Why do bluepillers push therapy so much?

NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-07-11T14:12:46+00:00

Just world fallacy.

Women refuse to accept that all men can't be good with women cuz that would mean that women are being mean and rejecting men for things they can't change.

Women aren't mean, women are wonderful, how DARE you challenge that, this is why you are an incel, women can smell your insecurity.

I like short confident guys too. Just so happens all my exes are 6ft.

Even trust fund kids want to think they are awesome cuz they worked hard in their daddies company and that anyone could do it if they worked as hard as them.

platinirisms · 2023-07-11T10:56:42+00:00

Therapy should be used for mental health illnesses or post shock from a traumatic event, stress, depression, anxiety, psychopathy, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, PTSD, MPD, OCD, etc.

Being unattractive to women is not a mental health issue. Your therapist can’t do anything about that except maybe helping you deal with your loneliness if you suffer from it.

Bluepillers throw out therapy like it’s nothing because they believe they’ve helped solve the issue and it makes them feel good believing they did a good thing and maybe even saved a life! When in reality they didn’t do anything.

Blightning421 · 2023-07-11T13:26:32+00:00

It called gaslighting.
Gaslighting = making a sane person seem/feel crazy
Therapy is for crazy/unwell people

Its so they don't have to acknowledge your points and just say "Don't listen to that guy he's crazy"

reststoppoopfeast · 2023-07-11T14:16:14+00:00

They don't have any real solutions to the problems facing depressed, lonely, sexless, unwanted, low-value men.

They throw therapy out there as a kind of cure-all for struggling men, even though therapy is often useless. Many therapists are awful. Even good therapy is just going to help you develop some coping strategies.

I think they don't know what else to offer to help, and they don't want to admit that cruel, shallow women rejecting perfectly decent men for some pretty arbitrary shit like not being 6 feet tall is part of the problem.

The way they act like being chronically lonely isn't a problem also bothers me. Humans are social animals. There's a large volume of research showing that loneliness is very bad for a person's physical and mental health. Solitary confinement is banned in many parts of the world because it is considered one of the cruelest punishments. This idea that they push that ugly guys should just be happy being alone and lonely is really disconnected from reality. Most people are not capable of being happy with no one in their lives. Humans just aren't built that way.

hudibrastic · 2023-07-11T15:00:23+00:00

For the most part therapy is just a normalized scam

mazobrozo · 2023-07-11T16:50:14+00:00

Therapy is the most useless shit ever. I remember at the last therapy appointment I went to I brought up some stuff about women (this was like 4 years ago) and he just said that my thoughts were irrational and nothing else.

jobejac · 2023-07-11T18:00:44+00:00

Bluepillers and a lot of women are proven to be mentally ill, from what r/science said. Some scientists who were in one of the Reddit comments had confirmed most women are mentally ill for their bizarre picks for dating men who tend to be bullies and/or sociopaths/psychopaths (Alphas and Sigmas). So, that coming from a bluepill emasculated simp ass loser does NOT surprise me.

Only ones that need therapy are modern women in the ages between 18-40. Nothing but some braindead ass bitches. 🤷🏿‍♂️

I_remember_oddkast · 2023-07-11T12:44:56+00:00

Therapy is paying for a liberal white woman to gaslight you until you agree with her.

Scrimmy_Bingus2 · 2023-07-11T11:45:07+00:00

I made a whole post about my negative experience with therapy

I think normies push therapy because it’s only effective at solving normie problems.

ropecelling · 2023-07-11T15:54:47+00:00

it's an individualistic solution peddled by privileged people who have hundred dollar bills to burn. also helps for victim-blaming: if it doesn't work, they just didn't go enough or apply what they're told enough.

WorldlinessFinal172 · 2023-07-11T14:08:50+00:00

It's gaslighting and just a more polite way of saying "all of you guys are delusional and need to get your delusions treated". Bluepillers believe that all incels either just have body dysmorphia, which is the delusional belief one's body is flawed, or have adopted other delusions to justify their irrational fears, anxieties, and unwillingness to talk to women.

The reality is that being a lonely and undesirable man is not a mental illness. No amount of therapy/drugs will fix that problem. I’ve lost count of the amount of posts on incel and FA subs I’ve seen where a lonely guy has went to therapy only to come out thinking “I’ve wasted my time and money on this”. I've never once witnessed any incel claim they no longer feel lonely after going to therapy to fix their loneliness.

malesareobjects · 2023-07-11T19:38:01+00:00

They just have the conservative viewpoint, called a just world fallacy. It's insanely hypocritical but humans are hypocritical in general, so it makes sense lol.

In my view therapy is only good to vent. It didn't change anything about my situation, in fact it just made my self-hatred worse. I only started to think that I deserved my abuse and rape after I started therapy. Now I wake up every day thinking that I don't deserve the right to live. I honestly would still tell people to give a shot though escpially if they are in a situation where issues can be fixed.

EverVigilant1 · 2023-07-11T13:35:27+00:00

To make themselves feel better, like they "did something" to "help" someone else. 95% of a bluepiller's life is virtue signaling and social justice warring.

shadowcat211 · 2023-07-11T22:30:00+00:00

The state gave my brother a therapist because he was autistic and it didn't do anything for him.

