Generational Shift in Body Preferences?

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July 10, 2020
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I’m an older dude (40s) and have been seeing a lot of progress pics where girls go from having really tight, fine bodies to working very hard to have big, bubble butts. They look weird and totally out of proportion to me. One in particular I saw recently, I thought the girl looked amazing in her before picture, her after picture I wouldn’t have an interest in her. I guess this is a result of having the Kardashians as “influencers” or whatever.

My question for the younger dudes, do you really think this looks good?


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Title Generational Shift in Body Preferences?
Author BaronIncognito
Upvotes 116
Comments 100
Date 10 July 2020 01:34 PM UTC (10 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/713100
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[–][deleted] 186 points187 points  (1 child) | Copy

Looks good if it is natural. Big ass, if proportional, is feminine. If it's unnatural, then no.

[–]getinthevan31534 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. It's all about proportions. The ideal average bust to waist to hip ratio has remained consistent throughout the ages. Fat chicks in old paintings still have the same ratios as models from the 90s. The fat part just meant you could afford to eat more, which was desireable a a sign of wealth.

[–]bert_cj72 points73 points  (3 children) | Copy

I never thought of it that way but yeah I think that’s what’s happening.

Big booties is the thing now. The natural ones look amazing. The surgically enhanced ones look awful, big butt cheeks with skinny skinny legs.

Edit: Idc if it’s surgically enhanced as long as it looks real. Thighs have to be proportionate to the ass. Looks ridiculous when girls have a huge ass and chicken legs. Demi Rose for example

[–]IAMNUMBERBLACK11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

There are an incredible amount of asses that look natural but were gifted by the Brazilian Butt Lift enhancement too though

[–]bert_cj6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Personally idc as long as it looks real. Some of these jobs are done so horribly, big ass cheeks with skinny legs it looks ridiculous

[–]Omardumet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looks and FEELS real...

[–]MGTOW_BEASTMODE18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy

The huge baboon bubble butt fad has to die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL7_ExegriE

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

In every concert and music video where the lead is a woman, the other female performers are always less attractive and has smaller tits and smaller ass. For a video of twerking, most of those girls have nothin to show off.

[–]MGTOW_BEASTMODE0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cheerleader effect.

[–]-since48 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dunno what's going on but I hate all fatties, and I'm pretty sure i'm attracted to objective indicators of health (aka a fit body....) which is like 10% of girls these days

[–]RedSkeller39 points40 points  (11 children) | Copy

30s guy here, definitely prefer thin women, maybe slightly toned but that's it. Kind of like a tiny jiggle to an ass that I can slap but not a map sized one. Nor do I find that hour glass shit, thicc girl garbage attractive. Honestly, if they have big arms exercise or not it's a turn off for me. And if a girl has any sort of gut, my dick inverses and goes into my body. Safe to say plenty of dudes are desperate for chubby women because there is no shame.

[–]imnotfredr16 points17 points  (10 children) | Copy

I hit a fat chick before. Never again. My dick went limp and was so confused, feel sorry for putting him through that.

[–]RedSkeller14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Same, my dick still brings up those dark nights when we get in an argument. First I got with a chick that was skinny fat, smoked had a great face and perfect smile (later found out she paid big $$ for), ends up looking like a bag of milk when we start fucking, and she reeks like a Wuhan fish market.

Second chick sort of the same story, super cute face and hides her gut under a few layers of cloths, nothing bad mind you but noticeable. Anyway got real drunk, ate a banana out of her purse and hit a strip club so she was cool and felt like I owed her one. Meanwhile, go back to her cats (no joke), and she starts scratching the shit out of my back, I'm actually bleeding at this point and she has skin of mine under her nails. She was bi (who isn't) and I was coming off a dry spell so I tried to make it work but she was miserable with life and sex was horrible. After that, I decided I'd rather wank it than order a chubber off tinder.

[–]CaribaLd18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy

ate a banana out of her purse

I'm fucking dying

[–]Rock_Granite6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm old. Translate that for me

[–]muricanwerewolf116 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it’s meant to be interpreted literally.

[–]CaribaLd9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I took it literally, I don't know what else it would be.

[–]SavorThePill10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm in my mid-20s and I don't even know. I'm taking it literally and finding it hilarious

[–]BriefcaseHead25 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

bruh i have ptsd of a late night fat girl from tinder with some weird red bloody stringy thing that came out of her pussy onto my dick and i just wiped it on her bed sheets and carried on fucking

just gagged. 18 year old me would have fucked anything stupid horny kid

[–]SavorThePill7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I really didn't want to upvote this, but I appreciate you sharing that harrowing experience.

