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Man wrongly labeled a pedophile on Facebook gets death threats

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May 11, 2015
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Title Man wrongly labeled a pedophile on Facebook gets death threats
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Tiggity-T

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Date May 11, 2015 2:12 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Jailed for Nonpayment of Child Support - But it's Not His Child

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March 25, 2013
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[–]keeplayer109 108 points109 points110 points 11 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link

I want to know why the woman's name hasn't been released. she committed a criminal act and basically put a bounty on this dude's head.

[–]TheThinMan34 33 points34 points35 points 11 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link

It's actually a good thing that they haven't released either parties names. That's the proper way to report on stuff like this. As much as this womans actions anger us all undoubtedly, releasing her name might result in her or her family being harass. With her, yeah, I don't personally care. But other members of her family could be harassed as well.

[–]Funcuz 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, uh, his name is all over the place for anybody who wants to know it. Or at least, it was.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

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[–]SigmundFloyd76 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a straight man, this is why I wish I was gay.

[–]Wargame4life 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

As a gay man, this is why I'm so happy I don't have to deal seriously with women.

Genuinely curious what your relationship is with women, are you obviously gay or do women think you are straight and apply their "Games" to make you do what they want etc, and you just shut that shit down immediately.

are women friendly or hostile to you because they have no leverage or power over you?

[+][deleted] 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Wargame4life 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the flip side and disadvantage though is that you have eendless forbidden fruit dangled infront of you.

im sure you have fallen for many people who are not gay and you have 0% chance with.

thats got to suck.

[–]gaymra13 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm gay in a way you can't tell. I see the stark differences between women's behaviors when they think I'm straight vs when they find out im gay. It's deplorable. I worked a retail job in NYC and saw girls drop their bubbly game to get a discount when they find out. Some try the 'you're a gay man so we're besties now' routine which is equally tiresome. I'm nice to everyone but I'm not risking my job for someone who just wants a discount.

[–]like-clockwork 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Also gay, in a non obvious way. I don't like bringing it up either, because most of the time it's just not relevant. So from their perspective I'm just a guy that's not interested.

On the rare occasions I do notice one of their "games" I politely decline. Sometimes they pursue and things get awkward. Sometimes they get pissed and turn into something nasty. Sometimes they catch on and give up on it, and we end up being good friends. Most of the time they just end up backing off so they can get attention elsewhere, because if none of their charms work on me then why bother?

[–]Wargame4life 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Id be interested in some stories if you don't mind sharing....

As much detail as you like, it must be great having absolutely no care or desire over women's bodies/faces.

Id love to see some of them pulling their shit on someone who is completely immune.

[–]DrDreamtime 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

As a gay man, this is why I'm so happy I don't have to deal seriously with women.

Definitely one of the biggest perks.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]DrDreamtime 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh so many perks.

*You must live in a tolerant state to exercise all GayPerks®

[+]pulzey -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

We don't need her name too, this could potentially destroy her and her kids (mostly the kids) future. What she did is unforgivable, but instead of acting barbaric, he should press charges if he wishes to do so. No reason to create a bigger shitstorm.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

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[–]pulzey 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I live in Sweden and slander is a crime that you can report to the authorities here, not sure about Australia.

[–]The_0bserver -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

And what good will that do anyone? It was a mistake that his name was released. No real point screwing with one more family. If she gets doxxed, then we can be sure there will be a lot of shit slinging. Large scale harassments including rape and death threats are a problem for both MRA s and feminism. We must acknowledge that that shit happens.

If somehow they can settle the mess amicably then people will forget about this incident soon. The woman has already apologised. Live and let live. She cried wolf but it was a mistake. Acknowledge it as such. Everyone makes mistakes. She should deal with the consequences, yes. But no point making her and by clear extension her family suffer.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Satafly -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You know her family will get shit as well right?

Fuck this mob mentality. She has kids, those kids don't need a bunch of internet strangers harassing their mother.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Satafly -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I might be idealistic here, but I'd like to make society better with as little shaming and social execution as possible.

[–]tyciol0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Zero is least possible which would mean not punishing any crimes at all.

[–]tyciol 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck this attitude. Parents should not get away with shit just because they've a brood. Outing alarmists benefits kids who suffer under their controlling rule

I know how this type thinks. Kids would be better off in foster care.

