she. So even if she's a perfect match for you now, you'll both be very different in the future, and you'll both have FOMO if you're stuck together. So be intimate in the moment, but compartmentalize those feelings.

RaidenDark · 2020-06-04T17:58:17+00:00

The general consensus here is that I should be fucking as many girls as possible

At the risk of catching a ton of flak for this: that consensus is stupid. This is not red pill mentality, this is PUA mentality. I'm not impressed in the slightest with a high body count and you shouldn't be either. Far more impressed am I with the man who has a quality relationship with a quality woman. It takes a quality man to net a quality woman. Know what a high body count takes? Technique. Literally anyone can do it simply with the right know-how. It says nothing about your value - only your knowledge and how willing you are to lower your standards. Men with high body counts invariably fuck women far beneath them in order to get there. Personally, I am against the lowering of standards. I would rather stay celibate for years on end than fuck a woman who is beneath me.

There are a number of bad things that happen when you lower your standards. For one, the women you fuck develop artificially inflated standards. Second, your view of women is dragged down by all the garbage women you spend time with. Finally, your own self esteem plummets. This is a subconscious process that you have no control over. Remember what Jordan Peterson said about us and lobsters? We have a hierarchy tracking mechanism built in to the brain. It knows what we're doing and releases the appropriate chemicals to make us feel good or holds them back when it sees fit.

This is why you're not satisfied. Fucking lots of women is a meaningless pursuit that any idiot can do. There's no reason for you to feel good about it. A candy bar is great when you're starving. But when you've avoided sweets for a long time and eat healthy, the very idea of a sugary explosion like that is physically repulsive. I couldn't fuck a low quality woman if I tried. They disgust me. Doesn't matter how pretty she is when I can smell the daddy issues. My life doesn't revolve around pussy, it revolves around my purpose. I'll take it when it's worth it and only then.

alex_de_tampa · 2020-06-05T01:45:07+00:00

They will do it to you and not blink or think twice about it.

Guarnerre1995 · 2020-06-04T04:53:31+00:00

Doing something that isnt you is BETA imho. You fuck 0 women or 1000 women a year, if you dont like it who are you lying to? Yourself.

Youve tried, doesnt suit, time to move on and try something else

reallyphatty · 2020-06-04T02:23:07+00:00

hey man, iam in uni first year

just a question, how did you able to see this many girl in uni or where

IveSawitall · 2020-06-04T06:13:19+00:00

That is your bluepill mind fighting hard to claim its space, you are Rene the and still Very young.. it's normal to feel that way after you nut.. you want to give yourself permission to catch ONitis for that special unicorn?.. good luck. We'll be here for you when you come back broken and bitter.

2020-06-04T06:51:42+00:00

Purple pill for you my friend

Nightmare_Complex · 2020-06-04T09:05:42+00:00

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Title	I've been spinning plates and hooking up with random girls and I don't like it.
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Date	June 4, 2020 1:35 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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