[–]BriefcaseHead21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Learn from my mistakes brother

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

My dick went limp and was so confused, feel sorry for putting him through that

[–]glowing_dolphins39 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don’t understand it. I like skinny girls. (Aka normal BMI.) I really don’t get the trend at all. It’s ruining Christmas.

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

Guys in general do. There hasn't been any "generational shift" otherwise than "body positivity" being force-fed to us in the form of fat girls (lol force-fed.

[–]glowing_dolphins0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Heh, that actually got a laugh out of me.

I see TRP as making more valuable men. I hope some gals out there have the same thing as TRP, to make them into better people. Body positivity is such a circlejerk.

[–]Bleu_Cheese_Pursuits0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah bygone are the days when fat people were kept in their rightful place, which would be a mental state of constant anguish and shame (ideally enough to get them to stop eating for a while) But now being fat is a badge of honor worn by oppression fetishists.

[–]Psychological_Radish33 points34 points  (5 children) | Copy

A natural big ass on a fit frame is evolutionarily attractive because girls with wider hips have an easier time in childbirth. It has nothing to do with the Kardashians. Men have always liked nice asses. Television and social media simply brought the phenomenon into wider public awareness.

A muscular female ass (or male ass, for that matter) built from squatting is similarly hot because it signals physical fitness.

[–]kellykebab4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

But it also signals much more strength (i.e. masculine self-sufficiency) than is all that appealing in a woman. A girl who can run a couple miles and is under 25% bf is fit enough. These hard body chicks with abs, sculpted glutes, and sub-18% bf look pretty masculine to me. Why would you want a girl to be squatting 275? Blech

[–]Psychological_Radish11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

I can't think of anything hotter than plowing into a fitness girl with a big firm butt. But you do you, dude.

[–]JosephBosa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its not even a fitness ass when youre fucking, its basically a phat porn star ass.

I think OP above was talking about those masculine looking turbodykes who get 8 packs and get gaunt masculine faces and sculpted shoulders and V taper.

[–]kellykebab0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I want to be in charge, that's all.

[–]ChadBreeder1-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Incorrect but close. According to evolutionary biology, we are attracted to a small waist-to-hip ratio because it signifies that they will have a successful birth. In addition, we are attracted to big asses because it signifies that the baby will be protected in their womb (i.e., the larger ass protects the unborn baby better).

[–]custoscustodis54 points55 points  (4 children) | Copy

A lot of those bubbles these days are surgically enhanced or inserted. I think most guys prefer natural. I'd rather have a woman who is flat as a rail but natural.

[–]jackandjill2215 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

Agree. But I would assume that we're outliers, apparently this is popular for a reason.

[–]custoscustodis29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

IMO it's more about competition between women themselves than for guys.

Women see IG models with surgical implants everywhere. Nikki Minaj, Kim K, etc. Or older women. So I think that is driving it, and not so much what guys think. I think it's more fashionable than anything, like tats.

[–]WhatRemainsAfter3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, it is trending now a days.

Few years back trend was, zero size.

Before that, Big boobs.

[–]custoscustodis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also, unlike tats, fake body parts can be removed when the trend passes. So women who go the cosmetic route can't lose.

[–]thesaoexpress19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like it. Big natural asses

[–]DavidDickTouch6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mmm da poo poo

[–]mrmaskfawkes10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is gonna be cruel, but Im fine as long as the person isnt like big as in fat. Its just not my thing, but as for thier ass I dont care for the most part, unless it looks like they've had surgery its perfectly fine.

[–]kellykebab12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wow dude. So cruel for TRP.

[–]mrmaskfawkes1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ha

[–]Don_Draper274 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If it looks fake - whether it is or isn't - then it turns me off.

[–]DevilishRogue4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sir Mix-A-Lot has a lot to answer for...

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's more a demographic shift. As America (and the west, generally) gets "browner" then preferences will shift, on the whole, away from "toned" and more toward "thicc". White dudes will still dig slender women, but over populations, tastes will change.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

You can definitely see a trend in culture where girls want to be "thicc".

It's almost like all white girls want to have the body of a latino girl.

[–]TheGirlGetter90004 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

white girls want to have the body of a latino girl.