[–]tyciol 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apologies are free. Inadequate. She must make amends. She should pay this man money for his suffering or go to jail. Her reputation should be drug through mud. People should understand there are consequences.

Keep in mindnfolks that if Darth Vader guy was only taking pic for himself and not sending it to his fanboy nephew the woman probably wouldn't have even apologized.

You know damn well the misandrists are already speculating that the guy was about to photo her kids or that he did so and deleted it and that the selfie was a last minute save he die by flipping his camera 180.

[–]elokr 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So? Actions have consequences.

[–]tyciol 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop being dramatic. It would make her future more difficult which is good. Harder life wouldngivenher less time to harass men.

It would improve the future of her children. She is a bad role model and will abuse them.

[–]SleepingSheeple3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Then the kids should be removed from the toxic mother.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Fuck that shit. His name is all over the place. She should be getting jail time.

[–]TheThinMan34 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The victories we achieve mean nothing if we don't stand on the moral high ground.

[–]tyciol 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you insinuate that rolling over and letting abusers go on to hurt others, possibly even their kids, with psych abuse, is more moral than imposing consequence to compel them to correct their antisocial behaviors?

[–]TheThinMan34 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Our job isn't to go on witch hunts. That's what feminazis do, and we're better than them. If we allow ourselves to stoop to their levels we become no better.

[–]tyciol -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do not think reviewing the parenting ability of someone who spends time shaming innocent strangers instead of watching their kid is anywhere near their level. please.do.not equate simple oversighting with feminist terrorism.

[–]possiblylefthanded 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What good is your moral high ground if it doesn't have any effect on this happening again and again?

[–]TheThinMan34 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It actually does if you take the time to actually think about it.

[–]MrWinks 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I traced it but it leads to facebook, which is off limits for us to post. Also, I never saw a name.

[–]meshnet_user 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll never understand why we can't post a public information source on a public website which is all over the news, publicly.

[–]caius_iulius_caesar 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not criminal. He can sue for libel if he wants.

[+]n0solace -24 points-23 points-22 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you think it was criminal? I mean maybe liable or something buy not sure about a crime? It should be though, she probably did it for attention more than anything.

[–]samsc2 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you do something regardless of the reasons behind it you can be held liable for any crimes that come out from it. Inciting violence, riots, disturbing the peace are just a few examples. It is however extremely hard to get the police, DA, and judges to be willing to follow through with it.

[–]Dr_Morsu 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's semantics... Misdemeanor or felony it's all crimes. Civil or criminal is the delineator here... If her actions cause the threat of bodily harm then it's criminal... If not and only defamation of character it's likely civil.

[–]futureruins48 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How is this not libel? He should sue. We have to stop allowing these assholes to ruin innocent men's lives (or at least trying to). Remember that woman who assaulted a minor at the beach because he was flying a drone?

[–]JosephSDFSD 32 points33 points34 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Another example why mob justice and public shaming is not the way to go.

[–]bertreapot 33 points34 points35 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

this is what feminists encourage, though. the law doesn't "take women seriously," so they go to the media, who share the story because it's not PC to question "victims," or to social media, where everything goes viral without question. welcome to the new lynching.

[–]Satafly 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The top comment currently has an argument and the upvoted comments are MRAs calling to have her name released so they can attack her.

Assholes jump to social media to lynch, regardless of ideology.

[–]Wargame4life 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she publicly shamed this man with the exact intention of stirring the masses, its only justice that she now suffers under the weight of the same masses.

its like someone poisoning a pie for someone and then accidentally eating it, and then complaining about how horrible and cruel the poison is.

she has only herself to blame for this, and all the hostility and vitriol she receives is pure justice as she was intending the same treatment for the other man, or at best was opening the door to such things for him.

[–]tyciol -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If by attack you mean verbally criticize rather than physically assault then sure. Doesn't make us assholes. We wantnto avenge an injured comrade.

People like thisnshoukd be knocked down a peg. Not just to discredit then but also to paint an example of consequences to people who fuck up so people will put more forethought in before accusing people of misdeeds.

[–]Satafly 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not just to discredit then but also to paint an example of consequences to people who fuck up so people will put more forethought in before accusing people of misdeeds.

Oh bullshit. This is textbook eye-for-an-eye and it will accomplish nothing.

[–]tyciol 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No it isn't. It is an eyebrow for an eye.

Is is aesthetically displeasing but will.never approach the.threat this man has been subjected to.