100percentpurec0ck · 2023-07-11T13:05:16+00:00

I live in the US and I’m not willing to dish out hundreds of bucks just to simply talk to someone

FortniteAbobus · 2023-07-11T16:28:21+00:00

Therapy = stfu

Therapy is a meme.

No-Neighborhood-5851 · 2023-07-11T15:58:25+00:00

in theory and on average, therapy is supposed to help. Problem, a lot of people aren't aware of some of the drawbacks and such, like how hard it is to access or the costs. For example, I've been on waitlists for over a year, and this is with insurance. People act really shocked when I tell them this.

It also doesn't factor that not every therapist out there is perfect. Sometimes you need to shop around for a decent one if your current one isn't helping, or is even an asshole; people also get surprised when they find out that not every therapist is some wise guru who has every single answer.

I think people really need to acknowledge that therapy, despite being an overall positive, isn't automatically some magic bullet cure-all, for the reasons I listed above.

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-07-11T19:01:53+00:00

Because it's their answer for all of life's problems. I actually assume people are being paid to promote therapy or something I think. Therapy was just a cool time to have a conversation with an older guy who had a lot of life experience it never really changed my behavior. Also he gave me a benzo script which didn't end as disastrously as I thought it would.

Chemical-Night-3433 · 2023-07-11T12:24:25+00:00

Therapy can be good if your suffering from body dismorphia or any illness like that, which can cause inceldom. Also sometimes it’s nice to talk to someone irl about your issues rather then just through a screen. I hate to say it but places like this forum and other blackpill/incel forums aren’t the best when it comes to mental health issues. My first therapist kinda helped me work through some issue I had with women and I’m glad she did

jxjkskkk · 2023-07-11T20:02:44+00:00

Therapy is kinda bullshit. Unless you suffer from PTSD or some other emotional trauma or mental illness. Just going to therapy to go is pointless though.

I know because my doctor forces me to get therapy in conjunction with my ADHD medicine. She knows that’s why I’m there but she even asked me at the end of the first appointment, what do you want out of this exactly? And I said I don’t know.. maybe we can find things to dig in to as we talk more. But frankly it’s just a waste of money, I like my therapist she’s cool but I just don’t see the point. She tells me things I already know and that any self-aware person would know.

Idk, maybe it’s just my perspective. I just don’t see how it’s helpful unless you truly need it or are suffering from an insurmountable loneliness.

ROBYoutube · 2023-07-11T11:39:22+00:00

lol I suggest therapy when I see something far beyond the scope of even the most qualified redditor to help with.

Can't speak for everyone, but I promote it because I use it. And it works. It has taken years of consistent therapy, but eventually I started conquering real trauma. And it feels good. And it makes me better. And it's valuable.

Equivalent_Layer8265 · 2023-07-11T12:52:12+00:00

There's no difference You wouldn't know.

eeekkkgg · 2023-07-11T12:52:37+00:00

A big problem with therapy is that for many it's just not available, especially if they live outside the progressive western world. Private care is often too expensive, while private care is frequently lacking.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-07-11T14:22:03+00:00

Therapy can help with dating problems because mental health issues does make dating harder. But usually incels have more obstacles to overcome before they can date.

_demidevil_ · 2023-07-12T14:43:32+00:00

Your dating troubles are a lot deeper than you realise. They are intertwined with thought patterns, core beliefs about yourself, attachment style etc.

It’s not a case of simply getting advice shout dating specifically. You need to do the inner work to change/heal those thought patterns and beliefs before you even begin to think about dating strategy.

Even the best dating game and “looks maxing” won’t work if the person believes deep down they’re unlovable.

kemonovatnik · 2023-07-11T10:56:44+00:00

As incel, I really unironically think I need therapy. But real therapy, helping me with anxiety, OCD, and PTSD, so could easier for me to search for cute 18-20yo waifu in East/Southeas Asia as chronologically (I identify as transage) twice older white man. Not that feministic brainwash that I should lower my standards and go for "women my age" what bluepillers and normies really mean when say I need therapy.

Give me redpilled therapist

KayRay1994 · 2023-07-11T17:08:55+00:00

For one thing, even with therapy you still have to do 90% of the work yourself. You also have to be willing to be truly vulnerable, let go of your ego and understand the fact that the therapist is nothing more than a guide or coach. It is also important to accept that your sense of self and self perception might be wrong, and while the therapist may certainly not be right it is still worth bouncing off ideas and truly digesting the discussion.

Therapists, also, like any other profession - can be great or awful at their jobs, in other words, you might have a shitty therapist. There is also a level of having to be compatible with your therapist, ie. I think you have to at least feel safe and comfortable around them. So it takes a lot of searching and trial and error.

Group therapy is very likely more beneficial as well - something like DBT (dialectical behavioral therapy) is an excellent mode of giving you skills to actively practice in a group setting where its basically half discussion, half lecture. I found this to be particularly effective and frankly with the deep anxiety, catastrophizing and with the inability to tell the difference between reason and emotion (VERY common, actually) its actually very helpful

Title	Why do bluepillers push therapy so much?
Author	Lifecantrulysuck
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Date	July 11, 2023 10:31 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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