TL,DR: Men, especially fathers, tend to want to die less often when they get to be active fathers, participate in the lives of their children, etc. Surprise surprise, men are people too and love their children.

TidusXFinal · 2021-06-19T14:57:50+00:00

The way they phrased that title in r/science 🤢

williamshakemyspeare · 2021-06-19T15:07:49+00:00

Not surprised that the framing of this puts the onus on men again, as though it’s simply men’s choices that lead them to participate more or less in domestic life.

What are the chances that it’s actually when men get treated as more than a breadwinner, that they have better outcomes? And what about the societal pressure for men to succeed or be seen as worthless?

Moctezuma1 · 2021-06-19T16:20:55+00:00

My (ex) wife decided to leave me and our kids to explore the single life. For 3 years, I thought about suicide. On two occasions I planned it and almost went through it. My kids, both were under 10, and also psychologically struggling. I eventually seeked out counseling for us. I can honestly say that my kids saved my life. We are stronger, happier together more than ever. I will always be here for them no matter what.

teachdove5000 · 2021-06-19T15:06:52+00:00

I will always be a father to my son no doubt in my mind. He “drives” me. Since his birth, I have lost 25 pounds and much more active, whether I want to or not!

Sons needs role models and a man to guide them.

PoolOfAlpacas · 2021-06-19T15:54:35+00:00

Im sorry, what???? The??? Fuck?????

WOAH MEN HAVE WILL TO LIVE WHEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO LOVE THIER CHILDREN????

Who woulda thunk it, men are human, social creatures too!!

Did we really need to waste the time, money, resources, time, and assets to do a whole a study to show men do better when they are actually loved because MEN ARE HUMAN?

miketrance · 2021-06-19T13:22:45+00:00

Too bad feminists keep fighting against default shared parenting laws.

d_nijmegen · 2021-06-19T13:24:23+00:00

I can confirm, my baby's smile has me in a state of comple devotion to her, she is soooo easy to love! And it runs deeper than I thought, even when I was prepared for it through stories.

NorwegianHussar · 2021-06-19T23:11:54+00:00

People in the comments really turning this post into. Oh no I'm a women who has to do "emotional labour" my life is so hard when the post is about male suicide rates.

Magical-Hummus · 2021-06-19T20:42:50+00:00

And a thousand studies will follow and say the same thing and in the very end men will be still treated like are emotionless monsters.

mmpro55 · 2021-06-19T20:16:47+00:00

Lo and behold this kind of study will be used in a way that allows women to ostensibly benefit while not adjusting any expectation on men.

MisfitAngel669 · 2021-06-20T02:59:38+00:00

I am all for joint custody. 50/50 time with the kids, no child support from either. And major basic yet extra expenses for the kids should be spilt ie braces, glasses, school fees, clothes etc. Obviously if one person makes a lot more money, they can treat the child to things like extra curriculars, designer clothes, car at 16… co parenting is important.

vaevictus75 · 2021-06-20T03:26:05+00:00

And this will still be a surprise to some.

Ivaniz · 2021-06-19T16:21:43+00:00

•́ ‿ ,•̀

coloradocaniac · 2021-06-20T02:46:40+00:00

What?

Male emotions matter?

Surely you jest.

give_back_virjinity · 2021-06-19T22:03:03+00:00

when they get to be? or when they choose to be?

fandksavetheworld · 2021-06-19T15:00:45+00:00

That's actually not what the article or the research said.

It said that suicide for men is lower in areas where men perform more family care work, which can mean parental duties or being a good dad though being an involved parent isn't mentioned in the article at all.

The article more so involves broader family care meaning cleaning and maintaining a household as well as involvement in family using other nations as reference that require men to be more domestically oriented.

ElegantDecline · 2021-06-19T15:34:51+00:00

If any part of you wants to be a father, time is of the essence. You need to focus on dating women who you feel would be good mothers to your kids, and cut clean off immature women or those who have different goals in their lives. Don't waste time. Don't fuck around. As we age, our sperm count drops, and women's fertility drops. Don't wait till your late 20's or 30's, for some that will be too late. I shit you not.

There is no such thing as being "Childless". If you work or pay bills, a big chunk of that is going to take care of other people's kids. pays for school.. pays to feed single moms kids... all with or without your consent. if you'd rather spend your life working hard to feed and care for other men's kids, you do that... nothing wrong with being a responsible and sensible modern-day cucked superhero. Society needs millions of men to sacrifice their genepool for others' to survive. Having just ONE child and putting him or her in school makes up for the thousands a year you put into the system

You only have this one chronological chance to reproduce. Make sure you take advantage of it and do this right. Do it for those of us who missed the boat. Do it for me.

Entrepreneur-Money · 2021-06-19T15:31:30+00:00

I don't know... it seems like a subliminal message to force men to have children if they're not going to commit suicide.

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