I would jury nullify anyone persecuted for slipping Nair into her shampoo. Would serve her right.

[–]Satafly -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...ok

[–]tyciol -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. This illustrates the power it has. Maybe it means we should use it to hit back and create a chilling effect against unfounded accusations.

[–]chortle-guffaw 25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Here in America, if this woman has any assets or insurance, there are lawyers who would be happy to take this case on a contingency basis. And not just sue this woman, but anyone else who commented negatively on this post or threatened him.

This damage to his reputation is real. Even if he is proven innocent beyond any doubt, his name is associated with the crime in people's minds.

[–]tyciol 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not everyone who commented negatively. If someone said they hated Darth Vader and his fans that'd be fine.

[–]uberpower 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

People need to mind their own business and have the sense to not put photos of strangers with wild accusations on the internet. The mom is the creep here . . . the severe creep.

But because they don't (mind their own business), the sad reality for men is that men need to not take certain photos or selfies or videos, and not speak to kids. I'm serious. One misstep could cost you everything - job, employability, family, friends, everything.

As usual, this incident is driven by a political agenda that is reverse sexist and "teaches" moms to be afraid of men. What a sad state of affairs.

MRA is needed for things just like this.

[–]abcIDontKnowTheRest 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you that people need to mind their own business and not be so quick to make assumptions.

That being said, I feel the need to correct one little thing:

driven by a political agenda that is reverse sexist

There is no reverse sexism or reverse racism or other reverse -isms in this context. Sexism is sexism and racism is racism, regardless of the perpetrator or victim.

That being said, issues like this certainly seem to be slanted in the favour of women.

[–]AustNerevar 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with everything you said, I just don't like the term 'reverse sexist'.

But I get what you're trying to say.

[–]uberpower 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right.

[–]flyingwolf 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After a rash of eggings and toilet papering of houses and cars in the area I was informed that my home was being targeted.

In order to document the state of my home and vehicle before anything happened I took a video camera out to begin taking video of my home and car.

A neighbor came home, this neighbor's child is suspected of being one of the main perpetrators of the criminal activity in the area.

The following is what I have dealt with for the past year.

http://youtu.be/l-66wLZ8clw?t=24s

As a professional photographer specializing in newborn portraits, children's sports, family photos and weddings, these accusations are extremely detrimental to my character and career. The have not only made these statements in public, but also on a semi public local message board for the neighborhood, people that would be considered my target demographic.

[–]tyciol 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I mean just flip the genders here.

If a guy took his daughters to My Little Pony on Ice and snapped a photo of a pegasister in a dashy shirt and tweeted "check out this lesbo lusting after my girls what.a creep" you know damn well he would be the one vilified and accused of sexualizing his kids and everyone would rally behind her right to be a fangirl.

[–]Valkatron 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But she has already given a tearful apology! Everyone should just leave her alone! /s

[–]icecow 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If a woman cries that should erase it. The man needs to suck it up and deal with pedo comments for the rest of his life. /sarcasm off

[–]v8beetle 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No offense, but screw her alligator tears. She's crying because she knows she screwed up. What about his tears, his kids, his wife, his future all at her idiotic fingertips the moment she did what she did without the slightest evidence. Yes I know you were being sarcastic, but I just could give two craps about her tears.

[–]Valkatron 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Me too. She has to accept the punishment she gets and no amount of begging or crying should get her out of it.

[–]lolalion2313 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't see why he isn't sueing her. Or why this is no all over any media. There has to be a way to get more coverage on this topic. And get the word out. She called him a pedophile, on a public social media site . Isn't there a law about lying about someone like that? And destroying their image?

[–]Wargame4life 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

defamation of character yes, he can sue but he needs to show damage to reputation or lost opportunities because of it.

[–]bass_hertz_my_ears 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure damage to reputation could be proven by the death threats he's received.

[–]Wargame4life 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i mean damage as in financial loss or some kind of event where you demand a financial compensation to compensate the "Loss/damage"

[–]bass_hertz_my_ears 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, and the damage to his reputation is arguably going to lessen his opportunity for financial gain, not only the embarrassment and duress that the man had to go through, having his name publicly shamed over the internet over all reaches of the globe. Hell, here I am in the United States and even I've heard the story of that poor Aussie that some bitch falsely accused.