Black girl*

[–]wowkwo2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

nah black girls are just big, you want the big ass

[–]TheGirlGetter90002 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idk. I’ve seen chicks thinner with narrower frames, bigger asses, and bigger tits all simultaneously on the same black chick as I’ve seen on any white girl. And there’s really a lot of them like that.

[–]wowkwo4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah it's a generalization. Definitely a lot of skinny black girls out there too

[–]Prismatic_Symphony2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some of it's generational, some of it's cultural. Some of it's just the increasing volume of those who always preferred it. Different people have different preferences. There were guys who loved curvy girls long before the Kardashians came around.

[–]LateralThinker132 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

0.7 Waist-to-Hips Ratio is the golden target. Has been throughout history.

[–]courtesy_flush_plz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fkn Kim Kardashian & Iggy Azalea are primarily to blame

[–]juliusstreicher2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's the 'wigger' effect. Black men like the cow's ass. White youth, being bored, stupid, and uninspired, follow the rap/hiphop culture that gravitates towards the full diaper kind of female. So, we have a proliferation of people who like them huuuuge, and a group that convinced themselves that they liked them so.

[–]salezman127 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am younger than you but probably not young enough to be the guy you are askin, but here's my 2 cents anyway:

Don't worry about it. Whatever body type you like, there are plenty of chicks who fit the bill. If the one you're lookin at doesn't, just go on to the next one. If her before picture fits the bill, but her now picture doesn't, then go on to the next one.

I try to never get too caught up in worryin about what the trends are or what other people want. That doesn't matter because it doesnt help me in any way.

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[–]BriefcaseHead23 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

In other words you're saying the influence of brown and black mens preferences have changed the preference of western white people?

Honestly does make sense.

It was all tits over ass in these countries until 10 years ago when sexual rap music boomed like crazy and it keeps getting bigger and bigger. Now every white boy is obsessed with ass over tits and every white girl quotes lyrics from drill and rap songs about shaking their ass and suddenly having a fetish for brown and black guys

[–]youcantdrinkthat2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Interesting theory which makes sense for many possible reasons. Question: what is r-selected?

[–]Wildercard3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

K-selection and r-selection refers to ecology of species, whereas K-selection species prefer to have few offspring and care for all of them, r-selection species prefer to have as many as they can, even if it means majority of them don't make it to adulthood.

According to some, it's also a thinly veiled dogwhistle for white nationalists to subtly say "brown man destroy white man civilization". Doubt everything, do your own research, then do research on biases in your own research.

[–]beginner_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Question: what is r-selected?

spray and pray.. if you catch the drift

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or just "spray".

[–]ModernDao0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is from evolutionary biology. R-selected signifies minimal parental investment in offspring. As opposed to K-selected, which is intensive parental investment. Look up "anonymous conservative" and you'll find a trove of writing on the subject pertinent to the conversation.

[–]Wabbajak2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's a mix of people becoming fatter in general and the influx of immigrants from Arabia, Africa and South America.

There is a theory that, as humans developed the ability of walking upright, men's focus shifted from butts to breasts, but copying the same eye-catching effect (Source). The larger the breasts (with proportions kept in mind), the more attractive the woman. Breasts, just like butts, are an honest signal of mate-worthiness. However, being attracted to breasts came later in the evolutionary history of mankind.

As women gain weight, fat gets stored in disproportionate amounts in the buttcheeks, even more so for Blacks, Arabs or Latinas. That, plus the influx of immigrants from Arabia or South America, would explain the shift from "boobs to butts" in the US. Looking at all other Western countries, boobs still outweigh butts (huh).

Pair this with a general "fat acceptance" or "real gurlz have curvez" and what we get is 2020 with artificially enlarged asses as the new beauty standard.

[–]MagnumBurrito5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too much muscle mass is a turn off

[–]Skin-Successful6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

A nice big ass with a tiny waist is evolutionary desirable to men. I usually find the dudes who prefer skinny women are creepy. Why would you want a girl with the physique of a 13 year old boy?

[–]BluzzKill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, it's stupid

[–]Pimpcool4204 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Personally (as an early-20s guy) I have a theory; perhaps an older guy can comment on it.

I think the ass fad in pop culture comes from the body-positive thing. Previous standards of beauty had more emphasis on thinness, and boobs were very sexualized. But boobs are more genetic and thinness is rare while ass is attainable to overweight western people.

In African/Asian countries where more women have naturally-great asses they don't fetishize it as much.

[–]Drakane12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol what african fetishize ass the most dont know about asia. but if you in west africa having an ass is must. of course if your thin its alright too but more in a cute way not a sexy way .

