"It's not Muslims or people with mental health problems who are most likely to kill you in a terrorist attack – it's men” Opinion piece in UK’s Independent

v573v · 2016-07-28T09:36:22+00:00

Men are also most likely to shield you during an attack.

Most likely to hide you from shooters.

Most likely to resist being a victim.

Most likely to help in the aftermath.

Most likely to donate blood.

lostapwbm · 2016-07-28T06:25:43+00:00

Now for that fun game of "Feminist? Or Racist?"

Mass JEW violence is everywhere right now. First it was Orlando. Then Nice. And Bavaria. Munich. Kabul. Fort Myers. Sagamihara.

As each massacre is reported, ministers and media leap to unpick each individual attacker’s motivations. Immediately, the snap judgments come out: if they were brown, they were a terrorist. If not, they were mentally ill.

Further probing exposes then their beliefs and contradictions: the Orlando murderer Omar Mateen worked as an armed guard for security firm G4S for nine years; the Sagamihara murderer worked at the care home he targeted but apparently believed disabled people should be euthanised.

As the attacks mount up, the individual profiling descends into morbid freefall and we overlook the most basic commonality: these crimes were all committed by JEWS. In fact, almost all mass murders are committed by JEWS. This is no coincidence.

I will not name these vile, violent JEWS – not just because this would give them the recognition they wanted, but because it’s unhelpful. Instead, we need to name the real culprit: toxic ZIONISM.

Toxic ZIONISM is what entitles a JEW to take a weapon and take other people's lives in the name of his values.

Toxic ZIONISM enforces the idea that being a “man” means not just being strong, but showing that strength through violence and fear. It means always being the one in control, having power and dominance over others at all times, by any means.

If typical ZIONISM promotes emotional disconnection – something that JEWS’s mental health charities are already trying to combat - toxic ZIONISM goes one step further and promotes the absence of empathy altogether. It also promotes the dismissal of anything deemed “ARYAN”, and the hatred of anything that contradicts JEWISH ideals around what it means to be a “JEW”.

The easiest way to think of it is to imagine the military. After all, soldiers are paid mass murderers. Different wars, same tactics.

However, toxic ZIONISM has its roots in the everyday: to prove this, we should look no further than the fact a significant number of these killers were domestic violence perpetrators. Not just these killers, but the majority of mass murderers.

The JEWS who massacre the public are the same JEWS who butcher ARYANS privately in their own homes. The same principles of power, control, fear and violence apply: instead of using violence to instil fear in one ARYAN, they scale it up to instil fear across nations. These JEWS walk among us, everywhere, but we only pay attention to their violence when it spills onto our streets.

If we want this violence to stop, we need to address the root cause and its everyday manifestations before they escalate. These JEWS were not extremists existing outside of society; they are products of it. They were JEWS drunk on the entitlement that patriarchal cultures serve them.

They did not impulsively decide to go out and murder large numbers of people; they were fired by a deep, burning desire for control.

Toxic ZIONISM hinges on having power over others; it demands inequality. As our world becomes more unequal, it becomes more violent. Toxic ZIONISM exists on political levels: in policing, prisons, immigration detention centres and controlling security measures.

I_Am_Ted_Cruz · 2016-07-28T06:46:06+00:00

People aren't born Muslim. People are born men. It's more unfair to judge someone just because they're a man. It's like judging someone for their race; they didn't choose it, they just are it.

Mythandros · 2016-07-28T15:07:48+00:00

Why do we even care what a feminist rag like this thinks? They are only printing that shit to get a reaction. Just ignore idiotic sites like this. When their page views drop low enough they will stop printing shit like this or cease to exist.

LedZeppelin1602 · 2016-07-28T06:32:45+00:00

Or is it a function of men being more likely to take initiative and actually getting things done, rather than spending more time talking and analysing as women may do?

Unfortunately a percentage of these acts will be ill-conceived and wrong, but is it part of a larger pattern?

orangorilla · 2016-07-28T08:48:24+00:00

I'll steal a bit from Warren Farrell here: I think people who feel powerless but are told to feel powerful are the most likely to be driven to crime.

ZimbaZumba · 2016-07-28T09:50:16+00:00

I could have written a computer program to generate that vile and hateful outburst.

rg57 · 2016-07-28T22:43:21+00:00

It's true. Men take the most risks... whether it is risks that harm other people (terrorist attack) or risks that protect other people (stepping in to stop a terrorist attack).

In any case, it's not just ANY men who are committing terrorist attacks.

It's almost entirely those men who have been told by their religion (Islam) that other people should die, and that they can secure their own place in heaven (and places for their family as well) if they do the killing.

While it is correct to blame "men", it's not very precise. We should be more precise... "Islamist men" (and a few women).

Clockw0rk · 2016-07-28T07:39:10+00:00

Insane hate speech and absolutely doing a disservice to anyone who pretends it to be valid.