[–]tyciol 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting proof is hard because prospective clients or employers will just politely not do business with you to avoid being a target of anger or discrimination suit.

In some cases we should just assumenby common sense that calling someone something harms work opportunity without proof. Accusing someone of having a paraphilic disorder whose diagnostic criteria requires either severe depression or criminal activity is clearly one of them since many employers would consider either a liability.

[–]lolalion2313 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well it doesn't seem like he has been let go from his job because of it. But what about getting future jobs? The Internet branded him as a pedophile, even for a short period of time. Didn't police show up at his house? Can't he sue for false accusations?

[–]Wargame4life -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it has to be shown to have had some kind of quantifiable cost, so if you were denied a job as a result then yes you can sue.

if you accused me of being a "panda" for example that has no cost to it because even though on principle its the same crime, it carries no cost or loss to me.

[–]tyciol 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Expecting proof for weird stuff like panda makes sense.

Proof.should not be needed when you accuse someone of mental illness or crime. These are clearly things most employers try to avoid.

[–]Satafly 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because he just wants it to be over with.

I wouldn't go through months of legal bullshit over this, further putting my name in the spotlight.

[–]disposable-name 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they say women have zero privilege in our society...

[–]1337leeleet 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was labeled a rapist/pedophile in my middle school class for liking punk rock and other hobbies. Of course they were all rednecks. Good ol' east tennessee!

[–]tyciol 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

CM Punk having a petite younger wife may not help the next gen deal with this.

[+]Contivity 11 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

isn't this considered slander and/or false reporting (since she explicitly states false information to the police)

[–]abcIDontKnowTheRest 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Technically speaking it's libel. Simply put, libel is written, slander is spoken.

But yes...yes, it is.

[–]TelMegiddo 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She never reported to the police, he did when he heard he was being called a pedophile online.

This would be libel(written) rather than slander(verbal) though.

[–]Stephen1985 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is something I'm always concious of when I'm out with my daughter and I want to take pictures when other kids are around.

I think it's pathetic that the thought even has to enter my head.

[–]Sanguifer 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly why You don't want to feed the pedophilia hysteria.

Pedophiles are rare. Pedophiles who are also rapists are even more rare. About half of them are women, of course - but when You feed the hysteria, who gets wrongly accused and pilloried? Protip: It's not gonna be a woman.

"Stranger danger" is the Think-of-the-children version of rape culture.

[–]zackya89 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

from r/CitJournalist

Australia does have an hysterical, radicalised ultra-conservative streak when it comes to children. Basically, there are almost no male primary school teachers or carers due to the unfounded belief that any man is potential paedophile and so many will face baseless accusations that end their career. Don't ever think of taking kids to a park, you will have the police called on you, don;t dare have a conversation with a person under 16, don't photograph someone if they look under 18, don't even draw or paint kids, and don't ever think of photographing in public for fear some dimwit will accost you. What kind of kids does this produce? This perpetuates an unrealistic stereotype and deprives kids of the contribution of male role models. The great unwashed see paedophilia everywhere due to their own repressive sexuality and irrationally think our commonly accepted societal rules and responsibilities don't apply, so they can become vigilantes. I don't know the exact figures but for sex crimes against children the perpetrator is in the region 95% immediate family, and the rest people known to the family, with a tiny percentage a stranger. Sure, the chances of a predator are still real, but it is such an inflated fear that the cost to men is unjust. We need to treat men like women when it comes to kids. This hysteria dehumanises males, it causes a cultural and social chill effect that amounts to oppression. The fact this guy had to spend hours getting interviewed and have his possessions searched, and his reputation so damaged by false allegations and a 'witchhunt' - makes this incredibly unjust. Will he sue? No chance, the spectre of paedophilia is enough to cast doubt. And as for the evidence? Well he is a man.

[–]miaSissy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this like gamer gate?

[–]Deefry 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Snapshot

[+]Naozumi -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

just putting it out there... reddit can't take the moral high ground about wrongly accusing someone.

[–]healious 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

you say "reddit" like it's a single person

[–]The03k 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He is, though. I saw him hanging out with this 4chan guy. He's kind of a dick, honestly.

[–]tyciol 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah what a third wheel he is trying to get between 4chumblr

[–]AustNerevar 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I consider myself Reddit and I had no part in that shitfest in the slightest. If I'd been that far down in the thread where that went on I would have decried it, for what good it would have done.

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