[–]Zombiespire1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck no. Give me slim cardio bunnies anny day of the week. So sick of this country of fat chicks

[–]kaizen9873 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I prefer a lean, athletic look over the 'thickness' all the girls seem to be going for. A slim waist is an indicator of health, and possibly fertility.

[–]its_going_down_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

IMO it's a result of fitness culture / social media influencers. There are influencers selling fitness programs specifically for the booty. Showing off trained bodies gets likes on tiktok / instagram. Therefore, today, it is a generational preference.

[–]TheGirlGetter90000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Completely depends what you mean.

Bulking up to put on weight INCLUDING a bubble butt, alongside some fat? Just stay skinny.

A thin girl with some ab lines whose ass pops off her body? Now that's sexy as hell. Sign me up.

[–]Japilla0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

a handful is plenty of cake. it's all about the face and proportions

[–]wowkwo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

big ass and small waste is the best hands down every fucking day

[–]imsorted0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Tastes change! I used to like skinny girls, but now I like girls a bit curvier!

[–]SavorThePill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For context, I'm mid-20's. I'm not too picky...small ass, round ass, big tits, small tits (okay, I'm not really into flat-chested)--most of that shit doesn't matter to me. What does matter is if it's real. I'm tired of women who want to be plastic fucking Barbie dolls with huge collagen-filled lips, drawn on eyebrows and enough make-up to make a Kabuki troupe blush.

The outward projection is very telling of the inner state: fake. And look, I get that lots of women are fake regardless of the artificial modifications they make to their bodies but it's getting out of hand.

[–]Casanova-Quinn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

People here are citing evolution, or the Kardashians, and there's truth to that. But let's also not forget about the old "cushion for the pushin". When you're hitting it from the back it feels better when the girl has some ass.

[–]NerdyAffleet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like big (natural) booty. I like small booty. I like all booty. If the face is pretty...

[–]niceguyputin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Post pic that you’re talking about

[–]subaruguy140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck no, it’s nasty.

[–]Smooth-Notice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I see some girls giving themselves lordosis

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I love the Instagram booty models.

Hot as fuck

[–]kclanton800 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nope I'm not a fan, and most of them are having surgery then pretending they put in hard work. If it looks out of proportion, there is a reason for that.

[–]surrealismen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s just society who cares.

[–]AshyBoneVR40 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm 30. Thickfit all the fuckin way. Not a fan of all that surgical implant shit, but if she is muscular with some thickness to her, I just might start ring shopping. I'm impressed by women who can lift heavy in the gym. I've never liked thin girls and fat girls honestly disgust me. Toned is good, built with some thickness is better.

[–]NerdyAffleet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Preach

[–]thesaoexpress-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah it’s a definitely a new thing, this big butt trend

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

IG is literally cancer for women. Facepalm

[–]noNooodleArms-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a fellow older dude, yeah, it looks great in meat space, not so much in pics.

[–]VojvodaSrpski-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

I don’t know man I like big buts and I can not lie, that is if they’re natural and well proportioned of course. And if the upper body is small and feminine.

To be honest I never quite understood the appeal of those 90’s/2000s super skinny unhealthy looking bodies. For example skinny legs and big thigh gap is a big turn off for me.

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[–]VojvodaSrpski0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Honestly a bit too thin for me personally but I wouldn’t complain.

This would be mine ideal type though: https://twitter.com/zazzma_/status/1280076846974066689?s=21

Just looks healthy and natural I don’t know.

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[–]RevolutionaryPea7-2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy

Most people in the gym trying to change their appearance to make themselves more attractive are delusional. Men and women. Neither know what the other sex really finds attractive. It's not massive pecs and it's not a massive arse. Lifting will generally make men more attractive as long as they are lean. It doesn't really do anything for women. Everyone is limited by their genetics and targeted workouts do essentially nothing. The only thing that makes a really big difference is gear, which makes men more attractive and women less.

[–]VojvodaSrpski4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women with flat butts and skinny legs can benefit greatly from lifting.

[–]Drakane13 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

nope you're wrong lifting for broad shoulders and wide bags get you that dorito look. that what women want. and women who squat improve their waist to hip ratio. which men want.

[–]RevolutionaryPea70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Lol... Shoulders and hips are bones. You can't change them. But like I said. Delusional. I'm not saying don't lift. Lift. Women don't need to lift, though.

[–]Drakane10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

are you dumb. you do know there are muscle around those bones that you can grow to manipulate how you look



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