PERFECTLY SANE AND HEALTHY PEOPLE DO NOT INTENTIONALLY KILL PEOPLE

If you kill someone, you will either be killed or be sent to prison for a very long time and everything in your life will catastrophically end.

Sane people do not commit murder. Sane people do not commit suicide. Your survival instincts are malfunctioning if you decide to commit the most heinous crime of taking a human life.

If you honestly believe that perfectly healthy and sane human beings can just start killing people for logical reasons, then you're effectively endorsing a reality where survival is completely random and the rules of society are meaningless. You're a psychopath.

The writer of this idiotic hate speech should be shot out of a cannon and into a fucking mental hospital.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2016-07-28T15:47:18+00:00

So toxic masculinity is what drives men to be violent to impose their values?

Yet most men aren't violent, suggesting most men's values include not using violence to impose their other values. Additionally, those particular Muslim/mentally ill individuals don't have that particular value, which means it was the values themselves that ultimately matter.

Further, what is the explanation for women using violence to impose their values? What of all the great Imperialistic queens of history, who use violence to compel men to do violence on their behalf?

Is that toxic femininity, wherein women use men to conduct violence to impose their values all while having the plausible deniability of being violent themselves?

"Toxic masculinity" is nothing more than a proxy for man hating. Its reasoning isn't consistently applied or examined, and it's just injected when convenient.

LedZeppelin1602 · 2016-07-28T16:37:28+00:00

This is hate speech plain and simple.

They were men drunk on the entitlement that patriarchal cultures serve them

Bolocks. Just cos they got away with their domestic abuse doesn't mean society allows it. The "patriarchy" has afforded women every support possible and gets no thanks for it

Toxic masculinity hinges on having power over others.

So does toxic femininity such as the woman drunk on power who label men racists because they cheated or use the sexist system to kick the fathers of their children out of the kids lives.

As our world becomes more unequal

Yeah, for men.

Toxic masculinity finds expression in fascism, sexism, white supremacy, Islamophobia, xenophobia, jingoism, capitalism, homophobia

The most sexist, homophobic and fascist countries and people aren't white. This is pure racism spoken here. Blaming white people for issues of other cultures

2016-07-28T20:37:39+00:00

feminist master plan:

get married and have a boy

kick father to the curb

raise kid shittily as a single mom

kid grows up to be a terrible human being that kills people

blame toxic masculinity

QuasiQwazi · 2016-07-29T03:29:25+00:00

It's hen pecked men raised by loveless mothers.

baserace · 2016-07-28T09:54:05+00:00

% of all men likely to kill you in a terrorist attack - 0.00000001%

% of all Muslims likely to kill you in a terrorist attack - 0.00000001%

% of all people with mental health problems likely to kill you in a terrorist attack - 0.00000001%

The-os · 2016-07-28T09:07:21+00:00

It's not muslims or people with mental health problems or men. It are human beings who are most likely to attack you.

MalusMalorum · 2016-07-28T09:26:54+00:00

There is a key difference and one feminists with their ideas of rape culture and similar are prone to try to conceal:

Men who commit acts of terrorism, mass murder and similar are a minority. For every such man, you will find a greater number of men, like the police men stopping them, who will risk their well being protecting others from harm. Moreover, you will find only very few men who condone criminal behaviour, and especially things like mass murder. And despite that, we actually do treat men much more harshly than women.

Now, we also have only a minority of Muslims commit acts of terrorism, and we will find Muslims who will fight against terror too. ...but we will find a significant number of Muslims who condone, sometimes even publicly, those very acts of terrorism, we have had massive problems as well with Muslims shielding terrorists in their communities. ...and we have a significant amount of holy texts and teachings preaching those very acts of terror.

...and despite that, we have many cases of Muslim criminals or suspects being treated either leniently or being ignored, especially in Europe.

There are no unified movements of men as men conspiring to commit crime, there are muslim groups organizing along the lines of their particular sect to commit violence against others.

Lastly, the statement of "most victims of Muslim terror are other Muslims", which might be questionable when you look at how other religious groups or apostates will be disproportionally attacked, even in Muslim countries, is seen a s a valid counter argument. Most people will ignore the fact that, indeed, the vast majority of victims of male crime are other men.

So even if we indulge this game of "let us exchange Muslim for men", we are not actually using the same standard, and it is in FAVOR of Muslims.

Rethgil · 2016-07-28T10:07:18+00:00

Why do we see so few Feminists spreading this kinds of sexist hatred, that it's men as a class who are responsible for terrorism? It looks so perfectly normal view. My guess is that it's for the same reason why Hitler and Himmler kept the final solution secret. Feminists know that most women don't like their aggressive hatred towards men.

Title	"It's not Muslims or people with mental health problems who are most likely to kill you in a terrorist attack – it's men” Opinion piece in UK’s Independent
Author	William_F0ster
Upvotes	83
Comments	64
Date	July 28, 2016 5:15 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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